tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post115599844713029970..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: A Tale of Two Menkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-30385836142335756512007-09-10T02:24:00.000-04:002007-09-10T02:24:00.000-04:00Excellent website. Good work. Very useful. I will ...Excellent website. Good work. Very useful. I will bookmark!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24002901487260207692007-09-04T13:38:00.000-04:002007-09-04T13:38:00.000-04:00Very interesting site. Blog is very good. I am hap...Very interesting site. Blog is very good. I am happy that I think the same!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50179318738585804932007-08-18T06:47:00.000-04:002007-08-18T06:47:00.000-04:00Great article! Thanks.Great article! Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156603622398236162006-08-26T10:47:00.000-04:002006-08-26T10:47:00.000-04:00These guys were not innocent choir boys and that i...These guys were not innocent choir boys and that is a fact. There behavior was out of control. Are you people ignoring that?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156384936679758202006-08-23T22:02:00.000-04:002006-08-23T22:02:00.000-04:00President Brodhead's rush to be politically correc...President Brodhead's rush to be politically correct rather than waiting for events to unfold illustrates what a professor friend of mine says--education is too important to be left to educators! Duke has prided itself in being innovative--how about firing Brodhead and bringing in a corporate LEADER (Jack Welch??) as CEO supported by an academic all-star as COO? Maybe then we could also stop the relentless rise in the cost of sending a student to Duke without sacrificing the quality of the education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156250259355886322006-08-22T08:37:00.000-04:002006-08-22T08:37:00.000-04:00Well, Nifong maybe but I don't think it's fair to ...Well, Nifong maybe but I don't think it's fair to blame Duke president. after all, lacrosse boys had been acting like they were above anybodyelse. cmmon piss on neighbors yard? I know that doesn't mean they should be accused of something they didn't commit. But we should wait and see.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156091912696929102006-08-20T12:38:00.000-04:002006-08-20T12:38:00.000-04:00Is it time for bloggers to organize on this case? ...Is it time for bloggers to organize on this case? To expect Nifong or even the new judge to toss this out could be wishful thinking. Are there any attorneys out there (Judicial Watch) who would take up the case? The left has always used the law to its advantage. Could the left and right unite on this and come up with a strong legal case to challenge the status quo?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156091729045742602006-08-20T12:35:00.000-04:002006-08-20T12:35:00.000-04:00As I was reading all the post pertaining to the du...As I was reading all the post pertaining to the duke rape case.... I have this question.... Can you people imagine what the victim and her parents are going through also? It is not one sided here. Others are suffering too!!<BR/><BR/>This case will leave scars on many after it is over.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156090137967753882006-08-20T12:08:00.000-04:002006-08-20T12:08:00.000-04:00I certainly understand Mr. Wellington's disappoint...I certainly understand Mr. Wellington's disappointment in Brodhead's statements and actions, failing to support or rally behind the team. However, I feel it is grossly unfair to equate what Brodhead has done to what Nifong has done. <BR/><BR/>It is an unfortunate fact of life that large institutions, and their heads, regularly ignore or sacrifice individuals where the image of the institution is threatened. It is not Brodhead's fear of losing his job that motivated him, it was fear of having Duke's image besmirched. <BR/> <BR/>Institution heads never get out in front of a story, they always react. Brodhead reacted to the story, late coming to him because of poor communication from his administration staff, and studiously tried to steer a neutral course between the university forces pushing for more disciplinary action and those pointing to the positives of the team members' records. I doubt any university president would stick his neck out in favor of students accused of such a heinous crime. Condemn Brodhead for not transcending what university presidents usually do. Condemn him for not coming out for his students once the 1800 pages of prosecutor's evidence was released or even when the DNA results seemingly supported the players' story. Condemn him for not trumpeting the good record of the team. Condemn him for not publicly chastising the Group of 88's inflammatory ad. But don't lump him with Nifong.<BR/><BR/>Nifong clearly engaged in dishonest and unethical behavior for personal gain. That's a whole different ball of wax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156082125140563092006-08-20T09:55:00.000-04:002006-08-20T09:55:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156080724138884902006-08-20T09:32:00.000-04:002006-08-20T09:32:00.000-04:00This is one of the best pieces I read on the Duke ...This is one of the best pieces I read on the Duke Lacrosse case, and trust me I have done a lot of reading. Mr. Wellington summarizes the situation quite well and accurately. I agree with all of his analysis 100 percent. The question is does Nifong or Brodhead really care about honesty, integrity, truth, or justice? Based on their actions so far, I suspect not. So, waiting for them to take any corrective action is futile. Some other force has to come into play here, if the three innocent young men are to get their lives back. We, all of us, are responsible for seeing to it that, whatever it might be, such a force/action/project/initiative is created. This injustice cannot be and should not be tolerated.<BR/><BR/>A Duke FriendAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156041419382430472006-08-19T22:36:00.000-04:002006-08-19T22:36:00.000-04:00Out of this all this ugliness,some true heros have...Out of this all this ugliness,some true heros have emerged. First Dave Evans, with his remarkable speech professing his innocence and that of the other two indicted lacrosse players. And now Rob Wellington's letter. This is a young man who has already signed an affadavit about Seligmann, is prepared to be a witness at trial and who is returning to Duke.<BR/><BR/>Compare Evans and Wellington's actions to those of Brodhead and Nifong, men many years older and one would think wiser. Brodhead has shown himself to be a true coward. Brodhead was Dean at Yale when a student was murdered in 1999. After the mess he created then and doing his best to ruin Prof. James Vander Velte's career, one wonders how did he ever get hired at Duke?<BR/><BR/>Mike Nifong used the Duke Lacrosse Hoax case to win a primary at all costs and continues to stop at nothing under the aegis of the pursuit of justice.<BR/><BR/>The case stopped being about the accused victim long ago. Notice nobody ever mentions her anymore.<BR/><BR/>Thank you Mr. Wellington for a breath of fresh air amid all of this darkness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156037405515360592006-08-19T21:30:00.000-04:002006-08-19T21:30:00.000-04:00You and your son have your integrity, something wh...You and your son have your integrity, something which Brodhead & Nifong lost long ago.<BR/><BR/>We are going to win this fight and then were are going to get Brodhead & Nifong fired!Marco2006https://www.blogger.com/profile/01235104902243866449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156034497794405042006-08-19T20:41:00.000-04:002006-08-19T20:41:00.000-04:00I sit here with tears in my eyes. As the mother o...I sit here with tears in my eyes. As the mother of a 21 year old son in college, this travesty has shook me to the core. <BR/><BR/>I can only imagine what Mr. Wellington and all the Duke LAX player's parents are going through.<BR/><BR/>Thank you Mr. Wellington. Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156022316546292422006-08-19T17:18:00.000-04:002006-08-19T17:18:00.000-04:00Mr. Wellington has written a very good and pertine...Mr. Wellington has written a very good and pertinent essay. As a college professor, I see this kind of behavior in spades in academe. Notice that Brodhead was most fearful of offending the Group of 88 and all of the other PC constituencies.<BR/><BR/>To be honest, I suspect Brodhead would have preferred that the three athletes be guilty, as it would give much ammunition to the PC faculty and permit Brodhead to do the kind of moral strut that people like him often do. Instead, we are going to see him literally try to salvage some sort of condemnation of these athletes, even if they did not commit rape (which we know they did not).<BR/><BR/>As for Nifong, not only is he engaged in self-preservation, but the entire legal system in North Carolina will try to fall into line and try to let him and everyone else save face. We have seen this before in North Carolina. If there were any justice in that state, David Hoke would be behind bars serving time for attempted murder through his false and malicious prosecution of Alan Gell. Instead, he is the number two person administratively in the entire North Carolina judicial system. It boggles the mind, except that government employees look after each other. Truth has nothing to do with the court system in North Carolina, trust me.<BR/><BR/>Bill AndersonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156015222017817542006-08-19T15:20:00.000-04:002006-08-19T15:20:00.000-04:00Being a leader is hard work...it's much easier to ...Being a leader is hard work...it's much easier to take the weasel's way out, which is what both men did...neither man is a leader.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156014191660263182006-08-19T15:03:00.000-04:002006-08-19T15:03:00.000-04:00Excellent essay. In the scale of things, Nifong's ...Excellent essay. In the scale of things, Nifong's transgressions far outweigh those of Brodhead. If the new judge is honest and hard-working, as some said, it shouldn't take long to toss this out of court. Then watch Nifong and Brodhead squirm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156013638413381672006-08-19T14:53:00.000-04:002006-08-19T14:53:00.000-04:00Thank you for both of the above articles. I have ...Thank you for both of the above articles. I have often despaired over the past four months. The words "honor", "courage", and "honesty" have seemed like relics of a world I once knew, long gone now. Thank you, from this baby boomer for renewing my faith that those amorphous concepts do still exist. Thank you, in particular, Mr. Wellington, for sharing with all of us- and for sharing Rob with us!<BR/>Texas MomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156013312141743162006-08-19T14:48:00.000-04:002006-08-19T14:48:00.000-04:00To correct my previous typo:Durham Voters - please...To correct my previous typo:<BR/><BR/>Durham Voters - please support the Recall Nifong - Vote Cheek effort. The committee needs both financial support and volunteers. Visit www.recallnifong.com for details.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156013240137970702006-08-19T14:47:00.000-04:002006-08-19T14:47:00.000-04:00I wish I knew how to contact Mr. Wellington and th...I wish I knew how to contact Mr. Wellington and thank him for his so eloquently written words - that completely reflect my own (not so eloquent words). The "Duke Lacrosse situation" has become less about the accuser and the accused than it has become about the interim-Durham County District Attorney.<BR/><BR/>He is certainly guilty of violating the NC BAR ethics rules as they pertain to prosecutors (section 3.8) as well as section 3.6. <BR/><BR/>Additionally, I believe if someone were to be able to determine how the accuser went from not being able to identify anyone in 6 prior lineups (on 3/14 and 3/21) and provided physical descriptions so far off ANY of the DLAX players (short, chubby 260/270 pounds) ... to identifying "4" attackers with 90% & 100% certainty and as many as 14 other party attendees (including what they wore and where they were that night), I think we'd find that she was coached by someone - or directed to websites where she could research the team members. <BR/><BR/>Note that the ID process was directed by Mr. Nifong very likely AFTER he learned that the DNA evidence came back clearing the LAX. This is evident in his media statements -- up until 3/30 he indicated that DNA would solve the case. On 3/30 he began saying that the case would not fail w/o DNA -- not when the AV could ID her attackers (note that on that date she COULD NOT and HAD NOT ID'd her attackers). On 3/31 he ordered the new lineup - on 4/4 the AV's memory was amazingly improved. If someone could prove that she was somehow coached (or threatened) between 3/30 and 4/4 - that may be prosecutorial misconduct - much more serious (imo) than ethics violations.<BR/><BR/>Durham Voters - please support the Recall Nifong - Vote Cheek effort. The committee needs both financial and volunteers. Visit www.recallnifong.com for details.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156007561715657272006-08-19T13:12:00.000-04:002006-08-19T13:12:00.000-04:00Wow Great essay Thanks for sharingWow Great essay Thanks for sharingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1156002439104665452006-08-19T11:47:00.000-04:002006-08-19T11:47:00.000-04:00Thank you for bringing to light another true hero ...Thank you for bringing to light another true hero in this case!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com