tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post1202738704855277725..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Jesse Jackson's Moral Certaintykcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-38295773760236049512007-06-16T18:05:00.000-04:002007-06-16T18:05:00.000-04:00Does anyoe forget how this whole case came about?T...Does anyoe forget how this whole case came about?<BR/><BR/>The drunk stripper was found in a convenience store parking lot slumped over in a car and being disorderly. The lie about the rape did not come up because she went to the police, it came up because she was making an excuse for her behavior when someone called the police on her. She never said word one about rape until police went after her for her own conduct. It's called misdirection, it's called looking for sympathy, and it was obvious from day 1. Suckers. Oh yeah, Jesse Jackson is an opportunist who does what he does because he is incapable of getting work doing anything else. He's not qualified to do anything but run his mouth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18960870541679378422007-06-16T01:09:00.000-04:002007-06-16T01:09:00.000-04:00Nifong should pay all the costs of defense that hi...Nifong should pay all the costs of defense that his false charges led to and should serve the prison time that these boys would have served if convicted. Losing his law license is not enough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49236735450342658882007-06-12T20:31:00.000-04:002007-06-12T20:31:00.000-04:00What does it mean that it is politically highly ri...What does it mean that it is politically highly risky to engage in exchanging money for personal gratification?<BR/><BR/>I think it means don't associate with those who are in a lower class than you. They have less to lose, less distance to fall, and so you are more exposed.Dantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07393170116669470751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-17400233120236298152007-06-12T14:51:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:51:00.000-04:00Looks like this thread has a faculty member from t...Looks like this thread has a faculty member from the angry studies department attempting to defend the indefensible and doing so with slogans, propaganda, talking points, and other assorted tripe. The fact that s/he even believes the Revs J and S are leaders says volumes about her value system.Roger J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/12639676792043324100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28373774770483671942007-06-12T08:14:00.000-04:002007-06-12T08:14:00.000-04:00The thing is, you're defendinga white man who was ...The thing is, you're defending<BR/>a white man who was using<BR/>a black prostitute to thwart<BR/>an election. Do you know how<BR/>silly this looks?<BR/><BR/>And do you think the DPD is racially<BR/>innocent, with their record? <BR/>Perhaps you haven't been keeping<BR/>up: the DPD/Durham had to settle<BR/>with two groups of aggrieved parties. <BR/>Both parties were black,<BR/>both were either abused or were<BR/>falsely accused. Both parties<BR/>got settlements - deservedly so.<BR/>Forget what Addison says: he's<BR/>a dolt. (That is, if you've been<BR/>keeping up.)<BR/><BR/><BR/>You haven't got a clue...machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-75955420931003713992007-06-12T08:06:00.000-04:002007-06-12T08:06:00.000-04:0010:58I know something about WalterAshby Plecker. ...10:58<BR/>I know something about Walter<BR/>Ashby Plecker. Do you? <BR/>I could have made your case for <BR/>you (certainly better than you<BR/>have.)<BR/><BR/>You forgot to address the issue<BR/>of Jackson spitting in the food<BR/>of white people, and of Jackson<BR/>(and Clinton, of course) having<BR/>their way with their subordinates. <BR/>Guess that doesn't fit in with<BR/>your perception of things, though - does it?machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34429356820752942342007-06-11T22:58:00.000-04:002007-06-11T22:58:00.000-04:00mac, you are full of it as usual. i do not have to...mac, <BR/>you are full of it as usual. i do not have to kiss your butt as this is my ancestors land also as i am also part native american, like many american blacks( i am part black, white and native american). the native americans are definitely a part of the black american gene pool (whites are a portion of our gene pool as well); because of the so called slave codes, a half black half native american was still a slave because of the one drop rule( ie one drop of black blood made you black so you could be sold as a slave). the native americans often helped blacks escape in slavery and in fact the seminole wars in fla were fought about native americans protecting escaped blacks. some native americans, notably the cherokees, also adopted white ways and enslaved some blacks for their farms. in areas where this happened, there are a large proportion of the blacks having native american descent( from the same coerced sex circumstances as in the white farms/plantations). enslaved blacks did not join in the wholesale slaughter of the native americans in the southern states as they were not allowed to be armed. it was against the law to give a gun to an Indian or a black man. some blacks were part of army units involved in conflicts in the west but that was after emancipation. by and large, the planners and executors of the policy to exterminate native americans were white. like your fanciful history of the KKK, which was patently absurd, your statement about blacks and whites both destroying the indians is similarly flawed to anyone understanding the actual history of the US. please get a history book and learn something. i suggest PATHS TOWARD FREEDOM, the classic text about southern blacks and it has a chapter in it with the links between blacks and indians. you would especially like this book as it was written by the world famous Duke history expert , John Hope Franklin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-44746065754963646962007-06-11T10:02:00.000-04:002007-06-11T10:02:00.000-04:007:43pmYou're a crazy zealot who is filled with an ...7:43pm<BR/>You're a crazy zealot who is filled with an extraordinary amount of denial, hate, and racism. You are in such denial that you continually downplay the criminal and unethical activities of Jackson, Sharpton, and other "leaders" you try to elevate as being decent when they are not.<BR/><BR/>If only the media, especially local outlets, would cover and expose people like you instead of downplaying the rampant racism you bring to everything you touch, then blacks wouldn't have a leg to stand on with the constant blame game.<BR/><BR/>They'd have to stand on their own for once. Though more and more I see that happening and the behavior of racists and scoundrels like you who relish damaging innocent people have helped that attitude change along.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps we all should be grateful for your ill-conceived and pathetic diatribes. They reveal how black people really think and how low they are willing to stoop.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28046852921902919882007-06-10T21:20:00.000-04:002007-06-10T21:20:00.000-04:00Mandelbrot's Chaos,You're right, of course, butyou...Mandelbrot's Chaos,<BR/><BR/>You're right, of course, but<BR/>you forgot misogynist: that's what<BR/>you call someone who sleeps with<BR/>the help. Like Jesse did.<BR/><BR/>"Heps" to be up in the house<BR/>while others are in the fields,<BR/>digging in the dirt.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87788413237038090112007-06-10T20:58:00.000-04:002007-06-10T20:58:00.000-04:00The fact of the matter, my dear, delusional 7:43, ...The fact of the matter, my dear, delusional 7:43, is that Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton are racists of the worst sort, and are the African-American equivalent of David Duke and Matt Hale. The argument against reparations is a valid one. In essence, you want to get some benefits from the suffering of your distant ancestors. What about the Irish who were discriminated against? What about the indentured servants, the medieval serfs, and the other oppressed peoples? And I won't even get into the question of who would pay for it. Your counterpoints have merely exposed your own racism and ignorance, and you are beneath even my contempt.Mandelbrot's Chaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16707481552099334302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24915629017053659462007-06-10T20:15:00.000-04:002007-06-10T20:15:00.000-04:007:43Since I have a little Native American blood in...7:43<BR/>Since I have a little Native American <BR/>blood in me, you can kiss my butt: <BR/>get off of my ancestors' land!<BR/>(that's a half-joke, just as<BR/>I'm a fractional Native American.)<BR/>But if you want to see people<BR/>who were murdered, driven off their<BR/>land? By blacks as well as whites?<BR/><BR/>What the KKK did to blacks is no<BR/>comparison to what blacks and <BR/>whites did to the folks who owned<BR/>these lands. President Jackson<BR/>is a pre-Hitler to some.<BR/><BR/>Better look in the mirror, chum<BR/>(or chumette.) You're looking<BR/>for specks in other people's<BR/>eyes, and you have a big log<BR/>stuck in yours. Like: maybe <BR/>I'm one of those "secret racists?"<BR/><BR/>Let's see: how about stopping<BR/>with the name-calling? I never said<BR/>the KKK wasn't a racist bunch,<BR/>but Jesse Jackass is racist to<BR/>the core: he spit in the food of<BR/>white people when he was a waiter.<BR/>He admitted it!<BR/>And I don't think he's changed. <BR/><BR/>Maybe you think snot is a spice?machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-26956339669358181192007-06-10T19:43:00.000-04:002007-06-10T19:43:00.000-04:00mac,you are full of it. the kkk was not a civic o...mac,<BR/>you are full of it. the kkk was not a civic organization that campaigned and poor whites took up collection to pay for promised civil improvements. you need to buy a history book. the kkk was composed of various members of the white community( although now it is reduced to the poor white group who is less educated) and was a covert terroristic organization that used methods like lynching and arson and rape to try to control the newly freed black population and maintain white supremacy and the codes of Jim crow segregation. they never promised whites anything other than to keep blacks in their "proper place", ie, subjugated. the kkk largely succeeded in their goals in the south until the advent of the mass civil rights movement among southern blacks. The klan activity escalated as blacks challenged white supremacy and segregation and the increasingly violent Klan methods( ie, the mass bombings in Birmingham, etc) caused too much disruption in the south and the fbi then took steps to break up the klan. <BR/><BR/>As for Sharpton, i mentioned the Brawley situation but as i said, his other causes have been to expose racism and you guys do not like that because you are trying to foster the myth that whites are no longer racist. you still are to a certain extent, you are just less overt.<BR/><BR/>as to Jackson, nice try in trying to compare the Hymietown remark to the n word but it will not work as the word Hymie is actually an affectionate term in NY for jewish males; Jackson did not use the more odious kike and he said that the jews run NY. as to the holocaust, many blacks feel that too much emphasis is placed on this event when the longer black holocaust of the middle passage slave trade with millions of more dead and that lasted centuries is ignored and blacks are told repeatedly to forget slavery and the middle passage while it is ok for jews to dwell on the holocaust. what is the difference? to many blacks, it is because jews are classed as whites and therefore are more entitled to be upset about the holocaust whereas black people are not allowed to discuss slavery and its after effects any more because, well, white people are tired of hearing about it and want to pretend that slavery had no lasting effects whatsoever. any economist or sociologist will tell you that premise, that slavery had no lasting effects is bs as black americans were deprived of inherited wealth they generated for centuries and then were freed with nothing and were still in an oppressive economic system like Jim crow where they could not take certain jobs on general principle. after the civil rights movement, things improved dramatically but black americans still suffer from the economic effect of less inherited wealth that goes back generations. that is the case for reparations for slavery but i will stop here as it is off topic. and please do not dredge up the old argument that no one alive owned slaves , that you are from the north and did not own slaves and that you are from immigrants and your family did not own slaves. if you are a white and from the North but have worked for any of the major corporations that were founded and started during the slave trade(many of the old New England companies started this way), or are a descendent of southern whites, or your family was employed by a company with Jim Crow hiring practices and you then inherited wealth from your forbears who benefitted from those times of inequity, you, too have benefitted from the system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7220753628613565552007-06-10T13:54:00.000-04:002007-06-10T13:54:00.000-04:00Mac and Mandlebrot--Thanks for your well-written, ...Mac and Mandlebrot--<BR/>Thanks for your well-written, factual, and informative comments.<BR/>I feel sorry for 1:12, 2:24, 2:33.<BR/>From the quality of their writing, this person appears to be a Southern black racist. Probably from Durham.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-74827261513596142082007-06-10T08:42:00.000-04:002007-06-10T08:42:00.000-04:00Jesse Jackson had a child out of wedlock? LMAO.Jesse Jackson had a child out of wedlock? LMAO.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-86141285807125468442007-06-10T07:25:00.000-04:002007-06-10T07:25:00.000-04:002:33, the Paris Hilton case didn't cause the outcr...2:33, the Paris Hilton case didn't cause the outcry because she was treated differently as a result of her race. It caused the outcry because she was treated differently because of her <B>celebrity and fortune</B>. Al Sharpton IS a racist. Apparently, you've heard of the Tawana Brawley incident. What about the Crown Heights riot? What about Freddie's Fashion Mart and the deaths his comments caused? What about his actions as a spokesman for LoanMax, a company that disproportionately damaged the African American community? He's a known racist and homophobe, yet you defend this idiot?<BR/><BR/>Have you never heard of Jesse Jackson's "Hymietown" remark in 1984? Have you never heard about him saying that he was "sick and tired of hearing about the Holocaust"? Or how about the Budweiser boycott which was ended when Anheuser-Busch sold a distributorship to his sons when his sons had absolutely no experience in that industry? Jackson too is absolutely a racist and a shakedown artist, and a pitiful excuse for a human being.<BR/><BR/>We've never said that one person used racial slurs. Two people did. One of them just happened to be a stripper.Mandelbrot's Chaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16707481552099334302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-16187574551408767362007-06-10T07:20:00.000-04:002007-06-10T07:20:00.000-04:001:12, 2:24 and now 2:23!Still the same decrepit lo...1:12, 2:24 and now 2:23!<BR/>Still the same decrepit logic,<BR/>apologizing for the malignant<BR/>narcissist, Jesse Jackson.<BR/>The author sounds like "Bagdad <BR/>Bob," or one of the mouthpieces <BR/>of North Korea's little despot.<BR/><BR/>No, 2:23: Jesse Jackson is VERY<BR/>MUCH like the KKK, which used to<BR/>travel from town to town, telling<BR/>poor white people how it was going<BR/>to do something for them. <BR/>The poor whites took up collections,<BR/>the KKK would hit the road, and <BR/>"something" was never done for them. <BR/>Nothing was done for them.<BR/><BR/>Just like Jaxson (Lubiano inspired<BR/>mispelling) who collects money<BR/>but does nothing other than shine<BR/>a big spotlight on himself - and<BR/>tell people what he's gonna do<BR/>for them. And, like the KKK,<BR/>nothing ever happens - for them.<BR/><BR/>All I can say is: parents, if<BR/>Jesse's around, leave your daughter at home.<BR/><BR/>All I can say to 1:12, 2:24 and<BR/>2:23 is: breathe into a paper bag;<BR/>hyperventilation can be cured in<BR/>such a fashion.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-70426630420848655752007-06-10T02:33:00.000-04:002007-06-10T02:33:00.000-04:00i find it very amusing how many people on this blo...i find it very amusing how many people on this blog think Jesse Jackson and Al sharpton are racists and synamous to the KKK. they are not. the only thing these men are guilty of is still pointing out white racism and I guess you all do not like that so you vilify them. if a person speaks out on white racism among some members of this society and in our institutions that does not automatically make them anti white or a racist themselves so this tactic you are using does not really work. <BR/><BR/>the so called shakedowns you accuse Jesse Jackson of were attempts to get black people entry level jobs in the mid 1970's when many companies were refusing to do so. he was not asking for unqualified people to be hired, just for black applicants with qualifications be considered. Jesse has always stood up and criticised racism ever since the Civil rights movement. Al Sharpton had a dubious episode with the Brawley case but moved on to being a big activist in NY and then onto the national stage. He is not irrelevant and his coming forward got rid of the odious Imus and his speaking out on Paris Hilton got a lot of attention to the fact that minorities got to jail routinely and are not let out because of medical issues. Sharpton is a leading voice againist police brutatlity and unequal treatment on the national stage right now. the whole Paris Hilton episode shows the double standard these activists and the minority community have complained about for years. the duke lax episode was another example of bought justice, IMO. and keep on telling yourselves that only one person said racial slurs, etc, if it makes you feel better as i know Kim is on 60 minutes saying it echoed and that means more than one person said it. good luck also trying to pretend the cotton shirt comment was ok and a good joke if it makes you feel better too. that does not change the fact that many people in the black community feel it was racist and an abusive episode and they are not going to apologise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-65858260494898845112007-06-10T01:02:00.000-04:002007-06-10T01:02:00.000-04:00All of you who used the word "community", as in Af...All of you who used the word "community", as in African-American community, are badly misusing the word. Community means something entirely different from "People of the same pigment" (or same ethnic origin or religious belief or sexual orientation). This misuse enhances our descent into tribalism.<BR/>TomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15097258104642667032007-06-09T22:41:00.000-04:002007-06-09T22:41:00.000-04:00Is arguing that "having a party with strippers put...Is arguing that "having a party with strippers put the boys at risk for a false accusation of rape" sort of like saying "wearing revealing clothes puts women at risk for rape?" <BR/><BR/>We'd, rightly, never hear the latter out of JJ's mouth, as he'd immediately be charged with "blaming the victim." Well guess what he's doing here. Sigh.Steven Horwitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00470758334242360804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4639900622370812052007-06-09T20:06:00.000-04:002007-06-09T20:06:00.000-04:00Jesse Jackson is a cipher -- and by all accounts, ...Jesse Jackson is a cipher -- and by all accounts, a bad guy -- who has no credibility within the black community. <BR/><BR/>The only reason he's still visible is because the MSM beleive that he has credibility in the black community -- that he "speaks for them". Ironic that KC's hyperventilating makes this a self-fulfilling prophecy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-27508803980990719192007-06-09T19:59:00.000-04:002007-06-09T19:59:00.000-04:00And now civil rights activist Rev. James Bevel is ...And now civil rights activist Rev. James Bevel is in trouble. Will there be any protests? They have to assume his accuser (13 to 17 years old during the alleged sexual encounters) didn't lie, right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34641674260715047592007-06-09T19:56:00.000-04:002007-06-09T19:56:00.000-04:00That Jackson depicts the party as "orgasmic" revea...That Jackson depicts the party as "orgasmic" reveals that he has never looked closely at the photographs of the party. I've rarely seen such a bored and unenthusiastic congregation of college students outside a lecture hall. Those group photos are portraits of the antithesis of orgasmic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47512613051371684952007-06-09T17:13:00.000-04:002007-06-09T17:13:00.000-04:00If the panal doesn't come down on the side of law ...If the panal doesn't come down on the side of law being applied fairly and equally there will be no law. It is almost that way now. Look at Durham's recent lawlessness in and around the community regardless of race. What on earth are these fools talking about. The law is all we have in a civil society to protect us all. The behavior of the DPD is not what it should be all the BS to the contrary. What happened to these three and the lacrosse team and its coach is wrong no matter how much BS commentary is rationalize about the situation, and it is an indication of the so called intellectual community they don't see it. Again, it is so sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52728354401300951972007-06-09T16:39:00.000-04:002007-06-09T16:39:00.000-04:00Whenever I hear a comment along the lines of, "By ...Whenever I hear a comment along the lines of, "By hiring strippers they put themselves at risk" I want to ask just how many times in the past has it happened that hiring strippers has been followed by a false claim of rape?<BR/> I may be mistaken, but I bet that it is an extremely rare outcome. If so, then the Rev. Johnson is talking nonsense.<BR/> There are indeed hazards in letting folks from the stripper subculture anywhere near you; the LAX guys could be faulted on those grounds. But so what, this saga has never been about normal reality; it has had more in common with a bad dream.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83894130519518285852007-06-09T16:18:00.000-04:002007-06-09T16:18:00.000-04:00Jesse Jackson decrying anyone or anything as uneth...Jesse Jackson decrying anyone or anything as unethical is just ridiculous...he's no better than a common thief...but hey, he's got a perfect record in *this* case...every single one of *his* facts were dead wrong! What a batting average!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com