tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post1254464477650814745..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: What, Exactly, Did the Police Investigate?kcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger26125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79905661327546763932011-07-01T13:57:00.344-04:002011-07-01T13:57:00.344-04:00I sent the e-mail via proxy server to New Zealand ...I sent the e-mail via proxy server to New Zealand from my US government computer in Fairfax, VA. I had a hunch that this Nifong character was dirty so I set out to prove it. My spoofed e-mail was the bait and he bit hook, line, and sinker. This was the straw that broke the camel's back thank me very much. I took an oath to uphold, obey, and enforcement the Constitution. He did as well, but fell down on the job and I caught him in the act. Next time I'll make sure not to forget to spoof the date stamp.<br /><br />JJ The FedJasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04248150620368015158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-25139709810357953282007-08-19T01:36:00.000-04:002007-08-19T01:36:00.000-04:00Thanks for interesting article.Thanks for interesting article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46469643456878876852006-10-24T13:26:00.000-04:002006-10-24T13:26:00.000-04:00Dude, your 7:38 PM post contains some very strange...Dude, your 7:38 PM post contains some very strange statements. You say that while you are not sure exactly what laws were broken, you nevertheless think there have been several civil rights violations in connection with the LAX case, that the Duke Administration is fully culpable for those violations, and that the Duke Administration will probably bear the brunt of the financial settlements that will arise from this mess. Would you please tell us exactly what the heck you are talking about?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-61854051297954356502006-10-24T00:29:00.000-04:002006-10-24T00:29:00.000-04:00This was a Hoax Created by Nifong. It was an attem...This was a Hoax Created by Nifong. It was an attempt to frame three inncoent players.<br /><br />It is that simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24476618197557909362006-10-23T22:22:00.000-04:002006-10-23T22:22:00.000-04:00Yes, there is a hearing this Friday at 9:00am.Yes, there is a hearing this Friday at 9:00am.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-44983263631560018392006-10-23T21:46:00.000-04:002006-10-23T21:46:00.000-04:00Did someone say there is a pretrial hearing or mot...Did someone say there is a pretrial hearing or motion this week? When is it and what are the particulars. Thanks for any info. This is a great site and the analysis is very thought provoking.<br />I don't know why someone would constantly badger the professor with trivial points that are clearly spelled out when they are posted.The Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07417776000068927222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-13177553893955644612006-10-23T21:18:00.000-04:002006-10-23T21:18:00.000-04:00And look. Who but professor Joyner was commenting ...And look. Who but professor Joyner was commenting on a fake e-mail as if it was actually send by Finnerty?<br />"NCCU law professor Irving Joyner said the e-mail could be “useful” for District Attorney Mike Nifong. “A valid interpretation would be that [Finnerty] is cocky and arrogant,” Joyner said. “[The e-mail] suggests that with [Finnerty’s] race and status, no one would find him guilty.” <br />That's from campus echo newspaper, the same article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57442752336992324642006-10-23T21:16:00.000-04:002006-10-23T21:16:00.000-04:00Mr. 8:40 Pm. I am amazed you have the gull to tell...Mr. 8:40 Pm. I am amazed you have the gull to tell Professor Johnson he does not have the facts, while it's you who are cluless about the facts.<br />"One e-mail, which uses the e-mail address collin.finnerty@duke.edu and is signed Collin Finnerty, one of the indicted lacrosse players, was particularly problematic."<br />That's from the Campus Echo newspaper.<br />The link is no longer valid, but the article is cashed by google.<br />So, e-mail in fact appeared as originating from collin. finnerty@duke.edu,just as KC Johnson said.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18377316636731543702006-10-23T21:01:00.000-04:002006-10-23T21:01:00.000-04:00To 8:40
There were two different fake emails a...To 8:40<br /> There were two different fake emails attributed to the LAX guys. One from N Zealand and one from Duke. The one from N. Zealand was an obvious near-parody of the image of the team the media was presenting.<br /> The Duke sourced fake was much more sinister in its implications because it reeked of intent to pressure the kids to "confess". Not to mention that it was defamatory.<br /> Those are the straight facts, well known to anyone who was really interested in this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-71845454065286021952006-10-23T20:40:00.000-04:002006-10-23T20:40:00.000-04:00Johnson, get your facts straight. Finnerty's alleg...Johnson, get your facts straight. Finnerty's alleged e-mail was not sent from his Duke account. It originated from New Zealand. These are the kind of ticky tack mistakes about which you would write paragraphs (and insinuate the worst), but when you make the same type of mistake, everyone ignores or excuses it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6033969367625863562006-10-23T19:38:00.000-04:002006-10-23T19:38:00.000-04:00I am not sure exactly what Federal law was broken ...I am not sure exactly what Federal law was broken but there seems to be several Civil Rights violations. it also appears that Duke Admin is fully culpable and will probably bear the brunt of the financial settlements that will arise from this whole mess. <br />Did you say the police entered the dorm without consent, emergency or a warrant? There's one. they questioned persons in a secure environment where any student could be coerced to provide information. That's 2. Fake emails sent to witnesses to make them talk. That is not illegal, in and of itself, but using the private party(Duke U.) to do their dirty work is clearly a violation of the students rights since they can't disobey the school. that's number 3. <br />The prosecutorial misconduct is overwhelming here. The Grand jury lapse of providing exculpable information is a big point. So is not allowing the defendants the right to legal counsel despite there full cooperation(along with the others not charged). <br />The prosecutorial misconsuct applies to anything the police do. the pros. is responsible for Police Actions. in this case it looks as if Police were acting on Nilfong's orders. This is one example of a corrupt police making the facts fit the allegation. The police in this case aren't very smart, either.The Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07417776000068927222noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58905874256001279942006-10-23T16:09:00.000-04:002006-10-23T16:09:00.000-04:00Yeah, it was classy all right. NCCU's newspaper pr...Yeah, it was classy all right. NCCU's newspaper printed the email, revealed that it was likely a fake (from NZ) then trashed Collin (and Duke by association) for what it said. You just can't win with people like this!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52778568102581699142006-10-23T15:55:00.000-04:002006-10-23T15:55:00.000-04:00Cool NCCU....way to keep things stirred up at the ...Cool NCCU....way to keep things stirred up at the time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53823504240401403482006-10-23T15:32:00.000-04:002006-10-23T15:32:00.000-04:00Above - it said some ridiculous stuff about how he...Above - it said some ridiculous stuff about how he can do anything he wants because he's rich and no one can touch him blah, blah, blah. The NCCU campus newspaper traced it to an IP address in New Zealand and realized it was fake. They still printed it though. <br />*rolls eyes*Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58440691741066749202006-10-23T14:33:00.000-04:002006-10-23T14:33:00.000-04:00I've been following this case pretty closely (or s...I've been following this case pretty closely (or so I thought). What e-mail from Collin? I remember the fake one sent by the police to the lax players saying "I'm going to tell them everything," which couldn't have been from the player because he was in class at the time. What did Collin's e-mail say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-5265220942814816652006-10-23T13:22:00.000-04:002006-10-23T13:22:00.000-04:00What really blows my mind is that it is documented...What really blows my mind is that it is documented that Reade Seligmann went to a burger joint for late night food after the party. Now if you investigate cases everyday, which I don't, it would seem that isn't typical behavior for someone who just committed a rape. Doesn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-70951546030501813472006-10-23T11:06:00.000-04:002006-10-23T11:06:00.000-04:00I seem to recall reading a while back that the fak...I seem to recall reading a while back that the fake e-mail from Collinn was traced back to an IP address in New Zealand, of all places.<br /><br />KC, what are the details about your appearance in Durham this coming weekend, and how and when will you communicate to the rest of us the details of that event? Do you plan to attend the latest hearing in the case, which is scheduled for this coming Friday, October 27th?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-77791817053519668922006-10-23T10:03:00.000-04:002006-10-23T10:03:00.000-04:00The Department of Justice and FBI must get involve...The Department of Justice and FBI must get involved. There have been cases where the have overridden the state jurisdication because the DA's prosecutorial misconduct was so egregious. I believe one such case was with DA Jim Garrison in Louisiana. I am not an attorney but I have done alot of research on how the Federal Governement can step in. KC exactly what Federal law has Nifong and the DPD broken. I thought the tampering and destroyin of evidence and the unconstitutional line up was enough along with all his other lies and corrupt behavior. <br />From the U.S. Dept. of Justice, Unithed States Attorneys' Manual, Title 9, ch11,paragrah 9-11.233,88 (1988) "When a prosecutor conducting a grand jury inquiry is personally aware of substantial evidence which directly negates the guilt of a subject of the investigation, the prosecutor must present or otherwise disclose such evidence to the grand jury before seeking indictment agaisnt such a person." A Federal investigation must be done to stop the reign of terror by Nifong. Any attorneys who know Federal law please give your input.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-38950607857590659102006-10-23T08:29:00.000-04:002006-10-23T08:29:00.000-04:00I think the North Carolina State Bar bears a lot o...I think the North Carolina State Bar bears a lot of responsibility for Nifong's (and probably many other NC prosecutors as well) willingness to flout the ethics rules. After all, the NC Bar has repeatedly demonstrated that it will not impose any serious discipline against lawyers who violate the rules. In the notorious Gell case, two prosecutors withheld exculpatory information that would have proved the defendant did not commit the murder with which he was charged. The defendant was convicted and sent to death row, yet the prosecutors whose malfeasance sent him there received only a slap on the wrist from the NC Bar -- and one of those prosecutors is now a judge! Prosecutors like Nifong received the message from the NC Bar -- that they're free to do whatever they want, regardless of the rules, and they need not fear any sanctions from the Bar. The people of NC need to speak up and demand accountability from the NC Bar. Change won't happen until the people of NC make it happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-42120977690549056992006-10-23T07:55:00.000-04:002006-10-23T07:55:00.000-04:00perhaps the H/S could also address the NC BAR ethi...perhaps the H/S could also address the NC BAR ethics rules (specifically 3.8) that Nifong trampled...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47655471667704015822006-10-23T07:38:00.000-04:002006-10-23T07:38:00.000-04:00I had completely forgotten about the email pretend...I had completely forgotten about the email pretending to be Collin<br />sent to NCCU. Thanks for the great article - you continue to produce some of the best analysis of this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12548774098053797002006-10-23T06:52:00.000-04:002006-10-23T06:52:00.000-04:00Not only the 3 accomplices, but Kim Roberts as wel...Not only the 3 accomplices, but Kim Roberts as well since the accuser in one statement said that "Nikki" helped them rape her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-37644863371272543562006-10-23T04:57:00.000-04:002006-10-23T04:57:00.000-04:00Your post also shows that even the potbangers know...Your post also shows that even the potbangers know that the accusation is a hoax. If they really believed Precious, they would be screaming for Nifong to apprehend the 3 accomplices.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-9871028918295341192006-10-23T03:04:00.000-04:002006-10-23T03:04:00.000-04:00Either email is easily traced to its point of orig...Either email is easily traced to its point of origination. Addresses are available from IP addresses. So, whoever had the will and power to do it can. Obviously, Duke doesn't care to exercise either.<br /><br />So, just who is going to be the one to DO something about the myriad of procedural violations that have been meticulously documented? No one seems to care. <br /><br />That this is occurring, as well as all of the implications of this rape hoax (a wide variety of major issues, not the least of which is the blatant reverse racism that is evident in black leadership and organizations, newspapers, and the DA office and PD), is truly frightening. <br /><br />But, nothing is being done about any of it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-91181873464500773872006-10-23T02:32:00.000-04:002006-10-23T02:32:00.000-04:00Excellent point.
And then there is also the myste...Excellent point.<br /><br />And then there is also the mysterious fake email sent from Collin Finnerty's duke.edu account that was posted on a messageboard at NCCU.<br /><br />Neither of these fake emails have received much attention.kcjohnson9https://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.com