tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post1977478032725037419..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Ashley's Apologiakcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger36125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-88653480388370306852007-04-17T21:55:00.000-04:002007-04-17T21:55:00.000-04:009:40pmGood letter. Send CC's to publisher Geoff Mo...9:40pm<BR/>Good letter. Send CC's to publisher Geoff Moser(gmoser@heraldsun.com); editorial staff--Ron Landfried(rlandfried@heraldsun.com); Greg Childress(gchildress@heraldsun.com) also.<BR/>The staff needs to know how the public feels about what they've done. Especially in light of what happened yesterday.<BR/>Someone needs to force this paper out so that we in Durham can have a useful and accurate news source again.<BR/>I ask that everyone e-mail the paper and make your voices known.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12250461850662878522007-04-17T21:47:00.000-04:002007-04-17T21:47:00.000-04:00I hope that crazy m-effer Ashley is run out of tow...I hope that crazy m-effer Ashley is run out of town. The H-S will be bankrupt if that lying toad is allowed to stay.<BR/>Run that imbecile out now!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-36185913566672702572007-04-17T21:40:00.000-04:002007-04-17T21:40:00.000-04:00My email to Bob Ashley at the Herald:Your own 'rev...My email to Bob Ashley at the Herald:<BR/><BR/><BR/>Your own 'review' of your reporting of the Duke case<BR/>finds that you were "fair and thorough"?<BR/><BR/>Are you truly that intellectually shallow that you saw<BR/>fit to print that statement? Let me remind you if a<BR/>politician, a District Attorney or a suspected<BR/>fraudster made the same proud announcement in public<BR/>of their own self review concerning their own<BR/>controversial acts they would rightfully be ridiculed.<BR/><BR/>I suggest that you publish the review of your paper's<BR/>work done by Durham-in-Wonderland. Now that would<BR/>expose your readership to some "fair" reporting....<BR/><BR/>Failure to do so is a measure of your true<BR/>credibility. You, sir, are directly culpable in this<BR/>travesty of justice. Very reasonable people<BR/>objectively believe that you and your paper are<BR/>irreparably biased. It is astonishing that you<BR/>blithely exonerate yourself without any single<BR/>admittance of failure or insight and with no objective<BR/>outsider.<BR/><BR/>Your arrogance is amazing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-54990629991767991532007-04-17T15:52:00.000-04:002007-04-17T15:52:00.000-04:00Ashley knows who his constituents are. If he ran a...Ashley knows who his constituents are. If he ran a fair and balanced presentation of the Duke case, he would lose what few subscribers he has left.<BR/><BR/>Trinity60Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-45552881098432031472007-04-17T13:26:00.000-04:002007-04-17T13:26:00.000-04:00ParkerDebrah<A HREF="http://www.jewishworldreview.com/kathleen/parker.php3" REL="nofollow">Parker</A><BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-38190651060323736552007-04-17T11:57:00.000-04:002007-04-17T11:57:00.000-04:00Idiots like Ashley, the Gang of 88 et al operate u...Idiots like Ashley, the Gang of 88 et al operate using the Dictionary of Liberal-speak. It contains a very flexible set of definitions, enabling convenient lies to be true on the strength of mere assertion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7042562337442065652007-04-17T10:20:00.000-04:002007-04-17T10:20:00.000-04:00Is there any kind of correction or notice in today...Is there any kind of correction or notice in today's Durham Herald about yesteday's false statement?<BR/><BR/>Is the paper just ignoring it? Pretending it never happened?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29263742817882902132007-04-17T09:59:00.000-04:002007-04-17T09:59:00.000-04:00I was curious about when Broadhead "flipped". The...I was curious about when Broadhead "flipped". The timeline done by Kethra at Liestoppers, and a couple of news articles make it appear to have been between March 30 and April 5. What Broadhead says on March 30 at an NCCU forum and what he does April 5 reflect quite a change. <BR/><BR/>Ashley, in an interview, refers to the "slow response" of Broadhead and notes that it improved after the email. Ashley also seems to indicate that he was involved in the exposure of the email. <BR/>Did Ashley meet with Broadhead? If so, was it an interview, or something else? <BR/>How close were Ashley and Nifong and how much was Ashley was using his paper to pressure Duke and milk the case? All for the betterment of Durham, of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-85396782209865433132007-04-17T08:59:00.000-04:002007-04-17T08:59:00.000-04:00Thomas Sowell discusses "gutless lemmings" at:http...Thomas Sowell discusses "gutless lemmings" at:<BR/><BR/>http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWM3MmZiOWQxODM3NzIxNDZmN2ZiYjE4NTkxMDdhNmM=Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33836841778293338432007-04-17T08:32:00.000-04:002007-04-17T08:32:00.000-04:00OT for this post, but I know how modest KC is. Th...OT for this post, but I know how modest KC is. The article on KC yesterday in the National Post was *a full page*!!<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=41cf8ef1-d41a-45e9-83e4-aae85d0fd52c&k=52797" REL="nofollow">National Post</A><BR/><BR/>KC, do you want a hard copy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-42655840011020776882007-04-17T08:21:00.000-04:002007-04-17T08:21:00.000-04:00I believe that Ashley and the H-S were looking for...I believe that Ashley and the H-S were looking for a sensational local story to sell papers. Bad things about a local minority prostitute do not sell papers, but they judged that a gang rape story by upper-class white out-of-towners would.<BR/><BR/>I suspect that they have lately been praying for a different sensational college story that would divert national attention on to something else. So very sadly, any such prayers they might have had were answered yesterday at Blacksburg, Virginia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-26876344601366070052007-04-17T08:07:00.000-04:002007-04-17T08:07:00.000-04:00The good news is that, by mischaracterising Cooper...The good news is that, by mischaracterising Cooper's position, the HS has p!$$ed off the state Bar. So, if some LAX players were to sue for libel...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-67408134114818239162007-04-17T07:51:00.000-04:002007-04-17T07:51:00.000-04:0012:16 They are selling true pulp fiction. If you s...12:16 They are selling true pulp fiction. If you subscribe, cancel the subscription. If you advertise, use an alternative distribution channel.<BR/><BR/>It is not an accident that both national and local circulation/broadcast ratings are diving.<BR/><BR/>Given the dishonest nature of the reporting, one would not be surprised in the least to learn that they are manufacturing their subsription numbers. When is the last time they had their circulation numbers audited? Have advertisers demanded an audit? They should.<BR/><BR/>Editorial boards and writers have been stuck in an elevator smelling each other's bad gas for years, joyfully commenting about how fresh the air is in the elevator. They really do not understand that content is king and that bad content isn't mitigated by color pictures and snappy graphics.<BR/><BR/>The comics are PC. The crossword is available on the Internet. My neighbors will tell me when someone dies. Their financial ruin, has forced them to cut national/international desks and use Reuters, which is much worse. Why subsrcibe? Our children won't.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48397098976924665732007-04-17T07:29:00.000-04:002007-04-17T07:29:00.000-04:00anonymous 12:16.....I'm sure we're all sorry your ...anonymous 12:16.....<BR/><BR/>I'm sure we're all sorry your time was wasted.<BR/><BR/>Were you, as a consequence, robbed of the opportunity to write a few more barely literate comments elsewhere?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1235366154074242502007-04-17T06:29:00.000-04:002007-04-17T06:29:00.000-04:00What is amazing is that effective April 15th the D...What is amazing is that effective April 15th the Durham paper is requiring anyone wanting to read their site to register.<BR/><BR/>Sort of like the workbook that the German government under Hitler back in the 1930s.<BR/><BR/>After reading what the Durham paper was like during the Duke case the last thing I would want is to offer them my personal information.<BR/><BR/>That the Durham paper has chosen such an approach speaks only to their continued cowardice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35225841813768833782007-04-17T06:28:00.000-04:002007-04-17T06:28:00.000-04:00Shortly after the outrageous Brianne Dopart piece ...Shortly after the outrageous Brianne Dopart piece of the alleged "swollen" eyes and jaw of Crystal, I wrote a letter to the Hurled-Scum. Not surprisingly, the paper did not print it.<BR/><BR/>The Hurled-Scum's coverage and editorials of this sorry affair have bordered on something we might have seen in Pravda during the old days of the U.S.S.R. Ashley's recent response is straight from the Orwellian Memory Hole. Either Ashley is Nifongingly dishonest or he is delusional. I would hope it is the latter, but I fear the former.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-71227844731060233612007-04-17T04:11:00.000-04:002007-04-17T04:11:00.000-04:00freedom of the press means that the press is free ...freedom of the press means that the press is free to not tell the truth if thats what they wish. even the NY Times, once a great newspaper but now reduced to a partisan rag has refused to come to grips with the fact that its news division is little more than an extension of its editorial page. once again, the power of the web reveals how MSM in general remains clueless in how their world has changed thanks to the presence of the web.james conradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06580947338940209533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20922491726795967342007-04-17T02:34:00.000-04:002007-04-17T02:34:00.000-04:00I'm really curious to see know what, if anything, ...I'm really curious to see know what, if anything, that newspaper will do about their blatantly false front-page article today. So far the website has no indication I can find that anything wrong was ever published...<BR/><BR/>If they don't print a clear and public (not buried on page 12) retraction and correction, this needs to be brought to the attention of national media and commentators -- people who read this newspaper need to know that they've been told such a huge whopper. Their article for tomorrow covering the outrage among community activists about the exoneration -- could that outrage possibly have been stoked by being told (falsely) that the AG had admitted that race played a role in the decision? First they create outrage by lying, then they report on the outrage -- wouldn't that be quite a story?<BR/><BR/>Even if they do admit their error, the nature of this error, since it openly and erroneously stokes existing racial tensions which have been a national story, is arguably a valid news story.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-45147560966631870412007-04-17T01:40:00.000-04:002007-04-17T01:40:00.000-04:00The hoax-enablers claim that the 3 accused men are...The hoax-enablers claim that the 3 accused men are "ok, not guilty, but we know they did <I>something</I> wrong", and of their own actions that "ok, the accused lax players are not guilty, but we did <I>something</I> right."<BR/><BR/>But the hoax enablers cannot point to anything that the 3 accused lax men did wrong, nor anything that the enablers themselves did right. Instead they resort to meta-narratives, which are nothing more than excuses, deception, misdirection, back-pedaling and more lies.<BR/><BR/>Idiots.<BR/><BR/>Go KC! Your work is excellent, and your pen is indeed mighty. Eviscerate the louts and their fraudulent work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-88675399988063362322007-04-17T01:26:00.000-04:002007-04-17T01:26:00.000-04:00There is a question at the heart of my near obsess...There is a question at the heart of my near obsession with this case which is admittedly un-answerable but is nonetheless unavoidable to my angered curiosity - when exactly did the many key enablers know for sure that they were enabling the torment of innocent men?<BR/> For some individuals there is an answer (or a pretty good guess): CGM; from the start. M. Nifong; April 10. R. Brodhead; ? some time in May.<BR/> But what about someone like Ashley or Cash Micheals? I know I am putting this in a very harsh way but dammit, that is the main question that these people will face when they go before The Lords of Karma - who I am sure will not be in a good mood about this story either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-42976063160226992852007-04-17T00:42:00.000-04:002007-04-17T00:42:00.000-04:00This may be insensitive, but I feel it should be n...This may be insensitive, but I feel it should be noted, given the presence of a NCCU student's views in this post, that <B>NCCU is not, in any way, a distinguished or elite university</B>, and, though I am ashamed to think about the Duke community's response during this past year, I experience equally high levels of both outrage and schadenfreude when thinking about the NCCU community.<BR/><BR/>If any student at Duke had made a similar statement to the one Chan Hall made at the infamous townhall meeting, he or she, regardless of their race or other background would have been openly, consistently and unremittingly denounced, ridiculed and mocked. It would have been roundly demanded by the entire student body for that person to step down from any position they held within any Duke organization. I believe that the treatment of Chan Hall at NCCU following his statement could only underly a <B>deep and abiding ignorance and bigotry at a pathetic fraud of a university.</B><BR/><BR/>What sad, simple, stupid lives these people must lead as worthless, hateful sheep.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48309560691330495232007-04-17T00:34:00.000-04:002007-04-17T00:34:00.000-04:00I know I've said this before, but the media respon...I know I've said this before, but the media response, especially in Durham, continues to blow my mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-14516925172151474592007-04-17T00:26:00.000-04:002007-04-17T00:26:00.000-04:00It is almost as if these people were having dinner...It is almost as if these people were having dinner each week as a group for the purpose of deciding how they were going to 'bring down' Duke University and the three students.<BR/><BR/>I can't help but wonder if all the people at those dinners were journalists or did groups at the two universities in Durham have observers at the dinner dialogs?<BR/><BR/>Who moved the message forward that evidence is coming... month after month after month?<BR/><BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15362123055997566782007-04-17T00:25:00.000-04:002007-04-17T00:25:00.000-04:00At this point in time, other than job preservation...At this point in time, other than job preservation, why does Bob Ashley continue to behave as a partisan for Nifong? He must have a political or business agenda that is driving his decision in taking a jounalistic position that is so contrary to reality. He's not acting alone. Does the Kentucky family that owns the newspaper have some interest in this issue? <BR/><BR/>Unlike many issues where you can typically predict how an editorial page will break, this story doesn't seem to carry that kind of left/right type of split. Why has the Observer's coverage been so different?<BR/><BR/>Is there some fundamental split int the Durham community that is just not apparent here? Is this connected in any way to the long standing hostility that Mike Nifong has harbored for Joe Cheshire? And, why that hositility in the first place? Is there some history between Cheshire and Nifong and/or the editor/owners of the Sun that might explain this? <BR/><BR/>Cheshire has been a leading criminal defense attorney in the state for 30 years and a successful one at that. Is there some institutional or establishment agenda here that opposes lawyers like Cheshire?<BR/><BR/>What connection does Broadhead or the trustees have to Ashley and/or the owners of the Sun? <BR/><BR/>I'd be interesting in knowing more on this subject.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08568176025554441599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28850809005055220462007-04-17T00:22:00.000-04:002007-04-17T00:22:00.000-04:00i knew you were an honorable mani knew you were an honorable manAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com