tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post335564331830285120..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: The Sports Reporterskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger50125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-40523480782807454012010-01-31T21:47:32.763-05:002010-01-31T21:47:32.763-05:00Awesome! Best topic, but will this really work?Awesome! Best topic, but will this really work?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62091540301293180232007-03-11T12:24:00.000-04:002007-03-11T12:24:00.000-04:00Terrific commentary,” raved the professor of Educa...<B>Terrific commentary,” raved the professor of Education, “especially in light of the sickening display of sham virtue by the students involved and the parents determined to ‘get’ Nifong.</B><BR/><BR/>In a cesspool that includes the group of 88/8x, Broadhead, and Nifong, you don't have to be very virtuous to look virtuous. In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king.....<BR/><BR/>As for 'getting' Nifong....read his response to the Bar....he impeaches himself. One must apparently stand in a rather long line to 'get' Nifong, and he himself is at the head of it....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52478857238771510642007-03-05T23:37:00.000-05:002007-03-05T23:37:00.000-05:00Duke lacrosse No. 1 for first time ever© 2007 The ...Duke lacrosse No. 1 for first time ever<BR/><BR/>© 2007 The Associated Press / March 5, 2007 6:34 PM<BR/><BR/>DURHAM, N.C. — Nearly a year after its season was canceled amid rape allegations against three players, Duke's lacrosse team topped the national rankings for the first time in school history Monday.<BR/><BR/>The Blue Devils (3-0) received six of 10 first-place votes in the USILA coaches poll to move past Georgetown for the top spot, and also reached No. 1 in the Nike/Inside Lacrosse media poll, earning 13 of 16 first-place votes.<BR/><BR/>"The polls and rankings are stuff for the fans and media to talk about," first-year coach John Danowski said. "For this team, we need to be focused on getting better each day and preparing for the next opponent."<BR/><BR/>This is Duke's first full season since a woman alleged she was raped by three men in a bathroom at a team party where she was hired to perform as a stripper last March.<BR/><BR/>Reade Seligmann, Collin Finnerty and David Evans were charged with rape, sexual offense and kidnapping. The rape charges against the three were dropped in December.<BR/><BR/>Attorneys for the three players have said their clients are innocent.Gary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84181478343467084582007-03-05T23:08:00.000-05:002007-03-05T23:08:00.000-05:00Anon 1:32Athletes are committed and dedicated to t...Anon 1:32<BR/>Athletes are committed and dedicated to their morals, values, work ethics,team efforts and school spirit. Not all athletes receive "favors" for their devotion to playing a sport for their school. <BR/>Here are some of the favors my children received as student athletes:<BR/>In addition to a full schedule of classes:<BR/>1)Getting up every day at 5am to sign in at the gym for work out<BR/>2)Hours of practice/day<BR/>3)Verbally abusive behavior by coaches<BR/>4)Spring vacations traveling with the team to play games<BR/>5)Spending holiday breaks at school when everyone else went home and the school was closed (that means no cafeteria)<BR/>6)Mandatory sign-in study/library time<BR/>7)Minimal scholarship money<BR/>8)Mandatory team functions and meetings despite midterm or endterm schedule<BR/>9)Games on any day during the week & weekend<BR/>10)At times required to miss class for games <BR/>11)Buying expensive practice equipment (Division 1 school)<BR/>12)Traveling by bus for games, arriving home late at night and being required to get up at 5am next day<BR/>13)Required participation in spring and fall sports program<BR/>14)Continuous workout schedule throughout the year<BR/>15)Running laps at end of games they did not win<BR/><BR/>Just to name a fewAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80701863159152153872007-03-05T20:05:00.000-05:002007-03-05T20:05:00.000-05:00KC,Want to know why Lester Munson doesn't practice...KC,<BR/><BR/>Want to know why Lester Munson doesn't practice law anymore?<BR/><BR/>Check out Illinois ARDC (attorney registration and disciplinary commission).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-54396622869560060272007-03-05T17:34:00.000-05:002007-03-05T17:34:00.000-05:00I wrote an email to Bomani Jones on the day his co...I wrote an email to Bomani Jones on the day his column was posted, just as some others on this forum have done. I decided to go the route of questioning his manhood for a few reasons; a) his column <I>avoided</I> discussing the real issues in the lax case in what I considered a cowardly fashion; b) a woman at Liestoppers, Joan Foster, obliterated his argument with a show of literary courage that should shame Jones; and c) I saw a pic of Jones with him in a fur (probably faux-fur) full length coat with a mean-ass gangsta expression on his face that said, "I'm so bad," so I figured him for a typical full of his macho self sportswriter who'd be susceptible to teeth-grinding aggravation when his manhood is questioned. And, also, as the email states, Jones says we should shun these players because they've been involved in 36 disciplinary incidents, including public urination! I mean, how pansyfied is that?<BR/><BR/>So I just had to stick it to him. Plus anyone who has to tell you how "objective" he is obviously can't be trusted.<BR/><BR/>Jones didn't respond to me either by blog or email.<BR/><BR/>Mr Jones:<BR/><BR/>I write to provide a link for you to Liestoppers, where your pusillanimous column on the Duke LAX case is expertly and passionately skewered and destroyed by Joan Foster.<BR/><BR/>Since you're nearly faint from shock that "36 separate disciplinary incidents," including (gasp!) "public urination," have been linked to the team, I hope your editor has admonished you to keep smelling salts by your desk. And of course, with your delicate constitution, surely ESPN finds it necessary to assign stronger men than you to report on, say, the Pacman Jones story. You wouldn't be up to it. His seven recent arrests and presence at a shooting where a man was left paralyzed would have you quivering behind your mother's apron.<BR/><BR/>Here's the link to Foster, a woman with the COURAGE to say what's really happened in this case. Read it, and, since I'm sure you keep hankies at the ready, weep:<BR/><BR/>http://liestoppers.blogspot.com/<BR/><BR/>Signed, etc.<BR/><BR/>P.S. By the way, exactly how many times did these miscreants pee outside?becket03https://www.blogger.com/profile/18173177473977303546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-69055955374015099602007-03-05T15:47:00.000-05:002007-03-05T15:47:00.000-05:00rockymountainmanThanks for the link. That article ...rockymountainman<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link. That article is, in several respects, a healthy reminder to us all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-74342704903546872312007-03-05T15:34:00.000-05:002007-03-05T15:34:00.000-05:00I sent an email to the ESPN omnibustman. Do not ex...I sent an email to the ESPN omnibustman. Do not expect a reply. They are pandering to their readership. Boycott this station,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1894705291074441192007-03-05T15:10:00.000-05:002007-03-05T15:10:00.000-05:00Like Cash, Jones is small time. People writing int...Like Cash, Jones is small time. People writing into Mail Call, only make him think he is Somebody. - he is not only nobody, he is dumb. Let those who agree with him support him. Wtihout support from the white community, he like Cash will fade away. Jason Whitlock is usually a thoughtful commentator. He can not be that bad if fired from ESPN.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6790443262980526962007-03-05T15:01:00.000-05:002007-03-05T15:01:00.000-05:00To point out resentment toward college athletes fr...To point out resentment toward college athletes from an academic standpoint is still a difficult case. As Myles Brand loves to point out, athletes at all levels are graduating at a higher rate than the regular student body.<BR/><BR/>Obviously, the financial issue comes into play here, as many athletes on full or partial scholarships face fewer hurdles, but considering the time commitment involved, there's a balance in place. <BR/><BR/>The fact is, an athletes-vs-students storyline here is a shallow one to dwell in.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84241504013823833442007-03-05T14:24:00.000-05:002007-03-05T14:24:00.000-05:00"Why would another son of impressive wealth go out...<I>"Why would another son of impressive wealth go out of his way in Georgetown to beat a gay man for no reason?"</I><BR/><BR/>This really convinces me that Munson has read a lot about the case--NOT. <BR/><BR/>(And a side note to judge Bayly and US Atty. Weinstein : yes, stealing someone's good name, even if done in the name of good politics, does damage him more than if you had stolen his purse. Shakespeare got that one right.)<BR/><BR/>Petition for Justice in the Duke Lacrosse case :<BR/><BR/>http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/208340697 <BR/><BR/>Let's see if an army of techno Davids can defeat the political establishment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-88808232978921066372007-03-05T14:11:00.000-05:002007-03-05T14:11:00.000-05:00>>It is the case that in some Rape cases there is ...<<<“Its absence is not important. There are hundreds of men in penitentiaries across the United States who were convicted of rape without their DNA being found on the victim.>>><BR/><BR/><BR/>It is the case that in some Rape cases there is no DNA however given the specific allegations of this case there would have been DNA. How many cases are there with No DNA, No Condom, and an alleged victim who took a rape exam within hours of the alleged event without washing?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83098705920398837932007-03-05T13:58:00.000-05:002007-03-05T13:58:00.000-05:00I'd like to bring to your attention, if no-one els...I'd like to bring to your attention, if no-one else has, this notable editorial from Black Athletes Sports Network:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.blackathlete.net/artman/publish/article_02745.shtml" REL="nofollow">Hard Lessons From The Duke Rape Case</A><BR/>by Earl Ofari Hutchinson, <BR/>published on Jan 7, 2007Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6331341352148218522007-03-05T13:56:00.000-05:002007-03-05T13:56:00.000-05:00If you rank the worst examples of supposed "journa...If you rank the worst examples of supposed "journalists" covering this case then Munson goes at the top of list along with Cash Michaels and Nifong's piss boys at the Herald-Sun. He's a complete jackazz.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43677521501374471972007-03-05T13:32:00.000-05:002007-03-05T13:32:00.000-05:00There will always be a bias against athletes becau...There will always be a bias against athletes because they seem to get special treatment in ways which help them at an age when they cant appreciate it or dont know what to do with it.<BR/><BR/>As long as athletes can get accepted to colleges that they wouldnt otherwise get accepted to just because they can play a sport, then there will be a problem.<BR/><BR/>The kid who lost his or her admission spot to an let in a non qualifier who can play sports deserves to have resentment against the system. When so many athletes flame out of school because of legal or academic trouble or dont bother to earn a degree, then something is wrong.<BR/><BR/>Most people that hate of them are jealous of their athletic talent, but there is a group out there who hates them because they receive special favors. Unfortunately for the athletes, they are often assumed guilty because of their overall behavior. It is a price you pay for fame.<BR/><BR/>No matter what you think of athletes, once all the information comes out, if people are innocent, they need to be treated as such. Why these charges stil have not been dropped is beyond me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-25336546132312365182007-03-05T13:00:00.000-05:002007-03-05T13:00:00.000-05:00Another disturbing trend is the David and Goliath ...Another disturbing trend is the David and Goliath sereno. Comments of 9 to 13 defense attorneys against Nifong. Not the state of North Carolina and all its powers, but poor alone Nifong. Not to many commentators remember or even know that the NC Prosecutors had offered him help, which he turned down. Its clear, he could not keep the record straight. Imagine what his in-box looks like.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50975525484183585642007-03-05T12:59:00.000-05:002007-03-05T12:59:00.000-05:00Just to add a little to 9:56's response to 2:43, n...Just to add a little to 9:56's response to 2:43, not that it seems likely that 2:43 will care: <BR/><BR/>The racial epithets: One neighbor reported hearing the "cotton shirt" remark; Kim Roberts also said this remark was made, after she got into a dispute in which she used a crude racially-based description of the team members she was arguing with. So that's one. Kim Roberts also said on 60 Minutes that the "n--" word echoed--but if you read her entire statement she was saying that because it echoed, it may have sounded like more than one person said it, even though she thinks it was only said once. (In fact, "echoed" actually means a repetition of a sound that is originally made only once--because it bounces off surrounding surfaces.) So that's two, if these witnesses are correct--and we don't know whether they may have been said by the same person. So this gives us some evidence that one, or two, members of the lacrosse team may have made racist remarks or may even be racist--not much on which to base a conclusion about "the racism of the lax team." If 2:43 is still thinking, because of the 911 call, that lax team members were shouting racial epithets randomly at passersby, he or she needs to remember that that call, and that claim, were made by Kim Roberts, pretending to be a passerby (as she also stated on 60 Minutes). Roberts also clearly stated that none of the three indicted players was involved in this verbal exchange. <BR/><BR/> One other thing--I have seen many statements like 2:43's that "these young thugs threatened to sodomise [sic] the women"--but that is far from clear either. First, no one has ever suggested that more than one person made any such remark; second, there are conflicting accounts about what was said and with what intent. According to some reports, there was a discussion of whether the dancers had sex toys, and one person apparently said he could provide a broom for that purpose. This is a disgusting remark, for sure--but if that account is accurate, it's not a threat of sodomy; it's just a very crude attempt at humor. <BR/><BR/>And to those, like 2:43, who want to attribute every bit of bad behavior by any individual on the team to the entire team, think for a minute about whether you do this in your own life. Are you equally responsible for everything you disagree with or disapprove of done by every person who is a member of your family, school activity, club, athletic team, fellow employees at your workplace, church, nation?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-22729574230307615992007-03-05T12:03:00.000-05:002007-03-05T12:03:00.000-05:002:43 AMjones...is perfectly capable of processing ...2:43 AM<BR/><I>jones...is perfectly capable of processing the info; he has just come to another conclusion with the same set of circumstances and so have a lot of the black community.</I><BR/><BR/>You know, I'll bet Bomani Jones <I>is</I> quite capable of processing the info on this case: he just isn't doing it. Now I wonder why that is? Can't be bias, because Jones has already ruled that out.<BR/><BR/>Well, whatever is the mysterious reason, you'd have to be crazy to go in front of a jury that included Jones or anyone who thinks like him. Never mind the charges - those "racial epithets" Bomani and 2:43 are so worried about would absolutely require a guilty verdict. <BR/><BR/>And they don't see a darned thing wrong with that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83394485553219032542007-03-05T12:01:00.000-05:002007-03-05T12:01:00.000-05:00Thank you KC for posting Munson's response which i...Thank you KC for posting Munson's response which is indicative of his inattention to the details of the case.<BR/><BR/>I would not think of making public commentary, particularly "expert" commentary about something as important as a criminal case without learning all of the details available.<BR/><BR/>Munson's incredible remark of broomstick(s), the women's "sence (sic) of menace that caused them to bolt" (note to Munson, the alleged victim didn't "bolt" anywhere, she had to be helped to the car), and the borderline libelous comment about Finnerty and the DC confrontation shows a lack of understanding that goes far beyond mere unprofessionalism. I can't believe this guy is a Chicago law grad.<BR/><BR/>At least there's an appropriate element to Mr. Munson's last name, to borrow a line from a Farrelly brothers' movie one would be "Munsoned in the middle of nowhere" if they make public comments without knowledge of the underlying facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-13639550325133669572007-03-05T11:56:00.000-05:002007-03-05T11:56:00.000-05:00Jones's bio says attended UNC - not graduated. Any...Jones's bio says attended UNC - not graduated. Anyone know the truth?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43397670307693070992007-03-05T11:27:00.001-05:002007-03-05T11:27:00.001-05:00Well Munson was right. Nifong was "managing the di...Well Munson was right. Nifong was "managing the discovery and did have a suprise for the defense". All of which came to light on December 15th. Is Munson really laying low now? I boycott both SI and ESPN for their coverage and obvious bias (dare I say lies) of the situation. Forget Jones, he is stand up stupid. I hope these guys are included in the law suit - yes. ESPN also. Follow the money. Where is Cash? Jones and Cash - of Durham and Cary fame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18516694716021372342007-03-05T11:27:00.000-05:002007-03-05T11:27:00.000-05:00Well Munson was right. Nifong was "managing the di...Well Munson was right. Nifong was "managing the discovery and did have a suprise for the defense". All of which came to light on December 15th. Is Munson really laying low now? I boycott both SI and ESPN for their coverage and obvious bias (dare I say lies) of the situation. Forget Jones, he is stand up stupid. I hope these guys are included in the law suit - yes. ESPN also. Follow the money. Where is Cash? Jones and Cash - of Durham and Cary fame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-17098132546826744422007-03-05T10:17:00.000-05:002007-03-05T10:17:00.000-05:00It has been clear to us ESPN junkies for a long ti...It has been clear to us ESPN junkies for a long time that they are as biased as is possible to be. If you ain't PC you don't work there. Period. The worst offenders that I saw were Jim Rome and that clown Kornheiser. Both of them climbed all over the case especially featuring the rich (and hopefully soon to be sued) author John Feinstein. ESPN is racist (black is everything), and sometimes their bias creeps into game coverage. Glad you are taking the time to point this out.Howardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17094289894120872270noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49280957930543213822007-03-05T10:01:00.000-05:002007-03-05T10:01:00.000-05:00I can't believe anyone would dare suggest these yo...I can't believe anyone would dare suggest these young men have sustained no damage from this case. They are forever branded as accused rapists. In the mind of many leftists they will always be guilty- at they were judged guilty right after the initial accusation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-66515475896259743662007-03-05T09:56:00.000-05:002007-03-05T09:56:00.000-05:002:43 said:jones' mind is not incapable of processi...2:43 said:<BR/><BR/><I>jones' mind is not incapable of processing the info as you have stated. he is perfectly capable of processing the info; he has just come to another conclusion with the same set of circumstances</I><BR/><BR/>In order to hold onto his conclusions, he's had to choose carefully from the info that's come out, ignoring such things as the full Duke report on the investigation of the lacrosse team, and the fact that much of what Nifong said (that led to bad opinions of the team) has been shown to be false.<BR/><BR/><I>stop trying to minimize the racism of the lax team. you know that more than one person was accused of racial epithets</I><BR/><BR/>Any evidence that the three indicted players were accused of this? Is it acceptable to prosecute for imagined violent crimes because of what some in the same room are claimed to have said?<BR/><BR/><I>who knows what else they said and did</I><BR/><BR/>Is it acceptable to prosecute for imagined violent crimes because of what we imagine some in the same room <I>might</I> have said or done?<BR/><BR/><I>nifong went silent after the indictments</I><BR/><BR/>His silence included such things as a long interview with the NY Times.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com