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The death of PC is one of the only positive things to come out of this mess. I would quess that hiring black strippers (Yes-strippers not exotic dancers) is way down or certainly should be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-69230683229841375892006-12-22T11:43:00.000-05:002006-12-22T11:43:00.000-05:00Actually, I have been willing to subsidize them my...Actually, I have been willing to subsidize them my whole adult life - just to keep them quiet and some sense of mistaken white guilt(my family came here from Ireland in the 1880s). I doult we can get away from supporting them, but no more PC. I do not hate or dislike these people - tired of their inability to take care of themselves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-63553446275820654202006-12-22T11:22:00.000-05:002006-12-22T11:22:00.000-05:00for a scholarly tratment of blacks' meager contrib...for a scholarly tratment of blacks' meager contribution to civilization, read charles murray's "human accomplishment"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79430543009829014812006-12-22T11:03:00.000-05:002006-12-22T11:03:00.000-05:00In response to 1:30am--- it is you and your ilk w...In response to 1:30am--- it is you and your ilk who have been spinning this case to your own benefit. Like many, I heard Nifong proclaim them "hooligans" and he said he had a very clear case of rape and that he had the proof.<br /><br />No one thought about going after the accuser at all. Mike Nifong made this a RACE CASE and you loved it! You are exactly like the Duke 88 who live off the RACE ISSUE while contributing little, and then try to blame white people when your snotty noses start running.<br /><br />How does it feel to continue to bleed the past--your own ancestors who really did suffer--and use them to become lifelong parasites on society? No one wants to have negativity over this, but it is black people who mill about the streets just looking for some reason to riot and scream about something so that they can get a financial windfall--bleeding and bleeding the RACE ISSUE.<br /><br />Well, I'll tell you one thing, most of us are just sick of it and will not let this kind of extortion continue. YOU and NIFONG picked the wrong case in order to screw some white people.<br /><br />JUSTICE will be done.<br /><br />Sure, blacks have contributed to society, but not on any substantive scale. Work on it. Instead of using the RACE ISSUE as a free ride.<br /><br />Like Middle Eastern Arabs who have a long and productive history---centuries ago. The Pyramids of Giza are amazing, but this is the 21st century and they are still back in the 12th century.<br /><br />Blacks in this country are similar in their lack of productivity. If you see footage from the Middle East, they are just milling about in the streets ready to riot and flip their tongues in and out of their mouths to make animal sounds---cursing Americans.<br /><br />They have time to riot because they don't work very much. Just always ready for a riot.<br /><br />Much like blacks in America.<br /><br />Yeah, blacks have most certainly contributed-----but what have they done for this country lately?<br /><br />Most of us are tired of their way of life and won't continue to subsidize it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-66391315713160330992006-12-22T07:38:00.000-05:002006-12-22T07:38:00.000-05:00The definition is from Webster's.
ObserverThe definition is from Webster's.<br /><br />ObserverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-798910436049365922006-12-22T07:34:00.000-05:002006-12-22T07:34:00.000-05:00To 1:30,
The defense team has competely opened ...To 1:30,<br /> The defense team has competely opened up the evidence/discovery file to a number of people. This discovery came from Mr. Nifong. There is no "spin" to it. Much of it has been released to the public. No one who has examined it believes there is a case against the defendants. <br /> A lot of ugly comments have been made about the defendants as part of the LAX team. Of all people you should understand that it is wrong to exaggerate the misdeeds of a group as a whole, and then use them to vilify individual members of the group suggesting these people must be guilty of kidnapping and rape because of the underage drinking (and offenses that go along with it) of the larger group. I believe this is called "prejudice"--"an opinion formed before the facts are known; preconceived, usually unfavorable, idea. 2. an opinion held in disregard of facts that contradict it; unreasonable bias." The "facts" here are in the evidence. What you, like many before you, have done is ignore the evidence and given in to your prejudices...a human failing no doubt, but, as we have seen over many centuries, something we all need to work diligently to eradicate.<br /><br />ObserverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-38811874581596119972006-12-22T07:28:00.000-05:002006-12-22T07:28:00.000-05:001:30 a.m.
As to your #2 -- the charges in this ca...1:30 a.m.<br /><br />As to your #2 -- the charges in this case are RAPE & Kidnapping. Yes, Nifong and the 'stripper' are being vilified because these charges are demonstrably false.<br /><br />The "Duke 3" and the rest of the LAX took responsibility and apologized for their actions on 3/13 & 3/14 which no one denies were stupid and illegal (underage drinking, etc.). They were punished by Duke for these offenses -- the LAX season was cancelled & several were kicked out of school. DPD have gone out of their way to charge, prosecute and convict Duke students for these types of violations (while letting others in the community get away with the same offenses or worse) Gottlieb in particular. I haven't seen anyone calling these young me "heroes". <br /><br />Your comments mirror those of Brodhead -- well if they didn't commit RAPE, what they did do was bad enough. <br /><br />Give me a break, underage drinking, peeing in public, noise... those offenses were bad enough for what they are currently going through?? If you (and the blacks in Durham) really believe this, I hope one day you (they) are falsely accused and have to pay (emotionally and financially) to defend yourself from the false charges.<br /><br />I really don't wish this on anyone -- but, if blacks feel justified somehow, in tuning out the defense because they consider it 'spin' and believe this case should go to court and these defendants s/b convicted when they're admittedly only paying attention to one side of the case; WHY, in the future, when an AA is falsely charged would these same blacks expect any white person to listen to their alibis, their defense - whites should consider their defense, just spin?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-81924781868684152892006-12-22T07:26:00.000-05:002006-12-22T07:26:00.000-05:00can we stop with the antiblack posts?
OK, the acc...can we stop with the antiblack posts?<br /><br />OK, the accuser is black and Duke, like all elite schools, gives such preference to blacks it's like they attend a different university<br /><br />can we leave it at that?<br /><br />jeez<br /><br />jcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-76864547347050547132006-12-22T07:20:00.000-05:002006-12-22T07:20:00.000-05:00"they intrepret every defense utterance as spin an..."they intrepret every defense utterance as spin and an apologia for racist thugs"<br /><br />Meanwhile, closer to the action:<br />1) Their black teammate says they are not racists and are like "brothers" to him.<br />2) Prof. Coleman, a AA Duke Law prof, denounces any suggestion that they are racists based on his committees in-depth study of the lax team.<br />3) The other stripper Kim, also an AA, says the language didn't get ugly until one player, not one of the accused, reacted to her "limp d*** white boys" slur. <br /><br />Folks, once a suggestion of racism is made, nothing else matters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-45294338913952694092006-12-22T07:15:00.000-05:002006-12-22T07:15:00.000-05:00the duke lacrosse case is just another example of ...the duke lacrosse case is just another example of black-on-white crime--precious is an animal<br /><br />n0, it's not "racist" to point out that blacks would be better off back in sub-saharan africa<br /><br />that way they won't need affirmative action, welfare, etc--if they get hungry, they can always revert to cannibalismAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4792346698700540592006-12-22T01:30:00.000-05:002006-12-22T01:30:00.000-05:001.All the white racists chiming in on this thread ...1.All the white racists chiming in on this thread is ample proof of how racist the duke 3's supporters are. <br /><br />2.What irvin said is what a lot of blacks think: that the stripper and Nifong are being vilified but the duke 3 and the rest of the lacrosse team are being given a pass and are being called "innocent" and "fine young men", "heroes" and THEIR poor behavior is ok(please note that the poor behavior is not a matter of opinion as another WHITE man, bissey, corroborated their comments and they were ALREADY on social probation for other offenses from their coach and the team had a high disciplinary rate both criminally and in the Duke system). That fact is percieved as evidence of racism and that is why a lot of the durham blacks have tuned the defense team out from the beginning. they intrepret every defense utterance as spin and an apologia for racist thugs and have done so ever since evans was declaiming on the courthouse steps calling the team whose behavior was reprehensible, "heroes"!<br /><br />3.and for those posters calling blacks animals, the Lax team acted like animals. Animals piss on things, attack other people in a mob and run like cockroaches when the police come<br /><br />4.for the posters saying blacks have contributed nothing to arts and sciences--blacks have created most of the popular music created in America--Jazz, r and B, rock nd roll and rap. Dance forms of jazz, tap and were big contributors to modern dance as well. Black scientists invented blood typing and plasma storage, peanut butter and peanut oil, the traffic light and many other inventions. Those saying this are ignorant and definitely low IQ!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59966452138833549002006-12-21T23:15:00.000-05:002006-12-21T23:15:00.000-05:00Windbag has a more realistic take on this situatio...Windbag has a more realistic take on this situation. Many still cannot bring themselves to tell the truth about how we all have to continually make allowances for blacks in almost every walk of life.<br /><br />How can anyone talk about being "equal" when they live life only to be given special treatment? And all the time?<br /><br />Truth is that blacks commit most of the crime and they only make up about 13 % of the population. All these people who are afraid to tell the truth are hiding the fact that they are afraid.<br /><br />That helps no one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68304238179559469582006-12-21T22:34:00.000-05:002006-12-21T22:34:00.000-05:00Prof Anderson:
I agree with you 100% that prosecu...Prof Anderson:<br /><br />I agree with you 100% that prosecutors are a crooked bunch, and you have really skewered the prosecutors in NC (good job!!!), but i think the DOJ would have acted from more quickly if these defendants had been black. jackson and sharpton would have demanded it and they wouldn't have stopped until they got the fed's intervention.<br /><br />just have a look at ny today. they were protesting that "victim" who rammed his car into the undercover police car time and again. <br /><br />WINDBAGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47584285498205914132006-12-21T22:27:00.000-05:002006-12-21T22:27:00.000-05:00Ours is a system that relies on precedence. Belie...Ours is a system that relies on precedence. Believe me, if Nifong continues to get away with this nonsense, both whites and blacks will pay.<br /><br />Prosecutors across the country are an increasingly dishonest bunch. Look at Nancy Grace, for example. She used to cheat when she was a prosecutor, even when she had slam-dunk cases. Why? Because she could, that's why.<br /><br />Most likely, prosecutors across the country are looking at Nifong rather enviously, saying something like: "I wish I could get away with something like this."<br /><br />Black males are more likely to deal with the justice system than whites, and one would think that they would care more about abuses in the system. Guess I was wrong.<br /><br />Of course, on the other side, there are people like Thomas Sowell and James Coleman who have stood up to Nifong and have hammered him from the start. But the NAACP has been craven since the beginning, unfortunately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62459464721820156732006-12-21T22:13:00.000-05:002006-12-21T22:13:00.000-05:00Prof Anderson:
With all due respect you miss the ...Prof Anderson:<br /><br />With all due respect you miss the point here. No more black males face the probability of conviction because the dna is being ignored.<br /><br />The black view of this is, "its racist if you use dna against blacks" and "its racist if you use dna to exonerate whites." That's it period. in the black mind, they win both ways. OJ on the one hand and lax on the other - these are the applicable examples.<br /><br />You're more accurate when you call this a show trial. Evidence is conveniently used or ignored to further an agenda or to promote the interests of blacks over whites.<br /><br />You're dreaming if you think this has a negative impact on black defendants.<br /><br />WINDBAGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50079239271221269442006-12-21T22:09:00.000-05:002006-12-21T22:09:00.000-05:00to 8:09:
i am one of the racists on this board. ...to 8:09:<br /><br />i am one of the racists on this board. this case has been driven by race, and its time that people like you realize it. the black leadership in durham (and nationally for that matter) do not believe in fairness or justice. they believe in the subjugation of whites to blacks. if this case and oj haven't taught you that yet, i wish you luck. you'll need it.<br /><br />but what bearing do my views about race have on the evidence (or more properly, the lack of it) that a rape occurred? None. <br /><br />if you're blind to the broader issues of this case, that's your problem. but you should confine your comments then to the facts of the case (i'm speaking of the one against the lax players, not the one that will be coming against nifong).<br /><br />ps: we lived fine separtely for a couple of hundred years. so, i disagree with the mlk quote, though i know to people like you that is like disagreeing with God himself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-81150925148185354902006-12-21T22:07:00.001-05:002006-12-21T22:07:00.001-05:00Neufeld's comments are misleading. Indeed, if a w...Neufeld's comments are misleading. Indeed, if a woman reports a rape several days after the event, none of the DNA is considered scientifically reliable. Thus, police and prosecutors rely on testimony and other factors.<br /><br />I must add, however, that in the Duke case the factors are quite different:<br /><br />1. The alleged rape was reported soon after the party, so police could treat CGM's body as a "crime scene;"<br />2. Reliable DNA samples were able to be taken from the woman;<br />3. Other physical factors either were not there, or there is another explanation. For example, the "edema" issue also can be explained by the (a) vibrator she used that day, and (b) by the other men with whom she had sex.<br /><br />In other words, this was a case in which had there been a rape, there would have been DNA of the lacrosse players. Nifong and others are not presenting an accurate picture, and the press either is too stupid or too craven to understand the difference between the actual scenario and the scenario that relates to the Neufeld quotes.<br /><br />By the way, I use the Neufeld quote in my article that will appear on Lew Rockwell's page on Friday.<br /><br />What is so disturbing about this case is that the basic standards of proof and science simply are being ignored because of the politics of race. Blacks have to understand that because black males are accused of rape more often than white males, if this case is permitted to continue, more black males will be wrongfully convicted.<br /><br />Ironically, I would say there is a chance that some of the black men who now are demanding a rape conviction in the future may well be in the dock facing their own wrongful accusation. However, because of what the blacks in Durham are demanding, the prospects of more wrongful convictions of blacks are a greater reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62159838241312785652006-12-21T22:07:00.000-05:002006-12-21T22:07:00.000-05:00To 9:34, what do you mean "some of you" there it ...To 9:34, what do you mean "some of you" there it goes again. More racist remarks against our sister, that was rapped and piliged by these rich guys from Duke. You should be ashamed of yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4502839381781271812006-12-21T21:53:00.000-05:002006-12-21T21:53:00.000-05:00Let me have a do over on my 9:31 PM comment.
To B...Let me have a do over on my 9:31 PM comment.<br /><br />To Bill Anderson - FYI, the following is an exerpt from the May 13 ABC News article on the DNASI report: <br /><br /><I>Experts say that the absence of conclusive DNA evidence would not necessarily be a fatal blow to the prosecution's case. They cite a figure stating that 75 percent to 80 percent of rape prosecutions do not involve forensic evidence such as DNA. <br /><br />"The truth is if you speak to crime lab directors, they will tell you that in only a relatively small number of cases is there any DNA evidence," said <B>Peter Neufeld, co-founder and co-director of the Innocence Project</b>, which uses DNA to free people wrongly imprisoned. "In rape cases, there is an expectation of DNA. But like many expectations, often it is misplaced."</i> <br /><br /><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1958031&page=1">http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1958031&page=1</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-38489692409076555092006-12-21T21:44:00.000-05:002006-12-21T21:44:00.000-05:00Will the City be sending out a news release regard...Will the City be sending out a news release regarding the misleading information circulated by the DA's office, DPD and its DNA contractor to the citizens of Durham, the USA and beyond? <br /><br />From the City Of Durham, NC websitie http://www.durhamnc.gov/news/<br />Thursday, November 16, 2006<br /><br />Misleading Information Being Circulated to Southwest Durham Residents<br />Concerned Residents Urged to Contact N.C. Attorney General's Office<br /><br />It has come to the attention of the City and County of Durham that many residents in the Kentington Heights neighborhood (Massey Chapel Road area) in southwestern Durham have recently received a letter regarding selling their property to a developer. The letter threatens that if they do not sell their property to the developer, the City or the County of Durham could proceed with eminent domain and could take the "entire development for the public good." The letter goes on to state that residents will receive much less money through eminent domain than they would receive from the developer for the property.<br /><br />Neither the City nor the County have plans to exercise eminent domain in this area. According to County Attorney Chuck Kitchen, under North Carolina law eminent domain cannot be used in this manner.<br /><br />Any residents of the Kentington Heights neighborhood who have received the letter are urged to call the North Carolina Attorney General's Office at 877-5-NO-SCAM with concerns.<br /><br /># # #<br /><br />Good Things Are Happening In Durham<br />Published: 11/16/206 - Last Edited: 12/11/2006Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59552879077498463562006-12-21T21:34:00.000-05:002006-12-21T21:34:00.000-05:009:20-- You and some others are sick and deluded p...9:20-- You and some others are sick and deluded people. Just look at the above cited article and read what Michael Irvin was saying about this lacrosse case.<br />You do no one any good by keeping your head in the sand. Some of us have bent over backward in our lives for good race relations. Some of us held no ill will for black people at all--until we were hit up beside the head by the uncivilized element in the black community whom we unwittingly have been "communing" with forever.<br />Some of you who are so "offended" by this probably have never had a personal experience with anyone outside your closed environment or never had a serious relationship with anyone of another race. So you can spout this meaningless bullsh!t.<br />The truth is that the lacrosse case has brought out in front of the entire country what we are dealing with regarding the black community.<br /><br />I say f**k 'em. No human will take down these 3 innocent men or anyone like them. I would be saying the same thing if they were innocent black men, but African racists and career whiners cannot further their agenda without their bullsh!t victimhood hoax.<br />I say--enough! F**k 'em.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-63091913037001476002006-12-21T21:31:00.000-05:002006-12-21T21:31:00.000-05:00To Bill Anderson - FYI, the following an exerpt fr...To Bill Anderson - FYI, the following an exerpt from the May 13 ABC News article on the DNASI: <br /><br /><I>Experts say that the absence of conclusive DNA evidence would not necessarily be a fatal blow to the prosecution's case. They cite a figure stating that 75 percent to 80 percent of rape prosecutions do not involve forensic evidence such as DNA. <br /><br />"The truth is if you speak to crime lab directors, they will tell you that in only a relatively small number of cases is there any DNA evidence," said <B>Peter Neufeld, co-founder and co-director of the Innocence Project</b>, which uses DNA to free people wrongly imprisoned. "In rape cases, there is an expectation of DNA. But like many expectations, often it is misplaced."</i> <br /><br /><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1958031&page=1">http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/story?id=1958031&page=1</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com