tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post4497091550086151493..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Sunday Roundupkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19074760238990527692007-04-30T23:53:00.000-04:002007-04-30T23:53:00.000-04:00KC said "And now DailyKos has gotten into the act,...KC said "And now DailyKos has gotten into the act, with a post from Betsy Angert..."<BR/><BR/>Wrong. It wasn't a post; it was a diary, of which there are several hundred daily. And the huge majority of commenters strongly rejected the diary; check the ratings on the many rejecting comments.<BR/><BR/>This is like tarring the whole of the NY Times with guilt by association. <BR/><BR/>Beneath you, KC, you normally superb reporter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41727474566424967852007-04-30T02:32:00.000-04:002007-04-30T02:32:00.000-04:00People go to the best school they can get into nor...People go to the best school they can get into normally. If it is Duke, they will go. Although nothing could persuade me to go to NC, let alone Durham, that is not true for kids going to university.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46593277417345834492007-04-30T02:19:00.000-04:002007-04-30T02:19:00.000-04:00There's no question that the stink of AAAS will af...There's no question that the stink of AAAS will affect Duke's ranking.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84363868913218533592007-04-30T00:59:00.000-04:002007-04-30T00:59:00.000-04:00Anonymous said... I love the Duke haters on here s...Anonymous said... <BR/>I love the Duke haters on here saying Duke will decline in status and the poor parent of some kid who could never get into Duke if their life depended on it saying, "Why would anyone send their kid to Duke?" Duke is so much more than this case, so much more than Brodhead or lacrosse or any of these things that will all go away with the passage of time. Duke continues to get great athletes, continues to send kids to great graduate schools, Duke students continue to do loads of volunteer work in Durham and high school seniors continue to apply there in the thousands. Sorry, no decline for Duke because of this silliness, in spite of the haters fervent hopes. <BR/><BR/>Apr 29, 2007 5:21:00 PM <BR/><BR/><BR/>re the above:<BR/><BR/>1. Not everybody that has this opinion about Duke is a "Duke hater". Duke is a great university--anybody who has visited the campus or know some of their alumni realize this. Duke's grad schools are world class. Many of us<BR/>fear that what happened at Duke (esp Brodhead and the gang of 88) could easily happen other schools. <BR/><BR/>2. Again, would another Christian Laettner/Grant Hill go to Duke again (at least right now)? Doubtful. Will ambitious northeasteners look at Duke as a choice the same way again? Doubtful. A decline would not be noticed for years by the way. <BR/><BR/>3. The first things most people think when they hear "Duke" is this lacrosse case/the 88 alumni/ Nifong/ and the lack of support in Durham for these 3 guys. <BR/>Hopefully, for everyone's sake, this will fade with time.<BR/><BR/>4. In my view, most people do not hate Duke University. A few college basketball nuts hate a subsection of the players (in fact, Grant Hill was interviewed about this not too long ago).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47721751406989046042007-04-29T21:23:00.000-04:002007-04-29T21:23:00.000-04:00I admit this has nothing to do with the post; but ...I admit this has nothing to do with the post; but in case anyone reading this blog doesn't know yet ... The Duke Men's Lacrosse team won the ACC title today! <BR/>I believe they go on to compete for the National title in a couple weeks with the schedule for the National championship TBA next week.<BR/>I was a bit disappointed Fox Sports Net picked up televising the ACC championship game today (I think relatively at the last minute. I'm pretty sure it was originally going to be on ACC select webcast.) I really hate it when one of the cable sports channels (that I don't get) pick up a game because no webcast. I guess it shows though that there's realatively more interest in these games.<BR/>In either case, I'm really happy for the guys! :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58959565490732929022007-04-29T21:22:00.000-04:002007-04-29T21:22:00.000-04:00"What is there to gain by prosecuting Crystal Mang..."What is there to gain by prosecuting Crystal Mangum?"<BR/><BR/>It's the only way to stop her.<BR/><BR/>Crystal did not stop herself in her teens from lying about rape. She did not stop herself on March 14, 2006 from lying about rape. She did not stop herself in the countless interviews with the nurse, doctor and police from lying about rape. She did not stop herself in front of the Special Prosecutors from lying about rape. In fact, she told the SP's she would lie some more on the witness stand.<BR/><BR/>And she will keep lying. Which means it's only a matter of time before she finds another victim to destroy with her lies. Crystal will never stop herself. She has to be stopped.<BR/><BR/>There is only one to do that. Prosecute her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58933899030594787652007-04-29T20:00:00.000-04:002007-04-29T20:00:00.000-04:00Does Medicaid cover such costs?Medicare doesn't - ...Does Medicaid cover such costs?<BR/>Medicare doesn't - unless perhaps<BR/>she's on disability (SSI?)<BR/>I don't know the details<BR/>with regard to the programs I'm<BR/>mentioning, but I THINK that<BR/>Medicaid has some limited<BR/>ability to pay for meds.<BR/>Then again, there's a thriving<BR/>underground market - ('Ludes<BR/>are a good example of the <BR/>manufacturer making more of<BR/>the stuff than is legally<BR/>prescribed, so it's said.)<BR/><BR/>Don't assume that she has<BR/>one doctor - or any doctor.<BR/>The AG's report would seem<BR/>to indicate that she has a<BR/>doctor, unless they're basing<BR/>their report on what she states<BR/>she's taking.<BR/><BR/>Another possibility is samples:<BR/>docs give stuff out all the time -<BR/>but usually not the types of med<BR/>that is controlled. Are these<BR/>controlled substances?<BR/><BR/>As far as Lithium goes: it can do<BR/>a lot of harm to the thyroid<BR/>gland, which is why blood testing<BR/>is required, so that the patient<BR/>isn't poisoned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52361755724874445212007-04-29T19:51:00.000-04:002007-04-29T19:51:00.000-04:00I am not a lawyer but I think "john bruce" is righ...I am not a lawyer but I think "john bruce" is right in his Apr 29, 2007 10:10:00 AM post: The almost total silence by most of the worst offenders in the hoax caper is due to the strong possibility that they may be indicted or sued. <BR/><BR/>Meaning that all or most of the worst characters in the hoax will probably never apologize, or will only do so in the future if they think it will somehow help them legally. (Would be nice to hear a sincere apology from these characters, but I know a sincere apology isn't going to be forthcoming from most of them even if they knew there would never be any legal action against them.)<BR/><BR/>One exception: Mr. Nifong did issue an apology, but he worded it to try to head-off future legal action against him. Sincerity? Hah! <BR/><BR/>G in TexasAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84774045852631893822007-04-29T19:14:00.000-04:002007-04-29T19:14:00.000-04:00Sorry, Jen. "Permissible" means in this context "t...Sorry, Jen. "Permissible" means in this context "the least he could get away with under the circumstances."<BR/><BR/>Once the NC State AG stepped into the spotlight, he faced a political problem on prime time: how to terminate a wrongfully brought case involving out-of-state accused students, address the Nifong problem and not aleniate the local and national Democratic class/race/gender/victim believer voter base. You and others are apparently so euphoric he pronounced the boys innocent (an interesting quasi-legal declaration) you cannot see anything else, and the else is his actions were nicely judged to accomplish what they did - tamp down the mounting flames with a minimum of further Party damage. In the process he sacrificed Nifong, a minor loss, and did nothing but restore a condition (the accused' innocence) that never should have been threatened. <BR/><BR/>The AG <I>could</I> have come down like a ton of bricks on many other participants, or at the very least alluded to them. So far he has not, and likely will not. And of course he painted Magnum as a helpless, innocent victim - the standard Party line. Some here see admirable focus. I see business as usual - too little, too late, too limited by partisan political interests..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-32781879076302271092007-04-29T19:08:00.000-04:002007-04-29T19:08:00.000-04:005:56 None of these drugs have to be tracked like L...5:56 None of these drugs have to be tracked like Lithium. If she is still working at the old job, she has the money - maybe she gets it for free from UNC. Although, I think she is buying most of this on the stree. She is obviously not going to the Methadon clinic as pts go daily for their dose that day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-26651207747067877552007-04-29T18:53:00.000-04:002007-04-29T18:53:00.000-04:00What is there to gain by prosecuting Crystal Mangu...What is there to gain by prosecuting Crystal Mangum?<BR/><BR/>SeriouslyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15403498522637590322007-04-29T17:56:00.000-04:002007-04-29T17:56:00.000-04:00Excuse me, people - this is off topic - but where ...Excuse me, people - this is off topic - but where is Crystal getting money to pay for her drugs? I'm not talking just the costs of the drugs themselves - Ambien, methadone, Paxil and amitriptyline - but also the costs associated with them.<BR/><BR/>Speaking from personal experience, many years ago (for a short period of time), I took Lithium - the most common and cheapest anti-depressant then on the market. The experience was an eye-opener in terms of the massive costs of treating even mild depression. To begin with, simply getting the drug requires at least two doctor visits - a psychologist ($100 a visit) who evaluates your emotional need for the drug, and a doctor ($100 a visit) who prescribes it (psychologists are not doctors and therefore can not write prescriptions). Only then can you actually purchase the Lithium ($200 a prescription - and always only for one month). But that's only the beginning of the cost. <BR/><BR/>ALL anti-depressants require simultaneous psychological and medical treatment the entire time you take the drug. You don't do the follow-up, you don't get the drug. Therefore, the moment I swallowed the first Lithium, I entered into a ritual of weekly treks to my therapist ($100 an hour), plus monthly blood tests at the hospitals ($100 a visit, plus $200 for lab tests) to measure the level of Lithium in my system, then a monthly trek to the doctor ($100 a visit) to study the lab results. All in all, just for one month, I incurred a minimum of $1100. For one drug. <BR/><BR/>Crystal is taking FOUR - ambien, methadone, Paxil and amitriptyline. At the minimum, we are talking at least $3000 a month. And remember, my costs came from two decades ago which means the current price must be at least half again as much. Plus, Paxil and amitriptyline are each incredibly more expensive than Lithium. So I ask you? Where's Crystal getting the money to pay for all this?<BR/><BR/>She has no job, no medical insurance, she's not living at home, she's not married or living with someone who can pick up the tab, etc. She hasn't done interviews to be paid for - and, praise the lord, her blackmail of the families of Collin, Reade and Dave has failed. So - where's she getting the money?<BR/><BR/>And damn, I'm not even talking her car, her house and her three kids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-65506202494098536232007-04-29T17:21:00.000-04:002007-04-29T17:21:00.000-04:00I love the Duke haters on here saying Duke will de...I love the Duke haters on here saying Duke will decline in status and the poor parent of some kid who could never get into Duke if their life depended on it saying, "Why would anyone send their kid to Duke?" Duke is so much more than this case, so much more than Brodhead or lacrosse or any of these things that will all go away with the passage of time. Duke continues to get great athletes, continues to send kids to great graduate schools, Duke students continue to do loads of volunteer work in Durham and high school seniors continue to apply there in the thousands. Sorry, no decline for Duke because of this silliness, in spite of the haters fervent hopes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3605301816233057062007-04-29T16:41:00.000-04:002007-04-29T16:41:00.000-04:00Mangum may be ill - or not.IF her behavior is a re...Mangum may be ill - or not.<BR/>IF her behavior is a result<BR/>of the many medications she's<BR/>taken (as is well-documented)<BR/>then mental illness isn't<BR/>the question, any more than<BR/>drunk driving is an excuse<BR/>for running over pedestrians.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18852463364772202822007-04-29T16:36:00.000-04:002007-04-29T16:36:00.000-04:00TO 3:28PM--Further solidifying my opinion about Ma...TO 3:28PM--<BR/><BR/>Further solidifying my opinion about Mangum from what we all have gleaned over the past year were the comments of Joe Cheshire when he, Wade Smith, and Jim Cooney did a segment on "Larry King Live" the evening after all charges were dropped.<BR/><BR/>Larry King asked many of the typical softball questions. Then he asked a very provocative one. Smith and Cooney demured, but Cheshire spoke with fervor about Mangum in a way that I hadn't heard previously.<BR/><BR/>When asked why they thought anyone would do something like this.....invent a story and refuse to back down.....keeping it alive with tales that would divide communities across the country, Cheshire answered.....<BR/><BR/>"Larry, she has a meanness about her. She is a very nasty person."<BR/><BR/>Keep in mind: Cheshire has seen all her records which are sealed from public scrutiny. IMO, he's seen evidence which perhaps reveals that character accounts for her behavior rather than mental illness.<BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-88381975925592989392007-04-29T15:30:00.000-04:002007-04-29T15:30:00.000-04:00Devorah - No one is asking you to put your life on...Devorah - No one is asking you to put your life on hold - just contribute to the conversation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50939051471546038462007-04-29T15:28:00.000-04:002007-04-29T15:28:00.000-04:00I do live in a white bread world today, but lived ...I do live in a white bread world today, but lived for thirty years in the heart of Washington,DC. So what,!!! Does that validate or invalidate the UNC Doc's diagnosis?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87656530765766996922007-04-29T14:43:00.000-04:002007-04-29T14:43:00.000-04:00TO 2:14PM--So effing what? Am I supposed to put l...TO 2:14PM--<BR/><BR/>So effing what? Am I supposed to put life on hold on the word of a doctor? Please!<BR/><BR/>The woods are full of "words from doctors".<BR/><BR/>You obviously live in white-bread-milquetoast-America. The behavior of Mangum is not all that different from much of certain segments of society and in certain boroughs near and far.....hither and thither.<BR/><BR/>The mindset of Mangum is pretty much business as usual for many. Have you not kept up with her followers and what they continue to say and write about this case?<BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53246841604437775062007-04-29T14:14:00.000-04:002007-04-29T14:14:00.000-04:00Well, a Doctor at UNC disagrees with your assessme...Well, a Doctor at UNC disagrees with your assessment that Crystal is not mentally ill. Everything about this woman cries "Mentally ill," I doubt that the Doctor wil take either your diagnosis or Nurses Peggy Perfect into account.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53669110453992466582007-04-29T13:52:00.000-04:002007-04-29T13:52:00.000-04:00Such a gorgeous and luscious Sunday-almost-end-of-...Such a gorgeous and luscious Sunday-almost-end-of-April-day!<BR/><BR/>All decent people are rightfully thrilled because this spring three innocent men no longer must bear the burden of false charges from a woman who should be in jail right now.<BR/><BR/>I must totally agree with columnist and commentator Dennis Prager that Crystal Mangum should be prosecuted for true justice to be realized.<BR/><BR/>Does anyone notice just how "robot-i-cized" and how willing we are to think it's ok for someone like Mangum to just move on down the road as if she has done nothing?<BR/><BR/>Look at the news coverage. No one is making a big deal about the horrific damage she did......and that she was still pushing Roy Cooper to continue the hoax up until the present. Only he put the brakes on.<BR/><BR/>Mangum is NOT mentally ill. She's just a typical Durham bum who thinks she can bleed the system at will. Those who follow such a person--and we all know who and how vast their numbers still are--obviously agree with her way of life.<BR/><BR/>The minimizing of this destructiveness along with minimizing the violent words written in a school newspaper by one Solomon Burnette are examples of the black community's value system: almost never being held accountable when they do damage to someone who is not black. <BR/><BR/>Quite the opposite. There seems to be satisfaction. <BR/><BR/>Can any normal person believe that the NCCU school paper still has the Burnette column posted?<BR/><BR/>Guess what would happen if a non-mostly-black school printed such a column in their paper. <BR/><BR/>Burnette is an ex-convict who was put into prison for robbing and assaulting Duke students. In his ignorant and violent diatribe he seems to have special hatred for Duke students because he victimized them and got caught.<BR/><BR/>Notice how the local newspapers are all too anxious to stop covering the Duke hoax, especially on the editorial pages.<BR/><BR/>They want their personal prejudices swept under the rug.....and no editorial staff played into stereotypes more than the News & Observer's editorial staff did when this case broke.<BR/><BR/>Thank heavens for Joe Neff's reporting.<BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33624819096806704152007-04-29T13:08:00.000-04:002007-04-29T13:08:00.000-04:00I don't know how smart the normal DA is these days...I don't know how smart the normal DA is these days,but if this whole deal has not caught their attention to keep it clean and legal, I would be surprised. Knowing that a spotlight could at anytime be shown on your activities,secrets and credentials is a powerful tool to keep persecution from out of your metanarrative. KC thanks for the word and sorry if I spelled it incorrectly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33381438778330480822007-04-29T12:45:00.000-04:002007-04-29T12:45:00.000-04:0011:50You wrote something profound re Ashley's "we'...11:50<BR/><BR/>You wrote something profound re Ashley's "we're a newspaper, and you're not."<BR/><BR/>Conceptually speaking the difference between a blog and the editorial content of a newspaper is censorship: newspapers don't want to offend their advertisers.<BR/><BR/>Johnson is the only censor here, and I've found him unburdensome in the main.<BR/><BR/>PolanskiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12274271376975435962007-04-29T12:38:00.000-04:002007-04-29T12:38:00.000-04:00Jamilre BrodheadThis is the probable Duke scenario...Jamil<BR/><BR/>re Brodhead<BR/><BR/>This is the probable Duke scenario:<BR/><BR/>Administration knows that Duke will be named a respondent in the lawsuit, along with other sundry scumbags employed by Duke. Duke attorneys will advise Duke not to fire Brodhead until litigation is resolved. Once resolved, Duke alumni will ask for his head, and get it.<BR/><BR/>PolanskiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24776324014731361952007-04-29T12:31:00.000-04:002007-04-29T12:31:00.000-04:00Brodhead is finishedBS. He is fully supported by a...<I>Brodhead is finished</I><BR/><BR/>BS. He is fully supported by academia and if he leave, his new post will be President of Princeton or Yale. He is now even more famous and admired among the far left wing academia which consists 85% of faculty in this country.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73992294797822743372007-04-29T11:50:00.000-04:002007-04-29T11:50:00.000-04:00RE: The H-S's fallacious "scoop" on the Finnerty a...RE: The H-S's fallacious "scoop" on the Finnerty alibi.<BR/><BR/>Ashley and Paxton have utterly no understanding or appreciation for the internet. During a WUNC interview in early 2005, Ashley confessed he'd never heard of the term "blog." (I'm sure he's familiar enough now). It doesn't matter to them the DIW had it first. "We're a newspaper and you're not," goes their archaic logic.<BR/><BR/>Paxtopn is operating the paper as a stripped-down, small-town, chicken-dinner, hayseed publication, a formula that simply won't work in Durham, a town that for all its problems is far better-educated and wealthier than Paxton's other markets like Jonesboro, Ark., or Owensboro, Ky.<BR/><BR/>They don't care about journalism. All that matters is not angering its black readers and thus further eroding its circulation.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of which: the national circulation report is supposed to be issued tomorrow. It will be interesting to see how the HS fared over the past year.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com