tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post4552615871482941343..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Questions and Answerskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-86322185015038234422006-12-22T13:34:00.000-05:002006-12-22T13:34:00.000-05:00what are the sexual offense charges?
hiring 2 dir...what are the sexual offense charges?<br /><br />hiring 2 dirt-ugly felons to dance for you, I guessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-81576331793395249052006-12-22T12:41:00.000-05:002006-12-22T12:41:00.000-05:00NO CONFIRMATIOIN FROM LIEFONG, BUT DEFENSE SAYS RA...NO CONFIRMATIOIN FROM LIEFONG, BUT DEFENSE SAYS RAPE CHARGES DROPPED, BUT KIDNAPPING AND ASSULT CHARGES STAND.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-56362032162630206232006-12-22T12:39:00.000-05:002006-12-22T12:39:00.000-05:00RPE CHARGES DROPPED!!!!!!!RPE CHARGES DROPPED!!!!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82881653842204144932006-12-22T12:38:00.000-05:002006-12-22T12:38:00.000-05:00when's our special predator, crystal gail mangum, ...when's our special predator, crystal gail mangum, gonna be charged, mikey boy?<br /><br />jcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-71350517848094158312006-12-22T12:36:00.001-05:002006-12-22T12:36:00.001-05:00Correction: Nifong dropped rape charges only acco...Correction: Nifong dropped rape charges only according to Fox.<br /><br />ObserverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-70075321096348448922006-12-22T12:36:00.000-05:002006-12-22T12:36:00.000-05:00not all charges--kidnapping and sexual offense rem...not all charges--kidnapping and sexual offense remain in placeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-39370952529336983932006-12-22T12:30:00.000-05:002006-12-22T12:30:00.000-05:00Reporting now on radio NIFONG DROPPED CHARGES!!!!!...Reporting now on radio NIFONG DROPPED CHARGES!!!!!!!!!<br /><br />ObserverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-89020174658060238032006-12-22T12:20:00.000-05:002006-12-22T12:20:00.000-05:00From Free Republic:
To: All
http://www.wral.com/...From Free Republic:<br /><br />To: All<br /><br />http://www.wral.com/<br />Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong moved Friday to drop rape charges against three Duke University lacrosse players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82480794918191479872006-12-22T12:13:00.000-05:002006-12-22T12:13:00.000-05:00anyone read that PC post re duke trying to get its...anyone read that PC post re duke trying to get its reputation back<br /><br />author tried to couch the problem in white privilege, when we all know the problem is duke's racist blacks, durham's racist blacks, and a weak leader who goes on a roadshow instead of confronting the thugsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78164772836542857112006-12-22T12:03:00.000-05:002006-12-22T12:03:00.000-05:0011:54
i'm glad someone's asking an interesting qu...11:54<br /><br />i'm glad someone's asking an interesting question, ie, how do we punish duke's academic underclassAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-23769409060953386672006-12-22T11:54:00.001-05:002006-12-22T11:54:00.001-05:00RE: Vigilante Poster
Somewhere I remember reading...RE: Vigilante Poster<br /><br />Somewhere I remember reading that either the FBI or the NSA had reached an agreement with Printer Manufacturers to insert some type of microprinting technology to allow them to track the source of any printed document. This might have been post 9/11 but I can't be sure. Does anyone recall this? <br /><br />Are there original copies of those posters in possession of the defense and have they been examined in an attempt to identify the orignator of the document?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59712598726778115252006-12-22T11:54:00.000-05:002006-12-22T11:54:00.000-05:00JC, did you write that? You naughty boy.JC, did you write that? You naughty boy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20241151212049239452006-12-22T11:52:00.000-05:002006-12-22T11:52:00.000-05:00To Duke09:
I'll break the suspense for you. The...To Duke09:<br /> I'll break the suspense for you. The Motion to suppress identification will be granted. As I said in another post, the only interesting question is what possible arguments can Nifong offer in opposition to it. <br /> Honestly, I don't think it requires a courageous ruling by a judge to put an end to this monstrosity. It requires a judge with an ounce of integrity. If I am wrong on this, then North Carolina's judicial system is broken beyond repair.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58541386869951471552006-12-22T11:49:00.000-05:002006-12-22T11:49:00.000-05:00Hey, evahbody, it be Preshous!
I gusses youall wo...Hey, evahbody, it be Preshous!<br /><br />I gusses youall wonarin why there be seaman up my ass--it be hyganik--i had de himiroids<br /><br />nothin like honkie seaman for de himiroids<br /><br />thank you collin, reade, and davey boy--I'ma feel gooooddddddddddd<br /><br />da Haley Burry will be me in movey<br /><br />god bles the honkies, and god bless americaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35616184782845203252006-12-22T11:36:00.000-05:002006-12-22T11:36:00.000-05:00The inaction by various offices and the people who...The inaction by various offices and the people who hold them in this matter is astounding. I have racked my brain trying to figure out why. The only answer I have come up with is a term from Sociology called "dissolution of responsiblity". <br />An example of the term is illustrated by a man who is struck by a car and lies injured on the side of the road. The car that struck him leaves the scene. <br />If the man was struck on a remote, country road, the next driver on the scene is much more likely to help the man than would be numerous drivers who would pass him were he struck on a busy urban street. The responsiblity of the urban drivers is "dissolved".<br />In the Duke case, there are so many people who could and should step up and do something about what is happening that not one of them has.<br />They all appear to be waiting for another one of their group to make a move. They all seem to believe the next driver will surely stop and help the injured man.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58968854100668386332006-12-22T10:53:00.000-05:002006-12-22T10:53:00.000-05:00I still hope and expect that CGM will not show for...I still hope and expect that CGM will not show for the 2/5 hearing and Smith will then have go grant the motion to supress. The subsequent (or pending if the defense files one in January) motion to dismiss will then have to be granted. <br /><br />If CGM shows up (her potential movie or book deal may depend on her continuing with this farce), the safe ruling for Smith will be that the ID's are admissable and their credibility will be for the jury. Smith can figure that iftthe evidence at trial is still so weak, he can dismiss at the end of the state's case. <br /><br />Nifong has to go forward to trial if he can. He'll hope for a hung jury but even in the face of a dismissal or defense verdict he can tell his admirers he went to the mat for a poor, black, mother of 2 honor student, in spite of all the pressure put on him by the rich, powerful (white) Dukies and national press to drop the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47485913898474623682006-12-22T10:51:00.001-05:002006-12-22T10:51:00.001-05:00A couple of points:
First, I do not apologize for...A couple of points:<br /><br />First, I do not apologize for speaking of Nifong's private life. What he did goes to the core of his character, and ultimately we see that his dishonesty has created a huge amount of trouble for many people. He is thoroughly dishonest, and I don't apologize for saying it. I look at his adultery in the larger context.<br /><br />Second, Michael Gaynor has a good post today on Liestoppers about Houston Baker.<br /><br />http://www.webcommentary.com/<br />asp/ShowArticle.asp?<br />id=gaynorm&date=061222<br /><br />Some time ago, a Duke faculty member told me that Baker always wanted to be head of the English Department at Duke, but he had been accused of sexual harassment by a female graduate student. The faculty looked into the charges and found them credible. While Baker was not sanctioned by the university for what he did, his actions ultimately cost him the chance at being department chair.<br /><br />One might call this an issue of Baker's "private life," but this man is dishonest and predatory, and if he is going to enter the debate as he has done, then his life is fair game. I would urge you to read Gaynor's piece to get a sense of just how evil Baker is. Even now, he says that Reade, Dave, and Collin deserve no defense. The man is evil, period.<br /><br />As I said before, I am a Tennessee graduate and, therefore, am honor bound to despise Vanderbilt. The very public hiring of Baker gives me even more reasons to have two favorite teams: Tennessee, and whoever plays Vandy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-90113842416938521762006-12-22T10:51:00.000-05:002006-12-22T10:51:00.000-05:00I was remembering correctly...
http://www.newsobs...I was remembering correctly...<br /><br />http://www.newsobserver.com/1185/story/524272.html<br /><br />"In May, lawyers for Seligmann filed a motion seeking to have Nifong removed from the case. The request appears to have largely been dropped for now. Kennedy said the defense would likely want to keep Nifong on the case.<br /><br />State law also allows a prosecutor to be removed under particular circumstances, including willful misconduct in office or conduct prejudicial to the administration of justice which brings the office into disrepute. The process begins when someone files a sworn statement in the prosecutor's county charging him or her with a violation. The senior resident Superior Court judge in that county, or a judge he or she selects, must review the complaint and decide whether it will go forward. If the charge proceeds, the judge convenes a public hearing on the complaint. That judge has the power to remove the district attorney."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-75649596961796900842006-12-22T10:44:00.000-05:002006-12-22T10:44:00.000-05:00Bottom line is in order to get the indictment Hima...Bottom line is in order to get the indictment Himan and Gottleib lied to the grand jury, most likely coached by Nifong. The Grand Jury should be questioned as to what they were told by Himan and Gottlieb. And Himan and Gottlieb should be grilled under intense scrutiny as to what they said. They obviously lied, to what extent we won't know until the grand jury is questioned. All the secrecy without taping or recording the Grand Jury is ridiculous and just assists in prosecutorial misconduct. To get to the truth the grand jury must be questioned. They played a role in this travesty and should speak up. No more lies and hiding of evidence it is time to come clean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28932234290180413662006-12-22T10:42:00.001-05:002006-12-22T10:42:00.001-05:00So now there playing be a whole new set of made up...So now there playing be a whole new set of made up rules.<br /><br />Will there never be an end to how far Durham "Justice System" LOL wil go these days.<br /><br />To me judge Smith is just as bad or worse than the first two. He reminds me of judge Ito in the OJ case who just wanted his face out there. Well he is getting it right along side Nifong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-8292353350054276762006-12-22T10:42:00.000-05:002006-12-22T10:42:00.000-05:00Here's a flashback (May 5, 2006) to a Rita Cosby (...Here's a flashback (May 5, 2006) to a Rita Cosby (barf) show...<br /><br />"NIFONG: The defense attorneys would probably prefer to try the case against somebody who is less experienced than I am or against somebody who is less committed to the case than I am. And you can certainly understand that. I mean, if I were one of those attorneys, I wouldn‘t really want to try a case against me, either."<br /><br />http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12644614/<br /><br />I'm recalling that this was said in response to a defense motion asking for Nifong to be removed from the case. I don't know if that motion has ever been ruled upon. Read the rest of Nifong's comments and put it in context with what we know now. Disgusting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-86934171183117473932006-12-22T10:41:00.000-05:002006-12-22T10:41:00.000-05:00to Bill at 1024
I respect your opinion and you hav...to Bill at 1024<br />I respect your opinion and you have had many great insights into this travesty of justice by Nifong and his cohort. However, let us stay away from Nifong's private life and stay focused on the legal case at hand and its ramnifications. Many, many individuals have had indescretions in their private lives. I don't think any of us want to be judged by sins in our private lives. We are all sinners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41605765335279179272006-12-22T10:31:00.000-05:002006-12-22T10:31:00.000-05:00VIM-
I think I remember that the case management ...VIM-<br /><br />I think I remember that the case management system and that "setting" nonsense went out the window when this case was declared "special" and assigned to a single judge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83627366041408805072006-12-22T10:24:00.000-05:002006-12-22T10:24:00.000-05:00There is another problem on the horizon, something...There is another problem on the horizon, something that some posters have mentioned. A man like Nifong is not honest one day and then turns into a liar the next. As F. Scott Fitzgerald wrote, "Character is fate."<br /><br />Remember, Nifong met his current wife by cheating on his first wife. This was a "courthouse romance," and he had an affair, which means he broke his marriage vows in a very public way. <br /><br />As more comes out about the man's dishonesty, what is going to stop attorneys for people convicted under Nifong's direction from re-opening the cases? If we have a corrupt and dishonest DA, what does that mean to the cases his office has investigated and prosecuted? What does it say about the Durham police, specifically Gottlieb and Himan?<br /><br />In other words, there are a number of real problems that Durham County and Durham City are likely to be facing, and they won't go away. When Nifong told the cheering crowd at NCCU that "my presence here means this case is not going away," I think that no one at the time realized just how far-reaching that statement would be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-37168081065094997752006-12-22T10:02:00.000-05:002006-12-22T10:02:00.000-05:00to 936 regarding question for KC
from: a non-lawy...to 936 regarding question for KC<br />from: a non-lawyer<br />Note that in the N&O story by Niolet today where it stated: "Kennedy said the defense would likely want to keep Nifong on the case." Remember Kennedy recently asked for Nifong to step aside. To me the interesting question is why would the defense want to keep Nifong on the case? I speculated about this on my 936 post.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com