tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post5009206203534990594..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: The Roberts Bombshellskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-66320094851766866262006-10-15T09:35:00.000-04:002006-10-15T09:35:00.000-04:00TO anonymous 12:30 AM
In a blog, unlike most aca...TO anonymous 12:30 AM <br /><br />In a blog, unlike most academic journals, the readers are the reviewers. Most of KC's posts have been well reasoned and supported by facts. I don't know his motivation or yours for that matter. Why do you keep hounding him about that mistake? It was a mistake -- he removed it -- so what? Perhaps his motivation for spending time reading about and discussing this case are like many of us. We see a gross injustice by the DA and particularly with the mainstream media coverage. KC has provided an alternative to the overtly biased media coverage and in my estimation helped shape it in some ways.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58599582386937673912006-10-15T00:36:00.000-04:002006-10-15T00:36:00.000-04:00Correction. The "Forgetting" post is still availa...Correction. The "Forgetting" post is still available. However, neither KC nor his KCoolade drinkers have bothered to offer responses or retractions (much less apologies) for their obviously false accusations. KC, he reports, you bleat.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6434545035763702732006-10-15T00:30:00.000-04:002006-10-15T00:30:00.000-04:00Why has KC deleted his "Laughter and Forgetting in...Why has KC deleted his "Laughter and Forgetting in Durham" post? Does this make me a troll because I point out that KC was wrong about the alleged attempt to remove all records of the three accused lacrosse players? KC's overt bias makes his commentaries unreliable and that post was an example. No wonder he is trying to "forget" it. KC is a propagandist plan and simple. Drink the KCoolade if you want. Given the evidence, it is hard to imagine that the players are guilty. Too bad bloggers like KC have to use this tragedy to advance their own agendas. What is your agenda KC?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-86702443771463152222006-10-14T13:07:00.000-04:002006-10-14T13:07:00.000-04:00Please do not forget to contribute to the "defense...Please do not forget to contribute to the "defense fund." The link below will take you to a website which has all the information you need to donate.<br /><br /><a href=http://friendsofdukeuniversity.blogspot.com/2006/02/duke-lacrosse-defense-fund.html> Defense Fund </a><br /><br />or,<br /><br />http://friendsofdukeuniversity.blogspot.com/2006/02/duke-lacrosse-defense-fund.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47277596218765405762006-10-14T11:04:00.000-04:002006-10-14T11:04:00.000-04:00KC, et al:
In case you are curious - this is the ...KC, et al:<br /><br />In case you are curious - this is the response I got to my recent email to the Charlotte Observer re: their lack of in-depth coverage of this case. Gotta love revisionism...<br /><br />"Q. Hi. I am an avid reader of charlotte.com and am an original Charlottean, so I know the importance of great reporting. That said, I am extremely interested in knowing why the Observer has not written more or published more regarding the Duke Lacrosse case? With the upcoming 60 Minutes expose - with the details coming out today that the second stripper will directly contradict the alleged victim's account - I would hope that you and the paper would do your best to report on this story. It is of utmost importance to many people in this region, especially with the grevious abuses of civil liberties and the absurd ethical and procedural actions of North Carolina elected officials and law enforcement officers. Please, please, get this paper back into this story. I am tired of reading blogs to get my news. <br />Ken , Charlotte, NC 10/12/06<br /><br />A. A check of our archives indicates we have run six stories on the Duke case since September 1. In the course of the investigation, we've run dozens of stories. We know that many of our readers are very interested in the case, and so we will continue to publish new developments. The 60 Minutes piece you refer to is said to be airing Sunday night, though the program has revealed parts of the story through its web site. As I update this answer, Charlotte.com has posted a story on the 60 Minutes report. <br />Rick Thames 10/13/06"<br /><br /><br />link: http://www.charlotte.com/mld/charlotte/news/qa_forum.html?forumId=2147Daddyx4https://www.blogger.com/profile/17394221481565818109noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-27993066008650256692006-10-13T23:16:00.000-04:002006-10-13T23:16:00.000-04:00The evidence of prosecutorial abuse in this case i...The evidence of prosecutorial abuse in this case is so great that it raises the question: Isn't there a way to stop this? Do we really have to stand by and watch Nifong and his enablers, a corrupt Durham city government and police force continue to falsely accuse the players and run up their legal bills? How could we get the feds involved? It's obvious that the North Carolina governor, who appointed Nifong, won't speak out on the injustice.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83071087040340880992006-10-13T17:38:00.000-04:002006-10-13T17:38:00.000-04:00You really hit the nail on the head with this one....You really hit the nail on the head with this one. How could they go forward without asking Roberts about the accuser's statements? They really seem to be operating on the "ignorance is bliss" theory of prosecution. The less they know, the better. Probably because they know the entire case is BS. Therefore, they did little to no "investigating".<br /><br />I'm glad the ACLU invited you to speak. I'm a member of the ACLU and I've been very disappointed by their silence in this case. I've never known them to be so quiet when people's civil liberties are being violated left and right. If they're really concerned with EVERYONE'S civil rights they should speak up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-54444544720941529412006-10-13T16:33:00.000-04:002006-10-13T16:33:00.000-04:00The 103 poster has had issues with KC 's comment d...The 103 poster has had issues with KC 's comment deletion policy which does not have anything to do with contrary views but does affect trolls. <br /><br />KC,<br />I hope that you enjoy your time in the raleigh durham area. If I wasn't on my extended weekend break I would come out...hopefully they have promoted this a bit. Perhaps not too much though; hecklers can be annoying.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82490533421965165932006-10-13T16:27:00.000-04:002006-10-13T16:27:00.000-04:00Yes, Filan's pieces are odd. Her new one on msnbc ...Yes, Filan's pieces are odd. Her new one on msnbc that the poster is referring to basically says that I was once a DA and that I would hand over everything (crucial evidence) because to not do so would be bad for me. Then she goes on to say that the 'work product rule' applies in this case without actually examining that - she admits that AV and Nifong talked (she doesn't mean to though given the implications) but says that they were only talking about trial preparation etc.<br /><br />That's amusing because if Filan could read (one would think she could) she would notice that Nifong has claimed that he has not spoken to her, at least not during the April meeting (she was too distressed). Instead Filan asserts that they did talk but it is still protected.<br /><br />The idea that a DA would want to disclose 'crucial' evidence just before and election is a joke - if that evidence makes his case collapse (further). Nifong has been horribly slow but has no other cases at the moment (of course he's an administrator but I doubt Nifong has too much trouble there).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-61633467930756363542006-10-13T14:50:00.000-04:002006-10-13T14:50:00.000-04:00Dr. Johnson, what time are you going to talk at th...Dr. Johnson, what time are you going to talk at the Duke Campus on October 26? Could you be specific about the time spot? Morning, afternoon, late afternoon??? <br /><br />Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33443103410854695802006-10-13T14:44:00.000-04:002006-10-13T14:44:00.000-04:00To the anonymous 1:03 poster I'd like to know wha...To the anonymous 1:03 poster I'd like to know what exactly you are refering to. I read this blog everyday. To the best of my knowledge Professor Johnson has never mislead any of his readers. Unlike like you, I won't hide behind an anonymous post. I know all three of these falsely accused men personally. <br /><br />To Colin, Reade, and Dave,<br /><br />You and your families are in my thoughts and prayers everyday! <br /><br />And to KC, thanks for getting the truth out there.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Anya J. FlanneryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-76599831505251817092006-10-13T13:13:00.000-04:002006-10-13T13:13:00.000-04:00KC, have the NBPP offered to provide you security ...KC, have the NBPP offered to provide you security while in Durham ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-85127310108419753472006-10-13T13:03:00.000-04:002006-10-13T13:03:00.000-04:00Wow, talk about "forgetting." KC, don't you find ...Wow, talk about "forgetting." KC, don't you find it ironic that you are trying to forget your accusation of forgetfulness? Why do you censor reminders of how you misled your KCoolade drinkers and are not taking responsibility for your mistakes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-13171816012339081142006-10-13T12:45:00.000-04:002006-10-13T12:45:00.000-04:00I've posted this before, but watch 60 Minutes. Ki...I've posted this before, but watch 60 Minutes. Kim Roberts is the "tease" from CBS (all puns intended). The real blockbuster is another interview which will confirm this was an attempt to extort money from the players' families.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15232457872743125082006-10-13T11:50:00.001-04:002006-10-13T11:50:00.001-04:00Susan Filan on MSNBC still continues to defend Nif...Susan Filan on MSNBC still continues to defend Nifong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47863294829214134762006-10-13T11:50:00.000-04:002006-10-13T11:50:00.000-04:00Susan Filan on MSNBC still continues to defend Nif...Susan Filan on MSNBC still continues to defend Nifong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35829294083395346752006-10-13T11:39:00.000-04:002006-10-13T11:39:00.000-04:00The last refuge of a scoundrel DA is "jury nullifi...The last refuge of a scoundrel DA is "jury nullification in reverse". In the Bronx, NY for several years, 70% of criminal defendants who went to trial were found NOT GUILTY. In the rest of the U.S., 95% of criminal defendants are found GUILTY. Jurors in the Bronx were surveyed; they refused to destroy their community by sending any more young blacks to prison. Nifong will proceed to trial, hoping to pick jurors who will suspend objectivity and rationality, and instead will view this case through a racial prism. We are not out of the woods yet.sweetmickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06515895703441809831noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-61363336938505700782006-10-13T08:59:00.000-04:002006-10-13T08:59:00.000-04:00I cannot believe that EVERYONE in the Durham PD is...I cannot believe that EVERYONE in the Durham PD is incompetent or believes in this case. Any evidence that individual police are quietly working to kill this case?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20447816817131424992006-10-13T08:24:00.000-04:002006-10-13T08:24:00.000-04:00One additional point about the incompetence (and w...One additional point about the incompetence (and worse) of the police and DA actions:<br /><br />If the accuser did tell the police (as the record indicates) that three people grabbed her and three other people grabbed Nikki and pulled them apart so that the "victim" could be pulled into the bathroom -- why haven't the police tried to identify and indict the other three guys, who surely were part of the crime?<br /><br />Why did Nifong publicly declare all the other players as not guilty once he got the three indictments if others at the party were said to have aided and abetted this horrible supposed crime?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-39688825291106335652006-10-13T07:48:00.000-04:002006-10-13T07:48:00.000-04:00KC, your posts just get better and better! Thank y...KC, your posts just get better and better! Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-26393878251742119562006-10-13T07:39:00.000-04:002006-10-13T07:39:00.000-04:00If we don't hear from you after the weekend, we'll...If we don't hear from you after the weekend, we'll assume that Gottlieb, Himan, et al., have you locked up in a Durham jail on some trumped-up charge. But don't worry, we'll organize a posse and come and break you out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31058398537416551052006-10-13T07:05:00.000-04:002006-10-13T07:05:00.000-04:00Every time I think this thing can get no worse -- ...Every time I think this thing can get no worse -- it gets worse. We have to keep in mind that the principals in this investigation -- Liefong, Gottlieb, Nieman, and others -- are experienced enough to know that their actions were NOT the actions one takes to "solve" a real crime. Instead, they are acting deliberately to fabricate a crime and then frame three innocent people, all for political ends.<br /><br />This case truly is sickening, but is the ultimate train wreck that occurs when truth takes a back seat. Duke's arts and sciences faculty (like other arts and sciences faculties across the country) long ago embraced "postmodernism" as the way to look at the world. This is the ultimate end of this awful philosophy.<br /><br />William L. AndersonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34860508008672048432006-10-13T05:46:00.000-04:002006-10-13T05:46:00.000-04:00Yes, and as you suggest, the circumstances demonst...Yes, and as you suggest, the circumstances demonstrate the moral bankruptcy of the pro-prosecution crowd.<br /><br />If they honestly believed that there was actually a rape, they would be furious at law enforcement for doing a shoddy investigation that would be very likely to let any real rapists run free. Instead, they cheer on Nifong et al. Because they know perfectly well that there was no rape.<br /><br />JMHO.<br /><br />LskinnerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51229781598246158142006-10-13T02:48:00.000-04:002006-10-13T02:48:00.000-04:00First, we want a video online of your ACLU@DUKE sp...First, we want a video online of your ACLU@DUKE speech, please!<br /><br />I consider this one of your best, but then they just seem to be better every time.<br /><br />Congratulations for having been recognized by so many in the MSM for your fine workAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-86146987102388655142006-10-13T01:45:00.000-04:002006-10-13T01:45:00.000-04:00What learnedhand said, bravo KC!
DPD conducted al...What learnedhand said, bravo KC!<br /><br />DPD conducted almost no investigation in this case, that is for sure. All eyes were turned away to any exculpatory evidence and basic police practices regarding interviews, follow-ups and documentation of activities were ignored.<br /><br />This whole case has always been based on an uncorroborated and monumentally unreliable accusation. There is no other credible evidence that a rape even occured, let alone that these three defendants are responsible.<br />The prosecutor's evidence in this case never came close to meeting the standard of probable cause. I would love to find out what Gottlieb and Himan presented to the Grand Jury to get the indictments, I am sure it closely tracts the warrant applications, but we will never know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com