tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post5422481943971265500..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Regarding Dr. Kimmelkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger31125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-30512544384562611392010-09-04T12:56:32.158-04:002010-09-04T12:56:32.158-04:00Just wanted to say that, as of today, over three m...Just wanted to say that, as of today, over three months from this post, Kimmel has still not updated his <i>HuffPo</i> article.<br /><br />Sorry you got lied to, Prof. Johnson, though I have to imagine that you're used to it by this point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-32179349634719410232010-05-24T16:36:59.009-04:002010-05-24T16:36:59.009-04:00KC- thank you for continuing to monitor articles t...KC- thank you for continuing to monitor articles that reference the DUKE LAX case. Even though it has been well reported that numerous persons in law enforcement were found to have acted criminally and negligently, references to any kind of illegal behavior continue, for the most part, to be made by the media towards these three "falsely accused" and "innocent" student athletes and LAX players. For some reason, the sport of LAX, which has about .005% (made up and possible exaggeration) as many cases of violent crimes attached to its players than from participants of the major sports, seems to get stereotyped as a sport with athletes prone to commit violent and sex based crimes. <br />This article is so false and unsupported by facts that it defies logic how an editor could allow this be published. With this type of reporting, it is no wonder that some people still think a sexual assault of some sort happened. I think Paul Newman’s character in the movie SLAPSHOT said it best, “Dicky Dunn wrote this so it must to be true”, despite knowing the obvious falseness of the reports but suggesting the reaction of the readers and which explains the public’s false conclusions. No less than a full retraction of the article with an admission of faulty reporting and an apology to Reade, Colin, Dave, Duke LAX and the entire sport of LAX is in order. <br />KC- you would be performing a valuable service by publishing another book documenting some of the articles since the declaration of “innocent “ was made that still suggest that these players are the criminals. The public needs to compare the accomplishments of the three accused athletes and the Duke LAX program to the law enforcement personnel, the prosecutor, the accuser and The Group of 88 since the declaration of innocent. “Until Proven Innocent” is not over there should be a Part II and likely a Part III before we can put an end to the story of what happened March 13, 2006. The injustice placed upon Reade, Collin and Dave is ongoing and needs to be curtailed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78016350360446429162010-05-24T13:17:05.122-04:002010-05-24T13:17:05.122-04:00Kimmel a communist? I thought he was a comedian.Kimmel a communist? I thought he was a comedian.Lenonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-809788828133868422010-05-24T05:05:59.956-04:002010-05-24T05:05:59.956-04:00Haven't checked this blog for months - so, whe...Haven't checked this blog for months - so, when I drop by, what do I find? Surprise, surprise: KC's spotted another academic trying to slip in a use of the outrageous Duke fraud to support his/her meal-ticket, that wonderful race/gender/privilege narrative that works to hard to explain everything. Honest to God, it's the quantum theory of the social sciences.<br /><br />KC gets on it, reminding said academic of the uncomfortable facts, and (here's the only shocker) it turms out that the academic taken to task is more "fact-sensitive" than most. After having first published his misrepresentations, which he must have known damned well were misrepresentations, he acknowledges those other nagging little details, the facts, by excising fom his article its most egregious lies - as though that fixes anything. The damage has already been done: the Duke story has been completely misrepresented one more time. Its lessons about rich white male power and poor black female victimization are still "true", and will remain so - in fact, will be come even truer as more time passes, and fewer recall the actual details. <br /><br />One can assign the victim-industry's reasoning all kinds of fancy labels, but it all boils down to the fact that even those who begrudgingly acknowledge its faudulence see the Duke "rape" case as the exception that proves the rule. Geez, many people thought it was true, worried it was true, in fact an appalling number -at least 88- clearly hoped it was true,so obviously it was true. <br /><br />The Duke lacrosse players have been rolled up in a narrative that they will not escape in their lifetimes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-91540914217677895452010-05-24T02:23:32.357-04:002010-05-24T02:23:32.357-04:00All I can say is "wow." The way the Kimm...All I can say is "wow." The way the Kimmel types try to hold so fast to their fantasies is almost unbelievable.Joeyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17439628067348828822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46032163253812240612010-05-23T18:38:48.146-04:002010-05-23T18:38:48.146-04:00Well call me a sexist neanderthal, but I think it&...Well call me a sexist neanderthal, but I think it's just a hoot that Kimmel's CV reveals that he got his undergraduate degree from Vassar! in 1972! (it became coed in 1969). He's likely a product of some perverse/reverse affirmative action process. I find that somehow very satisfying.<br /><br />RL alum (Duke)'75Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-61188938997216905842010-05-22T20:56:22.016-04:002010-05-22T20:56:22.016-04:00Is Kimmel a Communist?Is Kimmel a Communist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-89644375015311324002010-05-22T07:16:22.247-04:002010-05-22T07:16:22.247-04:00Thank you for challanging Kimmel KC. He has long ...Thank you for challanging Kimmel KC. He has long been a proponent of the "group88 think" non-sensical garbage. He has made a living off being anti-male and gyno-centric. He gets accolades for his misandry and continues on the same path regardless of the sort of honest and logical feedback that you have offered. He simply doesn't seem to be very bright. He is a danger to humanitarianism.Kilgorenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-54858152035775965122010-05-22T01:47:12.694-04:002010-05-22T01:47:12.694-04:00Thanks for the info about the comments, observer. ...Thanks for the info about the comments, observer. I don't go there anymore because every other blog post is about Octomom or something even less relevant. <br /><br />Perhaps Kimmel can put his two pages between two slightly thicker pages and pawn it off as a book. I'm sure the Duke University Press would be interested.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-91533918927615632622010-05-21T19:39:08.920-04:002010-05-21T19:39:08.920-04:00Well, Prof. Kimmel is taking a beating in his comm...Well, Prof. Kimmel is taking a beating in his comment section. Ouch.<br /><br />Sounds like his son will be an avid player of this sport he derides with such intellectual carelessness. <br /><br />And he's in Brooklyn...practically your neighbor, KC.<br /><br />ObserverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87857249476291864742010-05-21T12:53:06.897-04:002010-05-21T12:53:06.897-04:00What else can we expect from people like this? The...What else can we expect from people like this? They bring their fantasies into the classrooms, and when they are challenged, they fly into a "How DARE YOU" rage.<br /><br />Keep up the good work, K.C. You still are minding the store!!William L. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802990642236807359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-42489940039563473252010-05-21T12:24:19.860-04:002010-05-21T12:24:19.860-04:00And "Doctor" Kimmel is a university prof...And "Doctor" Kimmel is a university professor?! When will colleges and universities start requiring their professors in the Identity Studies departments / programs to **get it right**?<br /><br />I hope some widely-read publication prints a survey of the job prospects for graduates from the various college majors. I suspect Women's Studies, African-American Studies, and similar touchy-feely indoctrination majors would be right at the bottom. <br /><br />Gus W.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-38109875914758014752010-05-21T10:58:20.111-04:002010-05-21T10:58:20.111-04:00K.C. parsed this one just right--there were, indee...K.C. parsed this one just right--there were, indeed, some students at Duke, along with faculty, who thought the charges were plausible, but they were mostly people who didn't really know anyone on the lacrosse team. From fairly early on, their friends doubted the charges could be true, and once the individual defendants were named, their friends were certain. Not just the women's lax team (who were, indeed pilloried for their support of the men's team by assorted columnists) but many, many students in Edens (where both Reade Seligmann and Collin Finnerty lived) supported the team with banners hanging from the windows and home-made t-shirts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41536379634571046392010-05-21T10:36:08.206-04:002010-05-21T10:36:08.206-04:00And John Burness at a dinner in 12-2006 with 2 tru...And John Burness at a dinner in 12-2006 with 2 trustees referred to a former captain of the Duke women's team as a laxititute, who happened to be sitting at the next table, with a member of the men's team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80149571724390819462010-05-21T09:50:11.758-04:002010-05-21T09:50:11.758-04:00Are there no university or faculty senate-based di...Are there no university or faculty senate-based disciplinary bodies to which purveyors of such blatant errors and misguided, so-called academic publications can be held accountable? If university students are expected to abide by honesty in submitting their work, should not faculty be held to , at least, that same standard in their publications/work?<br /><br />I hope JC will point out these factual errors in fact via publishable communicque to Huffington and any other point of publication.Such outlets also have a responsibility to corroberate submissions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-88404472659571328972010-05-21T09:27:33.066-04:002010-05-21T09:27:33.066-04:00I would like to second RD’s point. In addition, o...I would like to second RD’s point. In addition, other students who knew Collin Finnerty and Reade Seligmann had exactly the opposite reaction to the one that Professor Kimmel described. Nader Baydoun and R. Stephanie Good’s “A Rush to Injustice” recounts Duke student Emma Stevenson and her friends discussing the rape case just prior to indictments (pp. 155-156). “They joked that Nifong would probably indict someone as unlikely as Collin Finnerty because Collin was one of the nicest guys on the team and one of the least likely to hurt anyone.” Reporting several months later, <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D07E2D9103FF936A25757C0A9619C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1" rel="nofollow">Peter Applebome</a><br /> wrote about the time immediately after the names of the first two indicted players were announced, “Nona Farahnik, who lived in the same dormitory as Mr. Finnerty and Mr. Seligmann, said, ‘When they said it was Reade and Collin, everyone knew it didn't happen.’”<br /><br />ChrisChris Halkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-10274328324247705472010-05-20T22:57:23.865-04:002010-05-20T22:57:23.865-04:00Nice job, Quasi!
Has anyone read the comments to...Nice job, Quasi! <br /><br />Has anyone read the comments to the article in the Huffington Post? I hope someone pointed out the fictions contained in Kimmel's article. I haven't been to that site in about 6 months because it has become a neon-ized Drudge Report, and it takes about 6 minutes to load on Big Blue because of all the ads and videos.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53536205881567508792010-05-20T22:44:55.217-04:002010-05-20T22:44:55.217-04:00I find the repetition of the privileged/entitled m...I find the repetition of the privileged/entitled meme to be the most striking aspect of these latest shots at the Lax team. They are often the sole criticism of in an article and at this point signal to me that the critic has nothing valid to say. The intent is to shame the Lax players but I doubt that outside of PC circles it hits home with too many people.<br /><br /> My assumption has always been that most parents would be thrilled to say their child was a Division I athlete at a prestigious school. It reflects well on the parents who have achieved enough in life to be able to afford the tuition and on the kids who have made the grade academically and athletically. <br /><br />Mangum had many laudatory articles and posts about her early on. She was praised for some dubious achievements like serving in the military (less than honorable discharge)or the mundane achievement of being a mother (3 illegitimate). At the heart of this praise is an attempt to elevate being a victim into a virtue. It's a misguided, harmful impulse. Being a victim sucks and often is the direct result of choices made by the victims themselves.wayne fonteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12082812958420391750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19856172002015139372010-05-20T19:18:18.173-04:002010-05-20T19:18:18.173-04:00Also, didn't the women's lax team get pill...Also, didn't the women's lax team get pilloried by members of the G88precisely because, as friends of the men's lax team they did not believe the allegations were plausible?<br /><br />-RDAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28000931782141649112010-05-20T19:07:57.942-04:002010-05-20T19:07:57.942-04:00“I don’t think it really will ever be over … when ...“I don’t think it really will ever be over … when I die, they’ll say ‘one of the three Duke lacrosse rape suspects died today. He led a life and did this but he was one of the three Duke lacrosse rape suspects.’”<br /><br><br />David Evans 4/2007 <br>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47869456056065601772010-05-20T19:03:18.686-04:002010-05-20T19:03:18.686-04:00Is Kimmel a Comunist?Is Kimmel a Comunist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58655193204466940572010-05-20T18:44:49.308-04:002010-05-20T18:44:49.308-04:00To the 6.33pm:
Not exactly: he simply eliminated ...To the 6.33pm:<br /><br />Not exactly: he simply eliminated the paragraph.<br /><br />If he made the factual changes, of course, he'd have an essay where one para. fundamentally contradicted his desired thesis.kcjohnson9https://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87728661361439956282010-05-20T18:33:54.682-04:002010-05-20T18:33:54.682-04:00Well, to Dr Kimmel's credit, he has made the f...Well, to Dr Kimmel's credit, he has made the factual changes that KC pointed out to him.Whatchoo talkin' 'bout, Sidney?noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62822125070560987122010-05-20T18:23:41.872-04:002010-05-20T18:23:41.872-04:00A question, if I may. Has Kimmel ever written abou...A question, if I may. Has Kimmel ever written about the criminal behavior of college and pro football and basketball players? This includes not a few sexual assaults.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-9501907711277283112010-05-20T17:19:09.752-04:002010-05-20T17:19:09.752-04:00Facts ? ?
We doan need no steenkin Facts.
Prof. ...Facts ? ?<br /><br />We doan need no steenkin Facts.<br /><br />Prof. Kimmel is guilty of Cannibalism. ... He uses a canned meme.<br /><br />How can you engage someone who lives in a world of "well, I think I must have heard it somewhere".a Nice NJ Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05776159775859690321noreply@blogger.com