tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post5814370606281543675..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: The N&O Speaks Out; Catotti & Curtiskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger88125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51765760425800898562007-09-06T19:32:00.000-04:002007-09-06T19:32:00.000-04:00To Bob Wilson--The Ashley H-S might continue on as...To Bob Wilson--<BR/><BR/>The Ashley H-S might continue on as it is for quite a while with their admittedly scaled down version of the news.<BR/><BR/>They now concentrate on inner Durham and that's fine if your quest is an insular take on news. Durham is its own little creepy world.<BR/><BR/>(BTW, I went over there in early 2005 and talked to Robert Childress, the former publisher, before he became ill. I just really was complaining about the huge staff changes.)<BR/><BR/>Like that did any good. I wanted to case the place. LIS!<BR/><BR/>He was far and above Ashley as a human being, but then again, how do we know what his role would have been if he hadn't had to leave?<BR/><BR/>As you know, the only interest in Durham for a long while has been the comedy factor, but I do miss going to some of the restaurants I used to enjoy. Maybe I'll hold my nose and go see Giorgio again. :>)<BR/><BR/>Lastly, I cannot tell you my shock and disappointment with Greg Childress in all this. I always really liked him and had no idea he would have behaved the way he did. Seems Ashley's way is <I>his</I> way.<BR/><BR/>Oh, well.......Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24673526623138469902007-09-06T16:10:00.000-04:002007-09-06T16:10:00.000-04:00Debrah 10:18 p.m.:Regarding the future of Ashley's...Debrah 10:18 p.m.:<BR/><BR/>Regarding the future of Ashley's Herald-Sun, I too wonder if it has one. ABC circulation figures due in October should provide evidence one way or the other.<BR/><BR/>Ashley practices journalism in a parallel universe. This guy isn't exactly the brightest candle in the chandelier -- he hooked up with the losers in the lax case, and hung on like a snapping turtle when any thinking person could see what was coming down. Why? I can only surmise his leftist ideology blinded him to the facts.<BR/><BR/>As folks on the editorial side say, never let the facts get in the way of a good opinion. But for the news side, it's the other way around. Ashley apparently thinks there's no difference.<BR/><BR/>And, for a certain segment of Durham, exemplified by Diane Catotti and her progressive (none dare call themselves liberal) crowd, Ashley's editorship no doubt ranks as the ne plus ultra of post-modern journalism. <BR/><BR/>God spare us from these tiresome people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-26715509629351256862007-09-06T11:45:00.000-04:002007-09-06T11:45:00.000-04:00anon 10:47-It's really kind of sad - he has a good...anon 10:47-<BR/>It's really kind of sad - he has a good point about the downside to not letting students drink on campus, though he ignores the fact that it's a result of state and federal laws (Than you Liddy Dole for the national drinking age of 21, achieved by holding highway funds hostage to let the federal government bully states into doing what it wanted in a realm where it has no constitusional authority - in your small way you helped create the circumstances that engulfed one of your interns, who you then left to twist in the wind. If I lived in your state you'd be enough to make me vote for a Democrat.)<BR/><BR/>But the reactions to his loyalty to his fellow professors totally obscures anything else he has to say. And, in my opinion, rightly so.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51982538731040535242007-09-06T10:47:00.000-04:002007-09-06T10:47:00.000-04:00for ralph and anyone else interested, I left a com...for ralph and anyone else interested, I left a comment about the "Duke instructor's" remarks <A HREF="http://www.dukechronicle.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticleComments&ustory_id=b1473afa-520b-4d6a-96be-c068dff0b8ab" REL="nofollow">here</A> on <I>The Chronicle</I> website. All comments are there, including the "Duke instructor's".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62924110716926906942007-09-06T09:15:00.000-04:002007-09-06T09:15:00.000-04:00TO 9:01AM--You have to take the bull by the horns ...TO 9:01AM--<BR/><BR/>You have to <I>take the bull by the horns</I> in such matters.<BR/><BR/>Complain to the manager. Give details as you have here. Shame them for their--because of ignorance or indifference--lack of knowledge about this nationally and internationally-known case.<BR/><BR/>If all this doesn't work, subtlely allude to the next-to-last episode of the <I>Sopranos</I>.<BR/><BR/>Someone will move.<BR/><BR/>:>)Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-86314576652669407222007-09-06T09:01:00.000-04:002007-09-06T09:01:00.000-04:00I walked into a Borders in New Jersey, not far fro...I walked into a Borders in New Jersey, not far from where one of the falsely accused went to school. I saw Bill Clinton's new book prominently displayed, no sign of KC's book. I had to hunt down an employee who had to look up where they were keeping them, they were in the "law section" not with new releases or in front of the store.<BR/>What is up with that? KC> you may want to speak to your publicist, it's the Borders on Route 10 in Livingston.It isn't one I've been in before, just happened to be in the neighborhood.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12443285897323434312007-09-06T08:16:00.000-04:002007-09-06T08:16:00.000-04:00"AF said at 7:34 PM ... Duke Instructor saidAs an ..."AF said at 7:34 PM ... <BR/><I>Duke Instructor said<BR/>As an instructor at Duke, I am ....</I><BR/><BR/><BR/>From where did this originate?<BR/><BR/>I can guarantee you one thing, this was not a law professor. Too much disconnect from facts, logic, and the reasonable inferrences to be drawn therefrom.<BR/><BR/>RRH"<BR/><BR/>He could be a "Critical Legal Theory" guy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7019188808663647632007-09-06T03:27:00.000-04:002007-09-06T03:27:00.000-04:00Kim Curtis's right arm looks like Gollum's. Sinewy...Kim Curtis's right arm looks like Gollum's. Sinewy and with an enormous hand.<BR/><BR/>I wonder what she considers her "Precious"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-56040767022779209792007-09-06T02:19:00.000-04:002007-09-06T02:19:00.000-04:006:31/KC Johnson, ya gotta do better than that old ...6:31/KC Johnson, ya gotta do better than that old pal. You're making more and more little mistakes...I suggest you note more clearly where you've revised from the original post. <BR/><BR/>I'd also suggest that you pack up now and go home. You're mostly using this as self (-rightous) advertising for your book.<BR/><BR/>Some people might begin to think that you really are jealous that people who teach subjects of which you disapprove (ie, they don't think American political and consistitional history is the academic be all and end all) and that you like to go at a school of the high callibre that didn't hire you. (Yes, Greek chorus, KC Johnson is a "New York" boy--with that bow tie, maybe not. But face it; Brooklyn College is a fine local school.)<BR/> <BR/>And, finally, that your favorite targets--perhaps, among many--seem to be AA women. <BR/><BR/>I can't imagine that your parents aren't a bit embarassed by your behavior.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35779963898811502022007-09-06T00:09:00.000-04:002007-09-06T00:09:00.000-04:00TO 11:57PM--I couldn't agree more; however, KC has...TO 11:57PM--<BR/><BR/>I couldn't agree more; however, KC has to have an association with some local news outlet.<BR/><BR/>Even though the N&O performed abominably for months--especially the editorial staff--they finally came around thanks to Joe Neff.<BR/><BR/>I just hope KC doesn't shower them with too much praise when he goes there to speak before them.<BR/><BR/>The editorial today was a good one, but just look all it has taken for them to get to this point.<BR/><BR/>I was also irritated with them for the lackadaisical attitude about covering Tuesday night at Duke. Seems the run-of-the-mill reporters just like to <I>move on</I>.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-21813999282752561642007-09-05T23:57:00.000-04:002007-09-05T23:57:00.000-04:00One would not anticipate the N&O to be upset about...One would not anticipate the N&O to be upset about light sentencing for lies about what you have revealed, covering up what all you withheld.<BR/><BR/>They are pretty good at withholding facts there, at least some of the employees are.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48422254084136932192007-09-05T23:31:00.000-04:002007-09-05T23:31:00.000-04:00inman said... I am tired of the assertion that whi...inman said... <BR/>I am tired of the assertion that white men are guilty of raping black women. No one puts forth facts or evidence when they assert his as fact. There is just hyperbole.<BR/><BR/>Please do not race bait.<BR/>Or people will accuse.<BR/>Last one to make trouble.<BR/>And white guilt again.<BR/>Never would rape anyone.<BR/>Since I'm moral and <BR/>Kind to all God's creatures.<BR/>Isn't that strange?<BR/><BR/>Good luck on book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20071559793489275892007-09-05T23:27:00.000-04:002007-09-05T23:27:00.000-04:00Inman, I think you're on the right track. If you ...Inman, I think you're on the right track. If you get a chance, look at some of the works on interracial rape in the antebellum South by Diane Sommerville (sp?).<BR/><BR/>RRHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-89649840377620895852007-09-05T23:24:00.000-04:002007-09-05T23:24:00.000-04:00thanks, 10:45 ... Are you the "AF" who posted it a...thanks, 10:45 ... Are you the "AF" who posted it at 7:34? <BR/><BR/>RRHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47015540872494461302007-09-05T23:15:00.000-04:002007-09-05T23:15:00.000-04:00To "inman"--I don't want to make light of your cur...To "inman"--<BR/><BR/>I don't want to make light of your current issue, but if there's one thing in life that is a moving target, it is the sexual dynamics between men and women.<BR/><BR/>(Oops! Just in case 88-ers Kathy Rudy, Petey Sigal, or the orchid-as-vulva pheromone king Michael Hardt happen to be tuning in........<I>all</I> sexual relationships are of great importance...no matter which genders are interacting.....or with whatever inanimate object or plant derivative.)<BR/><BR/>The Diva does strive to be diverse!Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15040384578111911292007-09-05T22:45:00.000-04:002007-09-05T22:45:00.000-04:00To: RRHsee post at 6:17To: RRH<BR/>see post at 6:17Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-32125829880273449122007-09-05T22:41:00.000-04:002007-09-05T22:41:00.000-04:00As an addendum to my post @ 9:31...Unless there is...As an addendum to my post @ 9:31...<BR/><BR/>Unless there is evidence of a <I><B>conviction of rape by a white man of a black woman</I></B> then there is no evidence. Those are the facts that I'd like to see. Beyond that, it is a simply anecdotal stories of "he says -- she says" or the assertion that because there are many mulatto, quadroon, octoroon, etc., then certainly rape must have occurred.<BR/><BR/>Well, I am not convinced. An equally plausible hypothesis is that young black enslaved women coveted the opportunity to have sex with white men and pursued those opportunities with zeal, as an avenue to freedom. <BR/><BR/>So. Where is the evidence?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34340241976252205552007-09-05T22:31:00.000-04:002007-09-05T22:31:00.000-04:00TO 7:26PM--:>)TO 7:26PM--<BR/><BR/><B>:>)</B>Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33484286864159050732007-09-05T22:18:00.000-04:002007-09-05T22:18:00.000-04:00Bob Wilson, my man!You know more than most about t...Bob Wilson, my man!<BR/><BR/>You know more than most about the sorry state of affairs. Can you believe what they have done to your once-balanced newspaper?<BR/><BR/>That Billy-Bob Ashley is one for the comic books.<BR/><BR/>People say the paper will fold soon. I'd be interested in your opinion on that.<BR/><BR/>Good to see that you are observing this circus.<BR/><BR/>(BTW, has the Friends of Durham become so inconsequential that they have to support someone like "Castrotti"?)Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-25696769640752879752007-09-05T22:09:00.000-04:002007-09-05T22:09:00.000-04:00AF said at 7:34 PM ... Duke Instructor saidAs an i...<B><I>AF said at 7:34 PM ... </B><BR/>Duke Instructor said<BR/>As an instructor at Duke, I am ....<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>From where did <B><I>this</I></B> originate?<BR/><BR/>I can guarantee you one thing, this was not a law professor. Too much disconnect from facts, logic, and the reasonable inferrences to be drawn therefrom.<BR/><BR/>RRHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68403826666237064882007-09-05T21:59:00.000-04:002007-09-05T21:59:00.000-04:00AF,Thanks for the post: the "Duke Instructor" soun...AF,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the post: the "Duke Instructor" sounds more like a "Duke Administrator."<BR/><BR/>I think it's a word from Brodhead.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-44351339385271759642007-09-05T21:31:00.000-04:002007-09-05T21:31:00.000-04:00I am tired of the assertion that white men are gui...I am tired of the assertion that white men are guilty of raping black women. No one puts forth facts or evidence when they assert his as fact. There is just hyperbole. For example, the Duke Instructor says: <BR/><BR/><I>There is a history of wealthy white men getting away with similar crimes against African-Americans; denying the *possibility* that such a crime may have happened again is a denial of this history.</I><BR/><BR/>On what objective basis does he/she assert this conclusion? Please, educate me.<BR/><BR/>Please, someone...anyone...provide the proof...provide the facts...what are the statistics?<BR/><BR/>I'm getting really tired of the conclusion and its inflammatory consequence. If there are facts...I will listen and consider.<BR/><BR/>If not...shut the f*** up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-55457264147062718252007-09-05T21:08:00.000-04:002007-09-05T21:08:00.000-04:00To 8:07See 3:07 & 1:22 above.To 8:07<BR/>See 3:07 & 1:22 above.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80842093764135470072007-09-05T20:24:00.000-04:002007-09-05T20:24:00.000-04:00Lock and load, Debrah! Ashley has driven the H-S i...Lock and load, Debrah! Ashley has driven the H-S into the brackish backwaters of American journalism. Health to the alligators.<BR/><BR/>The photo of Curtis and Catotti (should one say Castrotti?) speaks volumes about these two twits. Clearly the plight of the wretched of the earth is weighing on their souls. I wonder, though, if they have the capacity to see themselves, and others of their ilk, as fellow members of the privileged classes that they so zealously denounce. But then, what's a little hypocrisy among friends, eh?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51640596055520689252007-09-05T20:08:00.000-04:002007-09-05T20:08:00.000-04:00"Instead of beating up the whole of Durham ... sho..."Instead of beating up the whole of Durham ... shouldn't we rather be hoping for full exposure (which, in the end, will cost most Durham citizens a bundle).<BR/><BR/>Really we're not all bad and not foolish enough to want to get involved in Durham politics -- other than to vote."<BR/><BR/>Anonymous 3:54 PM<BR/><BR/>You've posted a reasonable request. You and others might be interested in reading a tidbit posted on another message board by one of your Durham neighbors.<BR/><BR/>Instead of beating up the whole of Durham ... shouldn't we rather be hoping for full exposure (which, in the end, will cost most Durham citizens a bundle).<BR/><BR/>Really we're not all bad and not foolish enough to want to get involved in Durham politics -- other than to vote. <BR/><BR/>"I'm almost ashamed to admit it now but in the beginning I also believed Nifong and the stripper. Being a lifelong Durham resident and witness on many occasions to the behavior of Duke students it was easy. I also knew Nifong personally as my husband is a retired Durham police officer and my son played baseball with Nifong's son so I thought that he was an honorable man. I quickly learned that I had done what a lot of others had done and rushed to the wrong conclusion. I am currently reading the book by Coach Pressler and it's amazing how those kids were treated by Duke and the City of Durham. I watched and read all of the reports that I could and still am amazed by this book. The City and Duke are not finished by no stretch and rightfully so."<BR/><BR/>Unfortunately, the sound you hear is coming from a big wheel that has begin rolling down a steep North Carolina hill and many Durham residents - good and bad - are going to get crushed when it finally gets to them.<BR/><BR/>BTW. Did you vote for Nifong?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com