tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post6226510199245133795..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Updates: Burness, Group in the Newskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger214125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19224689735638233182007-11-06T10:25:00.000-05:002007-11-06T10:25:00.000-05:00"So - the intimidated and the deniers, who I consi...<I>"So - the intimidated and the deniers, who I consider a variant of the intimidated. What exactly are they afraid of?"<BR/><BR/>Sticking their necks out. Same type of psychology that makes possible a Vichy regime.</I><BR/><BR/>Sigh. The French were afraid to stick their necks out because if they did some German guy with a uniform - a colleague of the guys who had just destroyed the French army - would take him outside and shoot him in the head. [This happened to a second cousin once-removed in the Netherlands who had a "Welcome home Queen Wilhelmina" banner rolled up in his house a couple of days earlier than prudence would have recommended.]<BR/><BR/>What are the faculty afraid will happen to them if they stick their necks out?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41401070866624897132007-11-03T22:28:00.000-04:002007-11-03T22:28:00.000-04:00Seems like Holloway wants to indict everyone who s...Seems like Holloway wants to indict everyone who she considers "privileged," but won't admit into evidence her own children's obvious privilege.<BR/><BR/>Since "privilege" is her game, and other people's children are her target, her own history - and that of her children - are not off the table for discussion.<BR/><BR/>Her children were the children of privilege.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-64291242035109580222007-11-03T14:14:00.000-04:002007-11-03T14:14:00.000-04:00(Response to hearing Holloway was the ONLY person ...(Response to hearing Holloway was the ONLY person to be awarded a suspicious "Master of Legal Studies" degree in 2005):<BR/><BR/>"I'm surprised she hasn't proclaimed herself valedictorian."<BR/>_______________<BR/><BR/>Anonymous at 2:10 - you made me laugh so hard I snorted Diet Coke through my nose!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31771152008177940382007-11-03T12:51:00.000-04:002007-11-03T12:51:00.000-04:00For Duke Prof and Ralph Phelan --The prerequisite ...For Duke Prof and Ralph Phelan --<BR/><BR/>The prerequisite struggle is against the Metanarrative -- the historical lies that people are told about race relations which undergird the notion that black behavior is a result of white attitudes, rather than the other way around.<BR/><BR/>As I've said before, the Lax Hoax should properly be called the Micronarrative -- when Prof. Holloway talked about "perfect" victims and offenders, this is what she had in mind: The Lax Case as a microcosm of the history of race relations in America. (Actually, she turned out to be right as black lies combined with the perfidy of some powerful whites to create an inhuman hoax. That really <B><I>is</B></I> a microcosm of American race history.)<BR/><BR/>RRHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41664559161533933602007-11-02T17:43:00.000-04:002007-11-02T17:43:00.000-04:00KC of Harvard and University of Chicago is above r...KC of Harvard and University of Chicago is above reproach. Glad he won his tenure fight - none of this is news to those of us, who haave been here from the beginning. KC is a hero and the force that helped exonerate the defendents. I still disagree with him over Levicy. Notice Jim Cooney did not mention investigating her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-30721005624556331602007-11-02T15:02:00.000-04:002007-11-02T15:02:00.000-04:00phelan wrote"So - the intimidated and the deniers,...phelan wrote<BR/><BR/>"So - the intimidated and the deniers, who I consider a variant of the intimidated. What exactly are they afraid of?"<BR/><BR/>Sticking their necks out. Same type of psychology that makes possible a Vichy regime.<BR/><BR/>"How many of them are there?"<BR/><BR/>The vast majority. After all, there were *only* 88.<BR/><BR/>"If they all woke up and found their gonads simultaneously would there be enough of them to protect each others' careers?"<BR/><BR/>Sure. But even "gonads" can wither and die from disuse.<BR/><BR/>Duke ProfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43251879310010752622007-11-02T14:05:00.000-04:002007-11-02T14:05:00.000-04:00Duke Prof:I think your third kind is better descri...Duke Prof:<BR/><BR/>I think your third kind is better described as "denial." They can't make themselves believe the bs, they don't have the courage to fight it, they're unable to admit to themselves that they are intimidated, so they pretent things aren't really as bad as they are to justify their inaction.<BR/><BR/><I>A second version of this "brain shrinking" seems to be those who flee to fields that they consider "safe" from such debates </I><BR/>That seems to me more like "running away," and not very different in kind from leaving academia for saner pastures. It strikes me as a reasonable response to a nasty situation you don't think you can fix.<BR/><BR/>So - the intimidated and the deniers, who I consider a variant of the intimidated. What exactly are they afraid of? How many of them are there? Are they a majority? If they all woke up and found their gonads simultaneously would there be enough of them to protect each others' careers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43627303617240186172007-11-02T13:54:00.000-04:002007-11-02T13:54:00.000-04:00"...in Holloway's case (to cite but one example), ..."...in Holloway's case (to cite but one example), she has managed to marshall the contents of what appears to be a severe personality disorder into a career goldmine. Stupidity, by itself, is bad enough; craziness, by itself, is even worse. Combine 'stupid' and 'nuts', and you have a deadly (albeit apparently lucrative) combination."<BR/>------------------------------------<BR/><BR/>"It's such a fine line between stupid and clever."<BR/><BR/>David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap vocalistAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53875021589572837972007-11-02T13:51:00.000-04:002007-11-02T13:51:00.000-04:00[re: "I wouldn't be surprised if, at this very mom...[re: "I wouldn't be surprised if, at this very moment, [Holloway] is busy ENGINEERING Broadhead's departure behind the scenes..."]<BR/><BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>BREAKING NEWS FROM THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT:<BR/><BR/>KFC Holloway has just been 'elevated' to the 'distinguished' William R. Kenan Professorship in Engineering at Duke University.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47849994711743307592007-11-02T13:01:00.000-04:002007-11-02T13:01:00.000-04:00"...it's the professional life that seems a reason..."...it's the professional life that seems a reasonable issue here. If KC had any integrity at all he would have barred those comments about [Holloway's] personal life."<BR/><BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>With Holloway (not mention almost every single one of the rest of the 88) it is difficult to separate a discussion of her personal life from a discussion of her professional life, inasmuch as, in Holloway's case (to cite but one example), she has managed to marshall the contents of what appears to be a severe personality disorder into a career goldmine. Stupidity, by itself, is bad enough; craziness, by itself, is even worse. Combine 'stupid' and 'nuts', and you have a deadly (albeit apparently lucrative) combination.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28261619388653664302007-11-02T11:53:00.000-04:002007-11-02T11:53:00.000-04:00Why is everyone afraid to name the obvious? (That'...Why is everyone afraid to name the obvious? (That's a real question.) <BR/><BR/>Duke Prof<BR/><BR/>Phelan:<BR/><BR/>"We're not afraid to name it here. You're the "Duke Prof," you tell us. I really am curious about the detailed mechanisms and mindset involved in faculty self-censorship."<BR/><BR/>Sorry. I should have been more specific. By "everyone," I didn't mean those here who have the ability and courage to "name it." I meant those at Duke, and other universities, who should have the ability and backbone to "name it."<BR/><BR/>From my experience, there are two types of "faculty self-censorship:" Those who refuse to see -- the willfully blind, and those who see but are afraid to speak -- the cowards. <BR/><BR/>I often wonder whether there is a third type. This is not really self-censorship, as much as self-inflicted "brain shrinking." There seem to be faculty who are intellectually incapable of seeing what's happening in the academic world around them because they have spent their careers dealing with minutiae -- e.g., a career spent writing the equivalent of 1500-page tracts on a clause in the 14th amendment. A second version of this "brain shrinking" seems to be those who flee to fields that they consider "safe" from such debates because those fields are regarded as "value free." Some consider economics such a field. <BR/><BR/>Duke ProfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-63570250667766966052007-11-02T11:07:00.000-04:002007-11-02T11:07:00.000-04:00[DukeProf at 8:38 noted:"You could throw darts at ...[DukeProf at 8:38 noted:"You could throw darts at almost any faculty directory at Duke and hit the names of academics whose credentials, intelligence, and powers of articulation make them more qualified for an appointment at the law school...She got the law school *annointment* because she is a black female who keeps playing the race/gender card. That, and she's buoyed by administrators who keep falling over themselves to prove how race/gender sensitive they are."]<BR/><BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>I have a hunch, also, that she serves as the 'poster girl' for the M[aster of] L[egal] S[tudies] degree. Such terminal degrees are sort of "Gilligan's Island" degrees that provide a [three-hour] tour through various topics in law, allowing non-specialists in law to acquire enough of a working-knowledge of law to apply it within their own fields of inquiry. However, if Holloway's legal thought on the lacrosse fiasco is any indication of what she gained in pursuing the M.L.S., then Duke Law School needs to dismantle the program immediately (or at least consider applying far stricter standards in conferring the degree).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-45078360891312181942007-11-02T10:36:00.000-04:002007-11-02T10:36:00.000-04:00[re: 7:05 PM - "Anything is possible in DIW, even ...[re: 7:05 PM - "Anything is possible in DIW, even Holloway as president of Duke. I'm hoping, however, she'll politic her way to a permanent appointment at Harvard, and Duke will be rid of one more of the most egregious of the 88."<BR/><BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>After what Harvard did to Lawrence Summers, they richly deserve what they would get with the likes of Holloway.<BR/><BR/>Holloway is out of her league at Duke. That much is clear. At Harvard she would be so far out of her league (both inside and outside the confines of the AAAS Dept.) that it wouldn't even be funny. Then, again, upon further thought, it would be hilarious.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-36514081712004351982007-11-02T09:19:00.000-04:002007-11-02T09:19:00.000-04:00To Debrah at 6:52 and anonymous at 7:05, thank you...To Debrah at 6:52 and anonymous at 7:05, thank you. I was afraid my 4:44 posting was too "stream of consciousness". <BR/><BR/><I>Duke Prof said...<BR/><BR/>Why is everyone afraid to name the obvious?</I><BR/><BR/>Let's never stop asking that question.<BR/><BR/>RRHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-21736516007035568632007-11-02T08:40:00.000-04:002007-11-02T08:40:00.000-04:00Why is everyone afraid to name the obvious? (That'...<I>Why is everyone afraid to name the obvious? (That's a real question.) <BR/><BR/>Duke Prof</I><BR/><BR/>We're not afraid to name it here. You're the "Duke Prof," you tell us. I really am curious about the detailed mechanisms and mindset involved in faculty self-censorship.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31978086120276783502007-11-01T20:38:00.000-04:002007-11-01T20:38:00.000-04:00You could throw darts at almost any faculty direct...You could throw darts at almost any faculty directory at Duke and hit the names of academics whose credentials, intelligence, and powers of articulation make them more qualified for an appointment at the law school.<BR/><BR/>Why is everyone afraid to name the obvious? (That's a real question.) She got the law school *annointment* because she is a black female who keeps playing the race/gender card. That, and she's buoyed by administrators who keep falling over themselves to prove how race/gender sensitive they are.<BR/><BR/>Duke ProfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87723043718373361892007-11-01T19:05:00.000-04:002007-11-01T19:05:00.000-04:00R R Hamilton at 4:44 PM, 11/1/07,good recounting o...R R Hamilton at 4:44 PM, 11/1/07,<BR/>good recounting of some of the extensive pain Holloway has caused.<BR/><BR/>Anything is possible in DIW, even Holloway as president of Duke. I'm hoping, however, she'll politic her way to a permanent appointment at Harvard, and Duke will be rid of one more of the most egregious of the 88.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-61126032864156996382007-11-01T18:52:00.000-04:002007-11-01T18:52:00.000-04:00RRH (4:44 PM)--Excellent.RRH (4:44 PM)--<BR/><BR/>Excellent.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62852631799960420722007-11-01T18:15:00.000-04:002007-11-01T18:15:00.000-04:00""What further heights could she [Holloway] possib...""What further heights could she [Holloway] possibly attain?"<BR/><BR/>President of Duke University? After all, Brodhead will need a replacement."<BR/><BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>I wouldn't be surprised if, at this very moment, she is busy engineering his departure behind the scenes (she appears to have had experience doing this on at least one other occasion).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18995357423544563952007-11-01T17:36:00.000-04:002007-11-01T17:36:00.000-04:00"It's [KC's] lackluster professional reputation an..."It's [KC's] lackluster professional reputation and its very public history that [he is] still trying to redeem"<BR/><BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>Intellectually and academically, KC dances circles around the likes of, say, Alex Rosenberg(not to mention every single one of the other preposterous gasbags that constitute the Gang of 88). He's widely recognized as being in a wholly different league.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-67800707731938288812007-11-01T16:44:00.000-04:002007-11-01T16:44:00.000-04:00anonymous 88ist says ... It's [KC's] lackluster pr...<I>anonymous 88ist says ...<BR/><BR/> It's [KC's] lackluster professional reputation and its very public history that [he is] still trying to redeem. And unlike others, it's the professional life that seems a reasonable issue here. If KC had any integrity at all he would have barred those comments about her personal life. But he gets his jollies there too. You lose on the integrity front KC--one of your bloggers suggested you consider these off topic, but you can't even take that clue. But clueless, about what trails from your newest professional interests seems to be the watchword of the day.<BR/><BR/>11/1/07 12:25 PM<BR/></I><BR/>This is fucking rich.<BR/><BR/>The 88ist wants to censor discussions of Prof. Holloway -- "limit it to her professional life". Does it hurt her precious feelings to be reminded of <B>the facts</B> of her own past? <BR/><BR/>Well guess what? Did Prof. Holloway limit her discussions of the lacrosse players to just their "professional life"? Was she talking about the quality of their on-the-field play? <BR/><BR/>Oh wait, now I remember! Prof. Holloway organized a Duke faculty greenlight for a racist railroading of lax players that she knew or reasonably should have known were innocent. More than any other person, she created the Duke faculty imprimatur for Nifong to prosecute innocent white children. His prosecution grew from her persecution. Meanwhile, we've learned that "behind the scenes" Prof. Holloway was orchestrating the conditions that led to the firing of the lacrosse coach and other hateful ventures like the CCI.<BR/><BR/>And did some parents suffer from this Holloway-led persecution of their children? Did you hear Reade Seligman relate how he heard over the phone how "the life was just sucked out of" his mother? Does <B>that</B> sound like a painful moment for a parent, anonymouse at 12:25 PM? Or did you hear that Colin Finnerty saw, for the first time in his life, his own father sobbing? Does <B>that</B> sound like a painful moment for a parent? Did you hear how the stress of the Holloway-endorsed persecution caused Dave Evans' father to endure a new strain of diabetes? How about <B>that</B> for parental pain, anonymouse @ 12:25 PM?<BR/><BR/>Those parents suffered because of the <B>lies</B> told by <B> Prof. Holloway</B> about their children. (Oh, yeah, you can <B>argue</B> that "there was no causal connection" between the Holloway-led persecution and Nifong's prosecution, but Duke's highly-paid lawyers already advised against trying to make that argument!)<BR/><BR/>Now that Holloway's lies have caused so much pain to so many innocent people, she deserves to be shielded from the consequences of the <B>truth</B> about herself and her own family? Sorry, out here in the <B>real</B> world -- outside that ivory tower that protects evil -- that's not a bargain even worthy of consideration!<BR/><BR/>Thinking about how many innocent people have been hurt by Prof. Holloway, her son looks good by comparison.<BR/><BR/>R.R. HamiltonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-17576392654079642092007-11-01T16:14:00.000-04:002007-11-01T16:14:00.000-04:00"What further heights could she [Holloway] possibl..."What further heights could she [Holloway] possibly attain?"<BR/><BR/>President of Duke University? After all, Brodhead will need a replacement.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57340516801501602122007-11-01T14:02:00.000-04:002007-11-01T14:02:00.000-04:00"Sounds to me like this is an old posting, it does..."Sounds to me like this is an old posting, it doesn't even reflect the elevation of [Holloway's] distinguished professorship."<BR/><BR/>-----------------------------------<BR/><BR/>Oh, pardon me all to hell. Holloway has now been 'elevated' to Arts and Sciences Professor of English (but she still isn't "Professor of Law", and you know it). What further heights could she possibly attain? Oh, yes. There's still the little matter of an impending coronation (she is, after all, an uncrowned queen). In which case "Her Majesty" will need to assemble her court. Allow me to suggest the following (whose qualifications and credentials for the respective jobs are impeccable):<BR/><BR/>Ladies-in-waiting: Houston Baker and Mark Anthony Neal<BR/>Gentleman of the Privy Chamber: Diane Nelson and Wahneema Lubiano<BR/>Custodian of the Royal Chamber Pot: Richard BrodheadAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-63740229929531280282007-11-01T13:01:00.000-04:002007-11-01T13:01:00.000-04:00Suggestions for casting for the upcoming HBO movie...Suggestions for casting for the upcoming HBO movie based on KC's book:<BR/><BR/>Houston Baker (played by Queen Latifah)<BR/>Mark Anthony Neal (played by Mo'Nique)<BR/>Wahneema Lubiano (played by Stanley Crouch)<BR/>Karla Holloway (played by Tyler Perry [as Madea])<BR/>Crystal Gail Mangum (played by Martin Lawrence [as Shanaynay])Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78388950209567273412007-11-01T12:53:00.000-04:002007-11-01T12:53:00.000-04:00To the 12.25:"Duke faculty write their own bios fo...To the 12.25:<BR/><BR/>"Duke faculty write their own bios for these blogs."<BR/><BR/>My comments have referred to Duke University's official website. I never have heard that website referred to as a "blog" before. Whether Duke faculty or someone else writes their bios for this website is irrelevant; it is a university publication.<BR/><BR/>The idea that students, parents, alumni, and trustees cannot trust basic factual information on the Duke website--that all such information needs to be cleared with the department chair before it can be trusted--is an argument initially floated by Charlie Piot, and is one of the most extraordinary assertions I've heard in this case. Duke is not a third-tier community colleges, which lacks basic resources to keep its website accurate.<BR/><BR/>As for my "lackluster professional reputation and its very public history," I refer you back to the Chronicle of Higher Ed article. I'm not sure that many people would describe the first sentence in the article as suggesting a "lackluster professional reputation." But I'm sure the Group of 88 would disagree.kcjohnson9https://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.com