tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post6925170779936725947..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Himan Bombshellskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger183125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-42907946717066079552007-06-14T21:41:00.000-04:002007-06-14T21:41:00.000-04:00DPD remind me of someone.....I got it , The keysto...DPD remind me of someone.....I got it , The keystone cops.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-67193657363316177742007-06-14T00:31:00.000-04:002007-06-14T00:31:00.000-04:00anonymous @9:07:00 AM said...Every claim of rape s...anonymous @9:07:00 AM said...<BR/><I>Every claim of rape should be treated without skepticism until there is reason for skepticism, otherwise you start your investigation assuming the victim is a liar and that is crazy unless you are a woman hater who wrongly believes based on no credible evidece that most or many rape claims are false. <BR/>All legitimate evidence and research puts false claims somwhere between 3% and 8%. You can lie, spin and drag out your out of context data and your single anomalous study all you want and it won't change the facts. </I><BR/><BR/>There is a big difference between being sceptical and assuming an accuser is a liar. Investigators, like researchers, should start from a position of scepticism with accusers AND accused alike. <BR/><BR/>"Legitimate research" by your judgement is that which fits your own prejudice. Same with mens rights groups. I don't believe you. And I don't believe them. <BR/><BR/>As it stands it is feminist advocacy rather than that of mens rights groups which is tending to corrupt the system and the fundamental principles of our democracy. They have a provable record of exaggeration and hysteria on these isssues. <BR/><BR/>Proposed new laws in the UK and Australia reverse the burden of proof. Mexican men no longer have the right to consent. These things at the behest of feminists.<BR/><BR/><BR/>anonymous @10:08:00 AM<BR/>Actually most false claims of rape/sexual abuse occur in the family courts where the burden of proof is lower or non-existant.<BR/><BR/><I><B>Most rape complaints involve people who know each other and no force</B>, if a woman is going to lie about rape she will do something better than 'I drank alot and he raped me'</I><BR/>And therefore devolve to one persons word against another. Feminist advocacy demands that one persons word be given more weight than that of another based on gender. That way lies bigotry.<BR/><BR/>When feminists start calling for the punishment of false accusers then I will start taking them seriously. Until that time they remain a corrupting influence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31908865982483831672007-06-13T10:46:00.000-04:002007-06-13T10:46:00.000-04:00That's a little harsh, not sure that most police o...That's a little harsh, not sure that most police officer are that craven, though there is a sizeable minority that are.<BR/><BR/>It all goes back to our country giving up on standards across the board and substituting all manner of metrics in place of quality.<BR/><BR/>I recently read about the New Orleans police behavior in the wake of Katrina and I was stunned. Cops looting, killing and beating people at random, shooting people's PETS for target practice they had left behind, threatening to shoot people who wouldn't evacuate...<BR/><BR/>Yes also, Nifong is the classic bully, only smart enough to pass the bar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-9852352904727855582007-06-13T10:30:00.000-04:002007-06-13T10:30:00.000-04:00It has been my personal experience at age 45 that ...It has been my personal experience at age 45 that most egomaniacal, physically threatening, or aggressive bullies coming out of high school, if they are even smart enough to graduate, end up becoming cops. Being a cop allows them to have their own little power trip even as they know that they have neither the intellect nor the inclination to do any other sort of job. They get to harass at will, ogle the women who arent so impressed by their uniform, give tickets and make arrests often for random reasons which they usually need not explain to anyone. Who else would be foolish enough to put their lives on the line everyday by making themselves targets for the real criminals in the population, all for $50K a year? For them, its a willing trade off. 20 years and a pension, along with the chance to harass minorities, rich people, teenagers, or whoever they feel like at their own discretion, what could be better than that? Plus you get to carry a gun, the ultimate penis symbol for emasculated, frustrated sociopaths. And of course, who can forget the graft and opportunities for extortion and starting your own little protection racket? Ironically, Nifong fits this mold, but he must have had enough brains to get through college and law school and somehow passed the bar. Clearly, he was not smart enough and far too vindictive to be successful in private practice vs the likes of Cheshire, et al. So he chose the path that brought him closest to those he could emulate, the Durham police, whose mistreatment of the general population for their own benefit and amusement fell right in line with his own evil tendencies. They are all made for each other. Read up on what police have been doing lately in Chicago, Los Angeles, New York, Newark, Detroit, Durham, etc... I have never heard a bigger line of bullshit than the words "To Protect and Serve". Yeah right. Self-service is more like it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-86717012487082643202007-06-13T10:08:00.000-04:002007-06-13T10:08:00.000-04:00Its a straw man argument, the men's rights groups ...Its a straw man argument, the men's rights groups use the myth that feminists say 'women never lie about rape' to ridicule ALL rape advocates and rape victims.<BR/><BR/>The truth is, rape advocates will tell you that women DO lie about rape but it is very RARE and generally falls into a handful of categories, none of which includes 'regret' for consensual sex. Only a total idiot would say that women NEVER lie about rape since there are many documented cases where they did just that.<BR/><BR/>Most false rape claims are like this one, they involve strangers and use of force, the victim struggles, but can't fight off her attacker, often the false rape claimant will fail to identify anyone, she will claim that 'big black men/hispanics/motorcycle gang/masked men' raped her, this allows her to get sympathy without having to ID anyone....the false rape claim tracks to the idea that society has of what rape is, stranger/violent/struggle.<BR/><BR/>Most rape complaints involve people who know each other and no force, if a woman is going to lie about rape she will do something better than 'I drank alot and he raped me'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79149132858470334422007-06-13T09:07:00.000-04:002007-06-13T09:07:00.000-04:00gwallen,Every claim of rape should be treated with...gwallen,<BR/><BR/>Every claim of rape should be treated without skepticism until there is reason for skepticism, otherwise you start your investigation assuming the victim is a liar and that is crazy unless you are a woman hater who wrongly believes based on no credible evidece that most or many rape claims are false. <BR/><BR/>All legitimate evidence and research puts false claims somwhere between 3% and 8%. You can lie, spin and drag out your out of context data and your single anomalous study all you want and it won't change the facts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68277788119044355972007-06-13T07:22:00.000-04:002007-06-13T07:22:00.000-04:00Gary Packwood,You could be right about Nifonghitch...Gary Packwood,<BR/><BR/>You could be right about Nifong<BR/>hitching his horse to Levicy's<BR/>cart, rather than the other way<BR/>around. (Today might provide some<BR/>answers?) <BR/> <BR/>In any case, I'd say that there<BR/>was a whole team of horses.<BR/>Another equestrian analogy:<BR/><BR/>A horse will willingly<BR/>go back into a burning barn.<BR/><BR/>Today, we'll see who's the cart<BR/>and who's the horse.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-60544218164757305342007-06-13T07:13:00.000-04:002007-06-13T07:13:00.000-04:00anonymous @5:29:00 PM said...No one except the wom...anonymous @5:29:00 PM said...<BR/><I>No one except the woman hating men's rights people ever say that 'women NEVER lie about rape' you will never find a rape advocate anywhere who says no woman has ever lied about rape, that is a myth used to trash and bash rape advocates and rape victims.</I><BR/>Rubbish. My own mother, who has been involved in mainstream politics for fifty years, said exactly this to me a couple of days ago. The feminist insistance that authorities view EVERY claim of rape without scepticism is based on this attitude. You signalled your own hateful ideology in your first sentence. It would be the same ideology practised by those, such as the G88, who urged this fraud onward. <BR/><BR/><BR/>@5:29:00 PM then went on to say...<BR/><I>What they will tell you and its backed up by much data is that women rarely lie about rape.</I><BR/>There is also significant research suggesting the opposite. On the other hand feminists have been lying about rape for decades. Their politicisation of it is what created this mess in the first place.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Anonymous @5:57:00 PM said... <BR/><I>Those who don't think rape is a real problem will never believe otherwise, no amount of data, anecdotes, studies or surveys will convince the person who believes that women lie about rape because they 'regret' sex. It is an absurd notion that infantilizes women, turning them into psychopaths willing to do anything, go through any humiliation in order to 'get' the guy that they 'regret' having sex with. THe idea that this behavior is widespread is nonsensical on its face.</I><BR/>There are several well documented reasons why women sometimes lie about rape. "Regret" would be one of the lesser ones. If your default position is to assume women won't lie any examination of the issue you provide is bound to be flawed. Your mind is already closed. Your own actions enable false accusers who in turn do immense damage to your cause. <BR/><BR/><BR/>Anonymous @8:43:00 PM said... <BR/><I>I very much doubt my view will change, I know who is responsible for the false charges and it isn't the Group of 88, affirmative action or rape support services.<BR/>Your problem is you can't separate legal issues from moral issues or societal issues.</I><BR/><BR/>Unfortunately it is those things you mention which create the climate in which this mess occured. Without idealogues such as the G88, without AA, without gender feminist involvement in rape support services none of this happens to begin with. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Anonymous @9:13:00 PM said... <BR/><I>My guess is Levicy is going to stick to her story...Mangun seemed like a rape victim to her...</I><BR/>Personally I believe CGM is a rape victim but that it happened a long time ago and she seriously needs to get help for it. Wonder what did lead to the allegation when she was seventeen? <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Victoria Peterson is an absolute disgrace.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-37017045636641051642007-06-13T05:49:00.000-04:002007-06-13T05:49:00.000-04:00Unfortunately, Nifong is an elected official and t...Unfortunately, Nifong is an elected official and thus can't be terminated by the City. Not so for staff and officers however. The only way Nifong is leaving the DA's office is by being disbarred, which I think is now a foregone conclusion.<BR/><BR/>Having dealt with him on an almost daily basis for a few years in traffic court, (and having decided to stop practicing there due to Nifong's low grade tyranny), a few observations mat help put his bizarre behavior in perspective:<BR/><BR/>If I could describe Nifong in a sentence, based on my interactions with him, I'd do so by saying he is a narcissistic bully. The truth of any given matter was always secondary to how Nifong felt about you as the attorney handling the case. In traffic court, his favored attorneys got deals others of us could only dream about while we, as often as not, had our feet held to the fire over silly little things, or, in my instance, made special rules about WHEN we could negotiate with him. For instance, in my case, because I typically had a good number of traffic cases in district court, Nifong informed me that he wouldnt negotiate them with me during court because the time spent doing my business caused other attorneys to have to wait. Thus, I was made to schedule appointments with him after court hours to do so, which caused me to both have to attend Court AND then return in the afternoons to negotiate tickets at his convenience. Given I was from out of county, it was simply a not so subtle way of making my continued practice in Durham inconvenient. After years of this acceding to this treatment, Nifong decided to simply refuse to negotiate cases with me, based no less on some completely concocted allegation of unethical behavior on my part, effectively precluding me from making a living in Durham traffic court.<BR/><BR/>I say this not for your sympathy, but rather to give you some idea of the man's psyche. To Nifong, dispensing justice is all about personalities, not Truth, about ego, not fair dealing. I'm convinced the biggest (sort-term) mistake the Duke defendants made was to hire Joe Chesire and Kirk Osborne, both extremely fine attorneys who Nifong had a visceral dislike for. Given their presence in the case, it became for Nifong a game, a contest of egos, and the truth of the matter irrelevant. Luckily, given the integrity and competence of attorneys like Cheshire and Osborne, the truth wasn't lost in the process.<BR/><BR/>Remember as well that Nifong had essentially had his own little fiefdom in traffic court, where "justice" is always subjective and his will was gospel. I think this lulled him into the illusion that the same dynamic was in play in Criminal Superior Court, where he thught he could bully defendants in the same manner he has gotten away with for so long in District traffic court, where Jim Hardin and local judges gave him free reign. <BR/><BR/>I think if you look at it this way, it makes all of nifong's otherwise inexplicable actions intelligible. <BR/><BR/>Suffice it to say that theres no place in the justice system for the hubris of someone like Nifong, and it was only a matter of time before it all caught up with him.<BR/><BR/>Couldnt have happened to a nicer, more deserving guy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19057830671616991412007-06-13T05:31:00.000-04:002007-06-13T05:31:00.000-04:00This may surprise you but police officers are trai...This may surprise you but police officers are trained to NOT participate in frames designed by superiors. They have plenty of ways to expose a frame and not lose their jobs. This SOB was an enabler a la G88 but with axtual power.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-32928891320369562562007-06-13T00:35:00.000-04:002007-06-13T00:35:00.000-04:00I know that today is the first of five days of tes...I know that today is the first of five days of testimony on this matter, but what was revealed today places Nifong and the others involved in the investigation in a bad light. If the next few days continue to follow the same path, then I foresee the following happening:<BR/><BR/>1. The city of Durham asking for his resignation, or if he refuses, that he is terminated, regardless of the outcome of the hearing.<BR/>2. Termination of the officers that were involved in the investigation, including members of Nifong's staff.<BR/>3. Civil lawsuits by the three lacrosse players, against the City of Durham, Duke University and the individuals involved in the investigation. I also see the former Lacrosse coach filing suit against Duke for his termination.<BR/>4. A review of all cases that Nifong prosecuted while in the DA's office by either the State AG's or the Feds.<BR/>5. Finally, if recommended by the hearing, and acted upon by the AG or the Feds, criminal charges against Nifong and his cronies for their actions in this case (maybe civil rights violations?).<BR/><BR/>I hate to say this, but Nifong and his group make the LAPD and the DA's office during the OJ trial looks like legal scholars. Maybe Gil Garcetti is available to replace the 'Fong in Durham?fmfnavydochttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10714903349176056488noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-64446536239984078352007-06-12T23:40:00.000-04:002007-06-12T23:40:00.000-04:00himan is alleged fitting his testimony to the fact...himan is alleged fitting his testimony to the facts ...of what happened that we are exposed on this pages<BR/><BR/>remember that wilson alleged did the same thing with the magnum testimony...crafting the questions to the facts being brought out by the defense and the alternative media<BR/><BR/>remember after accusing the three, she forgot...<BR/><BR/>how timely to fit the press reportsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18807445116256016232007-06-12T23:39:00.000-04:002007-06-12T23:39:00.000-04:00[Michael - that is a load of Bravo Sierra. Some of...[Michael - that is a load of Bravo Sierra. Some of us have jobs that deal with disaster, tragedy and help save people's lives, everyday. Of course, soneone who signs Michael(who and how do we reach you) would not understand that. Do tell of your moment, when you stood up and Blew the Whistle. Jack the Ripper ]<BR/><BR/>I have a pretty hard time understanding your problem. That particular anonymous asked if someone has put their job on the line standing up to someone else. The comment on your jobs seems to me to be orthogonal to the point of standing up to someone like your boss to risk losing your job.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11381497683202091939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34505955449421157452007-06-12T23:35:00.000-04:002007-06-12T23:35:00.000-04:00Damn! There are so many comments today my computer...Damn! There are so many comments today my computer is choaking. KC must be pleased.<BR/><BR/>mac 9:04 said... <BR/><BR/>...I wonder how Levicy's story will<BR/>have evolved by tomorrow morning?<BR/>If she was going to testify for<BR/>Nifong, she must be aware that<BR/>she's attached her horse to a<BR/>burning cart.<BR/>::<BR/>That is a great visual.<BR/>Thanks.<BR/><BR/>Suppose Nifong thought he was attaching his horse to her cart?<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62126890514835930912007-06-12T23:17:00.000-04:002007-06-12T23:17:00.000-04:00Michael - that is a load of Bravo Sierra. Some of ...Michael - that is a load of Bravo Sierra. Some of us have jobs that deal with disaster, tragedy and help save people's lives, everyday. Of course, soneone who signs Michael(who and how do we reach you) would not understand that. Do tell of your moment, when you stood up and Blew the Whistle. Jack the RipperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3493419086357007722007-06-12T23:12:00.000-04:002007-06-12T23:12:00.000-04:0010:34--You're right. When do you see any black per...10:34--You're right. When do you see any black person spending the time taking care of fundamental issues like family? Whether or not you live in Durham, you get an education in what black affirmative action has done to the country.<BR/>Poeple like Victoria Peterson are all over Durham. She just spends the time mugging for a camera constantly.<BR/><BR/>It's very funny when some try to say that this case was not always about race.<BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>\Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18443100044852819252007-06-12T23:06:00.000-04:002007-06-12T23:06:00.000-04:00Mac, you're so hot and witty. Is that what turns ...Mac, you're so hot and witty. Is that what turns Debrah on about you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78035879459835200532007-06-12T22:44:00.000-04:002007-06-12T22:44:00.000-04:00I believe so. The answer to every question from At...I believe so. The answer to every question from Attorney Smith and Det Himan. Whatever happened to a firm yes or no answer? What a damn jokeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-61837126478792281992007-06-12T22:34:00.001-04:002007-06-12T22:34:00.001-04:00Common sense has gone out the window, the woman wa...Common sense has gone out the window, the woman was sitting in a courtroom listening to yet another law enforcement officer say that Mangum was lying and no rape took place but she can't get off her agenda long enough to pay attention and has to stick it to the mother by saying people in Durham still think her son is guilty.<BR/><BR/>Trash. She's trash. She belongs in Durham with all the rest of the race baiters who are so busy ranting about racism they forget to noice their neighborhood is knee deep in gang violence and poverty. Go figure.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50031283022475899302007-06-12T22:34:00.000-04:002007-06-12T22:34:00.000-04:00In the wake of Officer Himan's testimony, I don't ...In the wake of Officer Himan's testimony, I don't see how he can continue to be a police officer. I have posted some thoughts on this here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.greeneggsandbacon.blogspot.com/William Jockuschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16167669449804194308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24159489979308496542007-06-12T22:29:00.000-04:002007-06-12T22:29:00.000-04:00More on the Victoria Peterson problemMore details ...<A HREF="http://www.newsobserver.com/news/crime_safety/duke_lacrosse/story/601252.html" REL="nofollow">More on the Victoria Peterson problem</A><BR/><BR/>More details on what she said to Mrs. Finnerty. Don't read it if you have high blood pressure.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11381497683202091939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34099266977394112952007-06-12T22:11:00.000-04:002007-06-12T22:11:00.000-04:00What a glorious day!What a glorious day!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-64252049668441728212007-06-12T22:00:00.000-04:002007-06-12T22:00:00.000-04:00how do I know he crooked? you gotta be kiddin? he ...how do I know he crooked? you gotta be kiddin? he willingly participated in the Frame of three innocnent men. He went to a GJ and helped indict an man he KNEW was innocent! and no, I wouldn't want him to resign and give up his thirty pieces of silver.<BR/><BR/>unrealAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47794660496109620772007-06-12T21:41:00.000-04:002007-06-12T21:41:00.000-04:00Himan is no hero with his testimony today. He play...Himan is no hero with his testimony today. He played along with the hoax until he was put under sworn testimony and knew he had better be truthful. He has a lot more info to offer if he is pressured. Remember he was one of the 2 detectives who entered Edens Dorm, without a warrant, that requires card id entry, behind a female student that had just entered,in an attempt to interview lacrosse players. Himan is young and goes with flow and today the flow was about telling the truth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28133002943954934352007-06-12T21:38:00.000-04:002007-06-12T21:38:00.000-04:00I have this picture of Mike Nifong as Hitler in hi...I have this picture of Mike Nifong as Hitler in his bunker after October 20th, insanely plotting how he was goign foil his enemies even as things were unraveling more each day...sending out Wilson to dummy up more fake testimony from Mangum, trying to weave all his lies together, mumbling 'they don't know my timeline' over and over again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com