tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post760025231662116590..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Araton: No Apologieskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18718942256615471812007-04-24T23:36:00.000-04:002007-04-24T23:36:00.000-04:00dealer's choicedealer's choiceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18031433814682249212007-04-24T22:53:00.000-04:002007-04-24T22:53:00.000-04:00Not a bad idea ... Wide awake or unconscious?Not a bad idea ... <BR/><BR/>Wide awake or unconscious?E-mail:https://www.blogger.com/profile/05104865182873148411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-69294312341244536412007-04-24T22:52:00.000-04:002007-04-24T22:52:00.000-04:00CarolynThank you, it's just unfortunate that it's ...Carolyn<BR/>Thank you, it's just unfortunate that it's true!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72931612198181861902007-04-24T22:28:00.000-04:002007-04-24T22:28:00.000-04:00how about beheading it after it's reached full ere...how about beheading it after it's reached full erection?<BR/><BR/>PolanskiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84866122049428418222007-04-24T20:38:00.000-04:002007-04-24T20:38:00.000-04:00To 1:30, who said "...the rape of a name is also a...To 1:30, who said "...the rape of a name is also a rape. A false accusation of rape can be as devastating to a man and his family as a real rape can be to a woman and her family. Sometimes a real rape is more destructive; sometimes the rape of a name is more destructive. It is therefore a grave injustice not to prosecute the woman who brought these false charges".<BR/><BR/>Okay, that being said, what should the penalty be for a man who RAPES a woman? I'm not referring to casual "hook up and binge drinking" stuff. I'm talking about "real" rape. Do you think a "rapist" should be castrated?E-mail:https://www.blogger.com/profile/05104865182873148411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52641882010123504302007-04-24T19:27:00.000-04:002007-04-24T19:27:00.000-04:00KC, I'm still concerned that you're taking a "he w...KC, I'm still concerned that you're taking a "he who was not with us in April 2006 will always be against us" attitude.<BR/><BR/>I'm not defending Araton here. But I will defend Feinstein, whose piece includes the following:<BR/><BR/>- He laments: "Mike Pressler, the coach, who according to Duke's own report was the one adult on campus who took some action after the (2004) report, was fired."<BR/><BR/>- "Once all 46 players had been DNA-tested and no DNA from any of them showed up on the accuser's body, Brodhead should have allowed the season to continue." (If he's contradicting something he wrote a year ago, I'll agree he should say so.)<BR/><BR/>- "Surely Duke -- which is so flush it has more money than it knows what to do with -- should pay every penny of their legal expenses." (The only question I have on those lines is whether such a move would affect any remaining NCAA lacrosse eligibility.)<BR/><BR/>I want to think that you're going to write the accurate record that this sordid affair so desperately deserves. I think you have good intentions. But I'm worried that you're writing it, perhaps subconsciously, for the anti-Dukies and political slogan-shouters who've gathered around your blog.<BR/><BR/>There are thousands of us who always doubted Nifong and are irritated, in varying degrees and specifics, with Duke's response. We're just not going to go along with the dogma here. Example: We're not buying the "American Psycho" excuse on the McFadyen e-mail, but we accept his apology and are happy to see him on the team again.<BR/><BR/>Bottom line: Those of us who were "right" last year should really get over ourselves.<BR/><BR/>I'd love to see you publicly address this concern. It might increase the size of the choir to which you're preaching.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20668441152170204732007-04-24T18:17:00.000-04:002007-04-24T18:17:00.000-04:00Carolyn says:"Nifong's Hat Trick" - your comment i...Carolyn says:<BR/><BR/>"Nifong's Hat Trick" - your comment is priceless. <BR/><BR/>"Only in Wonderland, would the politically correct expect us to believe that banning offensive words shows sensitivity, yet banning abortion does not."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20913988789512298282007-04-24T18:03:00.000-04:002007-04-24T18:03:00.000-04:00To 9:05, who said "...The civil rights movement di...To 9:05, who said "...The civil rights movement didn't seem able to just argue that blacks were good and bad, and that they still should be afforded their rights. No, the civil rights movement argued that blacks were morally superior to whites".<BR/><BR/>That is simply not true.<BR/><BR/>And to Debrah (the real brain who knows everthing):<BR/>Sheryl Crowe's comment was a "joke". How can you not know that?! You get grosser with each passing day!E-mail:https://www.blogger.com/profile/05104865182873148411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1402377137702845412007-04-24T17:50:00.000-04:002007-04-24T17:50:00.000-04:00There's a wonderful nude of Crow on the 'Net--look...There's a wonderful nude of Crow on the 'Net--looks like she's a sweet 21 or so--sitting at a lake with her legs slihtly open<BR/><BR/>(is that her labia? yes! i think it is. God is great)<BR/><BR/>PolanskiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-14082196111172459322007-04-24T17:41:00.000-04:002007-04-24T17:41:00.000-04:00I know this is a bit off topic, but a followup on ...I know this is a bit off topic, but a followup on the latest from crooner Sheryl Crow. <BR/><BR/>Let me just say that I'm all for 3 squares a day, and in her own way, so is the shameless Ms. Crow. <BR/><BR/>For a hearty chuckle, check this out:<BR/><BR/>http://www.washtimes.com/national/pruden.htmAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-8744371141630355372007-04-24T17:11:00.000-04:002007-04-24T17:11:00.000-04:00Would it be considered insensitive for me to nickn...Would it be considered insensitive for me to nickname that NYT commentator:<BR/><BR/>"A-Rat"?<BR/><BR/><BR/>Sure hope so!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-91942140832873639942007-04-24T16:29:00.000-04:002007-04-24T16:29:00.000-04:00The real beauty of all of this Araton nonsense is ...The real beauty of all of this Araton nonsense is that remarks like his no longer go unnoticed or unchallenged because of the internet and bloggers like KC who seek out the truth.<BR/><BR/>The other beauty is our freedom of speech. Remarks like Araton's should remind all of us why even the most offensive speech should be protected. If it's not, then we invite the thought police to tell us what we can and can not say. We need to relearn how to fight words with words, not with word bans. <BR/><BR/>Only in Wonderland, would the politically correct expect us to believe that banning offensive words shows sensitivity, yet banning abortion does not.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53380556954331335632007-04-24T16:26:00.000-04:002007-04-24T16:26:00.000-04:00Debrah,I could not have said it better. My latest ...Debrah,<BR/><BR/>I could not have said it better. My latest resolution: NEVER shake hands with Sheryl Crow - you just never know where that ol' guitar's been!<BR/><BR/>Think we can expect reactions from Ann Coulter or perhaps Andrea Peyser on the subject? s/b hillaryous!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62913753119967612732007-04-24T16:06:00.000-04:002007-04-24T16:06:00.000-04:00What part of IT DIDN'T HAPPEN do these idjits not ...What part of IT DIDN'T HAPPEN do these idjits not understand?<BR/><BR/>Is their grievance so integrally precious to them that even if it means flying in the face of reality, they are going to maintain their dopey views?<BR/><BR/>I am, I must admit, appalled by the mindsets of far too many in a position to make statements that will impact the conversation.Gayle Millerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09223914127626675167noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72257830348616199162007-04-24T14:58:00.000-04:002007-04-24T14:58:00.000-04:00Yuck!Just the thought of using only one sheet of b...Yuck!<BR/><BR/>Just the thought of using only one sheet of bath tissue makes me heave. Does Sheryl Crowe use her hand to clean after the elimination process...or something?<BR/><BR/>Personally, I use bath tissue in the loo and paper towels in the kitchen like water.....prolificly. And I don't intend to stop.<BR/><BR/>I like CLEAN. Finito!<BR/><BR/>No wonder Lance Armstrong got rid of her. She's a nut!<BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-2698402391017280842007-04-24T13:10:00.000-04:002007-04-24T13:10:00.000-04:00Just returned from a 10 day hiatus from DIW and mo...Just returned from a 10 day hiatus from DIW and most of the news from MSM. Some things have changed, but most haven't. Here's what I see:<BR/><BR/>My early amusement with the Don Imus comments coming back to bite him has turned to anger and disgust. This is a story where in my mind the punishment in no way fits the crime - not by a long shot (are you with me, OJ?). <BR/><BR/>I am also sickened by the fact that "Tawana" Sharpton and "Heimie Town" Jackson, those self-deputized members of Rosie "The Spew" O'Donnell's "thought police", have managed to take away my right to accept the numerous Imus apologies and listen to his show if and when I choose. My only hope is that good trumps evil in this newest train wreck, and that Imus returns to the airways, a little bent, but not broken. <BR/><BR/>I see that the latest purveyor of NYT of "all the spews thats fit to print" is one Harvey Araton. This latest gutless wonder should take an invaluable lesson in character judgemet from the Duke lacrosse "gals", but so far that prospect is about as likely as a snowstorm in Nicaragua. Fair enough - let Mr. Aragon consider a name "makeover" more emblematic of his chararcter. Consider: "Arat", or "Aratondrugs" <BR/><BR/>Lastly, I find Sheryl Crow on a new toilet paper rationing mission that has Rosie O'Donnell screaming something like "has Sheryl Crow seen my ass?" I suggest Arat take one for the team and cover that one for us. He seems to have a nose for that kind of thing.joe sweethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11984964602100820626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-9229726539820187652007-04-24T13:02:00.000-04:002007-04-24T13:02:00.000-04:00It's interesting that Araton would point to Feinst...It's interesting that Araton would point to Feinstein's piece in his defense, because--despite some dissing of the lax team and some factual errors (those noted by an earlier poster, plus Feinstein's idea that the notorious McFadyen e-mail was sent out "in the wake of the arrests," as if it were intended to threaten the accuser--when in fact, the e-mail was sent the night of the party, before its author or anyone else had the slightest idea that a rape accusation would be made)--the piece states that, by the time the women's lacrosse team was wearing armbands, everyone at the university should have known that the charges were bogus and the men's lacrosse team should have been allowed to play. <BR/><BR/>Under the circumstances, the women's demonstration of support--which clearly focused on the rape charges, rather than on any claim that the men's lacrosse players were "heroes" or "choir boys," is presumably something that Feinstein would approve of, rather than criticize. <BR/><BR/>To me, the most offensive part of Araton's piece (and other articles criticizing the women's team) was the infantilizing of the women--the idea that, because they disagreed with Araton, they must be childish and stupid. I disagreed with Araton then, as I do now, and I am neither childish nor stupid (though I can get a bit ornery at times).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50018040163557959112007-04-24T12:03:00.000-04:002007-04-24T12:03:00.000-04:00Had Araton made these remarks today about the fema...Had Araton made these remarks today about the female Lax team, I would hope that the uproar would get him fired. The problem - whites shrug this stuff off. This is as bad as Imus and the basketball team.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-40955427025197802672007-04-24T11:24:00.001-04:002007-04-24T11:24:00.001-04:00I followed the link to the Feinstein article. I h...I followed the link to the Feinstein article. I have generally liked the stuff he has written. After reading the article, I have to ask: Where is he getting his facts? At this point, it is pretty clear that the racist comments at the party were made in response to racist comments by Kim Roberts Pittman. That doesn't excuse the comments, but it does put them in some perspective. Moreover, noone has pointed to any discplinary problems on the part of Reade Seligmann at Duke. And, for all of the talk about the dust-up in DC that Collin Finnerty was involved in, the judge made it clear by his ruling that he didn't think he was getting the whole story, even from the "victim." Finally, the team captains have apologized for their lack of judgment. I am mystified as to Feinstein's continued attack on the three defendants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-25952404021649802792007-04-24T11:24:00.000-04:002007-04-24T11:24:00.000-04:00I followed the link to the Feinstein article. I h...I followed the link to the Feinstein article. I have generally liked the stuff he has written. After reading the article, I have to ask: Where is he getting his facts? At this point, it is pretty clear that the racist comments at the party were made in response to racist comments by Kim Roberts Pittman. That doesn't excuse the comments, but it does put them in some perspective. Moreover, noone has pointed to any discplinary problems on the part of Reade Seligmann at Duke. And, for all of the talk about the dust-up in DC that Collin Finnerty was involved in, the judge made it clear by his ruling that he didn't think he was getting the whole story, even from the "victim." Finally, the team captains have apologized for their lack of judgment. I am mystified as to Feinstein's continued attack on the three defendants.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-42448591131515630802007-04-24T09:51:00.000-04:002007-04-24T09:51:00.000-04:00Arogant Araton.Arogant Araton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48108086925820602822007-04-24T09:39:00.000-04:002007-04-24T09:39:00.000-04:00Re: Araton.KC: I truly hope you and Stuart will ab...Re: Araton.<BR/><BR/>KC: I truly hope you and Stuart will absolutely smoke out idiots like Araton in your book. Morons like Araton deserve to be called out and exposed for the shrill, agenda-driven, biased, venal vermin that they are. To be sure, this might only draw attention to Araton that, paradoxically, he might perversely enjoy. That said, given the likely widespread readership that your book will attract, it's probably a risk worth taking. Araton's own words reveal a shockingly small and closed mind.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-13762347252262149752007-04-24T09:16:00.000-04:002007-04-24T09:16:00.000-04:00"White people still murder us with impunity. White..."White people still murder us with impunity. White people still beat us with impunity. White people still rape us and get away with it." <BR/><BR/>Hey, never let any actual facts get in the way of a good racist argument, fella. The facts show that white on black crime is relatively rare, especially compared to the near-epidemic proportions of black on black crime, and white on black rape is nearly unheard of (except for a few well-publicized hoaxes). Crystal Mangum was not raped by white men -- as an abundance of physical and DNA evidence proved beyond doubt. Mangum was just a drug-addled hooker who made up a racist lie about rape to get out of the drunk tank, and possibly score some more drugs in the ER. Tawana Brawley was a teenager who lied about rape so that she could avoid another beating from her black mother for missing her curfew. The Brawley grand jury documented Brawley's mother's habit of punching her daughter in the face when the daughter misbehaved. I suppose this is whitey's fault too, right?<BR/><BR/>"On March 13, 2006, some forty affluent white men solicited the presence of two black women on (former) plantation property for the explicit purposes of racially denigrating, disrespecting, and exploiting them. . ."<BR/><BR/>Oops, another factual error spoils your favorite meta-narrative. The lacrosse players solicited two white women, not blacks, for their strip show. When blacks showed up, the players paid them anyway (though they were disappointed), undoubtedly out of a sense of political correctness. Oh, the irony.<BR/><BR/>"The ‘facts’ of the case should not matter to us . . . ."<BR/><BR/>Yes, you've made that abundantly clear. Facts never matter to people like you. Facts don't support your twisted world view. Facts get in the way of all your rationalizations for your pathetic, self-pitying existence.<BR/><BR/>"Black men, stand up. Black women, stand up. Black children, stand up. We have been at war here with these same white people for 500 years." <BR/><BR/>Take a look at the recent depraved murders in Knoxville, TN, of two white students from the Univ. of Tennessee. This young man and woman were raped, beaten, tortured, mutilated, and murdered by a gang of blacks -- undoubtedly people who share your view of themselves as whitey's perpetual victims. Happy now? Looks like you are a "success" after all. I'm sure your mama (you remember her, the one you punched) would be so proud.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-74484071688483847212007-04-24T09:05:00.000-04:002007-04-24T09:05:00.000-04:00Liberalism really has become a religion. What bet...Liberalism really has become a religion. What better proof than this horrible episode? Public genuflection before the race/class/sex religion is now a job prerequisite. This is true, not only in academia, but in the arts. Fealty to doofus Marxism is expected and demanded in these fields.<BR/><BR/>The need to create martyrs drove this farce. The same process is at work as the left struggles to deify homosexuals as sainted martyrs. Crime statistics do not support the notion of a wave of hate crimes against gays. Solution. Heavy handed propaganda films, like "Brokeback Mountain" that portray gays as sainted martyrs struggling against violent and bigoted straight men. <BR/><BR/>The process is always the same. Build the mythology of martyrdom so that only a mean spirited, hard hearted bastard could possibly oppose the left's aims. The mythology of the sainted black martyr was built on Hollywood films that literally and relentlessly defamed southern white men as violent racists. The civil rights movement didn't seem able to just argue that blacks were good and bad, and that they still should be afforded their rights. No, the civil rights movement argued that blacks were morally superior to whites. We are living now with the consequences of all the phony dramatization and fake martyrdom.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46035959412271008072007-04-24T09:04:00.000-04:002007-04-24T09:04:00.000-04:00Like most of the country, I'd never heard of Harve...Like most of the country, I'd never heard of Harvey Araton before. His name is distinctive, however, and I'll always associate it in the future with "left-wing shill."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com