tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post7674927775288681619..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: ATAF and Characterkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger60125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58239820347411046692007-02-12T20:26:00.000-05:002007-02-12T20:26:00.000-05:00The cost of defending their innocent sons approach...<I>The cost of defending their innocent sons approaches five million dollars combined.</I><BR/><BR/>Not to re-hash an old argument, but anybody who thinks that the defense attorneys are eager to abandon this kind of revenue stream is blind, deaf, dumb....and definitely not an American.<BR/><BR/>The players are innocent, and the defense attorneys seem to be doing the tactical part of their job pretty well (although it'd be hard to screw this case up). But given their total compliance in the prosecution's delays, I strongly suspect that they're greedily milking these families (and now the generous donors) for every possible penny.White Bonerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05745983403055912381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24359294511821016462007-02-11T18:13:00.000-05:002007-02-11T18:13:00.000-05:007:31amESAD, you petty-piling-on pig!7:31am<BR/><BR/>ESAD, you petty-piling-on pig!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-67360766845496767902007-02-11T07:31:00.000-05:002007-02-11T07:31:00.000-05:00You guys forgot the duke lacrosse player that was ...You guys forgot the duke lacrosse player that was drunk and had a pot bong in the car and was caught in Chapel Hill about 6 weeks into the case. He was charged with DUI and Drug parenphenilia.<BR/><BR/>why am I surprised?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79337580915152324452007-02-11T02:27:00.000-05:002007-02-11T02:27:00.000-05:00but IF donations from Duke alumni to the defense f...<I>but IF donations from Duke alumni to the defense fund instead of Duke meet or exceed legal costs AND there is good prospect of hefty, major lawsuits coming - is this the best use of my charitable dollars??</I><BR/><BR/>My personal view, as a non-Duke alum, would be that the most effective donations to the fund would be those made by Duke alumni, with voided copies of their checks being included in responses to donation solicitations from the university.<BR/><BR/>Were I a Duke alum, I would send all donations to anti-Angry-Studies groups (ATAF or otherwise) until Duke had cleaned up its act; the exoneration of the students would not end the diversion of my money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73041879194557139222007-02-11T01:09:00.000-05:002007-02-11T01:09:00.000-05:00Is brodhead still in place???SWEET JESUS!!!Trinity...Is brodhead still in place???<BR/><BR/>SWEET JESUS!!!<BR/><BR/>Trinity60Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31119386085446400662007-02-10T23:20:00.000-05:002007-02-10T23:20:00.000-05:009:12 At first I thought it appropriate to get the ...9:12 At first I thought it appropriate to get the AG involved, but I'm more of a states rights kind of guy and think NC needs to work this out themselves.<BR/><BR/>We must have confidence that the system works. Having the AG jump in now is not healthy.<BR/><BR/>Having said that, I hope the boys are exonerated fully, and fast. And I hope they do not negotiate any settlement that keeps them from exposing those that abetted this fiasco.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-23169090244439426162007-02-10T23:00:00.000-05:002007-02-10T23:00:00.000-05:00To 9:12Email petitions carry absolutely no weight ...To 9:12<BR/>Email petitions carry absolutely no weight with any governmental entity. If they even see it, they's just hit the "delete" button. Petitions in general are only effective if the signatures and address are verifiable as residents/citizens or voters. You're wasting your time getting a bunch of people to sign and forward petitions to Cooper or Easley or Gonzales via email. A personal letter carries some weight--try it.<BR/>Outerbanx PhantomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73683026106644631552007-02-10T22:28:00.000-05:002007-02-10T22:28:00.000-05:00re: 7:42Good news for sure. How did they get at th...re: 7:42<BR/><BR/>Good news for sure. How did they get at the current and former prosecutors? I hope Coman is paying attention.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11381497683202091939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35402081816534956462007-02-10T22:16:00.000-05:002007-02-10T22:16:00.000-05:00I gave ATAF $100, no questions asked. I'd be will...I gave ATAF $100, no questions asked. I'd be willing to fork over a little more if they would sell shares in the civil suits. That is, if the lawyers get 1/3 and I pay for the lawyers fees, shouldn't I get my cut?<BR/><BR/>Justice ain't free. That is no joke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62281307765046553202007-02-10T21:54:00.000-05:002007-02-10T21:54:00.000-05:00Here is how you make permalinks:<a href="url"&g...Here is how you make permalinks:<BR/><BR/><a href="<B>url</B>"><B>text to display</B></a><BR/><BR/>replace <B>url</B> with: <BR/>http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2007/02/duke-fever.html<BR/>leave the quote marks <BR/><BR/>replace <B>text to display</B><BR/>with <BR/>Duke Fever<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://powerandcontrol.blogspot.com/2007/02/duke-fever.html" REL="nofollow">Duke Fever</A>M. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09508934110558197375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79303431388565262202007-02-10T21:41:00.000-05:002007-02-10T21:41:00.000-05:00KCWhat an important post thank you.They say somet...KC<BR/>What an important post thank you.<BR/>They say sometimes in life its the struggle that makes the man<BR/>I believe that the duke lacrosse team , their families and friends have shown what character is.<BR/>the young man wrote in his letter<BR/>"our justice system"<BR/>"their fight for truth and justice"<BR/>Made my head swim , his call for ME to join in what that young man rightly called OUR fight.<BR/>I thought of MLK <BR/>calling the nation to rightessness<BR/>To the "leaders" popoing the fundraising <BR/>cause the families are "rich"<BR/>Beyond contempable.<BR/>In life its usually the minority who set the tone.<BR/>And the duke cause will help all the helpless i believe. Cause it matters , courage does.<BR/>It gives hope to that black mother in durham whos son is rotting in jail cause he had to settle cause the powerful people said so. Those "leaders" huh?<BR/>Im sending a check and a prayer and im waiting for my duke lacrosse hoody to wear proudly in san francisco.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16592661862303068229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72106651101535157302007-02-10T21:12:00.000-05:002007-02-10T21:12:00.000-05:00The accused are STILL facing 30-year prison terms....The accused are STILL facing 30-year prison terms. And there still exists the very real possibility that the Special Prosecutors now assigned to examine the case are primarily focused on still finding SOME KIND OF CHARGE to get this case to trial, and not on a search for justice.<BR/><BR/>The lacrosse case is a political trial; and in political trials, noise counts. If you want to get involved in helping raise the noise level (and maybe saving three innocent defendants from wrongful conviction, and an entire town/county from a corrupt oligarchy); please sign the following; and if you could find space to mention this somewhere, it could be a great help :<BR/><BR/>Petition to Attorney General Cooper of North Carolina to end the hoax :<BR/><BR/>http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/208340697<BR/><BR/>Petition to the Public Integrity Section of the Justice Department to investigate<BR/>corruption in the Durham city administration :<BR/><BR/>http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/465788496<BR/><BR/>Petition to Attorney General Gonzales to investigate civil rights violations and hate crimes in the Duke lacrosse case :<BR/><BR/>http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/728631166Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4707743103127528322007-02-10T20:58:00.000-05:002007-02-10T20:58:00.000-05:00OK Cedarford, they are not asking hungry children ...OK Cedarford, they are not asking hungry children to donate their milk money. <BR/>MTU'76Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-85571200057689366972007-02-10T20:20:00.000-05:002007-02-10T20:20:00.000-05:00Debra 6:52, you are absolutely correct. Beth Brew...Debra 6:52, you are absolutely correct. Beth Brewer knew exactly what she was doing. She knew that the Courts would drag their ass on this complaint, but they cannot do it without the exposure you referenced in your post. They are racist thugs in judicial cloaks. Their days are short.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62313518935721498242007-02-10T19:56:00.000-05:002007-02-10T19:56:00.000-05:007:42PM - Sweet!7:42PM - Sweet!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51424404785887194842007-02-10T19:42:00.000-05:002007-02-10T19:42:00.000-05:00off topic a bit but heres a guy in new orleans who...off topic a bit but heres a guy in new orleans who just missed the death penalty, spent 18 years in jail. he just got a judgement for 14 million against orleans parish and former prosecuters<A HREF="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17075302/?GT1=9033" REL="nofollow">judgement day</A>james conradhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06580947338940209533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83295320677862082472007-02-10T19:26:00.000-05:002007-02-10T19:26:00.000-05:00Democrats rule, Dude! Can't wait until they have a...Democrats rule, Dude! Can't wait until they have all the power in the government! Then things will be sweet!<BR/><BR/>Fire away, loons - the red meat has been tossed. Red as in commie, get it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-91961887660876794322007-02-10T18:54:00.000-05:002007-02-10T18:54:00.000-05:00Anonymous 4:46 PM said... " Duke Extortion Conspi...Anonymous 4:46 PM <BR/><BR/> said... <BR/>" Duke Extortion Conspiracy " <BR/><BR/>Yes, for starters.<BR/><BR/>Hostile work environment harassment on campus is another.Gary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-32979128688690238142007-02-10T18:52:00.000-05:002007-02-10T18:52:00.000-05:00The thread covering the move to remove Nifong seem...The thread covering the move to remove Nifong seems to have had very few comments so I am revisiting the issue here.<BR/><BR/>Although the filing of the petition was covered well by the local press, initially, it was very brief. No surprise, really.....given that Orlando Hudson is the judge who will hear the case.<BR/><BR/>He said that he would wait for the State Bar to resolve its ethics case against Nifong before taking up the petition.<BR/><BR/>How novel. How very predictable. Well, big bad Orlando, that won't be until JUNE!!! <BR/><BR/>If only there were a different judge in place perhaps what needs to be done in this case would finally be done: Get Mike Nifong the hell out of any position of authority.<BR/><BR/>It bears repeating over and over and over.......Orlando would move his big butt like lightning and remove anyone who has performed the way in which Nifong has if we were talking about black men accused of a crime.<BR/><BR/>That's why Durham is famous for its revolving door down at the courthouse. If you're a criminal or a rapist or a drug dealer in Durham.....and if you're black......"no problema, hombre". You'll be back out on the streets in no time.<BR/><BR/>I got my fill of the abstruse and banal Orlando Hudson during the high profile Peterson case.<BR/><BR/>He's got the charisma and the appeal of a gnat caught on a piece of ice at an outdoor picnic.<BR/><BR/>He'd be running about and sweating like a girl in a gymnastics class if he could remove a DA for going after some brothas.<BR/><BR/>That's the scum of Durham and it's hideous beyond measure. I am perplexed as to how anyone living in the Triangle for any length of time would have believed that filing a petition such as this in Durham would have played out any differently than it has.<BR/><BR/>Durham will have to have justice rammed down their racist throats before all this is over.<BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49438878992117659852007-02-10T18:51:00.000-05:002007-02-10T18:51:00.000-05:00From the American Heritage Dictionary:Hoax: Someth...From the American Heritage Dictionary:<BR/><BR/>Hoax: Something that has been established or accepted by fraudulent means. <BR/><BR/>Seems an appropriate term...<BR/><BR/>--Lumpy GravyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-61233275448037721332007-02-10T18:25:00.000-05:002007-02-10T18:25:00.000-05:00I think the critics of this effort miss the point ...I think the critics of this effort miss the point and fail to understand the purpose of the Association for Truth and Fairness. Supporting this cause and highlighting the gross miscarriage of justice in Durham will serve many purposes. <BR/><BR/>First, it will put renegade, win at all costs prosecutors on notice that this behavior is not tolerated. Second, it will hopefully bring about legislation to ensure this type of malicious prosecution never happens to ANYONE ever again.<BR/><BR/>The UNC article highlights many miscarriages of our justice system that are troubling and unfortunate. It is sad many of these individuals did not have the resources to defend themselves, or have friends with the passion and resources to start a similar effort to the ATAF.<BR/><BR/>The hypocrisy of these critics is laughable, I think the NAACP and other causes missed an important opportunity to further their cause by highlighting and expressing outrage at this perversion of our justice system, it would give immense publicity and credibility to their efforts. Their opposition to the ATAF and dropping of the charges further discredits their cause and credibility in my opinion.<BR/><BR/>Supporting the Association for Truth and Fairness will serve to highlight prosecutorial abuse and hopefully work to ensure this type of injustice never happens to any American, black or white, poor or rich, ever again.<BR/><BR/>WWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-91651213513049047082007-02-10T18:20:00.000-05:002007-02-10T18:20:00.000-05:00K.C.,You have made the point that I have been emph...K.C.,<BR/><BR/>You have made the point that I have been emphasizing for months. Just who has been telling the truth since the party? It sure as heck has not been the "adults" associated with Duke University.<BR/><BR/>I think that the issue of the character of Houston Baker and Karla Holloway is self-evident. These are people who portray themselves as the eternal victims, yet have created a string of victims in their wake, and when someone points out the obvious, they scream "racism" and "sexism." The same goes for a number of other people associated with Duke and with the governments of Durham and North Carolina. Just who are the liars and who are the truth tellers? I think we know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58665314290664988612007-02-10T18:16:00.000-05:002007-02-10T18:16:00.000-05:006:00 "how they marry", should read who...lol, not ...6:00 "how they marry", should read who...<BR/><BR/>lol, not much interested in hearing a rant from Edward's blogger...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-75245209047771509532007-02-10T18:13:00.000-05:002007-02-10T18:13:00.000-05:00The Gang of 88 and many others are attempting to d...The Gang of 88 and many others are attempting to deconstruct character and more. <BR/><BR/>The discussion of the young men's character reminds me that the Boy Scouts are fighting the similar battles, against like-minded deconstructionists on numerous fronts. <BR/><BR/>Ironically, Scouting has done much, for many, many years to help boys regardless of race or status. Many times the boys need Scouting more than the Scouts need the boy.<BR/><BR/>What Scouts learn, among many other things, are to be: trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thirfty, brave, clean, and reverent.<BR/><BR/>One wonders how many of the Gang of 88 were involved in Girl or Boy Scouts, vs. how many of the Lacrosse team players.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20379137411613605032007-02-10T18:11:00.000-05:002007-02-10T18:11:00.000-05:004:24, KC Johnson can say anything he wants on his ...4:24, KC Johnson can say anything he wants on his blog - that's his prerogative, it's his blog. He is not employed by anyone to do this, and does not receive funding to maintain this site. So he is beholden only to himself. He blogs on this issue because he thinks it's important. If he thinks raising money for the ATAF is worth his time to write about, then that's what he will do.<BR/><BR/>You can wish what you like, but KC has never advertised his blog as anything but coverage of what he deems important about the Duke Lacrosse case. If he wants to write about it, he will. He owes you, me, and everyone else reading this no explanation of the topics he covers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com