tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post7969187068362647952..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Addison: Police Are the Victimskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-71877604538736381242007-06-11T05:40:00.000-04:002007-06-11T05:40:00.000-04:00In the next episodes of the soap opera that is Dur...In the next episodes of the soap opera that is Durhaminwonderland, can we expect the cops and Nifong to go against each other or will they turn on the bloggers and the LAX members and supporters who are scapegoating them? Poor little police.<BR/><BR/>The trial should go straight to a made-for-tv film.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29622190080776114512007-06-11T00:51:00.000-04:002007-06-11T00:51:00.000-04:00I have mentioned at least 2-3 times that everybody...I have mentioned at least 2-3 times that everybody needs to read this Yaeger/Pressler book (no I dont know the authors and get no cut of the profits!!)<BR/><BR/>Aside from the obvious so many scenes haunt me--<BR/><BR/>1. The way the Duke admin lied to Pressler, the way they caved in so easily.<BR/><BR/>2. The slime that is the DPD.<BR/><BR/>3. Nifong's nephew makes an appearance!<BR/><BR/>4. Most of all, the character of Evans. The moment when he should have been celebrating his graduation he has to go out to buy a shirt "to look good on TV for his statement".<BR/><BR/>One more question: whats happening to Dr Meehan? I mean, when does this guy get nailed? Can he lose a license>? Accreditation?? His business? Keep in mind his DNA was found in the reports but not the Duke Lacrosse players!!<BR/><BR/>E-DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-76899803093060608102007-06-11T00:40:00.000-04:002007-06-11T00:40:00.000-04:00Jun 10, 2007 6:21:00 PM JLS-Thanks for reviewing m...Jun 10, 2007 6:21:00 PM <BR/><BR/>JLS-<BR/><BR/>Thanks for reviewing my questions and your excellent answers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-61991019671060112172007-06-10T23:46:00.000-04:002007-06-10T23:46:00.000-04:00For all those who cannot properly interpret the DP...For all those who cannot properly interpret the DPD’s statement I will so that for you; <BR/><BR/>The Durham Police Department has been subjected to yet another round of criticism from the city's leaders.<BR/> Once again we are in trouble for shoddy work, but if we say yet it somehow sounds like it is not our fault.<BR/><BR/>This is like the first round of a fight with Mike Tyson. The decision has already been made.<BR/>We are guilty, but with victim mentality if we can inject violence in the conversation and somehow make the other side responsible it justifies are bad actions.<BR/><BR/>We continue to stand in silence because our teaching shows us that retaliation does not profit anyone. <BR/>We normally retaliate, that’s why we think about it, but this time we are in so much trouble we now will get caught.<BR/><BR/>As we stand bloodied from the slander and vicious attacks, we are just blocking punches. <BR/>Once again let’s say the other side has committed great acts of violence upon us so we can be a victim after all it is only words.<BR/><BR/>The air of voice is beaten out and the eyes of clarity have been closed.<BR/>This is true statement about us at the DPD, we just added this statement to make dummies think that we meant it about our accusers.<BR/><BR/> The only things we have left are the legs which are supported by over 500 sworn officers and nearly 200 civilians. <BR/>Let’s make everybody understand that they are not just hurting us the perpetrators, but we scumbags will surely take it out on those below us.<BR/><BR/>We are still able to think but even the referee penalizes us for blows we have not thrown. How much more can we take?<BR/>Even with my terrible English skill this sentence makes absolutely no sense.<BR/> <BR/>A lot, <BR/>This is where we at the top of the DPD park, B lot is reserved for the morons (500 sworn officers and 200 civilian employees)<BR/>I suspect. However, we cannot and will not subscribe to the philosophy of abuse or continue to be victimized.<BR/><BR/>This is a DIRECT THREAT to all who have exposed DPD, they are gonna bust your heads maybe not today but wait until tomorrow. (And if you haven’t read between the lines review the words Beaten, Tyson, blows, etc.. )<BR/><BR/>It is amazing, or is it just an election year? You decide.<BR/>We throw this election year garbage in to further confuse the reader, and make it seem like we are not public officials, only poor little people being abused by the man.<BR/><BR/>Tom E.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78435050537121000142007-06-10T21:56:00.000-04:002007-06-10T21:56:00.000-04:00Can the admins please delete 5:23's post? It's cr...Can the admins please delete 5:23's post? It's crude and does nothing to further the discourse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3672390388919298152007-06-10T21:20:00.000-04:002007-06-10T21:20:00.000-04:00This case is in the Big Leagues. He's done foreve...This case is in the Big Leagues. He's done forever, as are most of the other framers. You are right, people do not like abusing the laws of our land to send innocent people to prison.<BR/><BR/>Apologizing would be a fantastic way out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68638986522340303842007-06-10T21:10:00.000-04:002007-06-10T21:10:00.000-04:00David Addison's most recent comment shows he is no...David Addison's most recent comment shows he is not just a jerk but a stupid jerk. American's hate liars and especially lying police officers.<BR/><BR/>America is looking for two words from Addison and nothing else, wrong and sorry. He is a proven liar, so now it's just a matter of whether he is going to be fogiven or fileted.<BR/><BR/>If he says he was wrong and he knows it, explains why he said what he said and apologizes, he may be able to garner some sympathy. If he continues to play this victim card he is done forever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52145714089890603322007-06-10T20:59:00.000-04:002007-06-10T20:59:00.000-04:00This is the email I sent to Mr. Addison:Mr. Addiso...This is the email I sent to Mr. Addison:<BR/><BR/>Mr. Addison,<BR/><BR/>In reading your letter to the Herald-Sun today, let me say that I am stunned at your audacity and sheer dishonesty. It was little more than a year ago when you were claiming things that were not true, and not on any medical report, and then lied about the "information" -- or, better yet, disinformation -- that you gave the community.<BR/><BR/>You played an active role in framing three innocent young men of one of the most horrific crimes in the lawbooks, and then you try to claim you are a victim? If anyone was a victim, it was those individuals who were falsely charged with crimes and their families, which had to bear huge expenses, all because you and your colleagues lied and lied and lied.<BR/><BR/>However, Mr. Addison, let me also assure you that the families have not forgotten your up-front role in this frame-up. Do you think they have forgotten that you and your Blue Wall of Silence fellow officers promised the attorneys and the players that no press would be there when they came to give DNA samples? Do you think that they have forgotten that you and your Blue Wall of Silence fellow officers locked the doors of the DPD building so the press outside could have at them? Do you think they have forgotten that after they cooperated fully with the police that you lied and said that they were putting up a "blue wall of silence"?<BR/><BR/>(Because police officers across the country are famous for the "Blue Wall of Silence," I suspect you had plenty of practice in using that term. If there is a "Blue Wall of Silence" in this case, it is the wall that you and your criminal colleagues are putting up as we speak.)<BR/><BR/>Thus, I also will give you the following advice: make sure you have a good lawyer, because you are going to need it. If it were up to me, you would be front-and-center in a criminal investigation, but given that the Blue Wall of Silence also applies to other law enforcement agencies, you most likely will receive an undeserved pass. That is too bad, because I believe that you and many others in the DPD are nothing but common -- make that dangerous -- criminals. That's right, criminals.<BR/><BR/>Obstructing justice, Mr. Addison, is a crime. Falsifying evidence, Mr. Addison, is a crime. Knowingly framing innocent people for rape, Mr. Addison, is a crime. Sending false and misleading information over telephone lines and through the mails, Mr. Addison, is a crime.<BR/><BR/>Again, most likely the only way you will meet any bar of justice is through civil courts, and I have the suspicion that you will be high on the list of people the families will sue. But if there were any justice in the United States -- and Durham justice is even worse -- you would be spending many, many years behind bars.<BR/><BR/>Please do not tell us you are victims. You and your colleagues are victimizers. And I can only hope you will dearly pay for the crimes you committed this past year.<BR/><BR/>William L. AndersonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-61677160245318646872007-06-10T20:47:00.000-04:002007-06-10T20:47:00.000-04:00What a load of puerile, self-pitying crap.beckettWhat a load of puerile, self-pitying crap.<BR/><BR/>beckettbecket03https://www.blogger.com/profile/18173177473977303546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50800870601075883622007-06-10T18:36:00.000-04:002007-06-10T18:36:00.000-04:00They all acted together. Nifong was even able to ...They all acted together. Nifong was even able to get an agency from Burlington to participate in hiding evidence. There is a lot of local coruption in North Carolina as there is elsewhere. This is power and arrogance run amuck. The whole affair is a rock that needs to be turned over if the forces of civilization are going to have a chance in Durham. There have been assassinations on the streets in Durham. In other words, there have been multiple murders committed that have the ear marks of assigned hits. What is going on in this town, or what is going on that is not going on in other towns in this country. If this is not addressed, you won't have much of a city. Clean it up. Don't excuse it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48862013340651885562007-06-10T18:21:00.000-04:002007-06-10T18:21:00.000-04:00JLS says...,re: anon 3:02Nothing wrong with your 2...JLS says...,<BR/><BR/>re: <B>anon 3:02</B><BR/><BR/>Nothing wrong with your 2:39 and/or 2:47 posts. I took off for the Y to swim a bit. I have to use the weekends to get ready for Nifong's big week not to mention intensive summer classes.<BR/><BR/><I>The Duke admin? </I><BR/><BR/>In some respects the Duke admin are the most disappointing people to me. They should be academic leaders.<BR/><BR/>But I also know that academic adminstrators are often bad scholars who the university is trying to get some productivity out of. Particularly the Dean of Students at Duke now is just a suckup who wanted to stay in academics without doing the work to become a scholar. [The old axiom about doing and teach really to me is those who can not advance knowledge through research, those who can become department chairs, deans, vps, presidents etc.]<BR/><BR/><I>what about the local media? The national media?</I> <BR/><BR/>The media are disappointing but hardly surprising. Media types are not big thinkers. So it is not surprising they follow the latest academic fad. They also always root for a man bites dog story over the boring dog bites man. So they naturally wanted this story to be true.<BR/><BR/>I don't see the local and national mainstream media as much different. The alternative media, Hannity, various blogs like FreeRepublic and Professor Johnson's here, Professor Anderson, John in Carolina has for the most part done a good job on this case.<BR/><BR/><I>Most Duke students?</I> <BR/><BR/>On the whole, I think the students have been pretty good about this. The naturally like most in the world who were not these guys friends tended to believe what they heard at first. They seemed to become skeptical as the facts came out. So I see no criticism of the general student body.<BR/><BR/>Now certainly the students pushed forward by Duke have tended towards acholytes of the 88. That is partly because the 88 are for the most part, as Professor Johnson has documented, are not good researchers so they are likely a farm team for administrators and the Brodhead is basically member of the gangsters. <BR/><BR/><I>M0st of Durham?</I><BR/><BR/>Most of Durham seem to be racists. So it is hardly surprising they were happy to join in the railroad.<BR/><BR/><I> ANYBODY in the DAs office?</I><BR/><BR/>They should be held to a higher standard than the DPD but like the DPD if you wanted to advance in your career you don't come in and start by calling your boss a criminal. And like the DPD everyone does not get together for lunch and review each others evidence files. Like you and me until the discovery last summer, they likely thought Nifong had some evidence of a crime.<BR/><BR/><I> Sure, the police chief too. </I><BR/><BR/>You are right that other than the ADAs, unlike the DPD the Duke Administers, the media, etc did not have an incentive to go along with Nifong. But the media and the Duke admin is infected with the fashionable racism of the day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35016147756957336632007-06-10T18:07:00.000-04:002007-06-10T18:07:00.000-04:00What Addison said might be covered under the libel...What Addison said might be covered under the libel and slander laws. Bill Anderson could be right again. Let us see how Addison handles the depositions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83127947831441246632007-06-10T17:27:00.000-04:002007-06-10T17:27:00.000-04:00Mac - I contributed to the Defense Fund, bought ma...Mac - I contributed to the Defense Fund, bought many of the braclets for the family, contributed to the Anyone but Nifong campaign, Like others, I emailed and wrote everyone there was to write numerous times = Asking for Justice. Sad to see innocent until proven quilty has lost its way with a few posters.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48037879760040871802007-06-10T17:24:00.000-04:002007-06-10T17:24:00.000-04:00Well, they got it wrong again. Is their anyone who...Well, they got it wrong again. Is their anyone who does not know, Dr Manly did the exam and collected the swabs? Levicy did most of the checklist and assissted the Doctor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49855789537790926062007-06-10T17:23:00.000-04:002007-06-10T17:23:00.000-04:00Cher Debrah,Y'all be so right on, sistah: love hur...Cher Debrah,<BR/><BR/>Y'all be so right on, sistah: love hurts mah ass toos.<BR/><BR/>I uses dad Vaselinez Poack jams on mah butts befrorz Iz goez to works.<BR/><BR/>Crysatal Gail MangumAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-81455901354128154742007-06-10T17:22:00.000-04:002007-06-10T17:22:00.000-04:00Hard to believe the families don't know who commit...Hard to believe the families don't know who committed the crime. Oh yeah, the non existent conspiracy!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68877485344758878022007-06-10T17:02:00.000-04:002007-06-10T17:02:00.000-04:004:36 PM - thanks for the link..."Dudley Humphrey, ...4:36 PM - thanks for the link...<BR/><I>"Dudley Humphrey, then-president of the bar, was met with derisive laughter when he asserted that Gell was not the victim in the prosecutorial misconduct case. "The system was the victim," Humphrey said."</I><BR/><BR/>Hey big group hug...we're all victims. We're so busy being victims that we do not have <I><B>any</B></I> time or departmental resources to do the right thing and follow laws.<BR/><BR/>Go ahead. Do the wrong thing. Screw somebody else for your own ends. Then relax, for you are a victim.<BR/><BR/>This is the State Bar. There is no hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20608601385737656652007-06-10T17:00:00.000-04:002007-06-10T17:00:00.000-04:00I suspect that the LAX families have sent the foll...I suspect that the LAX families have sent the following message to Mr. Addison: "We will be relentless in finding out who committed this crime."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-8709940237841621002007-06-10T16:59:00.000-04:002007-06-10T16:59:00.000-04:00TO "mac"--De nada.Poor, poor Mikey.......but hey, ...TO "mac"--<BR/><BR/>De nada.<BR/><BR/>Poor, poor Mikey.......but hey, love hurts.<BR/><BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33399428690214091802007-06-10T16:51:00.000-04:002007-06-10T16:51:00.000-04:00Addison must have downed a couple drums of hundred...Addison must have downed a couple drums of hundred proof gall before he penned that letter. Some people have no capacity for self reflection. It would have served Addison well as he sat down with his thesaurus to write his letter.wayne fonteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12082812958420391750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-63965230294104506952007-06-10T16:45:00.000-04:002007-06-10T16:45:00.000-04:00Debrah,Thanks for the link to Neff et al;looks lik...Debrah,<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link to Neff et al;<BR/>looks like no one is going to do<BR/>a backroom deal as was suggested.<BR/>The Bar is feeling like a tired,<BR/>sleep-deproved grizzly, it would<BR/>appear.<BR/><BR/>Kaopectate, Mikey.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58908324194883737162007-06-10T16:36:00.001-04:002007-06-10T16:36:00.001-04:00Some say Nifong will not be disbarred. I'm not a g...Some say Nifong will not be disbarred. I'm not a gambler, but if I were in Vegas, this is one I'd bet thousands on that he certainly will be.<BR/><BR/>For his actions, there's no question that it should happen, but the NC Bar will have to prove itself to be a just body.<BR/><BR/>Neff and Blythe cover this issue in the N&O today:<BR/><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.newsobserver.com/front/story/598609.html" REL="nofollow">Nifong_and_Bar</A><BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-26832394086483913582007-06-10T16:36:00.000-04:002007-06-10T16:36:00.000-04:00JLS 2:46Regardless of what Nifong is holding onto,...JLS 2:46<BR/><BR/>Regardless of what Nifong is holding onto, <BR/>his pension or his last paychecks,<BR/>he should squeeze tight and take<BR/>some Kaopectate.<BR/><BR/>4:25<BR/><BR/>If Nifong "takes one for the team,"<BR/>City Council will still be free to<BR/>call for a prosecution (Cooper hinted<BR/>that someone outside of his office<BR/>needed to do that.)<BR/>I predict that eventually, Nifong<BR/>will take one FROM the team.<BR/><BR/>2:45 <BR/><BR/>Even though Tara's not on the<BR/>witness list, she might be on <BR/>someone's list (Investigators,<BR/>plaintiff's attorneys.) <BR/>Depends on what she told 'em<BR/>during those many meetings, <BR/>and whether or not they were<BR/>recorded etc.<BR/><BR/>Tara coud be of use to anyone <BR/>prosecuting/suing Nifong/the DPD<BR/>Investigators/ Durham/ DUMC, <BR/>depending upon what she <BR/>maintained, and what they did<BR/>with her information.<BR/><BR/>(See Tara? I've been trying to<BR/>find a way out for you, but your<BR/>trolls keep saying "duh, no way,"<BR/>and other things like that,<BR/>offering you no defense whatever.<BR/><BR/>You might start by publicly<BR/>stating that you believe <BR/>the boys are innocent. You<BR/>do believe that, don't you?)machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-16140978311992977032007-06-10T16:26:00.000-04:002007-06-10T16:26:00.000-04:00Just before the Addison letter in the H-S, this on...Just before the Addison letter in the H-S, this one by Graham Marlette is quite good. Although he gives a bit too much praise to the council members, the way he picks apart the loon Catotti is priceless.<BR/><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.heraldsun.com/opinion/hsletters/index.cfm#855121" REL="nofollow">Marlette</A><BR/><BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72411897585928086742007-06-10T16:25:00.000-04:002007-06-10T16:25:00.000-04:00Watch for a backroom deal to be played out this we...Watch for a backroom deal to be played out this week -- Nofing takes one for the team, puts up a lame excuse without dragging others in and loses his license. No referral for criminal prosecution. Civil actions follow. Down the line, Nofing has an undocumented extra source of income or some other form of payback...<BR/><BR/><BR/>BTW, does the Duke PD hire lots of people from the Durham PD? I think DUPD and DPD had a good cop/bad cop thing running on Duke students and were in pretty tight. How does Duke PD look in all of this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com