tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post8240931087294268580..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Nifong Unqualified Apologykcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger139125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-90916389782222319612007-07-27T12:09:00.000-04:002007-07-27T12:09:00.000-04:00Let's be a little more sophisticated in looking at...Let's be a little more sophisticated in looking at Presidential appointees.<BR/><BR/>I was in the govmint for 25 years, including during the Clinton years. I worked up cases of fraud for my agency. These were then presented to the appropriate US attorney for prosecution. I had a great case in Boston involving millions of dollars. It was a "non starter" because of the people involved. There was a serious public safety case that was on hold for 2+ years until the Clinton appointees resigned. It was successfully prosecuted subsequently. <BR/><BR/>It was clearly understood and known that certain people and organizations were NEVER going to be indicted because of "special interests" of the prevailing administration. So we, the work a day civil servants learned, just don't even bother. <BR/><BR/>The Clinton administration was full of corrupt appointees (remember Espy?). 9/11 was one of their happier days as the FBI dropped a zillion cases being developed to focus on terrorism issues.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87707542403150259082007-07-27T11:25:00.000-04:002007-07-27T11:25:00.000-04:00Anonymous 5:42am, et al., you're still not getting...Anonymous 5:42am, et al., you're still not getting it.<BR/><BR/>Nifong didn't admit that no crime was committed, all he did was admit that there was no evidence that Seligman, Finnerty and Evans committed a crime.<BR/><BR/>Look folks, he's still saying that "something happened," he just is now admitting that there's no evidence that the men he framed participated in it.<BR/><BR/>Until I hear from Nifong himself that the <I>only</I> crime that happened that night was that a drunk, drugged-out hooker violated her parole and filed false allegations of rape, kidnapping and sexual assault, I'm not going to be satisfied that Nifong is truly repentant. <BR/><BR/>Nifong needs to see jail time, and not just some measly 30 days. IMHO he should serve <B>years</B>, not days.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20233642656013860022007-07-27T10:13:00.000-04:002007-07-27T10:13:00.000-04:00Yes, firing US attorneys at the beginning of the t...Yes, firing US attorneys at the beginning of the term is far different than targeting 8 specific attorneys who are actively seeking indictments against Republicans and/or have found that the evidence doesn't add up to charge various different Democrats with crimes similar to those of Tom Delay.<BR/><BR/>Further, anyone who says that perjury is not a crime simply because the investigation in which Scooter Libby perjured himself simply doesn't know what perjury means.<BR/><BR/>Perjury is lying under oath, not lying under oath when the investigation you lied during finds an underlying crime.<BR/><BR/>I agree with the Libby jury (who found him guilty after a trial involving Libby's defense by some of the best criminal defense lawyers in the country) that things seem more fair when there is an underlying crime... but the whole point of an investigation is that there may have been an underlying crime, and we have to figure it all out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47891813449382970342007-07-27T09:23:00.000-04:002007-07-27T09:23:00.000-04:00Completely unrrelated, but I wasn't sure where to ...Completely unrrelated, but I wasn't sure where to ask...<BR/><BR/>Has there been <I>any</I> follow up on Michael Burch, the guy from the fraternity party? I can't find a single article after February.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01556452778491861335noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57369995758600901462007-07-27T08:45:00.000-04:002007-07-27T08:45:00.000-04:00As an attorney in NC, who has experienced dishones...As an attorney in NC, who has experienced dishonest DAs regularly, I would point out this is a qualified apology. Nifong says the Attorney General had access to facts he did not. More qualification for his dishonesty, more of the same, more it is someone elses's fault-----.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-32893736393916176912007-07-27T06:24:00.000-04:002007-07-27T06:24:00.000-04:00this is a non apology made on the legal advice of ...this is a non apology made on the legal advice of his attorney to try to get a more lenient sentence. notice how he never says no crime was committed but rather that the no evidence exists that the three defendants committed said crime. there is a difference. and he needn't have bothered as the defense wants his total destruction and will not stop at nothing less.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62748746983933400192007-07-27T05:42:00.000-04:002007-07-27T05:42:00.000-04:00Just three months ago, while defending his misdeed...Just three months ago, while defending his misdeeds in front of the disbarment panel, Nifong explained that he still believed "something" happened in that bathroom. What changed between then and now - other than that he is now already disbarred and risks jail time, and is better served by singing a different tune?<BR/><BR/>Let's face it, Nifong tried framing those students for the same reason that he is now apologizing to them: to serve his own self interest. Had he succeeded in framing those students so that they are in jail, I’d bet my next week’s pay that he would not be proclaiming their innocence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18146940953907305102007-07-27T02:35:00.000-04:002007-07-27T02:35:00.000-04:00"Way too little, way too late".True, and yet more ..."Way too little, way too late".<BR/><BR/>True, and yet more than Brodhead has said so far.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29356510185121719662007-07-27T00:15:00.000-04:002007-07-27T00:15:00.000-04:008:16 - it's routine for Presidents to do a mass pu...8:16 - it's routine for Presidents to do a mass purge of the US Attorneys at the beginning of their term, because they "serve at the pleasure of the President" and he's not the guy that hired them. That's precisely what Clinton did (and Bush I did, and Reagan did, etc etc).<BR/><BR/>What Bush did is fire the same guys he'd previously approved because various right-wingers felt they were being insufficiently partisan. For an office where they are SUPPOSED to act in a nonpartisan manner.<BR/><BR/>THAT is unprecedented. And now they lie about it (see Gonzo's latest adventure in front of Congress for the most recent example), and dumbasses like you keep repeating the Fox News talking points that you got from Rush or some other right-wing blowhard without ever realizing that you don't have a damned clue.<BR/><BR/>Question: Who's going to wind up going down harder, Nifong or Gonzales? (Ok, that's too easy, because even if they can find someone to investigate Gonzo, Bush will just wind up pardoning him.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29064106104508844852007-07-27T00:13:00.000-04:002007-07-27T00:13:00.000-04:00Floyd does not pay for no-condom butt sexwonder wh...Floyd does not pay for no-condom butt sex<BR/><BR/>wonder what a former D.A. pays for it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73598599312605360762007-07-27T00:08:00.000-04:002007-07-27T00:08:00.000-04:00I'll give you -- this was better than his previous...I'll give you -- this was better than his previous 2 apologies however "unqualified"?<BR/><BR/>"I have read the report released by the attorney general, including his recitation of evidence that I did not have, obtained from his own investigation."<BR/><BR/>Should have been...<BR/><BR/>"I have read the report released by the attorney general, including his recitation of evidence that I did not have. Had I properly performed my duties as a minister of justice I would not have hidden exculpatory evidence from the defendants for 9 months and I would have demanded a full and fair investigation into the allegations securing the evidence the AG ultimately uncovered."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87618827227411841792007-07-26T23:00:00.000-04:002007-07-26T23:00:00.000-04:00Mr. SpivackShe hangs at local bars. Wears a blonde...Mr. Spivack<BR/><BR/>She hangs at local bars. Wears a blonde wig. $100 for no-condom butt sex (that's what I hear).<BR/><BR/>Mangum also tells friends she will become rich when she takes show on road.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-17092891515659250662007-07-26T22:25:00.000-04:002007-07-26T22:25:00.000-04:009:05The problem with democracy is that people can ...9:05<BR/><BR/>The problem with democracy is that people can vote with whatever foolish reason they want.<BR/><BR/>I mean to vote for ONE reason? This case? <BR/><BR/>I'm sure there are probably people who will vote for Hillary because she's a woman. They will vote for Edwards because his wife is boycotting fruit.<BR/><BR/>Rudy yes because he is pro-abortion,no because he's been married 3Xs.<BR/><BR/>When one votes, they ought to vote for the best whatever: mayor, police chief, President, governor,ect.<BR/><BR/>Get it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-92076361668064608402007-07-26T22:23:00.000-04:002007-07-26T22:23:00.000-04:00>I agree with the attorney general’s statement tha...>I agree with the attorney general’s statement that there is no credible evidence that Mr. Seligmann, Mr. Finnerty and Mr. Evans commited any of the crimes for which they were indicted or any other crimes during the party that occurred on March 13 and 14 of 2006 at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd.<<BR/><BR/>The attorney general is privy to the same LACK of evidence as Nifong was privy to. So, if Nifong now agrees that there is no credible evidence of the crimes, why then did he tried to frame the students before his election? <BR/><BR/>Of course, it's not like having the evidence would justify Nifong framing the students. But, by squaring what Nifong said today with what he did last year, it shows that he was trying to frame these students even though he already knew that they were innocent.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31313517944777372952007-07-26T21:49:00.000-04:002007-07-26T21:49:00.000-04:00Geez this is so transparent its funny. "See I sai...Geez this is so transparent its funny. "See I said I was sorry judge, please don't put little Mikey in the Can. I promise I'll be very, very good from now on."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-30468553908513848212007-07-26T21:48:00.000-04:002007-07-26T21:48:00.000-04:00I don't have the time to read through all of the c...I don't have the time to read through all of the comments to this thread, and apologize in advance if I'm repeating others' comments, but I have to say it: Nifong is offering up weasel-words. <BR/><BR/>Nifong said: <I>"I agree with the attorney general’s statement that there is no credible evidence that Mr. Seligmann, Mr. Finnerty and Mr. Evans commited any of the crimes for which they were indicted or any other crimes during the party that occurred on March 13 and 14 of 2006 at 610 N. Buchanan Blvd."</I> <BR/><BR/>He isn't going far enough. The only thing that "happened," the only <B>crime</B> that occurred on the night in question is that <B>A DRUNKEN, DRUGGED-OUT HOOKER MADE A FALSE ALLEGATION OF RAPE.</B> That's the <B>ONLY THING THAT HAPPENED.</B><BR/><BR/>Why the hell can't these losers get it together to tell the truth.<BR/><BR/>Crystal Mangum needs to be arrested, charged and put on trial for her crimes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-149038266153697042007-07-26T21:18:00.000-04:002007-07-26T21:18:00.000-04:00Does anyone know if Crystal Mangum is still hookin...Does anyone know if Crystal Mangum is still hooking? I saw her high school photo and became immediately aroused. That's one fine Negress. Ample ass, full lips, blue eyes.<BR/><BR/>I'm traveling through Durham in a couple of weeks. Does anyone know if sge has a pimp. or where she might be conducting business?<BR/><BR/>What does she charge for anal? Pearl necklace?<BR/><BR/>I appreciate the feedback.<BR/><BR/>Duke Spivack<BR/>Olympia, WashingtonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31251604946856460012007-07-26T21:09:00.000-04:002007-07-26T21:09:00.000-04:00Don't bother to read the whole thing, here's what ...Don't bother to read the whole thing, here's what he said:<BR/><BR/>"I'm sorry I was caught, and hopefully a fake apology will trick the judge into letting me off easy for perjury."Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09092058022215678505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50432558159351399082007-07-26T21:05:00.000-04:002007-07-26T21:05:00.000-04:00If anyone out there has anything to do with the Re...If anyone out there has anything to do with the Republicans--<BR/><BR/>I vote approx 75% of the time REP, the other 25% DEM. I am one of those average "swing voters".<BR/><BR/>I can promise you this: if the FEDS do not get involved in this case I will not vote for any REP in the next election. <BR/><BR/>If this admin cannot get involved with this case, etc,etc-> forget getting my vote for now.<BR/><BR/>I feel that strongly about it. And I suspect, by looking at these blogs, Im not the only one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-10935437191526706462007-07-26T21:04:00.000-04:002007-07-26T21:04:00.000-04:00He starts out by using his family as a propand fir...He starts out by using his family as a prop<BR/>and first talks about his own painful journey (and<BR/>that of his family) HE was the cause of the pain!! <BR/>He did this to himself! Anybody with an ounce of a<BR/>brain could of, and should of, concluded fairly<BR/>quickly with any semblance of a real police<BR/>investigation that she made the whole thing up.<BR/><BR/>He talks about a painful journey.<BR/>Prior to being disbarred, what pain did he suffer?<BR/><BR/>So frustrating that he got some sympathy from this<BR/>non-apology ...MikeZPurduehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607714354649967842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72583897732037830082007-07-26T20:16:00.000-04:002007-07-26T20:16:00.000-04:00First, the dopes parroting the talking points abou...<I>First, the dopes parroting the talking points about how "Clinton did it too!" about the US Attorney scandal need to turn off the Fox News for a while and learn something. Hopefully that will help them to avoid looking like idiots in the future.</I><BR/><BR/>Please provide more detailed information. Such as links. Because I really want to know how Clinton's firing actions are any different. Back it up, or STFU.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35281162106121677312007-07-26T20:14:00.000-04:002007-07-26T20:14:00.000-04:00Also, the line "they were entitled to the presumpt...Also, the line "they were entitled to the presumption of<BR/>innocence under indictment", that line actually gets<BR/>me mad. They were entitled to the presumption of<BR/>"innocent until proven guilty" the second the accuser<BR/>made the charges. They deserved an actual <BR/>investigation, as opposed to a charade and parade<BR/>of intimidating witnesses into false statements AND<BR/>most important of all,<BR/>they should NOT have even been indicted. He totally misled<BR/>the Grand Jury and kept information from them.<BR/><BR/>This apology is not an apology at all.MikeZPurduehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607714354649967842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50480013767725162342007-07-26T20:10:00.000-04:002007-07-26T20:10:00.000-04:00Another non-apology apology. Criminals often beli...Another non-apology apology. Criminals often believe their actions are right. What a creep!!!<BR/>Throw him in the GENERAL POPULATION<BR/><BR/>Hey...where the heck is the AG and the justice dept. on this one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43610102351296374192007-07-26T19:59:00.000-04:002007-07-26T19:59:00.000-04:00I agree with Bill Anderson... I want to hear from ...I agree with Bill Anderson... I want to hear from Nifong's mouth WHY he charged forward with this case.<BR/>I am disappointed the families are letting him off the hook. But, I am sure they want to get on with their own lives.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-14594589126553944182007-07-26T19:55:00.001-04:002007-07-26T19:55:00.001-04:00This is a vast improvement over his non-apology ap...This is a vast improvement over his non-apology apology but I'm not sure it's sincere.<BR/><BR/>Now we are led to believe that the lightbulb went on over Mike's head after he read the AG's report and he suddenly realized there was no credible evidence. That sounds like BS to me. His behavior throughout this mess indicates he knew all along that there was no credible evidence and he just didn't care. He certainly knew there was exculpatory evidnce as well since he went to great lengths to hide it.<BR/><BR/>Does he care now and is he genuinely sorry? I doubt it. The more probable explanation is that he knows his big fat butt is on the line and it's time to pull out all the stops. Apologies, tears, references to family and friends and so on. With jail potentially in the mix it's time to trot out everything in his bag of tricks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com