tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post868973159698890660..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Nifong "Contributes" To Obamakcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79693609437252073262008-08-01T12:12:00.000-04:002008-08-01T12:12:00.000-04:00I guess Nfong is "paying him back". If Nifong real...I guess Nfong is "paying him back". If Nifong really wants to sink in the dagger he can get with Jimmy Carter to make the rounds...Hey what about Al Sharpton or Reverend Jesse "cut yo nuts off" Jackson? Aren't they on the SC Obama Express too! WheeeeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34596352633254658882008-07-31T06:43:00.000-04:002008-07-31T06:43:00.000-04:00The following is posted on Glenn Reynold's Instapu...The following is posted on Glenn Reynold's Instapundit blog this a.m. Any other feedback on the Davis book mentioned?<BR/><BR/>"SAW AN EXCELLENT PANEL THIS EVENING ON THE DUKE LACROSSE RAPE HOAX, featuring K.C. Johnson (author of Until Proven Innocent, with Stuart Taylor), James Coleman, Mike Gerhardt, Lyrissa Lidsky, and Angela Davis (no, not that Angela Davis), author of Arbitrary Justice: The Power of the American Prosecutor, which I bought on Kenneth Anderson's recommendation and which is excellent, especially as a companion to K.C.'s book. The discussion was excellent and very fair. Lots of talk about what Nifong got wrong, plus the important point that the kind of misconduct for which Nifong was disbarred and punished is committed regularly by prosecutors who almost always get off scot-free even when it's exposed. We really need a better mechanism for policing prosecutorial misconduct, and it's not clear what that should be -- independent audits of cases by a sort of inspector general? I'm not sure.<BR/><BR/>I disagree, though, with the idea that replacing elected prosecutors with appointed prosecutors would fix the problem. As with elected vs. appointed judges, it doesn't get rid of the politics, just make it less transparent. And I suspect that situations like that obtaining in Britain, where burglars face little risk of prosecution while homeowners who defend their homes against burglars are targeted by authorities, could possibly prevail in a system of elected prosecutors."<BR/><BR/>It is affirming to realize that this case will be the poster child of prosecutorial misconduct of our time - maybe longer. As such, the Klan of 88, Richard Brodhead, Robert Steel, and the other abettors will have their names exposed to the public for a long, long time.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-54000937211406387852008-07-31T00:27:00.000-04:002008-07-31T00:27:00.000-04:00Is Duke a state-school?Is Duke a state-school?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-21939260788701705592008-07-29T13:39:00.000-04:002008-07-29T13:39:00.000-04:00As said, O made a great statement about Lacrosse H...As said, O made a great statement about Lacrosse Hoax, but the idea that President Obama (or any other president, for that matter) had launched an actual DOJ investigation in today's Amerika is absurd.<BR/><BR/>Besides, Obama was with racists in Jena hoax. (AA thugs - some with criminal background - attacked and almost killed a white kid, and then Gang88 types along with NYT fabricated stories about "white only tree", nooses, and "good kids with no criminal history BS" and launched a congressional investigation on the prosecutor for doing his job!)<BR/><BR/>This is Obama about Jena hoax:<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/29/AR2007112902576.html" REL="nofollow">Obama Deplores 'Jena Six,' Nooses</A><BR/><BR/>"NEW YORK -- Invoking a racially charged controversy, Democrat Barack Obama told a Harlem fundraiser Thursday that he deplored the fact that hanging nooses and "Jena Six" cases are still found in America and that if elected president he could be counted on to enforce civil rights laws. <BR/><BR/>Obama's reference to the Jena Six incident, in which six black teenagers were arrested for beating a white teen after white students allegedly hung nooses at their Jena, La., high school, came at a fundraiser at the historic Apollo Theater in Harlem."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-45709297417525290312008-07-29T12:10:00.000-04:002008-07-29T12:10:00.000-04:00Anonymous at 11:16 has it exactly right. While we ...Anonymous at 11:16 has it exactly right. While we can give Obama credit for saying the right thing, it is easy to say the right thing when you are not responsible for implementing it. As commentators said at the time, it was a win-win for Obama - he has the black vote in the bag and this gave him an opportunity to pick up some support from the other side of the aisle. Would his presidency have, as KC has it, been responsible for putting Nifong in jail? Well, his positions are ... flexible, and he even has the profound ability to hold opposing positions simultaneously so I have my doubts. I share Anon 11:16's admiration for KC, but cannot understand our host's willing suspension of belief when it comes to Obama. Barack Obama EMBODIES those beliefs and conditions that allowed the LAX hoax to take place. What's the difference between the teachings(?) of Wahneema Lubiano, Karla Holloway, William Chafe and the rest of the gang of 88 and those of Jeramiah (God D**n America) Wright, he of the Black Liberation Theology, whom Obama supported financially and otherwise for more than 20 years. Obama gives us the same ugly racism in a prettier face.wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11859835870661262534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31813053463773617742008-07-29T09:54:00.000-04:002008-07-29T09:54:00.000-04:00Advice from David BroderAdvice from <A HREF="http://jewishworldreview.com/david/broder.php3" REL="nofollow">David Broder</A>Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59066428159819830192008-07-29T09:19:00.000-04:002008-07-29T09:19:00.000-04:00From Wikipedia:"Persons of any level of intelligen...From Wikipedia:<BR/>"Persons of any level of intelligence are vulnerable to deception by experienced con artists. Confidence tricks exploit human weaknesses like greed, dishonesty, vanity, but also virtues like honesty, compassion, or a naïve expectation of good faith on the part of the con artist."<BR/><BR/>Just professional courtesy on Nifong's part.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79172030559927463452008-07-29T08:37:00.000-04:002008-07-29T08:37:00.000-04:00Actually, I live in North Carolina and Obama and M...Actually, I live in North Carolina and Obama and McCain are pretty much a non-issue. Most of the voters here wish anybody but McCain and Obama were running. If an Independent was running for President or the voting poll had "none of the above" listed, either would win by a landslide. <BR/><BR/>As for KC polls, I don't have much faith in those polls. Especially since I neither participated nor was asked.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-45454599175160933292008-07-29T08:14:00.000-04:002008-07-29T08:14:00.000-04:00TO Jamil Hussein--I agree that Gorelick is a moral...TO Jamil Hussein--<BR/><BR/>I agree that Gorelick is a morally bankrupt hired gun, but there is no proof that Obama is in that category.<BR/><BR/>His detractors can't have it both ways.<BR/><BR/>Is he shrewd and cynical?<BR/><BR/>Or is he naive?<BR/><BR/>I believe that he would have launched an investigation.<BR/><BR/>And that move, alone, would have changed the dynamics of everything.......long before the disbarment hearings.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-21481467435591960462008-07-29T08:04:00.000-04:002008-07-29T08:04:00.000-04:00Random thoughts from Thomas SowellRandom thoughts from <A HREF="http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell072908.php3" REL="nofollow">Thomas Sowell</A>Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58079991191573821342008-07-28T23:50:00.000-04:002008-07-28T23:50:00.000-04:00Give him credit for mentioning it, but I liken it ...Give him credit for mentioning it, but I liken it to "The West Wing" and Josiah Bartlet's decision to hide his MS "We'll go to south carolina, get whooped on super tuesday, and then we'll all go home."<BR/><BR/>Who in the heck thought it was possible Obama would win the nomination? Was he even a candidate when he made those statements or was he still under the "waiting for four years" guise?<BR/><BR/>I truly believe this is how he feels, but his hands are tied from acting on this or anything else like this. There is absolutely no way a politician is going to touch this issue with a ten foot pole.<BR/><BR/>And McCain wont bring this up because it might help sway undecided whites to Obama.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-76242959094073690782008-07-28T23:16:00.000-04:002008-07-28T23:16:00.000-04:00K.C., I have enormous respect for you and what you...K.C., I have enormous respect for you and what you have done regarding the lacrosse hoax. I have enjoyed reading your posts since the beginning of this case, and I thank you for all of the words that you have written.<BR/><BR/>I was an Obama supporter when he first announced his candidacy, and I was cheering when he said that he thought there should be an investigation by the DOJ. However, I do NOT believe that Obama would express the same opinion today, and I cannot find any evidence to support the idea that he would do so. <BR/><BR/>In my opinion, Obama has injected race into the campaign in such a way that anyone who dares to question his candidacy is "racist", rather than in disagreement with his policies. The black community will vote in the 90th percentile MERELY because he is black. He has pandered to the very worst instincts in the African American community, as can be seen by his associations with Trinity Church, Al Sharpton, and the rest. I WANTED him to be post-racial, but I found out that he is nothing more than a typical Chicago politician- will do anything to get into office.<BR/><BR/>I know that your intellect is far superior to mine and your writing makes mine look like a sixth-grader, but I am convinced that you have allowed yourself to be bamboozled by what you want Obama to be, instead of seeing him for what he is- an empty suit upon which everyone is projecting their own beliefs.<BR/><BR/>As I listened to Obama emphasize Afghanistan in his recent speeches, I wondered if I understand the geopolitical problems of Afghanistan better than he does. Am I mistaken that Afghanistan was a part of the cause of the break-up of the Soviet Union- that the fight in that country is more about containment and is almost unwinnable because of the terrain and geography, the nature of their tribal culture, their lack of infrastucture, and the lack of a viable economy beyond the heroin trade? YOU are the historian, you tell me.....don't Obama's speeches about Afghanistan strike you as facile attempts to show that he's a "hawk" for those voters concerned about terrorism and the safety of the United States? <BR/><BR/>Also, K.C., I believe that you are going to be very disappointed if Obama is elected and you find that Steel becomes Secretary of the Treasury or some other cabinet position. What will you think then?<BR/><BR/>I was always told that words are cheap- they are also duplicitous. A man's actions and the people with whom he surrounds himself are a truer measure of character. I am sorry, but I find Obama lacking. <BR/><BR/>Mike Nifong pandered to the African American victim culture in Durham to win an election. Obama will not suffer if Nifong supports him- after all, the Rev. Barbers, Victoria Petersons and Cash Michaels of the world still think Nifong was right.<BR/><BR/>MEAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52472406085297840212008-07-28T19:37:00.000-04:002008-07-28T19:37:00.000-04:00Previous Civitas Poll results:February – McCain 46...Previous Civitas Poll results:<BR/><BR/>February – McCain 46, Obama 36<BR/>April – McCain 48, Obama 39<BR/>May - McCain 44, Obama 39<BR/>June – McCain 45, Obama 41, Barr 2<BR/><BR/><BR/>Today's poll has it:<BR/><BR/>McCain 43, Obama 40. <BR/><BR/>Do 3 percentage points count as a "swing state"? Notice a trend? (hint: 10, 9, 5, 4, 3). By November, the state could be solidly in Obama's column if that trend continues and/or Barr gets some traction.<BR/><BR/>http://www.nccivitas.org/media/press-releases/n-c-poll-presidential-race-tightens<BR/><BR/><BR/>***************<BR/><BR/>I hope the next time Nifong shows up to the Obama campaign headquarters, they tell him they're all out of pamphlets and they don't have plans to print any more. <BR/><BR/>*************<BR/><BR/>What many fail to recognize is that Obama took a stand for the innocent Duke students at a time during which it could have been political suicide. He had not yet secured the so-called liberal or black votes. <BR/><BR/>It also goes against commentators' claims that NC is (or at least was) a solidly red state. Why would Obama pander to the "red" voters? Perhaps he wanted to see that justice was done?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33153509102579987082008-07-28T19:27:00.000-04:002008-07-28T19:27:00.000-04:00John in Carolina,.I know this is a little off topi...John in Carolina,.<BR/><BR/>I know this is a little off topic however, over at DiW Professor Johnson makes the following statement:<BR/><BR/>Alone among the 2008 presidential candidates, Obama endorsed a Justice Department criminal investigation of Nifong. So if Obama rather than George W. Bush had been president in 2007, Nifong very likely would be on his way to jail.<BR/>http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/2008/07/nifong-contributes-to-obama.html<BR/><BR/>I believe the Professor Johnson's proof of this is weak.<BR/>In a previous post he states:<BR/>1. that the above was first mentioned in Liestoppers which; <BR/>2. was confirmed by the following link: http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/LegalCenter/story?id=2980582&page=1<BR/><BR/>ABCNews in turn offers us this as their source:<BR/>Obama's comments were first posted on "Liestoppers," an online blog and forum on the Duke Lacrosse case. The user who posted them, known on that forum by the alias "sceptical," was the constituent who corresponded with Obama about the case.<BR/><BR/>Have you ever hear of any public comment by Senator Obama which supports the DiW assertion?<BR/><BR/>CC: DiWAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-26653240064098292842008-07-28T16:52:00.000-04:002008-07-28T16:52:00.000-04:00Bush and McCain didn't say anything. This is an ar...Bush and McCain didn't say anything. This is an area that no white politician want to get involved (unfortunately) because the racist Gang88/Sharpton with left-wing media (led by NYT) will attack them.<BR/><BR/>I applay Obama for making that statement, but again he did many statements which he throw under the bus later so the probability of Pres Obama (surrounded by the racist gang88 types and AG Gorelick) launching an investigation is zero.<BR/><BR/>Just remember the congressional hearings about the Jena hoax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-75764240397112267972008-07-28T15:18:00.000-04:002008-07-28T15:18:00.000-04:00I'm no fan of Obama but I'll give him credit where...I'm no fan of Obama but I'll give him credit where it's due, and here it IS due.<BR/><BR/>Still not gonna vote for him, though!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-64890329753517085792008-07-28T14:40:00.000-04:002008-07-28T14:40:00.000-04:00RCP Average 06/26 - 07/16 -- McCain +3.7 Civitas/T...RCP Average 06/26 - 07/16 -- McCain +3.7 <BR/><BR/>Civitas/TelOpinion 07/14 - 07/16 McCain +3.0 <BR/><BR/>Rasmussen 07/15 - 07/15 McCain +3.0 <BR/><BR/>SurveyUSA 07/12 - 07/14 McCain +5.0 <BR/><BR/>PPP 06/26 - 06/29 McCain +4.0 <BR/><BR/>Each poll of North Carolina was within the margin of error except the PPP and SurveyUSA polls, and they show McCain squeaking 1% more than the MoE. <BR/><BR/>I would imagine that the McCain campaign, even given all the gaffes and failed strategies is intelligent enough to realize that NC is a "swing state" thus far in this election. <BR/><BR/>But, then again, it was the McCain campaign that positioned him in front of a Sausage Haus in Ohio to rebut the Obama Berlin success and then wanted to fly McCain by helicopter to an oil derrick in the Gulf without considering the impact of Hurricane Dolly. D'oh! <BR/><BR/>If a North Carolina McCain party stooge called up Nifong and offered him some under the table money to go door-to-door for Obama, it would be the campaign's <BR/>first intelligently political move. I'm not willing to give the McCain campaign that much credit. <BR/><BR/>http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nc/north_carolina_mccain_vs_obama-334.html<BR/><BR/>(note that the polls are too old to take into account Obama's foreign tour success bump).<BR/><BR/>**************<BR/><BR/>As for the people arguing with K.C. about whether Obama would have called for a federal investigation of the lacrosse hoax. Nobody here knows that. <BR/><BR/>We do know, however, that Obama was the only President or presidential candidate who indicated any interest in a federal investigation of the fiasco. So, at least K.C. has evidence to base his projections on. On the other hand, what exactly did McCain or Bush say about it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59744465588110455182008-07-28T13:35:00.000-04:002008-07-28T13:35:00.000-04:00anon 7/28 11:45AMThank you.anon 7/28 11:45AM<BR/><BR/>Thank you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57109325693986658232008-07-28T13:24:00.000-04:002008-07-28T13:24:00.000-04:00Nifong for Attorney General!Nifong for Attorney General!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73496595778150431862008-07-28T13:20:00.000-04:002008-07-28T13:20:00.000-04:00Is Cox a Communist?Is Cox a Communist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-70879545830744234752008-07-28T11:45:00.000-04:002008-07-28T11:45:00.000-04:00I think Obama and Nifong do have commonalities: T...I think Obama and Nifong do have commonalities: They are both misandrist womanitarians. Both are interested in serving the needs of women and both are willing to ignore the needs of men.<BR/><BR/>For starters go to Obama's web site and look at his link for <A HREF="http://www.barackobama.com/people/" REL="nofollow">"People" </A> Notice that he has umpteen links for all sorts of folks and a link for women but no link for men. I have written to his campaign numerous times asking for his position on numerous men's issues and he or his confederates have never bothered to respond with anythying other than a plea for more money. Remember Obama was the one who was willing to denigrate Black fathers on fathers day. Imagine any politician saying something negative about mothers on mothers's day. They would be toast.<BR/><BR/>Sadly, Obama has this also in common with McCain. There is no humanitarian candidate. Our goose is cooked.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.trueequality.com/video.html" REL="nofollow">Good summary of men's issues</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53242105242742369622008-07-28T11:16:00.000-04:002008-07-28T11:16:00.000-04:00Sometimes you just have to sit back and accept rea...Sometimes you just have to sit back and accept reality.<BR/><BR/>There is no question that the media have not been covering Obama as objectively as they might another candidate; however, there is also no question that Obama is gifted with enormous talents which make him very appealing and easy to cover.<BR/><BR/>Even the most hard-nosed and seasoned journalist will break down on occasion.<BR/><BR/>This <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0drwfnGlF_E" REL="nofollow">Obama spoof</A> is amusing and very well-done.<BR/><BR/>This is a much better way to vent frustration. Instead of ad hominems, these Obama detractors have been creative.<BR/><BR/>You can never hold back a person who has great charisma or a certain, shall we say, <I>flair</I>.<BR/><BR/>It always shines through.<BR/><BR/>The Diva should know. She's <I>off the chain</I> today!Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-63769750140635459302008-07-28T09:54:00.000-04:002008-07-28T09:54:00.000-04:00I'm glad Obama did something to help the lacrosse ...I'm glad Obama did something to help the lacrosse team, but I'd be more impressed if he reached out to help <A HREF="http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/883120,CST-NWS-trustee08.article" REL="nofollow">the "monkeys" lady</A>.<BR/><BR/>For more reports on the "monkeys" lady, see <A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLR,GGLR:2006-14,GGLR:en&q=monkeys+obama+delegate+tree+neighbor" REL="nofollow">this google search</A>.<BR/><BR/>RRHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-64939903880840698792008-07-28T09:52:00.000-04:002008-07-28T09:52:00.000-04:00http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/2007/03/legal...http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/2007/03/legal-experts-on-obama.html<BR/><I><BR/>Thursday, March 29, 2007<BR/>Legal "Experts" on Obama<BR/><BR/>This morning’s Amsterdam News—last heard from on the case, somewhat appropriately, through an op-ed from the disbarred Alton Maddox, one of Tawana Brawley’s former attorneys— features an article citing legal “experts” attacking Illinois senator Barack Obama for urging a Justice Department inquiry into Mike Nifong’s misconduct.<BR/><BR/>Who are these legal “experts”? None other than the Duke case’s Dynamic Duo—NAACP case monitor Irving Joyner and adjunct Wendy Murphy.</I><BR/><BR/>http://johnsville.blogspot.com/2007/03/dukenifongcooper75-days-hoax.html<BR/><I><BR/>“I heard about the statement by Obama,” North Carolina Central University School of Law Professor Irving Joyner [and appointed by the NAACP to be a special watchdog over the lacrosse case] told The Carolinian/Wilmington Journal newspapers. “I don't think that it means much within the scope of things other than his stating a position without a valid examination.”<BR/><BR/>(snip)<BR/><BR/>“Having a federal civil rights investigation is such a joke,” Murphy told The Carolinian/Wilmington Journal newspapers. “Nobody can justify such a ridiculous idea. Even if this case were reviewed by a federal court, they would say there has been no constitutional violation and the defense has suffered no prejudice to their rights. If the courts would summarily laugh at such a claim, how can Congress say with a straight face that the claim merits a federal civil rights investigation?<BR/><BR/>“Barack Obama's support for a federal inquiry makes me wonder whether he understands these difficult issues,” Murphy continued. “It doesn't appear that he does and I'm very concerned that he doesn't seem to care one whit about the treatment of the victim, the violation of her civil rights, or maybe most important of all, that this case is being described as a 'fraud", etc -- by lawyers -- officers of the court who are ethically obligated not to lie or mislead the public.”<BR/><BR/></I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80009119165165981912008-07-28T09:20:00.000-04:002008-07-28T09:20:00.000-04:00KC - I have followed your insightful commentary on...KC - I have followed your insightful commentary on the Duke LAX case since you started DIW and have been an unabashed admirer. but we are in different territory here. Now this obviously is not the forum for any in-depth analysis of Barack Obama - the promise and the reality, but if you have been taken in by the empty puffery of this candidate and his uncritical media enablers, I sure hope that your BS meter is still under warranty.wrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11859835870661262534noreply@blogger.com