tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post8875014499620155212..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Wade Smith Testimonykcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger75125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-36909501922152819922007-06-12T23:10:00.000-04:002007-06-12T23:10:00.000-04:00Why would anyone assume the boy had a CHOICE in be...Why would anyone assume the boy had a CHOICE in being in court? Odds are that if Mom and dear old Dad say you're going to court, then by golly he's going to court!!<BR/><BR/>As someone else said, the kid is probably being used as a prop by Mom & Dad.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16902679235105952394noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53636825001379138842007-06-12T20:05:00.000-04:002007-06-12T20:05:00.000-04:00I concur with poster 2:23.I think the Nifong's are...I concur with poster 2:23.<BR/>I think the Nifong's are using their son to get sympathy from the panel. He is an innocent person, like a visual aide, his presence reminds the panel that Mr. Nifong is a family man. HIs defense is trying to paint a picture that he is an upstanding member of the community. Of course it could back fire, as most people would never put their children in this situation. Mr. Nifong and probably his wife are calculating sociopaths trying to save their standing in the community and their way of life. I'm certain they think he did nothing wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72047910014456487862007-06-12T18:52:00.000-04:002007-06-12T18:52:00.000-04:00I agree. Leave the kid alone. Whether or not he'...I agree. Leave the kid alone. Whether or not he's a sociopath like his dear old dad is irrelevant. Frankly, I don't care, since that is far from germain to this case. The person on trial here is Mike Nifong, and it's a truly great time for American justice because of that. It isn't his kid, it's Mike Nifong himself. It's unethical to take out one's wrath on the child of the focus of that anger, and for this case to be before us, far too many ethical lapses have occurred already.Mandelbrot's Chaoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16707481552099334302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3865259517487528602007-06-12T14:29:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:29:00.000-04:00Another poster wrote that...but you're right we ar...Another poster wrote that...but you're right we are only belaboring the point.<BR/><BR/>I will end the discussion by saying that it's wrong to assume anything other than the fact that he is there to support his father.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28692882477362749622007-06-12T14:24:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:24:00.000-04:002:20You imagine the son is ashamed of what his fat...2:20<BR/><BR/>You imagine the son is ashamed of what his father did, what's the difference in your imagining and mine?<BR/><BR/>Answer: There is no difference, just opinion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53507594085254067802007-06-12T14:23:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:23:00.000-04:00This whole holier than thou attitude about needing...This whole holier than thou attitude about needing to be sympathetic to Nifong's son and this wrong headed idea about what the presumption of innocence means is a big part of the negative legacy left by Mikey.<BR/><BR/>Every criminal from here to eternity is going to say, hey, look at what happened in Durham, my client is innocent too.<BR/><BR/>Mike's crimes are not only going to make it harder to get convictions all around, but are going to make it extremely difficult to get rape convictions in future acquantance situations.<BR/><BR/>Every prosecutor in the country will be accused of being a Mike Nifong. <BR/><BR/>I supported the Duke boys from the beginning, as soon as they said no sex occured instead of a consent defense I knew it was a cock up, but generally, police and DA's do not prosecute demonstrably innocent people, they generally get the guilty guys and are lucky when they get a conviction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-65395930558218475052007-06-12T14:20:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:20:00.000-04:00You wrote, "I imagine that his son feels his fathe...You wrote, "I imagine that his son feels his father is being unfairly railroaded for pressing charges against rich, white lacrosse players in his understandible desire to see justice for a black, downtrodden, college student, mother trying to feed her kids."<BR/><BR/>The point is that you don't know that, yet you are assuming that.<BR/><BR/>You imagine that......that's wrong. Leave the assuming and imagining to potbangers. That is all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-81588731029809644262007-06-12T14:18:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:18:00.000-04:00Forget about Nifong's son, for G/d's sake.That lit...Forget about Nifong's son, for G/d's sake.<BR/><BR/>That little wart on a rat's patootie isn't an issue.<BR/><BR/>Nifong's clueless sister, however, used to, early on, write glowing testimonials about her brother in letters to the N & O. LOL!!!<BR/><BR/>Someone needs to tell her that butt-for-brains Mikey is all grown up now and is a criminal.<BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78422929322280022892007-06-12T14:17:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:17:00.000-04:00I don't.I imagine that his son feels his father is...I don't.<BR/><BR/>I imagine that his son feels his father is being unfairly railroaded for pressing charges against rich, white lacrosse players in his understandible desire to see justice for a black, downtrodden, college student, mother trying to feed her kids.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19765149310410493872007-06-12T14:16:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:16:00.000-04:00You wrote, "A public show of support for his fathe...You wrote, "A public show of support for his father is tantamount to condoning what he did."<BR/><BR/>So, anytime someone appears in court alonside a defendent I guess they condone what that defendent did.<BR/><BR/>Gotta love your logic.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-56711838246662877112007-06-12T14:12:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:12:00.000-04:00If Nifong's son is there, then we should assume th...If Nifong's son is there, then we should assume that he is simply doing his duty as a son. <BR/><BR/>No matter Nifong's sins, and he has plenty, he is still human and deserves the support his son is showing. <BR/><BR/>I imagine that the son is ashamed of what his father has done, though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43391740742279062742007-06-12T14:04:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:04:00.000-04:00Take a recess posters!I'm reprising this INCUBUS t...Take a recess posters!<BR/><BR/>I'm reprising this INCUBUS tune, only this is the acoustic version with a different video. I am adamant that this tune could be used as an ode to Reade, Collin, and Dave with a collage of photos of them just as is used in this one.<BR/><BR/>Many of the lyrics align with the lacrosse players.<BR/><BR/>With a little poetic as well as dramatic license, this could make a great video on the Duke 3.<BR/><BR/>Listen to some of the lyrics again. I love this song.<BR/><BR/>Take a break and weigh in on this most diva of ideas!<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hro5cfVjr8&mode=related&search=" REL="nofollow">I_only_want_the_truth</A><BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35144127801997175322007-06-12T14:02:00.001-04:002007-06-12T14:02:00.001-04:00The evidence is his presence in the courtroom.In m...The evidence is his presence in the courtroom.<BR/><BR/>In my opinion his presence in the courtroom means that I do not have automatic sympathy for him.<BR/><BR/>A public show of support for his father is tantamount to condoning what he did. He can 'support' his father in private, that isn't what he's doing in the courtroom.<BR/><BR/>But this is a stupid side dialogue, I don't have sympathy for the son because he is publicly supporting his father, that is my choice and my right. You have a right to believe he is there to support his father but also doens't agree with his father's crmiinal actions. I don't. You do. That's america.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-81101660068163856842007-06-12T14:02:00.000-04:002007-06-12T14:02:00.000-04:00Ol' Mikey's got them cosmic (Duke) blues again...w...Ol' Mikey's got them cosmic (Duke) blues again...what a paragon of virtue he is...he Had to pursue...he had a DUTY to pursue...(*cue Monkees I'm a Believer yeah yeah yeah yeah)<BR/><BR/>Mikey must've stolen his diploma off some real attorney's wall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83235361224136288032007-06-12T13:59:00.000-04:002007-06-12T13:59:00.000-04:00Idiot...you are making points against yourself.......Idiot...you are making points against yourself....EXACTLY, you don't know why he is there other than to support his father.<BR/><BR/>So don't assume he is guilty of something/anything as a result.<BR/><BR/>Assuming things based on no evidence is for potbangers.<BR/><BR/>The son has done nothing to lead you to make any assumptions about him other than he supports his father.<BR/><BR/>None of us know why is there....yet you condemn him for it. What does that make you?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-44988878016594385812007-06-12T13:58:00.000-04:002007-06-12T13:58:00.000-04:001:53Really? So, every time a person is charged wi...1:53<BR/><BR/>Really? So, every time a person is charged with a crime we are supposed to believe that the cops got the wrong guy or framed the wrong guy, that this person is factually innocent?<BR/><BR/>You have no idea what the presumption of innocence means.<BR/><BR/>ALL it means is that the state has to prove its case based on evidence and that being charged in and of itself doesn't consistute any evidence of guilt, that's all.<BR/><BR/>This idea that people have today that you can't condemn someone or you are supposed to BELIEVE the person is innocent rather than refrain from judgement or that 'innocent until proven' guilty is for the public at large is another reason our society is falling apart and crime is rising again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43254949791073909342007-06-12T13:57:00.000-04:002007-06-12T13:57:00.000-04:00Just got back. It's really nice to be gone for a w...Just got back. It's really nice to be gone for a while and then catch up on the blog and the comments.<BR/><BR/>I assume the current witness is Wade Smith.<BR/><BR/>He's very sharp and didn't get tricked in the latest stuff about the claims of racial slurs.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11381497683202091939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49917369733856335032007-06-12T13:56:00.000-04:002007-06-12T13:56:00.000-04:00Hmm, so if my father commited murder what am I sup...Hmm, so if my father commited murder what am I supposed to do, pay for a defense lawyer to try and get him acquitted? If he raped someone would I smear his victim in public? I hope not.<BR/><BR/>You don't know why Nifong's son is there, for all you know he may be of the Wendy Murphy mindset that Mangum was raped by the 3 boys and got away with it. You Do Not Know Why He Is There.<BR/><BR/>Support for a family member who has done wrong should be done in private, not public.<BR/><BR/>How do you know the son doesn't approve of Nifong's actions? Do you know him? If you don't, you are talking out your a**.<BR/><BR/>I said he doesn't automatically deserve sympathy, you are free to feel sorry for him all you wantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24199196375891242312007-06-12T13:53:00.000-04:002007-06-12T13:53:00.000-04:00Anon 1:43, please move to Russia.Assuming innocenc...Anon 1:43, please move to Russia.<BR/><BR/>Assuming innocence always means that we presume people are not guilty until they are found guilty in a court of law.<BR/><BR/>Take a bow Mr. Potbanger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43539501576553340272007-06-12T13:51:00.000-04:002007-06-12T13:51:00.000-04:00Anon 1:43I guess you would abandon your father if ...Anon 1:43<BR/><BR/>I guess you would abandon your father if he committed a crime, robbed or murdered someone or the like.<BR/><BR/>You turn your back on loved ones when they make mistakes and do bad things. How big of you.<BR/><BR/>Personally I admire Nifong's kid for showing up and subjecting himself to abuse he doesn't deserve. <BR/><BR/>Your an idiot if you think he has approved of his father's actions by showing up and supporting him. He may very well acknowledge his father has done wrong, but he is man enough to support him anyway.<BR/><BR/>Apparently you are without sin and have lived a life that entitles you to cast stones. Congratulations, you're better than all of us.<BR/><BR/>Personally I think your line of thinking (especially that you would abandon your family if they made a mistake and needed you) is pretty sad.<BR/><BR/>I guess your family better hope they never screw up and need your support!!!~Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28930341840705851452007-06-12T13:48:00.000-04:002007-06-12T13:48:00.000-04:00Vengeance is sweet sayeth the Lord.Vengeance is sweet sayeth the Lord.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-42007790982102303512007-06-12T13:46:00.000-04:002007-06-12T13:46:00.000-04:00I think the honorable people involved in this whol...I think the honorable people involved in this whole case (KC of course being one along with the attorneys, players, families etc) are in search of justice. That's what these proceedings and in my opinion DIW are all about.<BR/><BR/>Let's keep that in mind and avoid the natural urge to seek vengence instead.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51893369171458350192007-06-12T13:43:00.000-04:002007-06-12T13:43:00.000-04:001:38,You are arguing about something that doesn't ...1:38,<BR/><BR/>You are arguing about something that doesn't even make sense, guilty of what?<BR/><BR/>I don't think the boy deserves AUTOMATIC sympathy, just like I don't think a criminal defendant is to be AUTOMATICALLY presumed innocent by anyone but the judge and the jury--that would mean assuming every time that the police were wrong, that isn't what presumed innocent means.<BR/><BR/>He has already given me a 'reason to think otherwise' by showing up at the hearing. I also have no sympathy for family members of criminal defendants who are always wailing about how their son/brother is innocent and was framed by the cops, everybody else is lying, blah, blah, blah.<BR/><BR/>His appearance is a show of support for Mike Nifong, which is a tacit approval of what Nifong did, I am not a believer that you support your family when they engage in criminal conduct in terms of trying to help them evade the consequences.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-55256842109446425332007-06-12T13:40:00.000-04:002007-06-12T13:40:00.000-04:00JLS says....,re: MBIf they did it by violating due...JLS says....,<BR/><BR/>re: <B>MB</B><BR/><BR/><I>If they did it by violating due process and the civil rights of the falsely-accused and convicted, then most definitely yes. </I><BR/><BR/>Exactly, this case is about a prosecutor violating his oath, not the race or sex or social position of anyone involved.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29660493452643183382007-06-12T13:39:00.001-04:002007-06-12T13:39:00.001-04:00West coast question: I'm trying to watch on WRAL;...West coast question: I'm trying to watch on WRAL; are they adjourned right now, or am I having problems playing the live video?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com