tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post1769992314446518553..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Bar Rebuttalkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger162125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35853942555121289542007-06-17T15:03:00.000-04:002007-06-17T15:03:00.000-04:008:57 --The only way I could picture wanting Nifong...8:57 --<BR/><BR/>The only way I could picture wanting Nifong as your lawyer (moot now, of course) is if you were guilty as sin of some very public loathsome offense, you knew everyone knew it, and the best you could hope for would be for someone else to commit some even more disgusting morally bankrupt act in the public eye to take the focus off you.<BR/><BR/>And then sit back and wait for Mike Nifong to commit that act.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7231824223588759912007-06-16T11:38:00.000-04:002007-06-16T11:38:00.000-04:00Mac, you are so hot.Mac, you are so hot.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-37074694683697544642007-06-16T06:41:00.000-04:002007-06-16T06:41:00.000-04:00Other just punishments:I would like to sentence th...Other just punishments:<BR/>I would like to sentence the 88<BR/>to a lifetime with Polanski.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35678450875061922682007-06-16T01:05:00.000-04:002007-06-16T01:05:00.000-04:00Remind me: Did a Grand Jury Indict?What happens t...Remind me: Did a Grand Jury Indict?<BR/><BR/>What happens to them?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47126990456604361682007-06-16T00:49:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:49:00.000-04:00Oh give me a break. Even if Nifong wanted to make ...Oh give me a break. Even if Nifong wanted to make a deal, what's in it for the bar?<BR/>If they were willing to make a deal before trial (to save the expense of going through the trial), why would they do it now, after the trial?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51130542932389249182007-06-16T00:43:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:43:00.000-04:00"If Nifong and the bar wanted to make a deal, why ..."If Nifong and the bar wanted to make a deal, why would Nifong go through with the trial?"<BR/><BR/>Simple. Nifong is stubborn. He probably wasn't in the mood to make a deal earlier.<BR/><BR/>He has been pummeled with the Bar trial and thus might be more agreeable to a deal now.<BR/><BR/>Make no bones about it, his resignation announcement today wasn't for the good of Durham County. There's something in it for him. That's the way he likely operates. Resignation is about the only piece of capital (of interest to the Bar) that Nifong holds at this point, that means it is the only thing he has to offer the Bar. Mabye a deal was done today. If my theory is correct, expect to see lighter Bar punishment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-9989857478365336932007-06-16T00:16:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:16:00.000-04:00What are the chances that Freedman will express th...What are the chances that Freedman will express the thoughts he shared about this case on the Abrams Report April 19, 2006 <BR/>http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12405242/<BR/>***********************************<BR/>ABRAMS: David Freedman, longtime North Carolina attorney, what are some of the legal community in North Carolina saying about this investigation, about the indictment, about the arrest, et cetera? <BR/><BR/>DAVID FREEDMAN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, that everything has been mishandled from the start. You had a district attorney coming out and making potentially unethical statements, saying he believed a crime occurred, which he should not do. He should not be commenting on the evidence. He took an adversarial position from the start.<BR/> * * * <BR/>FREEDMAN: I'm real surprised. It's not the D.A.'s job to get a conviction. It's the D.A.'s job to make sure justice is done, to make the truth is found out and rather than rushing and doing indictments two weeks before the primary is held, he should carefully—and because once you charge someone with offenses like this—I do a number of sex offenses—once the charge is brought, that's something that will tar these two students the rest of their lives, whether the charges are dismissed, whether they're acquitted, there will always be questions about that and it's just a D.A. should take his time and make a careful determination and look at all of the evidence and if he hadn't taken such a strong stand, he would have been able to view this evidence and the timeline beforehand before making this—going to the grand jury.<BR/>**********************************Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82366459336609639622007-06-16T00:07:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:07:00.000-04:00Is KC going to post at midnight.... I am dying to ...Is KC going to post at midnight.... I am dying to see his summary of the dayAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-85482116533963586512007-06-16T00:01:00.001-04:002007-06-16T00:01:00.001-04:00If Nifong and the bar wanted to make a deal, why w...If Nifong and the bar wanted to make a deal, why would Nifong go through with the trial?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35218970626762506472007-06-16T00:01:00.000-04:002007-06-16T00:01:00.000-04:00PROOF OF NIFONG'S STUPIDITYHe resigned to get symp...PROOF OF NIFONG'S STUPIDITY<BR/><BR/>He resigned to get sympathy; then he says something happened to the gorilla. The latter cancels out the former.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24119392347933900762007-06-15T23:59:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:59:00.000-04:00KC, If I were you, I'd go before the Bar right now...KC, If I were you, I'd go before the Bar right now ... for a toast.GaryBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02805265981497620290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-56396560320120538072007-06-15T23:58:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:58:00.000-04:00Tomorrow he wil say what he really meant was he wa...Tomorrow he wil say what he really meant was he was resigning his seat on the Animal Control Board...not his job!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-64730400502123412762007-06-15T23:56:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:56:00.000-04:00No one has mentioned the possibility that his pend...No one has mentioned the possibility that his pending resignation might be part of a deal. Perhaps resignation is traded for assurance that he won't be disbarred? Lawyers never do back room deals, yeah right.<BR/><BR/>There's NO WAY I believe his real resignation reasons remotely match the words he uttered to explain *why* he will resign.<BR/><BR/>Remember, this is a man who has been caught playing loose with the truth. Why expect honesty from him today?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-77437608591690131792007-06-15T23:51:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:51:00.000-04:00JLS says...,re: anon 11:42I only point out one mo...JLS says...,<BR/><BR/>re: <B> anon 11:42</B><BR/><BR/>I only point out one more incentive the bar has to disbar Nifong. The skeptics on Bar punishment have gone from a slap on the wrist to he will only be suspended not disbarred in 12 months.<BR/><BR/>He may or may not be disbarred. If I had to bet, I would bet he will be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4310920405345650222007-06-15T23:48:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:48:00.000-04:0011:46I hope so. But I think you are overly optism...11:46<BR/><BR/>I hope so. But I think you are overly optismistic.<BR/><BR/>Criminally? Not likely. Civilly? Also very tough.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-89978850217158168372007-06-15T23:47:00.001-04:002007-06-15T23:47:00.001-04:00JLS says...,re: anon 11:30 I don't necessarily di...JLS says...,<BR/><BR/>re: <B> anon 11:30 </B><BR/><BR/><I>I don't necessarily disagree that THAT is what happened. But it is all circumstantial. And it does not necessarily mean he is going to be disbarred. That is only my point.</I><BR/><BR/>Then don't repeat his sloppy or lazy excuse. But lots of people are convicted on circumstantial evidence.<BR/><BR/>BTW the Hearing chair did not seem to believe that when one defense lawyer made it quite clear they were looking for DNA of other men in the fall hearing that Nifong did not think to look in the "report" from DNA security.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-2856450431025990762007-06-15T23:47:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:47:00.000-04:0011:39...not being from NC, I will take your word f...11:39...not being from NC, I will take your word for it. Hard to accept the Bar could be soft, any way you look at it. No offense, but I hope in the end you're wrong about suspension v. disbarrment!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-27263353795274147922007-06-15T23:46:00.001-04:002007-06-15T23:46:00.001-04:0011:43 If you can't figure it out, you might want ...11:43 <BR/><BR/>If you can't figure it out, you might want to join the defense table next to Freedman and Witt.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31368122932565563912007-06-15T23:46:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:46:00.000-04:00DoofusesNifong will definitely be disbarred.The qu...Doofuses<BR/><BR/>Nifong will definitely be disbarred.<BR/><BR/>The question is whether he will be pursued criminally. I believe he will be.<BR/><BR/>Trinity '74Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87730296617957364482007-06-15T23:45:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:45:00.000-04:0011:43Please see all my posts.11:43<BR/><BR/>Please see all my posts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-22425988262467400062007-06-15T23:43:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:43:00.000-04:00What posts? If you post as "Anonymous", please do...<I>What posts? If you post as "Anonymous", please don't refer us to your prior posts. </I><BR/><BR/>Anonymous said... <BR/>And just to be clear from my posts, (1) I think Nifong should be disbarred (although I don't necessarily think it will happen); (2) I think this was a complete hoax; (3) I'm a lawyer and know something about disciplinary hearings and how they tend to turn out. I've read this blog from the beginning and agree completely these guys got railroaded from the beginning probably for political gain or a misplaced sense of doing justice. And I'm a Dukie. So this hurt. A LOT. <BR/><BR/>Jun 15, 2007 11:36:00 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82164834232570689552007-06-15T23:42:00.001-04:002007-06-15T23:42:00.001-04:00JLS:You are overly confident. I think Williamson ...JLS:<BR/><BR/>You are overly confident. I think Williamson is a good guy and wants justice. But disbarment is such a severe penalty. Without prior bad conduct....I don't know. I don't think the Bar is worried about "the Feds". I also have some skepticism about whether Nifong will be indicted or even successfully sued civilly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7477948041483729092007-06-15T23:42:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:42:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82435339086511718032007-06-15T23:39:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:39:00.000-04:0011:36Not as clear as you think (unless you have be...11:36<BR/><BR/>Not as clear as you think (unless you have been a faithful follower of KC's blog and the case). Lying to a judge by a lawyer is unethical (not illegal). Witholding exculpatory evidence is unethical (not illegal). But Nifong has offered a reason explaining why, i.e., I didn't withold it, I just didn't know it was there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15634426979377776572007-06-15T23:37:00.000-04:002007-06-15T23:37:00.000-04:00JLS says...,re: bernie Right Occam fits this perfe...JLS says...,<BR/><BR/>re:<B> bernie </B><BR/><BR/>Right Occam fits this perfectly. It is a very simple case. After this hearing, it appears to be more Nifong and less others.<BR/><BR/>re:<B> 11:22</B><BR/><BR/>You may think now reasonable minds can disagree about that bathroom, but the Bar has to worry about not disbarring him and then Wilson or Gottlieb ratting him out to the Feds. Everyone knows that Nifong sent Wilson out to subborn perjury in December, Wilson and Gottlieb tried to strong arm the cabbie etc. How do you think the NC bar will look if they did not disbar a prosecutor who soon after was indicted?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com