tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post2084139470848602537..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Reade Seligmann Statementkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-26389855895716678092008-02-12T19:26:00.000-05:002008-02-12T19:26:00.000-05:00Very nice post. I wish only happiness, peace, and ...Very nice post. I wish only happiness, peace, and healing for your family. Stand tall.<BR/><BR/>The same thing happened to my dad. Falsely accused of rape. Sadly he gets to spend the rest of his life in jail after being found guilty with no evidence. Only word against word. <BR/><BR/>Whatever happened to innocent until PROVEN guilty? Why is there such a rush to believe the accuser and to punish? Does it make us feel safer by reading it or seeing it in the media? Must the men and women of our judicial system strut and display their power at the cost of the accused and their families? It's sickening. Change needs to happen.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83591598493924720352007-09-04T05:25:00.000-04:002007-09-04T05:25:00.000-04:00Very interesting site. Blog is very good. I am hap...Very interesting site. Blog is very good. I am happy that I think the same!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3593730456848582112007-08-18T06:28:00.000-04:002007-08-18T06:28:00.000-04:00Thanks for interesting article.Thanks for interesting article.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68289099685206525372007-08-18T06:23:00.000-04:002007-08-18T06:23:00.000-04:00Nice Blog!Nice Blog!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53137514979491359412007-06-19T19:01:00.000-04:002007-06-19T19:01:00.000-04:00As a Black American female and Durham, NC resident...As a Black American female and Durham, NC resident, I would like to say that not all of thought these young men were guilty and we are not all racist, news reporters never wanted to speak to those of us who understand truth and innocent until proven guilty. <BR/><BR/>I am more than pleased with the outcome and am sadden that anyone would paint Black American’s in Durham or anywhere or any race with a broad brush. Nifong used a community’s hatred of an institution that employs a huge percentage of Durham residents and ignorance to gain reelection. <BR/><BR/>The biggest racist in the whole nightmare may very well be former DA Nifong, he played the race card and won reelection (and it cost him in the end, justice served); Miss Mangum allowed him to really rape her and no one wins. <BR/><BR/>The system worked because these young men come from families who had the resources to go the distance, we should all be so blessed, we should all work to build a life of comfort for our families and we should never begrudge anyone there financial success. <BR/><BR/>Broadhead was a wimp from day one and while he should be removed from his position as President of Duke University he will not be and Nifong and Miss Mangum both deserve a day in court. <BR/><BR/>Congratulations Reade, Collin and Dave.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87065863699393335312007-06-19T04:40:00.000-04:002007-06-19T04:40:00.000-04:00Wait and see how much ruin the families of these b...Wait and see how much ruin the families of these boys inflict on Nifong et al. It's unfortunate that people without money cannot feel the same sense of revenge-driven fulfillment that I am sure these families are aiming for.<BR/>I would not go so far as to call these boys heroes or sources of inspiration. What they have done for the world is purely passive, as they did not actually do anything good. They just did nothing bad. It would, loosely, be like thanking a stranger for not robbing my house. They deserve respect for their poise on camera. But does that really tell us anything truthfully about them? Many of you are making these boys out to be deities. That type of thinking is what got them into trouble in the first place. Why must everyone assume, either negatively or positively, that someone they read about or see on TV is a certain way?<BR/>I am happy that these young men were exonerated. It was the ultimate backfire in the face of a society and mass media that loves to see rich, white, privileged kids go down. Mostly it is the "rich" part that draws the attention, however...mostly.<BR/>I believe it is okay to give the benefit of the doubt to most people. But the GREAT majority of us do not know these kids. We only know that they did not rape what's-her-face.<BR/>Regarding Nifong, everything he has done up to this point has been suspect and he was, rightfully, disbarred. But you cannot say that he should kill himself or that he should be in the sewer. Remember that many of your views of him are swayed by the media, too. You do not know this man. You do not know if he is really evil (as many of you have already convicted him of being) or if he is a guy that made a HUGE mistake. Don't be hypocrites.<BR/>Matt H.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-55680605113950811952007-06-19T00:19:00.000-04:002007-06-19T00:19:00.000-04:00The sewer is too good for Nifong. If he was half a...The sewer is too good for Nifong. If he was half a man, he'd do what the Japanese used to do when they were disgraced. Mike, do everyone a favor and commit hara-kiri!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49205497494966954492007-06-18T18:22:00.000-04:002007-06-18T18:22:00.000-04:00That was an amazing statement. These boys are an i...That was an amazing statement. These boys are an inspiration.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51539576404610045042007-06-18T11:39:00.000-04:002007-06-18T11:39:00.000-04:00From the moment I heard the news that these boys w...From the moment I heard the news that these boys were being charged, I never believed it for a minute! I am so relieved and happy for them. I only wish that a picture of the accuser would be published. I don't recall seeing her face plastered all over TV like they did to these young men.<BR/><BR/>I was impressed by Reade this morning while being interviewed by NBC. I only wish that he did not sound so much like a politician when asked about how he felt he was treated by Duke. He is so well spoken that I believe he could have gotten his point accross that he was wronged by the school. Also, don't forget, these very stations who are now singing yor praises are the very ones who sounded like they presumed your guilt as well. The media did you wrong too!!!<BR/><BR/>This act of racism should not be forgotten. If this situation was the other way around, we would never be hearing the end of it! Whites need to speak up about the racism that occurs to them with much more avengence. We let it pass by way to much!<BR/><BR/>I would also like to say that I find the question, What makes a rich jock, blah blah blah.. absolutly repulsive. That person who wrote that does not posses an ounce of class and should join Nifong in the sewer.<BR/><BR/>Good luck at Brown!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-38657117636493616202007-06-18T09:55:00.000-04:002007-06-18T09:55:00.000-04:00Would like to tellReade Seligmann and the othertwo...Would like to tell<BR/>Reade Seligmann and the other<BR/>two. Do not go on ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN<BR/>for interviews.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57963369218548385122007-06-18T01:15:00.000-04:002007-06-18T01:15:00.000-04:00Reade Seligmann is truly a hero. I'm glad he has...Reade Seligmann is truly a hero. I'm glad he hasn't backed down from helping the case and wish the best for him. <BR/><BR/>I hope Crystal Mangum is charged ASAP.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4992505741950047422007-06-16T23:43:00.000-04:002007-06-16T23:43:00.000-04:00What person, persons or association hired the stri...What person, persons or association hired the stripper? Was Seligmann connected to them? <BR/><BR/>Did Seligmann visit other sexual exhibitions? <BR/><BR/>If the mob and the media were so intense in the initial clamor for Seligmann's hide, and were completely WRONG, why should we now believe that the mob and the media are all wholesdale RIGHT?<BR/><BR/>What makes a rich jock, who sobs in public about his problems, a hero?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78263124283101404412007-06-16T21:06:00.000-04:002007-06-16T21:06:00.000-04:00Praise God that Nifong was disbarred! Some justice...Praise God that Nifong was disbarred! Some justice was done today. Judgement day is coming for people like Nifong. God will not be mocked, a man reaps what he sows! Nifong will reap a harvest of regret and torment over this. Hopefully Nifong will repent of this evil and call it for what it is, evil.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49609004754487354242007-06-16T21:00:00.000-04:002007-06-16T21:00:00.000-04:00The disbarrment and resignation of Nifong today is...The disbarrment and resignation of Nifong today is a very very small punishment that he actually deserves for doing what he did to these good people. Its shameful that the race card is always played when its in the best interest of thoes playing it. Nifong should be thrown in jail for no less than 20 years for what he did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59112732773917499072007-06-15T17:41:00.000-04:002007-06-15T17:41:00.000-04:00Cried like a big sissy today at court.Cried like a big sissy today at court.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-66509110851990863112007-05-02T23:56:00.000-04:002007-05-02T23:56:00.000-04:00I miss Reade. We havn't hung out since freshman ye...I miss Reade. We havn't hung out since freshman year. Reade was one of my favorite guys ever since I met him! I don't have words. I just read yalls comments, and I needed to affirm it again, why not. I miss you like hell, reade!<BR/><BR/>-aliceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68943845954927115702007-04-16T21:14:00.000-04:002007-04-16T21:14:00.000-04:00http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/kevi...http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/kevin_armstrong/04/16/delbarton.seligmann/1.html<BR/>here is a great story about reade and the support of his alma mater Delbarton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33420331982302801192007-04-16T11:48:00.000-04:002007-04-16T11:48:00.000-04:00I sincerely hope a lawsuit is filed against Duke's...I sincerely hope a lawsuit is filed against Duke's spineless president, Richard Broadhead. Like Nifong, Broadhead convicted these young men in the media by firing the lacrosse coach and cancelling the season. If the three young men do not file a lawsuit, I would hope the Duke Board of Trustees will send this poor excuse for a college president packing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-32748014417905968962007-04-14T16:42:00.000-04:002007-04-14T16:42:00.000-04:00Geoff:Speaking of the self-absorbed . . .Geoff:<BR/><BR/>Speaking of the self-absorbed . . .Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78983396553468890862007-04-12T15:29:00.000-04:002007-04-12T15:29:00.000-04:00Fantastic statement by Reade. He is truly a remar...Fantastic statement by Reade. He is truly a remarkable young man who will go on to do great things. I wish him the best.<BR/><BR/>As a college student, who grew up in Annapolis, MD I have been surround by lacrosse my entire life. This whole situation really hit home when I realized that these 3 young men wrongfully prosecuted could have just as easily been some of my many friends playing college lacrosse. I have supported them from the beginning and am so glad to see that justice has finally arrived.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20680901635117691572007-04-12T09:08:00.000-04:002007-04-12T09:08:00.000-04:00"This past year has been the most difficult and pa...<I>"This past year has been the most difficult and painful period of my life..." </I><BR/><BR/>That's one of the largest understatements I think I'll ever read.Evil Sandmichhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06094558583013380137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7136830643096623362007-04-12T06:44:00.000-04:002007-04-12T06:44:00.000-04:00Mr. Seligman may end up beingthe Joseph in this st...Mr. Seligman may end up being<BR/>the Joseph in this story -<BR/>falsely accused by Potifer's<BR/>wife, ultimately being the<BR/>savior of both Egypt and Israel<BR/>during a time of famine.<BR/><BR/>The hottest fires temper the best<BR/>steel.<BR/><BR/>(That having been said, it would<BR/>be nice to see equal justice<BR/>for Nancy Grace, when compared <BR/>with Don Imus: Imus' ignorant <BR/>comments pale at what she attempted<BR/>to do to this fine young man.<BR/>Give her the hook!)<BR/><BR/>As for Reade's future,<BR/>I'm reminded of Tom Hank's <BR/>character's remark, when he says:<BR/><BR/>"James...earn this."<BR/><BR/>The big difference is that this<BR/>young man, Reade Seligman,<BR/>deserved none of the pain and<BR/>suffering he's been smothered<BR/>with. But still...we're expecting<BR/>great things from him.<BR/><BR/>Best Wishes, Young Man<BR/><BR/>MacAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-42431496628833667642007-04-12T02:32:00.000-04:002007-04-12T02:32:00.000-04:00Geoff,I don’t doubt for one second that similar in...Geoff,<BR/>I don’t doubt for one second that similar injustices to less ‘privileged’ citizens have occurred before. That said, it doesn’t make this case any less catastrophic. I’m not a lawyer or law official, and I’ve been lucky enough in my life to never stare down the false accusation gun barrel. B/c of KC’s work more people in positions of authority like Nifong are going to be darn sure to be accountable for their actions, and less likely to falsely prosecute ANYONE. My statement does not hold boundaries. No one deserves to be falsely accused and/or convicted of any crime, no matter what their race, class, or gender. This case became public for all the wrong reasons, and if there is a silver lining, it could be work like KC’s - helping not only the Duke kids, but all citizens who (to quote Reade) “may not have the resources to defend themselves” in the future.<BR/><BR/>I can’t help but address the absolute ignorance of your observation of Reade’s statement: “Wow. That's self-involved, highly dramatic, and a bit weird…This kid seems to have a pretty small worldview…it's one stupid and bizarre case for God's sake!” I’m sorry, but I think ANYONE facing a false charge punishable with 30 years in prison has the right to be ‘self involved’ on their day of exoneration.<BR/><BR/>Cheap shots like that and statements like “What about a million zillion other things?”are not going to build a lot of credit for you here today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53218057459504635542007-04-12T01:23:00.000-04:002007-04-12T01:23:00.000-04:00Bella just to clarify my point, which was probably...Bella just to clarify my point, which was probably articulated poorly, I fully agree that the presumption of innocence was thrown out in this case. It's terrible that happened. My only point it that generalizing to the argument "the whole justice system throws out the presumption of innocence and this is a huge problem" is a stretch. I don't think a lack of presumption of innocence is the biggest problem in the justice system, which is why I think focusing too much on this particular--and very non-typical--case could cause one to draw less than useful general conclusions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57269252818031017052007-04-11T23:42:00.000-04:002007-04-11T23:42:00.000-04:00"I don't think this case shows that the "presumpti..."I don't think this case shows that the "presumption of innocence" is out the window (it's one stupid and bizarre case for God's sake!)" - Geoff<BR/><BR/>Wow. Where do I start? I think anyone who posts on or even reads this blog and has followed this case can give you a long list of how these boys, and I'm sure many before them who haven't received such attention, were robbed completely of their right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty. Nifong never proved anything, as is evidenced by the AG's strong language today, namely his use of the word "innocent." Nifong saw an opportunity and, whatever the motivation, moved forward on this case, making comments about his certainty that a crime was committed and these boys committed it. But Nifong didn't act alone. So many members of the media , some of whom hold actual law degrees (ahem, Nancy Grace), who were so certain, even without evidence that these boys were guilty. Even when evidence to the contrary started to surface, many members of the media did not change their position. In the same token, Reade and Collin were kicked out of school, endured persecution by fellow students and professors, and saw the entire team punished for charges that had not been substantiated. <BR/><BR/>And I just focused on this case. So many people are presumed guilty based on race, gender, socioeconomic status, and so on. While this case defied what people would consider discrimination, these guys were pursued because they are white, male, and wealthy. Fortunately, they had the means to prove their innocence (although the DA should have had to prove their guilt), while others aren't so lucky.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com