tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post24048251405954697..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Whichard Committee Updatekcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-90137479893371995662007-08-15T13:36:00.000-04:002007-08-15T13:36:00.000-04:0010:34He would have been considered an ideal prosec...10:34<BR/><BR/>He would have been considered an ideal prosecutor in the Soviet Union.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-25601924455450644502007-08-15T10:34:00.000-04:002007-08-15T10:34:00.000-04:00Is Nifong a Communist?Is Nifong a Communist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6870450297009512362007-08-15T09:17:00.000-04:002007-08-15T09:17:00.000-04:00"I don't want anybody to rush to judgment to try t..."I don't want anybody to rush to judgment to try to meet some artificial time table we really don't have."<BR/><BR/>More like "It looks like we're not going to be able to avoid saying at least a few negative things, so let's wait until after Mayor Bell is reelected."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-37855946729972906252007-08-15T09:13:00.000-04:002007-08-15T09:13:00.000-04:00Haskell...No...what I heard was: "We may be slow, ...Haskell...<BR/><BR/>No...what I heard was: "We may be slow, but we're also sluggish."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29160286821409196402007-08-15T01:20:00.000-04:002007-08-15T01:20:00.000-04:00Sad to say but it feels like this case peaked at t...Sad to say but it feels like this case peaked at the DHC in June as far as validating our view of the case, and holding someone responsible. Unfortunately I think Nifong is the only one who will be called to account. It's hard to see who is even following this anymore, besides the few of us here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-39818472887360424252007-08-15T01:02:00.000-04:002007-08-15T01:02:00.000-04:00I thought he said: "We may be slow, but we do poo...I thought he said: "We may be slow, but we do poor work."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58583349337249967082007-08-14T23:54:00.000-04:002007-08-14T23:54:00.000-04:00It's a cover-up Big Time!At this point in time the...It's a cover-up Big Time!<BR/><BR/>At this point in time they don't know whether Gottlieb and Himan will testify? <BR/><BR/>They will sacrifice Chalmers, who's happy to be blamed on paper. He knew his part time work would have a price. He gets a sweet retirement, and it's not like he has a good reputation anyway. <BR/><BR/>Mark my words, they'll go after Chalmers and blame much on Nifong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4670679181404935922007-08-14T22:53:00.000-04:002007-08-14T22:53:00.000-04:00kc writes at 8:32: "I initially wasn't planning on...kc writes at 8:32: <BR/><BR/><I>"I initially wasn't planning on doing a book at all--if it hadn't been for Stuart's offer, the blog would have been my "publication" on the case.</I><BR/><BR/>Well ......... (planting tongue firmly in cheek) in addition to your book, be SURE to list your Blog and all of the previous and future <I>interviews</I> on your CV ...<BR/><BR/>In all seriousness, the blog should appear ... it is a hell of a piece of work!<BR/><BR/>One SpookOne Spookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592774438681904368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15754903750770335732007-08-14T21:48:00.000-04:002007-08-14T21:48:00.000-04:00Well, I'm not surprised.The Whichard Committee is ...Well, I'm not surprised.<BR/><BR/>The Whichard Committee is bending to the culture at Duke/Durham with a committee and typed report someday that is ...forthcoming.<BR/><BR/>I should have seen that one coming a month or so ago.<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12429133085759131462007-08-14T21:35:00.000-04:002007-08-14T21:35:00.000-04:00"... we didn't want to sacrifice speed for thoroug..."... we didn't want to sacrifice speed for thoroughness ..."<BR/><BR/>How many times did hizzoner have to practice saying that in front of a mirror before he could deliver it without breaking to gales of laughter.<BR/><BR/>From the moment the formation of this committe was announced, I expected neither speed nor thoroughness. I am confident that these people will live up (or should that be down?)to the Durham tradition of turning whatever they touch into crap.<BR/><BR/>As it relates to this committee: Draw the curtain, the farce is played.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-67565629784410135712007-08-14T21:17:00.000-04:002007-08-14T21:17:00.000-04:00I recall Stuart's commentary during the OJ Simpson...I recall Stuart's commentary during the OJ Simpson trial, which was always very good. When I saw that you were collaborating with him, I knew it would be a great book.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72999398308269712812007-08-14T20:42:00.000-04:002007-08-14T20:42:00.000-04:00I doubt that any bloggers are stirring up anything...I doubt that any bloggers are stirring up anything at Duke, Durham, DPD, DUMC or any other Lax related instituation. They are done with us and will continue to tough it out.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-17612703239467746532007-08-14T20:38:00.000-04:002007-08-14T20:38:00.000-04:00KC - I have a lot of respect for Stuart. My Harvar...KC - I have a lot of respect for Stuart. My Harvard law school family members think he is a diety, but I bought ten copies for XMas presents because of you. If I had to quess (in the words of Nifong) that is true of a lot of folk.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-71152114095798413592007-08-14T20:32:00.000-04:002007-08-14T20:32:00.000-04:00To the 8.26:Stuart initially got the contract; he ...To the 8.26:<BR/><BR/>Stuart initially got the contract; he (as had I) had expected that the case would go to trial and so a book wouldn't be finished till fall.<BR/><BR/>When that wasn't the case, he asked if I would collaborate, and I agreed. I initially wasn't planning on doing a book at all--if it hadn't been for Stuart's offer, the blog would have been my "publication" on the case. <BR/><BR/>The order of names is partly from Stuart getting the contract, but also a matter of distinction--Stuart is much better known than I am to just about anyone who hasn't followed the case closely.kcjohnson9https://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-77694498049597071962007-08-14T20:26:00.000-04:002007-08-14T20:26:00.000-04:00KC, why aren't you listed as first author on your ...KC, why aren't you listed as first author on your book? Even alphabetically this would have made sense. In academic review, this means you contributed less than the first author. Is this so? Why did you need a co-author, and is it the case that you contributed substantially less than Taylor? Or is it a matter of distinction and name recognition?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48915089408507955862007-08-14T20:21:00.000-04:002007-08-14T20:21:00.000-04:00a bif off-topic but how about a pro-feminist (perh...a bif off-topic but how about a pro-feminist (perhaps even mexican feminist) campaign to stop spousal hires at Duke. It is demeaning to the qualified women.<BR/><BR/>G88 should be happy to join the campaign..<BR/><BR/>perhaps an email to Duke feminist maililing lists to stir up the feminist G88 discussion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-70342398619557194102007-08-14T19:54:00.000-04:002007-08-14T19:54:00.000-04:00I think they are waiting for KC to leave the count...I think they are waiting for KC to leave the country and stop updating Durham in Wonderland.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12808565187625062682007-08-14T19:51:00.001-04:002007-08-14T19:51:00.001-04:00Isn't there a mayoral election this year? Whichar...Isn't there a mayoral election this year? Whichard has to protect his buddy Bell through to re-election.--BuddyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-30127585307294785762007-08-14T19:51:00.000-04:002007-08-14T19:51:00.000-04:00topher @ 6:54"deep blue" refers to Duke, hence the...topher @ 6:54<BR/><BR/>"deep blue" refers to Duke, hence the team and the players...<BR/><BR/>and 7:22<BR/><BR/>Unlike Duke, Durham almost certainly has to tough it out. Duke on the other hand hired public relations specialists to provide counsel on the "lacrosse problem." I know...I met one of their hires. (And this also begs the question why Duke with all its wisdom didn't require confidentiality agreements with its agents.)<BR/><BR/>But public relations specialists would counsel based upon expected behavior. SO to make Duke's administration accountable requires unexpected behavior...like an alumnus who, my sense tells me, has every right to be on campus,...carrying a sign as freshman arrive for orientation saying "Beware of the Gang of '88 --- google them" ---<BR/><BR/>I'd be willing to bet that an organized effort could even be of interest to national media ....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68969415370168291532007-08-14T19:41:00.000-04:002007-08-14T19:41:00.000-04:00It won't be a whitewash to the extent of claiming ...It won't be a whitewash to the extent of claiming that Nifuck and DPD did everything just great.<BR/><BR/>No, the report will say that what happened was just terrible -- and, was all the fault ("miraculously") of the 2 people who no longer work in law enforcement, namely Liefong and Chalmers.<BR/><BR/>And, any wrongdoing by Chalmers will be downplayed (or cast in terms of legally non-culpable negligence), because he worked for the City, which will continue to bear legal responsibility for his conduct (or his utter lack thereof).<BR/><BR/>Liefong is a State emplolyee, hence not the problem of the City which created this Committee, and, MUCH more importantrly, Liefong is not the problem of Durham's scumbag insurance company -- whose lawyers, you can bet, are really calling ALL the shots here. Insurance industry scumbags run the world -- don't believe anyone who tells you otherwise.<BR/><BR/>So, look for Whilchard et al. to say that the diligent, well-intentioned li'l DPD piggies, being good li'l piggies, did everything desired by the flaming flagrant criminal, Mike Nifuck, whom they recognized as supreme boss.<BR/><BR/>Of course, Liefong was NOT the police boss, but, in the lame abscence of "no-show" Chalmers, what else do we expect a low-life liar like Gottlieb to do -- but to give Liefong the exact lies that he craves?<BR/><BR/>Whilchard himself is a good man, but his Committee will issue a useless statement to the effect that dumbshit Durham cops had no idea they were intentionally framing innocent people -- no, no of course, they were merely "working with the information available" -- from lying piece-of-shit Nifong (instead of doing their jobs, by finding out the actual facts).<BR/><BR/>Sad, sad. I hope to hell I am dead wrong about this! Occasionally, as we have seen, truth and justice do triumph.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1803826193000450442007-08-14T19:22:00.000-04:002007-08-14T19:22:00.000-04:00Durham - like Duke is toughing it out. They do not...Durham - like Duke is toughing it out. They do not care what ousiders think about them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-30134828854101568402007-08-14T18:54:00.000-04:002007-08-14T18:54:00.000-04:00"we are seeing a "deep blue" checkmate in progress..."we are seeing a "deep blue" checkmate in progress. "<BR/><BR/>Huh? I understand the man vs computer chess reference...but which player is deep blue?Topherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13341013670537662616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41309957765443129922007-08-14T18:41:00.000-04:002007-08-14T18:41:00.000-04:00Counsel is probably scrubbing the file to determin...Counsel is probably scrubbing the file to determine potential problematic testimony and then how to avoid it without appearing to "whitewash." After all this is free discovery for the pending plaintiffs.<BR/><BR/>And, I'd be willing to bet that insurance companies have sent in their counsel to review. Those who are going to pay are the ones who would be motivated to evaluate early and, if exposed, attempt to settle early. Funny how money motivates action.<BR/><BR/>But, my hedge bet ... we are seeing a "deep blue" checkmate in progress.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4464370908377925362007-08-14T18:18:00.000-04:002007-08-14T18:18:00.000-04:00Excuse me? Could the one person who actually thin...Excuse me? Could the one person who actually thinks the Whichard Committee will NOT be a pathetic whitewash of the Duke hoax please raise their hand?<BR/><BR/>(Nope, that is not MY hand!)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20109289478380210772007-08-14T17:59:00.000-04:002007-08-14T17:59:00.000-04:00They don't want to know the truth because (to borr...They don't want to know the truth because (to borrow a phrase from Jack Nicholson), they can't handle the truth. (If they admit the truth, then they'll have to do something about it, and none of them want to do that).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com