tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post2629144455620885587..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Latest Bombshell Motionkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46167256733505047202007-02-28T16:38:00.000-05:002007-02-28T16:38:00.000-05:00Craig @ 1:46PM"This is very shrewd by the defense....Craig @ 1:46PM<BR/><BR/><I>"This is very shrewd by the defense. The honeymoon with the new SP team is over."</I><BR/><BR/><B>Bulls-eye!</B><BR/><BR/>~Duke '91Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-64219828455830357082007-02-28T13:46:00.000-05:002007-02-28T13:46:00.000-05:00The defense strategy seems clearly to put the new ...The defense strategy seems clearly to put the new SPs on the defensive. Given notice of a continuing breach of law by the prosecution (which they now control), it is the new SP's obligation to comply with law and provide full disclosure of evidence. This is the first act by the defense lawyers that absolutely requires action by the new SPs. The defense showed patience by waiting a few weeks for the SPs to get familiar with the case, but now the SPs must act to comply with law or they become accomplices by continuing in a breach of law.<BR/><BR/>This is very shrewd by the defense. The honeymoon with the new SP team is over.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01259162716207272853noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48910042658803543262007-02-28T11:30:00.000-05:002007-02-28T11:30:00.000-05:00USA Today.com mis-identifies State Bar with Bar As...USA Today.com mis-identifies State Bar with Bar Association --- again --- and claims CGM was only 18 at time of the rape. So much for a year's worth of investigation.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78038987908300935812007-02-28T09:31:00.000-05:002007-02-28T09:31:00.000-05:00"How is it possible that this case is still ongoin...<I>"How is it possible that this case is still ongoing, and that a criminal investigation of Nifong has not been opened in its stead?"</I><BR/><BR/>Perhaps because the civil suits can't begin until the criminal charges have been dropped? The SPs aren't there to protect the civil liberties of the Duke 3, they're there to protect the $$ interests of the City of Durham and the State of North Carolina (and to give political cover to Gov. Easley). If they drop the charges too quickly, isn't that a tacit acknowledgment that the charges should never have been brought and that the prosecution was, in fact, malicious? And that the State of North Carolina shares Nifong's culpability to some degree? Whereas, if they drag their feet it buys them time to formulate a strategy, and helps to suggest that there were in fact some evidentiary grounds for this case to have been brought. Ergo, the misconduct is strictly Nifong's but the state should not be held to account ($$) for that. Oh - and Gov. Easley shouldn't suffer any political fallout either.<BR/><BR/>~Duke '91Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87874706215143501992007-02-28T08:47:00.000-05:002007-02-28T08:47:00.000-05:00kt, thank you for tour explanation. This case is s...kt, thank you for tour explanation. This case is so incredible, I just keep thinking, "is it possible it is a set up and a bomb will go off"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-89082658224376224152007-02-28T08:11:00.000-05:002007-02-28T08:11:00.000-05:00Anon 7:22...This case really makes you embarassed ...Anon 7:22...<BR/><BR/>This case really makes you embarassed to be a North Carolinian and US citizen (assuming the likely -- i.e., that AG Gonzalez sees he has no place in this case)?<BR/><BR/>I'm getting jaded by some of my fellow supporters here... its great that this case caused such a groundswell of attention for civil rights and civil liberties... but the fight has been going on forever.<BR/><BR/>If this is the only time you've ever been embarassed, when the rights of these three particular boys were trampled upon... well I'm glad to have you aboard, but still... please don't accuse ME of being late to jump aboard because I happened to find out about this website much later than you. You're really the ones who seem to be jumping on a civil rights/civil liberties bandwagon.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-56330770742369203722007-02-28T07:22:00.000-05:002007-02-28T07:22:00.000-05:00I am embarrassed to say I'm a North Carolinian. I...I am embarrassed to say I'm a North Carolinian. I have utterly lost respect for our "laws" and our representatives. And if USAG Gonzales fails to intervene, the same goes for my U.S. citizenship!<BR/>Fed UpAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34010489845074758922007-02-28T07:02:00.000-05:002007-02-28T07:02:00.000-05:00Those currently controlling the case are nasty bas...Those currently controlling the case are nasty bastards - not all that different from Nifong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47939251857858750822007-02-28T02:03:00.000-05:002007-02-28T02:03:00.000-05:00Anon 1:24AM above misses the point.Like I said, un...Anon 1:24AM above misses the point.<BR/><BR/><I>Like I said, unless I'm really missing something this motion seems to be a smear job more than anything else.</I><BR/><BR/>This is not a smear job. This is the defense attorneys putting the SPs on notice that:<BR/><BR/>* the boys, their families, and their attorneys have been patient long enough. <BR/><BR/>* that the SPs have had sufficient time to evaluate the evidence and reach the conclusion that this "case" is a farce. <BR/><BR/>* and that if the SPs don't hurry up and drop the charges, then they'll start to look complicit in the ongoing prosecutorial misconduct - and they don't want that now do they?<BR/><BR/>~Duke '91Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79827608150746312472007-02-28T01:29:00.000-05:002007-02-28T01:29:00.000-05:00When will the attorney general of North Carolina, ...When will the attorney general of North Carolina, Mr. Cooper, bring on the criminal investigation of Nifong and bring charges against him? When will Mr. Cooper and Mr. Coman drop this absurd case against the three lacrosse players? When will Mangum be prosecuted? When will U.S. Attorney General Gonzales do his job? When will the Governor of North Carolina, Mr. Easley, act in the best interest of the citizens of the state? The legal clock is ticking; this could one of the biggest civil suits ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-69891944494142524142007-02-28T01:20:00.000-05:002007-02-28T01:20:00.000-05:00It's unreal to me that all this male DNA is found ...It's unreal to me that all this male DNA is found on the accuser and NONE of it is from any lacrosse player and three lacrosse players are still being prosecuted for sexual assault. Find me a precedent for this. Has there ever been a case with a fact pattern like this that has gone to trial? <BR/><BR/>This case is dead as a matter of law. If Coman and Winstead can't see that they are blind as a bat or playing politics. It's time for someone to act like an adult and put an end to this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-38626334853005055512007-02-28T00:24:00.000-05:002007-02-28T00:24:00.000-05:00To the anonymous poster from 5:21 PM: You can be s...To the anonymous poster from 5:21 PM: <BR/><BR/>You can be sure that the 11 samples that haven't been turned over from the prosecution are not from any of the LAX players, because that would've been the very FIRST thing that Nifong would have included in any report! He would have blasted that from the rooftops if any of their DNA had been found!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15833520238552552612007-02-27T23:30:00.000-05:002007-02-27T23:30:00.000-05:00The reason SBI didn't find anything-the Y-STR DNA ...The reason SBI didn't find anything-the Y-STR DNA testing done by Meehan's lab is much more sensitive than testing done by SBI.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-56182764318696383632007-02-27T22:38:00.000-05:002007-02-27T22:38:00.000-05:00I don't want to believe that my DOJ has better thi...I don't want to believe that my DOJ has better things to do than investigate a case of such massive civil rights violations. DOJ has enough lawyers to populate Rhode Island. Had President Bush called for an investigation, he would have more supporters at this time - just for doing the right thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-63058954412615400572007-02-27T22:36:00.000-05:002007-02-27T22:36:00.000-05:00To 3:56:A reasonable and rationale juror would see...To 3:56:<BR/>A reasonable and rationale juror would see things they way you or I would. But isn't it scary that overwhelmy at NCCU, the jounalsim class still beleive Crstal. They still feel the LAX players are guilty!<BR/>Colorblind opinions!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-21813693566991879072007-02-27T22:24:00.000-05:002007-02-27T22:24:00.000-05:00The news this evening reported that the latest DNA...The news this evening reported that the latest DNA test results found 12 DNA samples on and in her person from 5 different sources - that is to say, one person contributed more than one sample. It was also reported that the tests were able to detect the DNA from less than a single skin cell - that is even non-sexual contact could have been detected. The tests had to correct for any possible contamination from lab workers, and that opens an avenue for charges of evidence tampering (see OJ's "trial") and other true believers to hang their conspiracies on. This case is far from over. I doubt that the feds will step in as there is no upside potential. The state, being run by corrupt democrats, will not punish their own, and life will go one. Lawyers will make a lot of money, politicians will keep their jobs, except for those that Jim Black rats out, and Crystal will remain the repository for the hopes, dreams, aspirations and DNA of a community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82346149790823702772007-02-27T22:06:00.000-05:002007-02-27T22:06:00.000-05:00So if I read this correctly, the defense is still ...So if I read this correctly, the defense is still waiting for Electropherograms for 11 sperm and epithelial cell stains from the various sites: 15768-70,<BR/>15773,15779,15781-84 and 15815.<BR/><BR/>What I don't understand is why the defense waited to file this motion if they knew that Meehan didn't give them all the DNA data the second time around when ordered by the judge to disclose all exculpatory evidence ? Meehan and Nifong are now even in more trouble....<BR/><BR/>Is this a premptory move by the defense to put even more pressure on the new prosecution team ? <BR/>This disclosure of new "sperm donors" and request for all the evidence yet again makes it all the more impossible to put CGM on the stand. The defense could spend literally weeks subjecting CGM to cross examination about each and every sperm sample found in her various orifices. The prosecution, the state, the county, the NAACP and the Group of 88 will be severely embarassed that they believed this woman if this hoax ever comes to trial. One thing is clear - The NC justice system is not even on par with 19th century standards of jurisprudence.<BR/><BR/>Orange LazarusAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80295950890486313272007-02-27T21:45:00.000-05:002007-02-27T21:45:00.000-05:00How many of Nifong's past convictions will be over...How many of Nifong's past convictions will be overturned because of this stunt? <BR/><BR/>How many millions will Nifong cost the taxpayers of NC in legal fees for re-trials that every one of his convictions will demand (and should demand) based on the fact that Nifong tried to frame innocent people? <BR/><BR/>Finally how many real rapists will be back on the street because he tried to put three non rapists in prison?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83449113528070676082007-02-27T21:27:00.000-05:002007-02-27T21:27:00.000-05:00Did they remember to also check her nostrils and e...Did they remember to also check her nostrils and ear canals?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-44087737655826076102007-02-27T20:52:00.000-05:002007-02-27T20:52:00.000-05:00KC,Talked with my Bar Buddy this afternoon and rel...KC,<BR/>Talked with my Bar Buddy this afternoon and relayed to him the latest motion and the fact that Nifungu and Meehan had withheld more evidence. As you know he is a Bar Counselor.<BR/>He said without blinking an eye "If this is true, Nifungu is going to get indicted."<BR/><BR/>Put a fork in Mikey, he's done.<BR/><BR/>KempAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-36819138775259039652007-02-27T20:38:00.000-05:002007-02-27T20:38:00.000-05:00I just read the motion. Wow! Now why did the att...I just read the motion. Wow! Now why did the attorney’s wait to make this move about a week before the next hearing? I haven’t heard anything about the special prosecutors turning over more discovery to the defense (they are under the same legal obligations). Did they run out of patience? Were they busy with other matters? I read that AV was interviewed by the prosecutors. Wait, could it be, the defense team is gambling that her story has changed again? Will this motion prompt another interview with the AV and another change in her story? If there is a pool put me down for 32 mutually exclusive versions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-8279005440522013852007-02-27T20:16:00.000-05:002007-02-27T20:16:00.000-05:004:20pm wrote:If any of the parties were brought up...4:20pm wrote:<BR/><BR/><I>If any of the parties were brought up on charges of violating a Federal criminal statute, then okay... <B>but in the absence thereof</B>, this is NOT the kind of thing Alberto Gonzalez has the time to waste on.</I><BR/><BR/>Ummm...not to be rude but....DUH! <BR/><BR/>By the way: people of ALL races, ethnicity, income level have civil right protections.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35711749292763883122007-02-27T19:19:00.000-05:002007-02-27T19:19:00.000-05:00There is no way that after seeing the results of t...There is no way that after seeing the results of the DNA testing (which he then conspired to hide from the defendents) Nifong believed that CGM was raped. He would have tried to find out just who all that DNA was from and run out looking for the real perps. He knew her body and panties were a cornucopia of Durham males' DNA, and he knew how it all got there. Her hygeine was clearly nonexistent--disgusting!!!!!! This was a railroad job to the DA primary victory, pure and simple.<BR/><BR/>duke2009momAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-70743941134753590142007-02-27T18:40:00.000-05:002007-02-27T18:40:00.000-05:00Does anyone have an idea on what the going rate fo...Does anyone have an idea on what the going rate for two 'exotic dancers' is? <BR/><BR/>$800 sounds kind of like there is an expectation of sex. Anyone have an idea what Bunny Hole is known for?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15510929495706527842007-02-27T17:53:00.000-05:002007-02-27T17:53:00.000-05:00As much as I support these boys, I think the Attor...<I>As much as I support these boys, I think the Attorney General has better things to do.</I><BR/><BR/>What does the AG consider important, and the job of the FBI?<BR/><BR/>If the KKK threatens you, who do you turn to for help, if the local DA is meeting with them and the local police are corrupt?<BR/><BR/>If the FBI is 'too busy', then do we just have to give up our constitutional rights because nobody will enforce them?<BR/><BR/>Maybe they think the constitution needs to 'shed a little fat', and guarantee fewer rights (like a speedy trial--that restraint on the power of the state to wear out defendants has been around since Magna Carta. I guess NC hasn't gotten the word yet.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com