tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post308590037736200074..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Nifong Disbarred: Official Findingskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger153125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80096194688232186722007-07-14T22:46:00.000-04:002007-07-14T22:46:00.000-04:00Before the Tara Trolls shoot from the hip againwit...Before the Tara Trolls shoot from the hip again<BR/>with incorrect information, they might want to check <BR/>out Tara Levicy's Jan 10, 2007 statement posted at<BR/>the link below. On the 2nd page, she specifically<BR/>talks about Magnum saying she was wiped down<BR/>with a rag in the bathroom. Oh, I thought she<BR/>never said that???? <BR/><BR/>http://p206.ezboard.com/fhackedbannedandlockeddownfrm45.showMessage?topicID=75.topicMikeZPurduehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607714354649967842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51322198160004215402007-07-14T18:50:00.000-04:002007-07-14T18:50:00.000-04:00Hey Mac! Again I say, you rock! I appreciate you...Hey Mac! Again I say, you rock! <BR/>I appreciate your support -- thanks!<BR/><BR/>You are right, it is absolutely pointless<BR/>to argue with the Tara Trolls. I am sorry that<BR/>I let myself get dragged into it with them.<BR/>I didn't realize they were so illogical in their<BR/>blind defense of Taras's words and actions that<BR/>enabled Nifong. <BR/><BR/>I didn't make up anything. You need to look<BR/>back what I wrote -- your zealousness is causing<BR/>you to say things too quickly. I didn't say Ms<BR/>Levicy said that the boys wiped Ms Magnum down.<BR/>I said that she said something that would imply<BR/>that they wiped her down.<BR/><BR/>It was reported that she said "just because there is<BR/>no physical evidence, that doesn't mean that it (the rape)<BR/>didn't happen." Now, after a brutal rape by<BR/>three attackers in which Tara admitted in court<BR/>that Ms Magnum said NO condoms were used,<BR/>how else do you get rid of the phsyical evidence?<BR/>other than wiping her down? hose her down?<BR/><BR/>Of course, even wiping her down would not have<BR/>gotten rid of DNA evidence, especially not the<BR/>transfer DNA.<BR/><BR/>And the claim that<BR/>we are not able to answer the real questions in<BR/>this event -- it's laughable (now that's "Too funny"), <BR/>it's pathetic, it speaks of delusions of grandeur,<BR/>and to be honest it's a big scary too (that a <BR/>person would so blind to the obvious truths here.)<BR/><BR/>To claim that SANR nurses do not assist police<BR/>in assessing whether a rape occurred is the most<BR/>laughable thing that they said. Check this web site:<BR/>http://www.montrosepress.com/articles/2006/12/10/local_news/2.txt<BR/><BR/>Tara Trolls: you can say what you want -- I am<BR/>not coming back to this particular thread. So go<BR/>ahead with your inSANE comments! :)MikeZPurduehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607714354649967842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-2677220569556593472007-07-14T11:13:00.000-04:002007-07-14T11:13:00.000-04:00I could call you, the Ks troll, but find that lang...I could call you, the Ks troll, but find that language stupid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78875859089816595232007-07-14T11:12:00.000-04:002007-07-14T11:12:00.000-04:00Just goes to show that you know nothing about nurs...Just goes to show that you know nothing about nursing. You and Michael are unable to answere the real questions in this event.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-55396782081880813442007-07-14T07:33:00.000-04:002007-07-14T07:33:00.000-04:00Michael:We don't need to be arguing with Tara's Tr...Michael:<BR/>We don't need to be arguing with Tara's Trolls; <BR/>they can't be convinced by clear evidence, <BR/>by Tara's many inconsistent and moronic statements <BR/>(as transcribed by investigators)<BR/>and they can't be bothered to look these up on Liestoppers,<BR/>choosing instead (on one post) to <BR/>claim that I "made them up."<BR/><BR/>In short, Tara's Trolls have the same M.O.<BR/>as the 88: unapologetic and<BR/>incapable of critical thinking.<BR/><BR/>What we know is: Levicy was a silly SANE who made ridiculous comments <BR/>and assertions of her beliefs, mostly unsupported by clinical evidence or data, <BR/>and that even Nifong came to that realization by January 12. <BR/><BR/>Too bad that Tara's Trolls aren't even as observant as Nifong.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-89284736724996118362007-07-14T07:23:00.000-04:002007-07-14T07:23:00.000-04:00I like the post that states that 7 months is a "lo...I like the post that states that 7 months is a "lot of experience" <BR/>for a nurse!<BR/><BR/>Wow.<BR/><BR/>You really proved your mettle here!<BR/>YDKJS( you don't know jack shit)machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-75588124270724483302007-07-13T19:19:00.000-04:002007-07-13T19:19:00.000-04:00Sorry Mac - I did accusser again.Sorry Mac - I did accusser again.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-348019857394852212007-07-13T19:09:00.000-04:002007-07-13T19:09:00.000-04:00That is the big point - we only have the word of t...That is the big point - we only have the word of three liars that she commented on the event. Most of us do not say "it is not our job" - The lab results tell the tale. The point of the materials being collected and sent to the lab for testing is to determine if there is any DNA, seman, etc to connect the claim of rape to the accused. The Doctor and Nurse just collect the materials and the accusser answers to checklist Q$A. My "never raped" was satire.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-85597935913974427542007-07-13T19:02:00.000-04:002007-07-13T19:02:00.000-04:00Nifon specifically said "He did not read most of t...Nifon specifically said "He did not read most of the nurse's report". The police knew very quickly that no DNA matched the team. They also knew the medical report demonstrated no evidence of rape. This was about votes and an election - not about rape.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-74870224882563972892007-07-13T18:57:00.000-04:002007-07-13T18:57:00.000-04:00No - actually what Nifong said on TV 3/29 - in liv...No - actually what Nifong said on TV 3/29 - in living color - was "My reading of the emergency nurse's report indicates a rape occured." That was seven days before the medical report was picked up. The medical report did not support his lying eyes. You got it all wrong - again. He claimed he never read anything - were we watching the same trial? What about the "wipe down"? what about a staff nurse helping the police decide if a rape occured? Too funny!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12141468814598669792007-07-13T18:51:00.000-04:002007-07-13T18:51:00.000-04:00To 5:32, towards the beginning of Mr Nifong'stesti...To 5:32, towards the beginning of Mr Nifong's<BR/>testimony, he stated that he believed that a<BR/>rape had occurred based on statements from<BR/>a SANE nurse and two policeman (who based<BR/>their belief in part on the SANE nurse's belief in<BR/>a rape.)<BR/><BR/>So, you must have just burst out laughing when<BR/>you heard that? "Too funny"MikeZPurduehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607714354649967842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35869853582704785232007-07-13T18:23:00.000-04:002007-07-13T18:23:00.000-04:00If it is not PART of the SANE nurse's job to help ...If it is not PART of the SANE nurse's job to help police<BR/>determine if an allegation of rape is credible,<BR/>then when Ms Levicy was asked by the police<BR/>whether she thought Ms Magnum's claim of<BR/>rape was credible, why didn't she answer<BR/>"that is not my job to assess that" ?<BR/><BR/>Why did the police even ask her that question?<BR/><BR/>Also, what is the point of the various tests that she<BR/>performed on Ms Magnum? I thought the results<BR/>of those tests are provided to police to assist<BR/>them in determining if a rape occurred.<BR/><BR/>Why do you bring up Ms Levicy's personal experiences?<BR/>They should not be a factor here. What was<BR/>the point of her making that statement?<BR/>The implication seemed to be that part of the<BR/>reason that she believed Ms Magnum was that<BR/>personally has never known a woman to lie about<BR/>rape. But, as a trained professional, she should<BR/>still be aware that false allegations of rape do happen.<BR/><BR/>Regarding your last statement, that logic could<BR/>not be deduced from anything I said whatsoever<BR/>-- in fact, the exact opposite. My point is that<BR/>just because she has not encountered a woman<BR/>who has falsely alleged rape (until Ms Magnum),<BR/>that doesn;t mean that false allegations of rape<BR/>don't happen. THUS, logically, it follows that just<BR/>because you have never met a woman that has<BR/>been raped, doesn't mean that rape doesn't happen.<BR/><BR/>I have a cousin who was raped, a former girlfriend<BR/>who was raped, and my own daughter was molested.MikeZPurduehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607714354649967842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12792906629670043282007-07-13T17:32:00.000-04:002007-07-13T17:32:00.000-04:00Although Nurses Peggy Perfect portrayed themselves...Although Nurses Peggy Perfect portrayed themselves as Florence Nightingale, even they did not claim that nurses help the police to determine whether a rape occured or not. Too Funny.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-69228536525319396092007-07-13T17:24:00.000-04:002007-07-13T17:24:00.000-04:00No - it is not part of the job to help LE determin...No - it is not part of the job to help LE determine whether or not there was a rape. That is only the job of the Police. Where do you come up with this stuff? <BR/>Levicy never commented on a "wipe down" You made that up also.<BR/>Maybe she has never met a woman "who lied about rape" Neither you or I know her experiences.<BR/>I have never met a woman who said she was "raped". Does that mean no rapes occur?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82384699405032872582007-07-13T17:16:00.000-04:002007-07-13T17:16:00.000-04:00Hey mac, you rock! Very good points!To 11:48 and...Hey mac, you rock! Very good points!<BR/><BR/>To 11:48 and 11:50: Although I could not find that<BR/>statistic, that 1/3 of rapes involve no ejaculation,<BR/>let's go with it. Now, at some point Ms Magnum<BR/>settled on the number 3 as the number of attackers.<BR/><BR/>So, assuming the three attackers to be statistically<BR/>independent on the matter of ejaculation, it follows<BR/>that the probability of there being no semen at all<BR/>deposited on Ms Magnum drops to 1/3 raised to<BR/>the third power. That is, the probability drops to less than 4%.<BR/><BR/>I usually would not comment on someone being<BR/>not too bright, but when that unintelligence is<BR/>used to hurt people, as was done here, that's<BR/>another matter all together.<BR/><BR/>Comments that Ms Levicy made implied that<BR/>she thought that they the boys did something<BR/>like wiping Ms Magnum down afterwards, to<BR/>explain why there was no DNA found. <BR/>I am sorry but she should have known<BR/>enough about DNA testing to realize the<BR/>absurdity of that statement. Eventually,<BR/>defense counsel explained this to her, which<BR/>prompted her call to the DA's office to add<BR/>another possibility for why no semen was found:<BR/>that it (rape) didn't happen.<BR/><BR/>Of course, she also opened the door to<BR/>the possibility that condoms were used, even<BR/>though Ms Magnum said they weren't. ("She's<BR/>being raped, so the victim can never be sure")<BR/><BR/>Okay, so here's the scenario. Boys drinking at<BR/>party with strippers have the sense of mind,<BR/>despite their drunkenness and mental thirst<BR/>to power dominate, to put condoms on during <BR/>this brutal attack AND then further, despite<BR/>their drunken state, have the presence of mind<BR/>to wipe her down afterwards.<BR/><BR/>And, let's not forget another one of her "dumb"<BR/>statements: "I have never known a woman to lie<BR/>about being raped." This is one of the scariest<BR/>statement she made; it was the root of her<BR/>other efforts to explain away the lack of any<BR/>phsyical evidence (which, as pointed out above,<BR/>is not her job.)<BR/><BR/>It's a tragedy when it happens<BR/>and there are typically psychological issues, but<BR/>false allegations of rape happen. Part of<BR/>her job is to help the police determine if an<BR/>allegation of rape is credible. If she had done<BR/>her job properly, Nifong would not have been<BR/>enabled to spawn this whole tragic affair.MikeZPurduehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16607714354649967842noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58841183109095420872007-07-13T16:53:00.000-04:002007-07-13T16:53:00.000-04:00This is not the same and it is disingenous of you ...This is not the same and it is disingenous of you to suggest it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84949211092740715232007-07-13T15:10:00.000-04:002007-07-13T15:10:00.000-04:00"No complaints from her governing body - NC Board ..."No complaints from her governing body - NC Board of Nursing."<BR/><BR/>Hmmmm, isn't that the same line used by Nifong? 'No complaints from Judge Smith, therefore Judge Smith thinks I did nothing wrong'? We saw how well that worked out for him...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-45962183812051617042007-07-13T13:35:00.000-04:002007-07-13T13:35:00.000-04:00I only recognized the dropped T----you dropped it....I only recognized the dropped T----<BR/>you dropped it. My, we are testy today, aren't we? Headache?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29620050498177964042007-07-13T13:08:00.000-04:002007-07-13T13:08:00.000-04:00well, Ralph - what is your answer to the rest of t...well, Ralph - what is your answer to the rest of the post" BTW, We do not know what she told Nifong eleven months later in January. That is quess work. I do agree she is a minor fiqure and not the lynchpin of the hoax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-39424328026588086922007-07-13T12:46:00.000-04:002007-07-13T12:46:00.000-04:00If you can not recognize a dropped T, you are doin...If you can not recognize a dropped T, you are doing more than coke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-912548096006228712007-07-13T12:24:00.000-04:002007-07-13T12:24:00.000-04:00"no all of you do?" HicActually it was at 11:00 A..."no all of you do?" Hic<BR/><BR/>Actually it was at 11:00 AM with my 2nd Diet Coke which, while it will produce certain euphoric effects, hardly classifies as a "haze."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-2366457770844321562007-07-13T11:33:00.000-04:002007-07-13T11:33:00.000-04:00No all of us on this board drink alcohol - obvious...No all of us on this board drink alcohol - obviously you do. Maybe you were reading through an alcohol haze.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52962527509533098712007-07-13T11:31:00.000-04:002007-07-13T11:31:00.000-04:00Even if the Whichard committee has no authority t...Even if the Whichard committee has no authority to question under oath, I would think in a civil case a witness could be asked "For the Whichard committee hearings, you said the moon is green cheese, so why do you now say under oath it is brae?"<BR/><BR/>Bill AlexanderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6623175333370493592007-07-13T11:05:00.000-04:002007-07-13T11:05:00.000-04:00I think everybody is sleeping it off this morning....I think everybody is sleeping it off this morning. That was a Hell of a bizarre chat-room going on here last night! I haven't seen a conversation disintegrate that fast since I gave up drinking Captain Morgan with my book club.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-54014751075699078302007-07-13T11:00:00.000-04:002007-07-13T11:00:00.000-04:00"The old "correct the DA in public" is not her dut..."The old "correct the DA in public" is not her duty - The sainted Sgt Sheldon did not do that either."<BR/><BR/>Neither did he modify his reports to fit the story of the day, or talk to the press. Tara did. If she had restricted her interactions with Nifong to "you've got my report," and not spoken to the press, she'd be fine. <BR/><BR/>It's the things she said to investigators and reporters after the "no dna" evidence came out that damn her.<BR/><BR/>I don't think she's legally liable for anything, as her role was pretty minor. I'm making a moral judgement based on her willingness to actively support the frame as late as December, however ineffectual her efforts may have been.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com