tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post3121940868433913396..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Blythe: Meehan Is Outkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger34125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34372665740897785792007-11-18T14:36:00.000-05:002007-11-18T14:36:00.000-05:00Just hope that Meehan and other vital witnesses fo...Just hope that Meehan and other vital witnesses for the Duke 3 are being well fed and cared for in some HARD to find location.<BR/><BR/>Prostitution rings are often linked to big time crime syndicates, and not just small time operators like the dpd. The big boys don't like to have their playhouses messed up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-26682683551125363862007-11-18T06:43:00.000-05:002007-11-18T06:43:00.000-05:00As far as I am concerned,anyone who played a delib...As far as I am concerned,anyone who played a deliberate, active part in the frame up is a schoolyard bully. <BR/><BR/>It matters little to me whether they are a truly aggressive bully like Gottlieb and Curtis, or if they're like the rest of the kids circled around the kid being beaten half to death chanting "go, go, go, go" while doing absolutely NOTHING to stop the beating and help the child being bullied. If they did nothing in the affirmative to help the bullied child, they're bullies too in my mind. <BR/><BR/>Did you ever see that happen on *your playground"? I did. And that's what happened in Durham too.<BR/><BR/>BTW...I have adopted Anon #1 as a tag, so that folks "know" who I am and wont confuse me with the other Anons here. :))Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-65490068492650376812007-11-17T19:11:00.000-05:002007-11-17T19:11:00.000-05:009:38PM Gottlieb and Curtis are bullies, I think. ...9:38PM Gottlieb and Curtis are bullies, I think. I do not get that impression from the rest of the names you put forth. Least of all Meehan. He is like the soft kid who everyone else bullied. BTW, another RN came to work, not a sexual assualt nurse examiner - that is why the Doctor did the Physical exam and collected the swabs.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29894786588941936132007-11-16T21:38:00.000-05:002007-11-16T21:38:00.000-05:00Gary Packwood said... ...Anon here again......The ...<I>Gary Packwood said... <BR/>...Anon here again...<BR/>...The Duke 3 don't really want Meehan anyway--he's got nothing ( no $$), but he DOES have the dirt on those he helped frame up the boys. If he flips to their side, he can help them bring down DPD, Nifong and City of Durham. Not sure he can help 'em with Duke though.<BR/>...Think about it...what does Meehan stand to lose if he does this? What does he stand to gain? <BR/>::<BR/>I think you make many good points.<BR/><BR/>He also has all of the story on the chain of custody of the evidence as he is required to have and I am not sure that story has been told. And I mean chain of custody all of the way back to who was in contact with Crystal from the minute she left that lax house; arrived at the Rape Center; was transported to the hospital and ...who was in contact with her for all of those hours she was sitting or sleeping in the hospital before the Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner came to work.<BR/><BR/>He will also know about the appropriate age of the DNA that was given to him for analysis.<BR/><BR/>Those issues may not be in his contract with the DA but he will knows the answers.<BR/>::<BR/>GP<BR/><BR/>11/16/07 12:10 AM</I><BR/><BR/>I think Meehan will be instrumental in helping the Duke 3 take down the *real* thugs in this story. <BR/><BR/>Meehan's like the bully in "A Christmas Story". Remember him? Remember Ralphie finally getting fed up with the bully and just beating the hell out of the bully? <BR/><BR/>Yeah...Ralphie's cussing away, pummeling the bully right about now, and the bully is laying in the snow with a bloody nose and lip, crying for his Mommy.<BR/><BR/>The only way to stop the beating is to agree to be Ralphie's friend and help Ralphie deal with the other bullies on the playground. <BR/><BR/>Unless they're taught their lesson in childhood, playground bullies grow up to be bullies like Nifong, Meehan, Brodhead, Holloway, Curtis, Gottlieb, Himan, Levicy, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc. <BR/><BR/>They'll keep bullying people they come in contact with, until someone finally stands up to them forcefully and says enough. That's what the Duke 3 are doing now.<BR/><BR/>Hmmmmm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-66579326099109734652007-11-16T12:59:00.000-05:002007-11-16T12:59:00.000-05:00Chain of custody mystery? You got to be kidding. L...Chain of custody mystery? You got to be kidding. Like, I thought the DNA analysis by the labs exonerated the team and defendents. Another conspiracy???Who was in contact at DUMC while Crystal was passed out on a stretcher was three doctor and four nurses - until Manly/Levicy arrived on the scene and Crystal was Dumped on them, by the others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53524776751659007172007-11-16T11:54:00.000-05:002007-11-16T11:54:00.000-05:00Ooh - bad karma to wish ill will to others. As Jac...Ooh - bad karma to wish ill will to others. As Jack Parr said "People will tear their own tinfoil and need no help from us."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-86545740405134642132007-11-16T06:45:00.000-05:002007-11-16T06:45:00.000-05:00KC> thanks for keeping up with this, I hope Dr. Me...KC> thanks for keeping up with this, I hope Dr. Meehan's life is ruined after he helps the guys get to the truth. I hope the main characters are punished with jail time after the civil suits are over. None of them have any money to speak of, I'm not confident of satisfaction there, but if there is a payout, good for the guys.<BR/>After all this time, it is still difficult to read what is going on down there. Three innocent young men were almost destroyed, their families included. because of the bias of a significant number of grownups in positions of authority. They are still being slandered from time to time and there are still some who actually believe they are guilty on the faculty of Duke and in the african american community.Dr. Meehan deserves nothing more than scorn for his role and any misery that can be brought his way. He may be a scientist, but he isn't an ethical one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18493942536752790022007-11-16T06:18:00.000-05:002007-11-16T06:18:00.000-05:00JLS 12:16 and Anon 3:54 (and Inman)Good speculatio...JLS 12:16 and Anon 3:54 (and Inman)<BR/><BR/>Good speculation. It would expedite matters if everything proceeded as-speculated. <BR/><BR/>In any case, Meehan is to obfuscation what #3 (Dale Earnhardt) was to intimidation.<BR/><BR/>"The Obfuscator" may have other tricks up his sleeve. He may also know about something the alleged sexual misconduct charges being pursued in the Dee Pee Dee?<BR/><BR/>Here's a raised glass and a hope that you're right.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29799298092744421762007-11-16T00:10:00.000-05:002007-11-16T00:10:00.000-05:00...Anon here again......The Duke 3 don't really wa......Anon here again...<BR/>...The Duke 3 don't really want Meehan anyway--he's got nothing ( no $$), but he DOES have the dirt on those he helped frame up the boys. If he flips to their side, he can help them bring down DPD, Nifong and City of Durham. Not sure he can help 'em with Duke though.<BR/>...Think about it...what does Meehan stand to lose if he does this? What does he stand to gain? <BR/>::<BR/>I think you make many good points.<BR/><BR/>He also has all of the story on the chain of custody of the evidence as he is required to have and I am not sure that story has been told. And I mean chain of custody all of the way back to who was in contact with Crystal from the minute she left that lax house; arrived at the Rape Center; was transported to the hospital and ...who was in contact with her for all of those hours she was sitting or sleeping in the hospital before the Sexual Assault Nurse Examiner came to work.<BR/><BR/>He will also know about the appropriate age of the DNA that was given to him for analysis.<BR/><BR/>Those issues may not be in his contract with the DA but he will knows the answers.<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-862296075861525372007-11-15T22:56:00.000-05:002007-11-15T22:56:00.000-05:003:54 You could be right - that makes sense.11/15/0...<I>3:54 You could be right - that makes sense.<BR/><BR/>11/15/07 7:44 PM</I><BR/><BR/>Thanks! Of course, it remains to be seen if this theory of mine is what is actually playing out, but it does make a lot of sense. At least to me.<BR/><BR/>I also agree with Inman. Linwood Wilson might also have bargained with the Duke 3 to be let out of the suit--in return for his complete and total cooperation. <BR/><BR/>There's a reason both of these guys don't seem to be sweating filing a response to the lawsuit by early December. The only plausible reason (to me) would be they know they're going to be dropped from the suit.<BR/><BR/>If *I* were one of the targets of this suit, I'd have already lawyered up the day it was filed. There's no way I'd have left hiring a lawyer to this late date. To do that would be totally irresponsible. <BR/><BR/>Looks to me Meehan and Wilson could be cutting deals and singing like canaries to the Duke 3 and their counsel. <BR/><BR/>If this is what's happened--and I were one of the other defendants, I'd be crapping my pants right about now. <BR/><BR/>The rest of the defendants are going down, down, down. And it looks like Meehan and Wilson might help take 'em down.<BR/><BR/>City of Durham and DPD motto: To serve and protect (their own asses).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31116263390406992372007-11-15T19:44:00.000-05:002007-11-15T19:44:00.000-05:003:54 You could be right - that makes sense.3:54 You could be right - that makes sense.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53078626374940978142007-11-15T16:30:00.000-05:002007-11-15T16:30:00.000-05:0012:16 PMYour theory could also be true of Linwood ...12:16 PM<BR/><BR/>Your theory could also be true of Linwood Wilson.<BR/><BR/>It is noteworthy that neither Meehan nor Wilson were represented by counsel as of yesterday. In infer that the payment-for-counsel largesse of Durham and the State of NC does not extend to either of these men. <BR/><BR/>Given the costs of civil litigation, their direct financial interests would motivate something along the lines of this theory. Of course, they would still have to worry about potential criminal sanctions, but so far authorities have shown little appetite to pursue an investigation. But then again, perhaps, they could go to the authorities as a cooperating witness and plea bargain some type of immunity.<BR/><BR/>Speculative, of course.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49456502134278789802007-11-15T15:54:00.000-05:002007-11-15T15:54:00.000-05:00Anon here again...Meehan strikes me as an arrogant...Anon here again...<BR/><BR/>Meehan strikes me as an arrogant playground bully. Playground bullies usually are full of themselves--until they're well and truly busted (as is Meehan in this case).<BR/><BR/>Once they're busted, they cry like little babies. They can dish it out, but they can't take it. <BR/><BR/>I certainly see Meehan realizing he's got not a legal leg to stand on in court. No pot to pee in, nor a window to throw it out--his life is destroyed by this lawsuit. The only option available is to throw himself on the mercy of those suing him. <BR/><BR/>He *does* have information that will help them...and it is clear that he's been thrown to the wolves by everyone else involved in the suit. NOBODY is going to bail him out of the mess he's in. He's on his own--so it serves HIS purposes to cut a deal to help the Duke 3 get the rest of the folks who framed the guys, in exchange for being dropped from the suit. <BR/><BR/>The Duke 3 don't really want Meehan anyway--he's got nothing ( no $$), but he DOES have the dirt on those he helped frame up the boys. If he flips to their side, he can help them bring down DPD, Nifong and City of Durham. Not sure he can help 'em with Duke though.<BR/><BR/>Think about it...what does Meehan stand to lose if he does this? What does he stand to gain? <BR/><BR/>Hmmm.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-85150773887697302992007-11-15T13:05:00.000-05:002007-11-15T13:05:00.000-05:00I don't see arrpgamt Meehan "throwing himself on a...I don't see arrpgamt Meehan "throwing himself on anyones' mercy". Least of all, some guys from "up north and a lot less educated than him."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-44905944380071370952007-11-15T12:16:00.000-05:002007-11-15T12:16:00.000-05:00JLS says....,re: anon 8:48 pm That means Meehan cu...<I>JLS says....,<BR/><BR/>re: anon 8:48 pm <BR/><BR/>That means Meehan cut a deal with the Duke 3 to get out of the lawsuit. <BR/><BR/><B>I would think it is more likely the lab settled with the three and part of the deal was cutting Meehan loose.</B><BR/><BR/>11/14/07 10:14 PM</I><BR/><BR/>Bear with me on this...and consider carefully. Obviously, this is *pure* conjecture on my part, but I think it is worth considering. <BR/><BR/>I've been tangled in lengthy, protracted civil litigation, and when under extreme financial pressure, I've seen people turn.<BR/><BR/>Here's what I think happened:<BR/>Meehan privately and discretely met with the Duke 3, their parents and their legal counsel. <BR/><BR/>He threw himself on their mercy. He told them he would do whatever they needed, give them whatever information they needed in order to prevail in their civil litigation. <BR/><BR/>He agreed to spill his guts and give them EVERYTHING (perhaps even the unidentified DNA information, which is why the Judge has now put a stay on his destroy order)--on the condition that they drop Meehan from the lawsuit. <BR/><BR/>Meehan said he couldn't say anything more for 2 days. That's because the the Duke 3 haven't accepted the deal yet, and Meehand doesn't want to mess it up.<BR/><BR/>Meanwhile, DNASI got wind of Meehan's little meeting with the Duke 3, et al. As soon as they realized he was going to help the Duke 3 win, they fired him. They're going to try to throw him under the bus and absolve themselves of all responsibility (ie, they've already said they are going to ask the suit be dismissed).<BR/><BR/>Stay tuned....I think this is the scenario we're dealing with. But, I could be wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84903886120477825492007-11-14T22:14:00.000-05:002007-11-14T22:14:00.000-05:00JLS says....,re: anon 8:48 pm That means Meehan cu...JLS says....,<BR/><BR/>re: <B>anon 8:48 pm </B><BR/><BR/><I>That means Meehan cut a deal with the Duke 3 to get out of the lawsuit. </I><BR/><BR/>I would think it is more likely the lab settled with the three and part of the deal was cutting Meehan loose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43622496701306721892007-11-14T19:32:00.000-05:002007-11-14T19:32:00.000-05:00Regarding the latest elections not only did we, in...Regarding the latest elections not only did we, in CT, have to show ID but we had the optical scan technology which made voting easy, fast and accurate.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-77595233808598863392007-11-14T17:40:00.000-05:002007-11-14T17:40:00.000-05:00For what ever reason, I think Meekan has sacrifice...For what ever reason, I think Meekan has sacrificed his career, job prospects and reputation for Nifong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-64623068111766751602007-11-14T16:38:00.000-05:002007-11-14T16:38:00.000-05:00"So, what will Mr Meehan do now, become head of th..."So, what will Mr Meehan do now, become head of the Medical Examiner's Office?"<BR/><BR/>I believe Duke has an opening for an adjunct professor specializing in scientific ethics.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-16316382535285517302007-11-14T13:03:00.000-05:002007-11-14T13:03:00.000-05:00So, what will Mr Meehan do now, become head of the...So, what will Mr Meehan do now, become head of the Medical Examiner's Office?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-92054886611335611362007-11-14T12:11:00.000-05:002007-11-14T12:11:00.000-05:00"I'll be able to say more in two days" ---------He..."I'll be able to say more in two days" <BR/><BR/>---------<BR/><BR/>He'll say he wanted to spend more time with his family.<BR/><BR/>Bwa-hahahahaha!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-65296766348736800382007-11-14T11:49:00.000-05:002007-11-14T11:49:00.000-05:00Judge Stephens orders the DNA samples preserved. W...Judge Stephens orders the DNA samples preserved. Wonder if the Courthouse Crowd has a surprise in store for us today?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-30963370647538592612007-11-14T11:06:00.000-05:002007-11-14T11:06:00.000-05:00TO Matthew (10:56 PM)--Thanks!And of course, ain't...TO Matthew (10:56 PM)--<BR/><BR/>Thanks!<BR/><BR/>And of course, <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4dvhf9ayKU" REL="nofollow">ain't nobody</A> like the irrepressible Gregory.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12916691018303159092007-11-14T10:28:00.000-05:002007-11-14T10:28:00.000-05:00Matthew 10:56 said... ...Right now, as a graduate ...Matthew 10:56 said... <BR/><BR/>...Right now, as a graduate student, I am taking a course entitled “Leadership in exercise, leadership, and sport.” Part of the class is a 3-5 minute speech of “What leadership means to me.” I went last Tuesday, and talked about who has been influential in my life from a leadership standpoint ...<BR/>::<BR/>The last line of the last chapter in UPI is ...It's the facts that matter.<BR/><BR/>Young leaders in training need to make the commitment to searching for the facts and the truth before they jump into the theatre of opinions about leadership.<BR/><BR/>You'll find yourself not talking much because...there is not much to talk about when you have the facts and the truth. Three minutes is about right.<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7358404089074926792007-11-14T10:18:00.000-05:002007-11-14T10:18:00.000-05:00H-S letter:Voters should show IDWhen I voted in Tu...H-S letter:<BR/><BR/><I>Voters should show ID<BR/><BR/>When I voted in Tuesday's election for the first time in North Carolina after moving here from South Carolina, where I had been a poll manager for many years, I was dismayed by two procedures.<BR/><BR/>First, I was not asked for ID. I merely gave my name, confirmed that I was living at the address given, and signed my name. I could have voted as any female whose name and address I knew. No authentication was required. In South Carolina, a voter registration card or driver's license or other DMV identification, with correct address, must be presented.<BR/><BR/>Second, the voting was not by secret ballot. Although private voting booths were available, many voters sat at a long table where they could easily view the votes of their neighbors. And when the ballots were taken to the machine for recording, they were often carelessly held out or up where they were readily visible to others.<BR/><BR/>I know individual states set their own procedures, but I believe some changes should be made to North Carolina's.<BR/><BR/>CAROL S. SCOTT<BR/>Durham<BR/>November 14, 2007</I>Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.com