tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post3332131055835840866..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Checking in with . . . Karla Hollowaykcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger108125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57250583611090992382007-08-19T23:16:00.000-04:002007-08-19T23:16:00.000-04:00To 10:50PM--Get lost, Polanski.Mere CV's are not t...To 10:50PM--<BR/><BR/>Get lost, Polanski.<BR/><BR/>Mere <I>CV's</I> are not the issue here. Only because of Karla Holloway's outrageous behavior do any of us care about her position at Duke.<BR/><BR/>People like Holloway are a dime a dozen.<BR/><BR/>Now run along.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48539038183378233382007-08-19T23:04:00.000-04:002007-08-19T23:04:00.000-04:00If her son had been sick for a long time, why didn...If her son had been sick for a long time, why didn't Holloway do something about it?<BR/>::::::<BR/>Local News<BR/>Victim of Escaped Inmate Recounts 7 Hours of Terror<BR/> <BR/><BR/>Posted: Jun 28, 1999 <BR/><BR/>RALEIGH — Three inmates of the Odom Correctional Institution in Northampton County wereworking on the prison farmwhen theyattempted to escapeMonday. Officers shot all three inmates killing Bem Holloway, and wounding the other two. One of Holloway's victims hopes her story will inspire prison officials and lawmakers to change their policies.<BR/><BR/>Last year, Holloway held a young woman captive for nearly seven hours. He stabbed her, sexually assaulted her and left her to die. Holloway called himself the devil.<BR/><BR/>"He went home yesterday," his victim said, the day after Holloway was killed.<BR/><BR/>"My first thought was I'll be sleeping easier now," said the 23-year-old woman, who asked that her identity be protected. She went through her own hell on May 20, 1998, the day Holloway broke into her North Raleigh home.<BR/><BR/>He waited for her mother to leave, shortly after 8 a.m. Police believe he cased the house and waited for the younger woman to get home. At about 2 p.m., he surprised her when she returned from her college class.<BR/><BR/>Holloway carried a gun and had two knives hanging from the sides of the ball cap on his head.<BR/><BR/>For the next seven hours he would tie her up, sexually assault her, describe to her how he killed another woman and five other people, stab her, choke her and leave her to die.<BR/><BR/>"You know how you hear your life flashes before you? That happens," she said. "I kept thinking about childhood ski trips, not getting married, not having babies."<BR/><BR/>Her love of her family might have been what saved her. Her mom says she saved three lives that night: her own, her mother's and her sister's.<BR/><BR/>Her mother came home at about 7:30 p.m., and they talked him into letting them go to the bank to get him some money.<BR/><BR/>Holloway's picture was caught on the ATM camera. When they returned back to the house at about 8:15 p.m., Holloway tied up the mother in one room and the daughter in another.<BR/><BR/>It was dark in the house; Holloway had cut all the cords to the lamps. The younger woman felt the blade of the knife stabbing her in the stomach.<BR/><BR/>"I started screaming 'I love you, mom.' That's when I knew it was over." But somehow in her struggles, her legs, which were taped to the chair, became free and she got up.<BR/><BR/>He forced her back on the ground and she pretended to be dead, although she knew she could not stay down for long because her sister was expected to come home around 9 p.m.<BR/><BR/>"I felt I wasn't going to be any help to my mother or my sister if I gave up," she said.<BR/><BR/>So when she heard Holloway go down into the basement, she ran out the door to her neighbors, who called police.<BR/><BR/>"Granted, I've got scars, but I'm alive," she said.<BR/><BR/>Now more than a year later, she's strong. In May, she graduated from Wake Tech and was recently accepted toN.C. Statewhere she wants to study communications. She is also engaged to be married.<BR/><BR/>But she says her recovery would not be going so well had she known there was even a chance that Holloway could escape.<BR/><BR/>"Criminals with this kind of past, violent offenders, need to be working, but it should be within prison walls."<BR/><BR/>She hopes prison leaders and lawmakers will look at changing the policy of allowing inmates to work outside the barbed wire.<BR/><BR/>"I wish they would put themselves in our shoes; what if it was your wife, your daughter, your sister -- how would you feel?" she asks.<BR/><BR/>Reporter: Debra Morgan <BR/>Web Editor: Jason Darwin <BR/>::::<BR/><BR/>I wonder if Holloway can answer that last question?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83793713799975572142007-08-19T23:03:00.000-04:002007-08-19T23:03:00.000-04:00well - it looks like Harvard disagrees with your a...well - it looks like Harvard disagrees with your assesment of Karla.Gotta go with the cream,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-40009803191366851792007-08-19T22:50:00.000-04:002007-08-19T22:50:00.000-04:00DebrahKarla Holloway has published on many differe...Debrah<BR/><BR/>Karla Holloway has published on many different subjects, and she is an expert on the mourning ritual.<BR/><BR/>What is in your CV that makes you a legitimate critic of Holloway's scholarship?<BR/><BR/>Your writing is pedestrian and inconsequential, so why should anyone care what your opinion is of Professor Holloway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19823392605377854642007-08-19T22:21:00.000-04:002007-08-19T22:21:00.000-04:009:00PM You got that poster pegged. Poor Bem was a ...9:00PM You got that poster pegged. Poor Bem was a sick, delusional, extremely ill boy/man. Writing about this poor soul is beneath contempt. What happened to that team trying to right a wrong?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-66112437476044827212007-08-19T21:45:00.000-04:002007-08-19T21:45:00.000-04:00And further (9:00PM)--I might add that I also do n...And further (9:00PM)--<BR/><BR/>I might add that I also do not feverishly whip up a community and a campus to try to send people to prison for 30+ years for something they did not come close to thinking about doing.<BR/><BR/>When someone is in possession of such a mentality, "what they do" otherwise is of no interest.<BR/><BR/>However, with regard to Holloway, it is clear from her lack of true scholarship that she might be better suited hawking used cars somewhere.......and shouting a customer <I>Listening Statement</I> through a megaphone.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-10350446794442387782007-08-19T21:16:00.000-04:002007-08-19T21:16:00.000-04:00To 9:00PM--Yes.To 9:00PM--<BR/><BR/>Yes.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43707816840762853542007-08-19T21:09:00.000-04:002007-08-19T21:09:00.000-04:00Wow, I have read here about Hate-filled Holloway b...Wow, I have read here about Hate-filled Holloway before but did not know about her son's brutal, sadistic crimes.<BR/>At least he got the justice he deserved.<BR/>She can write stuff like: "The generational circumstance may change, but the violence done to black bodies has had a consistent history . . .". <BR/>Does anyone know if she ever expressed sympathy to the victims/families for the violence done to white bodies by her son?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50706776155221548092007-08-19T21:00:00.000-04:002007-08-19T21:00:00.000-04:00to DebrahI heard about this site on blackprof.com ...to Debrah<BR/><BR/>I heard about this site on blackprof.com (1 racist there, a "Chin," recommended it to me).<BR/><BR/>Lordy lordy, Debrah; you certainly don't have much respect for brilliant, hard-working black women.<BR/><BR/>Professor Holloway is an accomplished woman who holds an endowed chair.<BR/><BR/>Who are you? Are you even employed?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-55203059132329818722007-08-19T20:38:00.000-04:002007-08-19T20:38:00.000-04:00Holloway has been trying to construct a reality in...Holloway has been trying to construct a reality in which "whitey" can be squarely blamed for everything wrong in the non-white community. <BR/><BR/>Given the violent criminal activities of her son, which ultimately led to his death, there can be no doubt that the "whitey" explanation is more comforting to her than the far more likely reason - which is that she utterly failed as a mother. <BR/><BR/>I've heard it mentioned that Bem Holloway was a bad seed. I think that it's more likely that Bem Holloway grew up in an environment where he was taught that it was OK to hate "whitey" and that anytime you failed, somehow, it was whitey's fault.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3650581048462299312007-08-19T20:15:00.000-04:002007-08-19T20:15:00.000-04:00To the Diva:Yes. I agree. Their behavior and atti...To the Diva:<BR/><BR/>Yes. I agree. Their behavior and attitude deserves to be volleyed, point, game, set and match.<BR/><BR/>Frankly, all who share their collective view of society --- which I submit is their singular failure to uphold any sense of proper society --- also deserve the volley. <BR/><BR/>But...the problem is... they choose not to count...15, 30, 40 ...game. I have yet to understand their number system.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-67587303294852992302007-08-19T20:09:00.000-04:002007-08-19T20:09:00.000-04:00To "inman"--If these humanoids had just once shown...To "inman"--<BR/><BR/>If these humanoids had just once shown they have an ounce of humanity, one might hesitate treating them the way they deserve to be treated.<BR/><BR/>Holloway shows absolutely no redeeming qualities; however, this behavior is prefectly normal for such people.<BR/><BR/>Her entire life has been one of not having to take responsibility.<BR/><BR/><I>Affirmative actious maximus</I><BR/><BR/>Or something close. :>)Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83151016179336331142007-08-19T20:00:00.000-04:002007-08-19T20:00:00.000-04:00Debrah said @ 6:09:And I can't end without noting ...Debrah said @ 6:09:<BR/><BR/><I>And I can't end without noting that his new bride isn't exactly come hither material.</I><BR/><BR/>Ha. Neither is he. That's an understatement. There are many doctoral candidates and graduates each year who don't troll the "good looks" gutters. <BR/><BR/>And Ms. Holloway junior...all I can say is,...<BR/><BR/>...nice glasses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18744724700786866742007-08-19T19:53:00.000-04:002007-08-19T19:53:00.000-04:00Since Holloway got off on so freely passing along ...Since Holloway got off on so freely passing along fifth-hand gossip about Duke students through her petty and cowardly e-mails, let me post some factual information about junior.<BR/><BR/><I>sentence: 95 years, 4 months<BR/><BR/>Holloway was convicted November 17, 1998 in Wake County Superior Court for<BR/><BR/>DOCKET # 98032493 RAPE FIRST DEGREE<BR/><BR/>DOCKET # 98032554 RAPE FIRST DEGREE<BR/><BR/>DOCKET # 98032555 ROBBERY WITH A DANGEROUS WEAPON<BR/><BR/>DOCKET # 98032551 ROBBERY WITH A DANGEROUS WEAPON<BR/><BR/>DOCKET# 98032553 KIDNAPPING 1ST DEGREE<BR/><BR/>DOCKET # 98032552 KIDNAPPING 1ST DEGREE<BR/><BR/>DOCKET # 98032549 ATTEMPTED MURDER FIRST DEGREE<BR/><BR/>DOCKET # 98032548 BREAKING AND ENTERING</I>Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-17098034226089091122007-08-19T18:09:00.000-04:002007-08-19T18:09:00.000-04:00Regarding a previous poster who mentioned that Hol...Regarding a previous poster who mentioned that Holloway's daughter married a <I>white man</I>....<BR/><BR/>Please note that the new husband is Puerto Rican and he and his family have been steeped in the Berkley mindset....a...la....cultural anthropology boy, Orin Starn, and others of the Gang of 88.<BR/><BR/>One has to make that distinction.<BR/><BR/>There is no doubt the new hubby knows how to walk the PC-black-culture-is-always-right line.<BR/><BR/>And I can't end without noting that his new bride isn't exactly <I>come hither</I> material.<BR/><BR/>Forgive me. I just had to say it. Those people and all their ilk deserve every morsel of reality one can dish.<BR/><BR/>:>)Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-9482822885992933932007-08-19T15:18:00.000-04:002007-08-19T15:18:00.000-04:00Does anyone know if Karla every inquired about the...Does anyone know if Karla every inquired about the greif of her son's victim?<BR/><BR/>I wonder if Karla facilitated the victim receiving grief couseling after being raped, stabbed, and inprisoned for over 5 hours by Bem.<BR/><BR/>I wonder if Karla made sure that the crime received national attention and not just local coverage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68715542380563444922007-08-19T15:11:00.000-04:002007-08-19T15:11:00.000-04:00Interesting that Karla seems to be anti everything...Interesting that Karla seems to be anti everything white, including funerals.<BR/><BR/>I wonder how she really felt about her daughter's wedding. I mean it could not have been more "white European" if she had tried. It seemed beautiful, but no "black or Afican" symbols anywhere.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19372860913777478832007-08-19T14:22:00.000-04:002007-08-19T14:22:00.000-04:001:35 said:Brining this poor family and the sad tra...1:35 said:<BR/><I>Brining this poor family and the sad tragic case into a Duke Lax blog is unforgiveable. </I><BR/><BR/>I want to know who put this poor family and Duke lacrosse in salty water. That is unforgivableAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43123625555092834662007-08-19T14:18:00.000-04:002007-08-19T14:18:00.000-04:00And, oh.....I forgot to add that those white femal...And, oh.....<BR/><BR/>I forgot to add that those white female victims of Bem Holloway were also brutally raped.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-22084017450938938792007-08-19T14:01:00.000-04:002007-08-19T14:01:00.000-04:00to 10.06am You said:"I am sure that the violent cr...to 10.06am You said:<BR/>"I am sure that the violent criminal career and bloody death of Karla Holloway's son, was and is a very painful and heart-breaking experience for her. But that was the boy's own doing, not hers, and I'm not sure it's fair to give her a bad time about it -- unless it reveals a real and specific hypocrisy on her part, which I just don't see here."<BR/>::::<BR/><BR/>This just sounds to nice. It really sounds like the America I would like to live in. Unfortunately, most of the black leadership in this country do not adhear to that. <BR/><BR/>Just becasue I'm white, I should pay for reporations to balcks because they were slaves. I did not own slaves, and I can prove it. I am a first generation American. My husband's family come here 50 years after the Civil war. <BR/>Maybe you, 10.06, can spread the gospel that most of us do not owe blacks anything. Quit blaming whites for everything. Blacks need to do it on their own, just like the rest of us.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-76386318516896063892007-08-19T13:58:00.000-04:002007-08-19T13:58:00.000-04:00To 1:35PM--Karla Holloway made her bed. Now she mu...To 1:35PM--<BR/><BR/>Karla Holloway made her bed. Now she must thrash about in it.<BR/><BR/>I hope you go back through these posts and read the letter she sent to a Duke lacrosse mother.<BR/><BR/>When I look at her photo---with that wild-eyed, piercing stare...and that forced smile---I see a mini-Idi Amin.<BR/><BR/>A woman who's been given a perch of power to some degree...made possible only because she possesses that great PC and affirmative action ingredient of being both black AND a woman.<BR/><BR/>And now, feeling untouchable, she uses her perch to harm anyone who isn't the <I>right</I> color or the <I>right</I> ethnicity or of the <I>right</I> ideology.<BR/><BR/>Holloway's history is very relevant. Her adopted son came to her as a toddler. Holloway and only Holloway instilled the values from home in that young man.<BR/><BR/>He was taught to feel the same way toward those of European ancestry as does she.<BR/><BR/>All of his female victims whom he stabbed and murdered brutally were white.<BR/><BR/>How does such hatred and brutality come from someone who grew up inside an upper-middle-class and educated home?<BR/><BR/>One wonders.<BR/><BR/>I have a very good idea.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-54600889773189852602007-08-19T13:35:00.000-04:002007-08-19T13:35:00.000-04:00Brining this poor family and the sad tragic case i...Brining this poor family and the sad tragic case into a Duke Lax blog is unforgiveable. Now that Levicy has excaped your clutches scot-free, some of you are desperate to do harm to others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-44203912984338021752007-08-19T11:38:00.000-04:002007-08-19T11:38:00.000-04:009:49Yup. I agree.I wonder if Holloway would wear ...9:49<BR/>Yup. I agree.<BR/>I wonder if Holloway would wear such a shirt, to honor her son's victims, to pay them some respect?<BR/>Somehow, I doubt it. But she should, if she thinks that murder victims should be remembered (and I would tend to agree with her, if she had an ounce of sincerity.)<BR/>She ought to wear such a shirt, if only as a symbolic albatross, as did the Mariner, if she expects others to do the same.<BR/><BR/>10:06<BR/>I'm adopted, too: nurture AND nature seem to be important. Holloway might have been a very good parent. That wasn't my point. Chickens come home to roost at the oddest of times and the strangest of circumstances.<BR/>She's very quick to tell others what to do, but not much for following her own advice, or so it would appear.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6747768665419775752007-08-19T10:06:00.000-04:002007-08-19T10:06:00.000-04:00I am sure that the violent criminal career and blo...I am sure that the violent criminal career and bloody death of Karla Holloway's son, was and is a very painful and heart-breaking experience for her. But that was the boy's own doing, not hers, and I'm not sure it's fair to give her a bad time about it -- unless it reveals a real and specific hypocrisy on her part, which I just don't see here.<BR/><BR/>The same Karla Holloway who raised that "bad seed," also mothered the young woman who just got married, and who achieved a Ph.D. in Physics from Harvard.<BR/><BR/>But the boy was adopted -- who knows what his genetic parents were. Really makes me wonder about the old nature -vs- nurture, more than it makes me want to attack anybody's parenting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-16301450932259078592007-08-19T09:49:00.000-04:002007-08-19T09:49:00.000-04:00Mac/MEe - run that t shirt right over to the famil...Mac/MEe - run that t shirt right over to the family of the murder victim. That should help destroy any peace and serenity they have managed to find since the victim's death.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com