tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post3412458741395834505..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Tyson's Effectskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-40475224912152082942007-08-24T20:35:00.000-04:002007-08-24T20:35:00.000-04:00To Ralph Phelan @ 8:30 am: Before I apologize to S...To Ralph Phelan @ 8:30 am: <BR/><BR/>Before I apologize to Scientologists for my posts, I want to see exactly how the two religions stack up. Which is more reasonable, Scientology or Political Correctness, "Correctology," as they like to call it. Here is my scoreboard:<BR/><BR/>1. The two religions share basically the same creation theory. The only difference is that the Scientology creation myth occurred earlier and involved the movement of a race to another planet (not across the Atlantic). Scientologists magically "audit" themselves to remove the harmful "memories" of a hurtful past. Correctologists use diversity and PC to magically "audit" others and force them to have "memories" of a hurtful past. <BR/><BR/>SCORE: Correctology 1; Scientology 0. <BR/><BR/>2. The two religions attack non-believers in the courts and on the streets. [You are correct to point out that the Scientologists are not as random or as vicious as the Correctologists]. Scientology has also not engendered group lynchings. <BR/><BR/>SCORE: Correctology 2; Scientology 0.<BR/><BR/>3. The two religions are faith-based. There is no science that can prove something that is based on hearsay. This is a tie. <BR/><BR/>SCORE: Correctology 3; Scientology 1.<BR/><BR/>4. The two religions each have their own rules and sacred words. [I would grant that the Scientologists have nothing quite as bizarre as "... and Queer Theory]. Also, Scientology rules and sacred words deal with THEIR OWN. Correctologists seek to do harm to OTHERS. <BR/><BR/>SCORE: Correctology 4; Scientology 1. <BR/><BR/>5. The two religions each have fundamental logical fallacies. But, Correctology contains the worst logical fallacy of them all, which is: Fight racism with racism. <BR/><BR/>SCORE: Correctology 5; Scientology 1. <BR/><BR/>6. The two religions have clergy who receive compensation for their ministrations. This is a push.<BR/><BR/>SCORE: Correctology 6; Scientology 2.<BR/><BR/>7. The two religions have celebrated and eccentric characters who put the religion in the national spotlight. Since the Correctology clergy put their religion in the spotlight for financial gain, it should take this criterion.<BR/><BR/>FINAL SCORE:<BR/><BR/>CORRECTOLOGY 7<BR/>SCIENTOLOGY 2<BR/><BR/>______________<BR/><BR/>I do owe Scientologists and Scientology an apology. <BR/>______________<BR/><BR/>"Scientists had long maintained that spoilage was the action of bacterium and fungi on food over a period of time. It turns out, spoilage is just K.C. Johnson getting bored with something." TALES OF THE ELECTRON MICROSCOPE (Marvel Comics, Dec. 2006). MOO! GregoryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-9986514427638631362007-08-24T19:58:00.000-04:002007-08-24T19:58:00.000-04:00THE MOST EXPLOSIVE COMMENTS SEEN AT DiWAnonymous s...<B>THE MOST EXPLOSIVE COMMENTS SEEN AT DiW</B><BR/><BR/><I><BR/><B>Anonymous said... </B><BR/>The "it did not cause any problems" line is naive. Faculty and employees in Arts and Sciences who voiced disagreement with the ad were subjected to angry denunciations, and in at least one case an employee was threatened with loss of employment for criticizing the ad.<BR/><BR/>If harassment is associated with a hostile work environment, and the environment is larger than an individual departmental unit, then many faculty were harassed.<BR/><BR/>That's not "no effect." <BR/><BR/>8/23/07 1:54 PM <BR/><BR/><B>Anonymous said... </B><BR/>I'm Anon 1:54pm <BR/>replying to AMAC and Gary Packwood<BR/><BR/>Yes, it varied across departments. Many faculty were oblivious, for the usual reasons -- they teach no undergraduates, or run labs and projects full time. I'd guess a majority of the Arts and Sciences faculty dislike or regard as silly college athletics at the Division 1 level about as much as they dislike or regard as silly race/class/gender studies. Many faculty trained overseas are baffled, and bemused, by American obsessions with both college sports and "embracing diversity." In some of the departments "associated" with the ad, individual faculty members were pressured to sign it, and to sign the second ad if they had not signed the first. Nontenured faculty, and associate professors looking to move to full rank, were in very big binds in some departments. <BR/><BR/>Staff members were in some places at real risk; one I talked to was specifically told by a supervisor to stop speaking in a public forum or else he would be fired. (That person refused to file a complaint for fear of future job retaliation.) There were related issues associated with the FODU petition, as individuals identified themselves as unhappy with the Chronicle ad, and supportive of all Duke students. Administratively, some faculty were given to understand that views on the lacrosse case would play a role in nominations of faculty members to committees by the Executive Committee of the Academic Council. <BR/><BR/>I can't provide documentation in public, I'm afraid. Unlike KC, I have to live with these people for decades. Some people spoke to me, and to others, in confidence. Do I believe them? Yes, I do. It's possible KC may have some of this material in his book. <BR/><BR/>8/23/07 4:19 PM <BR/><BR/></I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49981722820140954992007-08-24T14:51:00.000-04:002007-08-24T14:51:00.000-04:00Anon 10:52am --You are wrong.Anon 1:54pm/4:19pm ga...Anon 10:52am --<BR/><BR/>You are wrong.<BR/><BR/>Anon 1:54pm/4:19pm gave no indication that s/he signed the Listening Statement. Responding to two specific requests, s/he described the atmosphere in certain signer-laden Duke departments as the malign nature of the Hoax/Frame became clear. If this explanation is correct, some non-core signers were successfully pressured to prevent them from retracting and apologizing. This would add to understanding the Hard Left's contributions to events.<BR/><BR/>Anon 1:54pm/4:19pm, you can contact me via the homepage of windsofchange.net if you want to pursue any of this further.AMachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08872008617279528583noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12721366759194784472007-08-24T13:03:00.000-04:002007-08-24T13:03:00.000-04:007:36The Oakland journalist's killer was associated...7:36<BR/><BR/>The Oakland journalist's killer was associated with a local Muslim group. <BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=oakland+journalist+muslim&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8" REL="nofollow">google it</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-23806354733802617422007-08-24T10:52:00.000-04:002007-08-24T10:52:00.000-04:00The apologist who posted above @ 4:19 pm on 8/23/2...The apologist who posted above @ 4:19 pm on 8/23/2007.<BR/><BR/>The positions that individuals like you and the other "professors" who felt their positions threatened therefore they had to sign and "appear" to provide support to the Group of 88 is morally bankrupt. That they took this position demonstrates only that they value their mediocre jobs over the truth, over the freedom on the young men who were innocent, over their non-existent integrity and honor, over simple honesty. They are immoral, dishonest and intellectually dishonest. They lack the capacity to understand and empathize with anyone who doesn't teach and suck up in the manner they do. The irony is that they hold others to such high standards they could never hope to approach. I find them disgusting. Take your escuses someplace else.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48915003748554485862007-08-24T08:30:00.000-04:002007-08-24T08:30:00.000-04:00Gregory 5:29 pm"It is important, I believe, to und...Gregory 5:29 pm<BR/><BR/>"It is important, I believe, to understand the parameters of political correctness. When you see it is virtually indistinguishable from Scientology in many respects (the worst respects)..."<BR/><BR/>I can't believe I'm about to do this but ... I gotta stick up for the scientologists. They may sue people based on legal theories of intellectual property I consider both incorrect and reprehensible, but they don't try to put people in jail for 30 years on false charges. They may harrass people, but they don't threaten to kill them that I know of. And to get them to come after you you have to actively oppose them - they don't go after random unbelievers who were in the wrong place at the wrong time, the way some random white males who were in the wrong place at the wrong time became targets of PC.<BR/><BR/>Doctrinally, the Scientology belief system is as coherent as a hack SF writer could make it - being a competent hack whose problems were mostly stylistic, that's actually pretty coherent. PC is an agglomaration of mutually contradictory impulses, like Marxism, radical feminism, and support for radical Islam - no two of these can be reconciled, let alone all three, so even without contact with the outside world the PCists are in a constant state of cognitive dissonance and denial.<BR/><BR/>Your analogy with the professors KC has been profiling is an insult to the intellect and good sense of John Travolta, Kirstie Alley and Tom Cruise.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-8886774261918270192007-08-24T06:48:00.000-04:002007-08-24T06:48:00.000-04:00"...then maybe we can move on to MLK's color-blind..."...then maybe we can move on to MLK's color-blind society."<BR/><BR/>MLK has not got tha license on a color-blind society brother. It's like clean water, most everyone wants it - steer clear of those that don't. Their bad for your constitution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-65270515196033621432007-08-24T03:58:00.000-04:002007-08-24T03:58:00.000-04:00i can't believe you dissed gonzalez. its so benea...i can't believe you dissed gonzalez. its so beneath you . i mean, gawd. <BR/><BR/>it, like, ruins the blog like a bad researcher ruins a prestigous university. <BR/><BR/>its like exposing your total inability to analyze reality. i mean facts. or whatever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80272522775165521372007-08-24T03:55:00.000-04:002007-08-24T03:55:00.000-04:00anonymous 9:45I appreciate your helpful advice and...anonymous 9:45<BR/><BR/>I appreciate your helpful advice and insight. How do I get a life? And where do I find a clue? Is my pot too small? I am really sorry I missed the candle-light vigil but I stopped by the Platinum Pleasures Club for some field research on the employee's day-care facility. And I don't understand Tim Tyson's statement: "And so I guess I was there really because the women in the house that night were somebody’s daughter and somebody’s sister and somebody’s mother and somebody’s sweetheart. I think that we have to come together as a community and say that this is unacceptable on a number of different levels." <BR/><BR/>I am confused. Does he really mean that it was unacceptable for those women, in that house, to have been out dancing instead of mothering, sistering, daughtering or just being sweet? His comment seems somewhat sexist, don't women have a right to earn a living? Maybe the feminists could help us out here.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49149725107010581142007-08-24T02:56:00.000-04:002007-08-24T02:56:00.000-04:002:47Wow! You are really insightful. Does your belo...2:47<BR/>Wow! You are really insightful. <BR/>Does your beloved "klan of 88" bleed much from the wounds of Professor Johnson's pen?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12431382549134437132007-08-23T23:40:00.000-04:002007-08-23T23:40:00.000-04:00Democracy Betrayed: The Wilmington Race Riot of 18...<I> Democracy Betrayed: The Wilmington Race Riot of 1898 and Its Legacy<BR/> By David S. Cecelski, Timothy B. Tyson<BR/>Summary<BR/><BR/>By David S. Cecelski<BR/>Timothy B. Tyson<BR/>Contributor John Hope<BR/>Franklin<BR/>Published 1998<BR/>UNC Press<BR/>History / U.S.<BR/>301 pages<BR/>ISBN 0807847550<BR/>Buy this book<BR/>UNC Press, Publisher<BR/> <BR/>At the close of the nineteenth century, the Democratic Party in North Carolina engineered a white supremacy revolution. Frustrated by decades of African American self-assertion and threatened by an interracial coalition advocating democratic reforms, white conservatives used violence, demagoguery, and fraud to seize political power and disenfranchise black citizens. The most notorious episode of the campaign was the Wilmington "race riot" of 1898, which claimed the lives of many black residents and rolled back decades of progress for African Americans in the state. Published on the centennial of the Wilmington race riot, "Democracy Betrayed" draws together the best new scholarship on the events of 1898 and their aftermath. Contributors to this important book hope to draw public attention to the tragedy, to honor its victims, and to bring a clear and timely historical voice to the debate over its legacy.The contributors are David S. Cecelski, William H. Chafe, Laura F. Edwards, Raymond Gavins, Glenda E. Gilmore, John Haley, Michael Honey, Stephen Kantrowitz, H. Leon Prather Sr., Timothy B. Tyson, LeeAnn Whites, and Richard Yarborough.</I>Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58833594092086489702007-08-23T23:35:00.000-04:002007-08-23T23:35:00.000-04:00Below is a small article which shows how trite Tys...Below is a small article which shows how trite Tyson's <I>discipline</I> is. You could put his body of work into one sentence.<BR/><BR/>If not for the subject matter from which he has sucked the blood for so long---(maybe that's what inspired the title)---there would be no one to prop up such repetitious tales.<BR/><BR/>Many people have told this same story ad nauseum...as if there is something new to uncover.<BR/><BR/>In its redundancy, I marvel at what Tyson calls a <I>book</I>.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1058/is_22_121/ai_n6358845/pg_1" REL="nofollow">Tyson bleeds Christianity for all it's worth.</A>Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-25562013380178157582007-08-23T23:32:00.000-04:002007-08-23T23:32:00.000-04:00Aristides quoting Eric Hoffer via Belmont Club..."...Aristides quoting Eric Hoffer via Belmont Club...<BR/><BR/>"If a doctrine is not unintelligible, it has to be vague; and if neither unintelligible nor vague, it has to be unverifiable."<BR/><BR/>This is the language of the Klan of 88, though it is incomplete as it does not consider outright falsification.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-62430537932234014262007-08-23T23:27:00.000-04:002007-08-23T23:27:00.000-04:00"It is not when truth is dirty, but when it is sha..."It is not when truth is dirty, but when it is shallow, that the lover of knowledge is reluctant to step into its waters."<BR/>-- Nietzsche<BR/><BR/>This aptly explains why the adoption of the race/gender/classwarfare movement meets with so much resistance.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24584424564605367402007-08-23T22:59:00.000-04:002007-08-23T22:59:00.000-04:00New Black PanthersThis is what the Klan of 88, Bro...<A HREF="http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2007/04/no-justice-no-peace-charges-dropped-in.html" REL="nofollow">New Black Panthers</A><BR/><BR/>This is what the Klan of 88, Brodhead, the pot bangers, the MSM, and other race baiters must be most proud of inciting.<BR/><BR/>Shall we say, this may have been their finest hour.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48236544060278259872007-08-23T22:52:00.000-04:002007-08-23T22:52:00.000-04:00stephen @ 5:02Thank you for your thoughts and hear...stephen @ 5:02<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your thoughts and heartfelt expression. You understand what I said. But then, we are of common heritage, albeit after the year 1603. <BR/><BR/>And never lose sight of your heritage. Yes, you are American, as were your grandparents the moment they adopted this country and its values. But you are also an American of Scottish descent -- and of that, one can be proud. One should never lose sight of one's heritage, for heritage grounds us in something greater than ourselves -- the toil and the struggle and the heartache and the hopes of all those who came before.<BR/><BR/>Lest you become to proud of the Scots (and God love them for their distilleries), my respect for heritage extends to all, whether European, or Asian, or African or even Antarctican ... my belief is that people who have peace with their own family and their past are more likely to have peace with others. It's those who are angry about their family and/or their past that have a difficulty with others.<BR/><BR/>And I thank you along another dimension, for now I understand that some do not feel American because they cannot or do not want to risk the adoption of a culture that is yet to be known. These are the cautious, the timid, the yet to be Americans who leave a foot planted in the memory of another life, another culture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18054486749072319922007-08-23T22:08:00.000-04:002007-08-23T22:08:00.000-04:00One Spook:Channeling Gregory II:KC was the inspira...One Spook:<BR/>Channeling Gregory II:<BR/><BR/>KC was the inspiration for Devo's "Whip It," which was to be a prescient interpretation of what later happened to the 88, who found themselves "whipped" by Professor KC Johnson.<BR/><BR/>Timmy Tyson was not amused, and went home crying; Timmy's Mommy came back later and called KC a "great big bully."<BR/><BR/>To which he replied:<BR/>"Whip it" -(referring to bratty Timmy)- "whip it good!"machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-45198250163332864782007-08-23T21:56:00.000-04:002007-08-23T21:56:00.000-04:00Is Tyson a Communist?Is Tyson a Communist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-23438741422572847472007-08-23T21:45:00.000-04:002007-08-23T21:45:00.000-04:00You folks really do need to get a life, along with...You folks really do need to get a life, along with KC. <BR/><BR/>Reading the comments here is worth more than a few laughs, I'll give you that. But seriously, most of you are clueless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57350890871889346202007-08-23T21:22:00.000-04:002007-08-23T21:22:00.000-04:00to 4.08 pmYou can add Ward Churchill to your list ...to 4.08 pm<BR/><BR/>You can add Ward Churchill to your list of frauds.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78586649758988470232007-08-23T20:55:00.000-04:002007-08-23T20:55:00.000-04:00the unfortunate defender you cited violated the fi...the unfortunate defender you cited violated the first rule of commenting... never go unarmed into a battle of witsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-76864919577587212762007-08-23T20:49:00.000-04:002007-08-23T20:49:00.000-04:00Is there any wonder why Tyson has moved to Wiscons...Is there any wonder why Tyson has moved to Wisconson? Was he not in NC to right the wrongs?<BR/><BR/>Yo Tyson, where you at? Nothing to say?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28533525642237234622007-08-23T19:53:00.000-04:002007-08-23T19:53:00.000-04:00Boy, is it just me or haven't there been a LOT mor...Boy, is it just me or haven't there been a LOT more attacks on KC lately? <BR/><BR/>Every damned one 'anonymous' (the courageous little dears) and every damned one attacking KC because he (the horror! the horror!) printed the truth about the Gang.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-77049296307956757452007-08-23T19:36:00.001-04:002007-08-23T19:36:00.001-04:00Recently, the African-American (read black) editor...Recently, the African-American (read black) editor of the Oakland Post was assassinated on the streets of Oakland. It was done by someone wearing a mask or hood. The murder appears to have been gang related. No one seems to know anything about the murder least of all the police. It is one of those murders that it is better for no one, including the police, to know anything about. Time to send some pot-bangers and Group88 to the West Coast in defense of whatever passes for law and order in Oakland . . . that is send the pot-banger and Group88 to defend what is left of the law there. This is just another killing in Oakland to go with the dozens and dozens of killings that have occurred there this year . . . it reminds of Durham . . . sad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79379628434672123362007-08-23T19:36:00.000-04:002007-08-23T19:36:00.000-04:00Prof. Johnson,I understand your blog will soon com...Prof. Johnson,<BR/><BR/>I understand your blog will soon come to an end and I would like to thank you (and all the commenters) for giving me quite an education. I've only been able to read your site once or twice a week but the clear writing, astute analysis and all the great comments and lame detractors have taught me more than I can express. I have especially enjoyed how the Gang o' 88 has been deconstructed (if that's the right word). What cowards.<BR/>How the Political Correctness gang can so easily whip themselves into a lynch mob frenzy and, yes, even stage fake "hate" crimes is a thing to behold.<BR/>It's now clear to me how the horrors in Stalinist and Maoist times went so far. <BR/>"...regardless of the truth", indeed!<BR/>I think "AMac" summed it up best a day or two ago: "Johnson lets a lot of people have their say, though much of what's written isn't worth reading. But thanks to this approach, some real gems have been published at DiW." A whole lot of gems, I'd say.<BR/>Thank you for opening my mind and giving me a real education in writing analysis, critical thinking and, most of all, the mind-poison that is Political Correctness.<BR/>Bless you all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com