tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post3530741838010073341..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Nifong Reports to Jailkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger89125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-27417509279926345142007-09-10T15:47:00.000-04:002007-09-10T15:47:00.000-04:00"Please let us through.... He's just here to do hi..."Please let us through.... He's just here to do his job. He has a JOB to do" <BR/><BR/>Oh, my gosh! I sure hope that whoever his employer was didn't pay more than the minimum wage!<BR/><BR/>First time in my life I ever heard it said that spending a night in jail was "doing a job". Talk about speech revision!<BR/><BR/>BTW... to the lawyers. Now that Mikey is a criminal, does he loose his voting rights?<BR/><BR/>PLEEASEEE say "YES"!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-77297271783138619892007-09-08T11:43:00.000-04:002007-09-08T11:43:00.000-04:00Gary Packwood said... And...2:54, I don't think we...<I>Gary Packwood said... <BR/><BR/>And...2:54, I don't think we do anything in Texas unless there is a lawsuit resulting in a requirement that we do something. Might be a good idea that we do something of course but we got no money don't ya know and the taxpayers (no income tax in Texas) want to hear that we MUST do something before they part with their dollars. <BR/>::<BR/>GP <BR/><BR/>9/7/07 9:44 PM </I><BR/><BR/>I'd like to point out that Texas is actually a very pro-defendant state. There are, for example, no "common law crimes" in Texas -- that is, no judge can say "what you did was bad enough". If it's not <B>specifically</B> criminalized by the Legislature, it's legal to do in Texas (this has made drug laws a nightmare, since every possible compound has to be described).<BR/><BR/>People have this image of Texas as a "rough justice" kind of place. It <B>is</B> rough, if you're guilty. But there are lots of legal protections for defendants, PLUS there's an overall cultural distrust in Texas of all government power (recent refugees from Yankeedom excepted).<BR/><BR/>RRHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4226042466484089012007-09-08T10:09:00.000-04:002007-09-08T10:09:00.000-04:00"It's a bold and extraordinary procedure to send s..."It's a bold and extraordinary procedure to send someone to jail -- even for a day -- who has a long history of integrity and was never in trouble before,"<BR/><BR/>As Lane Williamson said -- just because a lawyer never embezzled money from a client <I>before</I> doesn't mean he gets a free pass the first time he does it. I believe Williamson also pointed out that the misconduct lasted for over a year and that made it very difficult to even consider this just <I>one</I> instance of misconduct, let alone one that could be forgiven as a 'one-time aberration'.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15302500092802511012007-09-08T00:42:00.000-04:002007-09-08T00:42:00.000-04:00"LOBOTOMIZE!!""Friday morning, time for our medica..."LOBOTOMIZE!!"<BR/><BR/>"Friday morning, time for our medication"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3629916071902493092007-09-08T00:19:00.001-04:002007-09-08T00:19:00.001-04:00The signs might as well read: "WE ARE MORONS"The signs might as well read: "WE ARE MORONS"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-23740419348760703662007-09-08T00:19:00.000-04:002007-09-08T00:19:00.000-04:00Meanwhile, some lawyers griped Thursday that Nifon...Meanwhile, some lawyers griped Thursday that Nifong is getting a raw deal, but others suggested he deserved more than a day behind bars. <BR/><BR/>"It's a bold and extraordinary procedure to send someone to jail -- even for a day -- who has a long history of integrity and was never in trouble before," said John Fitzpatrick, president of the Durham Criminal Defense Lawyers Association. <BR/><BR/>Fitzpatrick said he hoped an "eye-for-an-eye and tooth-for-a tooth" mentality was not involved in the jailing. <BR/><BR/>"We don't want to give the public that kind of image," he said. "Just because three lacrosse players spent a few hours in jail, I personally don't believe Mr. Nifong should necessarily have to spend a few more hours." <BR/>======================================================================<BR/><BR/>This is a joke, right? Please tell me this is a joke?!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80585102743658425462007-09-07T23:29:00.000-04:002007-09-07T23:29:00.000-04:00Anonymous 9:47 said......Does anyone know what ail...Anonymous 9:47 said...<BR/>...Does anyone know what ails Vikky Peterson? <BR/>::<BR/>She has attended far to many organizational development workshops sponsored by extremist white folks.<BR/><BR/>She believes that they really know what they are talking about.<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-36271143650659856072007-09-07T21:47:00.000-04:002007-09-07T21:47:00.000-04:00Scott 5:45 said... Is that the only outfit V. Pete...Scott 5:45 said... <BR/>Is that the only outfit V. Peterson owns? Wasn't she wearing that outside the courthouse when she took a camera crew and reporter hostage? <BR/>::<BR/>Thats her Sunday goin' to meetin' clothes, don't you know.<BR/><BR/>Special hat for Easter.<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-32935617822098298092007-09-07T21:44:00.000-04:002007-09-07T21:44:00.000-04:00Atty Ken Duke 3:45 said... ...Re 2:54's "(N)o city...Atty Ken Duke 3:45 said... <BR/>...Re 2:54's "(N)o city will ever agree to political reform simply because an opponent in a lawsuit demanded it. If it's a good idea, why not do it before you're forced?"<BR/>...Actually, a number of reforms in the Durham criminal justice system have come about because of lawsuits. The biggest, both figuratively and literally, is the huge jail that Nifong checked himself into today. The prior hellhol... I mean facility was on the top floor of the judicial building. When it got crowded, it was like something out of Dickens. <BR/>::<BR/>Even the Durham JAIL you are talking about is PC. I noticed that it is named the ...DURHAM DETENTION CENTER in the pictures this morning.<BR/><BR/>And...2:54, I don't think we do anything in Texas unless there is a lawsuit resulting in a requirement that we do something. Might be a good idea that we do something of course but we got no money don't ya know and the taxpayers (no income tax in Texas) want to hear that we MUST do something before they part with their dollars. <BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-66535332887311100242007-09-07T17:45:00.000-04:002007-09-07T17:45:00.000-04:00Is that the only outfit V. Peterson owns? Wasn't s...Is that the only outfit V. Peterson owns? Wasn't she wearing that outside the courthouse when she took a camera crew and reporter hostage?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02986435035945279463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-10639668616611570512007-09-07T17:28:00.000-04:002007-09-07T17:28:00.000-04:00I wasn't aware that there was such a thing as a fo...I wasn't aware that there was such a thing as a four man LAX team but obviously there is. UBUNTU knows about it since their website discusses the rape by the LAX team and since we all know that there was DNA evidence and NONE of it belonged to any Duke LAX players, there must be a mystery LAX Rape team in Durm. It would figure though. Bet ole Vicky Peterson is one of their cheerleaders. She's got a long way to go before the Dallas Cowboys would consider her. CGM on the other hand, well, she's been ridden hard and long by a whole herd. Oops, didn't mean to "steer" you in the wrong direction.<BR/>Cy-anara!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-16723872000027697102007-09-07T17:15:00.000-04:002007-09-07T17:15:00.000-04:00thanks One Spook for the 411 on KC's name. RRHthanks One Spook for the 411 on KC's name. RRHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73327089746743247392007-09-07T17:13:00.000-04:002007-09-07T17:13:00.000-04:00Former Chronicler:Yes, I did read the editor's not...Former Chronicler:<BR/><BR/>Yes, I did read the editor's note. This, in part, is what it said:<BR/><BR/>"Several members of the University community contacted me about comments posted on the board that they said were racist, repulsive and unbecoming of both The Chronicle and Duke University, and I agreed and was more than happy to remove those comments. After some reflection, I decided that in the short term, the more drastic step of disabling the boards was necessary.<BR/><BR/>Since the lacrosse case began, The Chronicle Online has been a major discussion site for those interested in the case. Although the vast majority of our readers that posted have been willing to conform both to basic standards of decency and to our request avoid profanity and vulgarity, there are others who have seen fit to post obscene, offensive and objectionable content, including racist and sexist speech.<BR/><BR/>That will not be tolerated on our website."<BR/><BR/>Maybe I read too much into that, or maybe not. No offense I hope.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-39808760804073140122007-09-07T16:22:00.000-04:002007-09-07T16:22:00.000-04:00Anonymous 2:44 said... ....Bob Groppe and others: ...Anonymous 2:44 said... <BR/><BR/>....Bob Groppe and others: I just tried to order it from Amazon and they said it will ship in 1-4 weeks! I take that to mean they have sold out! It's #20 on their hot releases list (updated hourly).<BR/><BR/>...I lived in the Raleigh-Durham area when all this started, and I'm a Duke alum. We moved back to Texas about a year ago and this is the first time I've really regretted it--I can't find KC's book in the stores here--yet! <BR/>::<BR/>Most interesting. I live in Houston and can't find the book at Borders or Barnes and Noble anywhere in Houston or the Sugarland area.<BR/><BR/>They are pressing me hard to special order it, of course.<BR/><BR/>I am waiting for my copies to arrive from amazon.com.<BR/><BR/>Good luck.<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29001280784467448922007-09-07T16:18:00.000-04:002007-09-07T16:18:00.000-04:00"In other news, The Chronicle's message board (whi..."In other news, The Chronicle's message board (which was closed down during the summer because of faculty displeasure over critical postings) is back up."<BR/><BR/>-Not true. Did you even read the editor's note?<BR/><BR/>In the summer the Chronicle staff is down to 4 or 5 students who stick around (everyone else leaves). Simply not enough time to monitor the thing PLUS as the Chronicle is an independent entity from the university (with its own board of trustees, publishing company, endowment, editorial staff, etc), it also doesn't have the university's resources to litigate or effectively stave off any civil lawsuits from comments on the site (if not properly policed).<BR/><BR/>-A former ChroniclerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-65684276504813569302007-09-07T16:01:00.000-04:002007-09-07T16:01:00.000-04:00Dickens you say!heard being uttered by Mike Nifong...Dickens you say!<BR/>heard being uttered by Mike Nifong as he enter his cell today.<BR/> "I wear the chain I forged in life! I made it link by link and yard by yard! I gartered it on of my own free will and by my own free will, I wore it."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19001460648144692112007-09-07T15:45:00.000-04:002007-09-07T15:45:00.000-04:00Re 2:54's "(N)o city will ever agree to political ...Re 2:54's "(N)o city will ever agree to political reform simply because an opponent in a lawsuit demanded it. If it's a good idea, why not do it before you're forced?"<BR/><BR/>Actually, a number of reforms in the Durham crim justice system have come about because of lawsuits. The biggest, both figuratively and literally, is the huge jail that Nifong checked himself into today. The prior hellhol... I mean facility was on the top flooor of the judicial buidling. When it got crowded, it was like something out of Dickens. <BR/><BR/>Ken Duke, Atty<BR/>Durham, NCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53799212070341606112007-09-07T15:35:00.000-04:002007-09-07T15:35:00.000-04:00Stop worrying about the 20 or so supporters...half...Stop worrying about the 20 or so supporters...half were forced by being family anyway. Since Nifong got 95% of the black Durham vote, that would make him about 88,000 supporters short this morning.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-36735943178414310502007-09-07T15:34:00.001-04:002007-09-07T15:34:00.001-04:00Not 'othered' yet, but feeling a touch disempowere...Not 'othered' yet, but feeling a touch disempowered. Nothing that a stiff drink after work won't take care of.<BR/><BR/>In other news, The Chronicle's message board (which was closed down during the summer because of faculty displeasure over critical postings) is back up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87752366890580914942007-09-07T15:34:00.000-04:002007-09-07T15:34:00.000-04:001:44, et. al.One of the singular accomplishments o...1:44, et. al.<BR/><BR/>One of the singular accomplishments of Taylor and Johnson's book is the "rehabilitation" of these falsely-accused young men, their characters, and good names, in the eyes of anyone who reads it with honesty and fairness.<BR/><BR/>While one book cannot undo the months of accumulated slanders and scorn heaped upon the three by the blind mouths of Nifong, his minions, the media, and agenda-driven academicians, this one comes as close as meticulous, factual reporting can. It certainly nails the breathtaking mendacities of the charges and contemptible attacks against them. At the same time it generates enormous empathy for Seligmann, Finnerty, and Evans, their families, teammates and friends.<BR/><BR/>Anyone who can read the book's account of Bannon's and Clooney's climatic cross of Meehan on December 15, without experiencing a chill down the spine as Dave Evans did, simply has no conscience. Anyone who can read dry-eyed the friend's hopeful note of encouragement to Evans that closes the final chapter on the case has no heart nor understanding.<BR/><BR/>On another thread, someone griped about being "othered" by criticism of the original (false) accuser and the egregious 88. For Collin, Reade, and David, this book accomplishes just about the opposite: it restores, in the public arena, a measure of their humanity that was taken from them. The book may be even more of a gift to them than to the public.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-5917991857794127142007-09-07T15:25:00.000-04:002007-09-07T15:25:00.000-04:00Apethetic Durham Voters have just been embarrased ...Apethetic Durham Voters have just been embarrased once again by there elected officials!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46054247754159687792007-09-07T15:22:00.000-04:002007-09-07T15:22:00.000-04:00Enjoyed your Post interview.Enjoyed your Post interview.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49063874124705425462007-09-07T15:14:00.000-04:002007-09-07T15:14:00.000-04:00I guess it's pretty easy for these people to belie...I guess it's pretty easy for these people to believe in Nifong's "integrity" and "goodness" when they clearly don't have any idea what those words mean.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-633211027151427292007-09-07T15:08:00.000-04:002007-09-07T15:08:00.000-04:00"....every day for the rest of your life," Mikey."....every day for the rest of your life," Mikey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-21636945620252962252007-09-07T15:03:00.000-04:002007-09-07T15:03:00.000-04:00Sad that people in Durham can't help but continue ...Sad that people in Durham can't help but continue to look foolish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com