tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post4005068954688146873..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Why Love Is Bad Lawkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger73125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41461019169952755312009-05-20T18:22:10.939-04:002009-05-20T18:22:10.939-04:00Love is cited as precedent in the recent ruling in...Love is cited as precedent in the recent ruling in the <A HREF="http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2009/0520091golf1.html" REL="nofollow">Giuliani v. Duke case.</A>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72000449340878926222009-05-19T09:20:00.000-04:002009-05-19T09:20:00.000-04:00NCCU is a "good school"!!!!!
By what measure? I ...NCCU is a "good school"!!!!!<br /><br />By what measure? I am sure that some people graduating from NCCU are smart and hard working-good for them. But NCCU is not a good school.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52831323005769326412009-05-18T20:05:00.000-04:002009-05-18T20:05:00.000-04:00"It may be your opinion of..........CGM is so low ...<I>"It may be your opinion of..........CGM is so low you see anything having to do with (her) as a negative."</I>*********************<br /><br />You're probably right.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43318204962225745672009-05-18T17:17:00.000-04:002009-05-18T17:17:00.000-04:00A lot of those students take 6 years to graduate b...A lot of those students take 6 years to graduate because they are working 40 hours a week and paying their own way through school. I just don't see what you are talking about in this article you linked to. It may be your opinion of NCCU and CGM is so low you see anything having to do with them as a negative. Based on the numbers this article gives, I would have to say Crystal did a good job graduating and with her grades.<br /> NCCU is a good school and working harder to get better, in my opinion. Students from NCCU should be encouraged to see one of their own, Dan Blue, elected to the chair of the Duke BOT along with his many political accomplishments. Hard work and study paid off in his case as in the case of many NCCU grads.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-90319062549159674192009-05-17T22:48:00.000-04:002009-05-17T22:48:00.000-04:00TO (5:57 PM)--
It shows nothing of the sort.
You...TO (5:57 PM)--<br /><br />It shows nothing of the sort.<br /><br />You want to know what it really shows?<br /><br />That in the 21st century and before, affirmative action, a misguided quota system, a public school system in this country where teachers are afraid to require rigorous work from every student for fear of reprisals, and that even middle and upper-middle class black students are not required to perform adequately so that even a third or fourth-tier school like NCCU is "too hard".<br /><br />I really am tired of the soft little lies that we must live by......and then the rest of society is supposed to take the blame for lack of achievement from some students because "everyone is out to get them".....<br /><br />.....or whatever lingo is being used on any given day.<br /><br />From day one---K-12 and beyond---evaluations must begin being made on true merit.<br /><br />Poor white students as well as poor students from any other group should be given consideration for their financial need.<br /><br />Socio-economic, not race or gender.<br /><br />Here's what has happened at schools like NCCU.<br /><br />Requirements in the public schools have been lowered to such an extent that students aren't fully prepared to perform on university level once they have their high school degree.<br /><br />I had a good friend who was a professor at UNC-CH law school. He died of cancer about a decade ago.<br /><br />He was about 25 years my senior, a Harvard Law School alumnus, and one of the most liberal people I've ever known.<br /><br />But he took his work very seriously. Nothing was more important to him.<br /><br />There was great friction between him and some other members of the law school faculty about the compromises they continued to make regarding admissions and curricula at the expense of scholarship.<br /><br />He was against the rotten system of using race for that simple reason.<br /><br />He even tutored many black students at his home on weekends to bring them up to speed.<br /><br />He explained that the minority students that were accepted at places like Harvard should really be at schools like UNC-CH, and the minority students accepted at UNC-CH should really be attending one less rigorous.<br /><br />Everything is bumped up a notch or two because of the race agenda and the students have a tough time performing as a result.<br /><br />This was really something for him to admit; however, KC reminds me so much of him because he wouldn't sacrifice scholarship for a political agenda.<br /><br />He also said that this system made it difficult for law school graduates when they aren't hired at the most prestigious firms because they are quite simply not well-educated in the law. They spent most of their time in law school learning to write!<br /><br />I really don't know what else society is supposed to do for students at places like NCCU.....<br /><br />.......except just hand them a university diploma on their first day as freshmen and say...."OK, here it is. You don't have to do a thing for the next four years."<br /><br />The most shocking thing from that article, IMO, was that students take 6 years to get a B.A.<br /><br />It's a sick world.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-66398654631130524782009-05-17T17:57:00.000-04:002009-05-17T17:57:00.000-04:00Debrah,
Your link to the NCCU article actually sho...Debrah,<br />Your link to the NCCU article actually shows what a strong effort it took for her to graduate. She worked for that degree, and this article only shows how hard it is for some students to get one.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1464243208106709762009-05-17T16:23:00.000-04:002009-05-17T16:23:00.000-04:00It's interesting to read some of the letters sent ...It's interesting to read some of the letters sent to local papers early in the case which are archived at <A HREF="http://friendsofdukeuniversity.blogspot.com/2006/03/expired-documents.html" REL="nofollow">FODU</A>.<br /><br />The one from Karla Holloway taking Coach K to task is particularly humorous and bizarre.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3833056911424542082009-05-17T06:47:00.000-04:002009-05-17T06:47:00.000-04:00You can bet that if the administration wants all s...You can bet that if the administration wants all students to have a 3.0 by the end of their freshman year that there is a lot of coercion to make sure that professors are handing out high grades to students whether those grades are deserved or not.<br />cksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-74810994898719528472009-05-17T06:16:00.000-04:002009-05-17T06:16:00.000-04:00Debrah re your 5/17/09 12:18 AM
Great informatio...Debrah re your 5/17/09 12:18 AM <br /><br />Great information - this corroborates our scepticism.qanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7935593297555215622009-05-17T00:18:00.000-04:002009-05-17T00:18:00.000-04:00And this is quite shocking.
A glimpse into how Ma...And <A HREF="http://www.newsobserver.com/news/story/1529710.html" REL="nofollow">this</A> is quite shocking.<br /><br />A glimpse into how Mangum was able to receive a degree so easily.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73223903632471827792009-05-15T18:05:00.000-04:002009-05-15T18:05:00.000-04:00My first case was representing an acquaintance cha...My first case was representing an acquaintance charged with cheating on a law school exam. I was starting my third year in law school, and there've been few cases in 18 years that have cost me more sleep. <br /><br />You can be sued for $200.00 or less in small claims court, and you're entitled to representation by a qualified attorney if you want to pay for it. But, if a future income stream potentially amounting to the tens of millions of dollars is endangered in law school -- or other graduate and undergraduate schools -- you don't have that right. Seems counter-intuitive to me. <br /><br />The guy's name now precedes "and Associates" as he operates his own intellectual rights firm in the Dallas area. Happily, I only lost sleep preparing for, and defending, the case. MOO! GregoryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68572027110090617362009-05-15T17:46:00.000-04:002009-05-15T17:46:00.000-04:00Roy Cooper will not run.<A HREF="http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1528769.html" REL="nofollow">Roy Cooper</A> will not run.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82489603235092541772009-05-15T14:50:00.000-04:002009-05-15T14:50:00.000-04:00Is this the same John Love?
Anyway, I hate the na...Is <A HREF="http://vlex.com/vid/disfavored-john-love-duke-university-37431446" REL="nofollow">this</A> the same John Love?<br /><br />Anyway, I hate the name "Love".Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-8385435738577209582009-05-14T22:31:00.000-04:002009-05-14T22:31:00.000-04:00Yes, I am sure that Mr. Blue will be Johnny-on-the...Yes, I am sure that Mr. Blue will be Johnny-on-the-spot to rectify the damage that Mr. Steel has managed to create during his time as the Duke BOT chair.William L. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802990642236807359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-27668977748082874772009-05-14T15:52:00.000-04:002009-05-14T15:52:00.000-04:00The commenter "Michael G" on this forum still trie...The commenter "Michael G" on <A HREF="http://schagerchat.blogspot.com/2009/05/bdsmn-epilogue-race-today-and-you.html" REL="nofollow">this forum</A> still tries to imply that the "roughness" between the races is the cause of the Lacrosse Hoax.<br /><br />And, of course, it would be the "majority culture" most responsible.<br /><br />Hideous.<br /><br />Purposeful ignorance.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43563528220284131622009-05-14T11:32:00.000-04:002009-05-14T11:32:00.000-04:00Some of you apologists for the harmony boy---and t...Some of you apologists for the <I>harmony boy</I>---and there are some who come here to do just that---please read his <A HREF="http://reharmonized.an-earful.com/2009/04/wonderland-rumor-mill/#comments" REL="nofollow">responses</A> to the most recent comments at his place.<br /><br />Where a feeble attempt to put even a dent in <I>Wonderland</I> and the work of its intellectually invincible author has always come up short.<br /><br />Did I say short?<br /><br />Rather I should say, empty.<br /><br />In many respects I have resisted sparring with those who live outside the Triangle and who have often assisted people like Reharmonizer Man in his efforts to dress up what happened in Durham in 2006, and the very same attitude that, essentially, still exists today.<br /><br />IIRC, the music professor has lived in Durham a little over a decade and his primary relationships are with Duke University.<br /><br />I do not fault anyone in the academy---even visiting professors---for not having the full panoramic view of any university city or town.<br /><br />Your work is on campus.<br /><br />Your friends and most of what you know will be campus-related.<br /><br />KC is the only one from the academy who endlessly researched this case, that town, and the Duke culture.<br /><br />KC is the only one who made numerous trips from New York down to Durham to see and witness first-hand what occurred.<br /><br />It continues to annoy when I see people from Duke and residents from Durham tendentiously attempting to put perfume on this sordid saga.<br /><br />They know next to nothing.<br /><br />At some subsequent time, I should really give an account of Durham's history---in black and white.<br /><br />There is so much that the invertebrates of Durham who sat by silently while three people were being railroaded with the use of open racism in 2006 need to admit.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-16796059205678280702009-05-14T09:40:00.000-04:002009-05-14T09:40:00.000-04:00Nobody is better positioned than Mr. Blue, both at...Nobody is better positioned than Mr. Blue, both at Duke and in Raleigh, to help make sure Duke students can never again be railroaded to injustice.<br /><br />Hence, I'm sure he will be urging grand jury reform in the legislature; enactment of a speedy trial law; revision of the rape laws to preclude release of the names of accused (but not convicted) persons; an end to a system in which the DA picks the judge to hear a case; etc.<br /><br />And I'm sure he will be joined by all civil libertarians, the ACLU, the NAACP, and most the Duke law faculty in calling for such reforms. <br /><br />And I'm also unable to find a "sarcasm" smiley for this blog...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46997924630552664332009-05-14T08:24:00.000-04:002009-05-14T08:24:00.000-04:00TO GP--
It's perfectly acceptable for the (9:32 A...TO GP--<br /><br />It's perfectly acceptable for the (9:32 AM) to use "stuff".<br /><br />He's <I>streetwise</I>.<br /><br />:>)Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33978159254625575472009-05-14T01:20:00.000-04:002009-05-14T01:20:00.000-04:00Reminder for college lacrosse fans anywhere within...Reminder for college lacrosse fans anywhere within reach of Annapolis, Maryland:<br /><br />Sunday afternoon, May 17 at the Navy-Marine Corps Memorial Stadium, the quarterfinals of the NCAA Division I tournament:<br /><br />Johns Hopkins vs. Virginia<br /><br />North Carolina vs. Duke<br /><br />Wonderland bloggers, do yourselves a favor by shutting down your computers, and take a spring road trip to Annapolis for a field lacrosse extravaganza!<br /><br />Look for Duke and Virginia to advance to the Final Four.Stuart McGeadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384232058188464218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-10610982765007032362009-05-13T19:08:00.000-04:002009-05-13T19:08:00.000-04:00I saw a movie years ago detailing the true story o...I saw a movie years ago detailing the true story of a boy in an English school who was falsely accused of stealing and thrown out of school. His father bankrupted himself defending his son's rights but I believe this was a landmark case that resulted in children in schools being granted the right to a real trial with legal representation. Do students in US Institutions have this right?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46547670729778538302009-05-13T15:21:00.000-04:002009-05-13T15:21:00.000-04:00KC makes an important assertion – that Love v. Du...KC makes an important assertion – that Love v. Duke University wrongly decided” After giving the matter some serious thought, I’m not sure that I agree. Judge Erwin probably got it right. Much of the bulletin would not be enforceable, nor would the courts want to involve themselves in such matters. However, looking back at our 5/11/09 10:18 post, the statement, “While the relationship between a university and its students may be contractual in nature, Duke’s student bulletin … did not contain the essential elements of a valid contract …” takes on new significance when we make note of the fact that in virtually all of the cited cases the judge did not declare the entire document a contact. He simply ruled that pertinent provisions (or policies) contained in the bulletin or handbook were enforceable as part of a broader (implied) contract between the parties. Furthermore, those enforceable provisions generally made specific promises or specified in significant detail enforceable processes and procedures. <br /><br />For instance, in the VSU case mentioned earlier, the plaintiff successfully argued that the school’s failure to follow the detailed disciplinary procedures spelled out in the school handbook constituted a breech of the general contractual relationship between universities and students. In the Duke case, the plaintiffs need only convince Judge Beaty that Duke’s failure to follow the detailed procedures in its “Harassment Policy and Procedures” document constituted a similar breech. While the students could not dictate the eventual outcome of the investigation, they were entitled to some form of resolution process. The policy document defines harassment as, “verbal or physical conduct – which may or may not be sexual in nature – that, because of its severity and/or persistence, interferes significantly with an individual’s work or education, or adversely affects an individual’s living conditions.” A footnote expressly states that the policy applies to more than the traditional protected classes of people. As you can see, this type of harassment is a special form of the state law tort, “intentional infliction of emotional distress.” Therefore, if Duke failed to follow its policy, as it applied to the complainants, and that failure caused or compounded their suffering, then Duke should be held in breech the contract. <br /><br />Duke’s assertion that the Carrington plaintiffs were not disciplined is immaterial. The policy specifically required the Carrington plaintiffs make an allegation or file a complaint within one year and then cooperate with either an informal and/or formal resolution process or forfeit their right to seek relief under the policy. Furthermore, while Duke was free to utilize any number of informal complaint resolution methods before instituting a formal harassment hearing process, they were required to complete the process within 45 days and have any resolution agreed to, and signed by, both parties. If a formal resolution process proved necessary, the policy imposed certain requirements on the complainant, as well as granting him the right to be heard. In this case, Duke did not employ any informal or formal harassment resolution techniques, they didn’t conduct an investigation, nor did they document a resolution agreement between the parties. <br /><br />Ironically, the policy specifically states that “this Policy shall be evaluated from the perspective of a reasonable person similarly situated to the complainant and in the consideration of the context of the behavior.” Does the word “juror” come to mind? <br /><br />Duke harassment policy: http://www.duke.edu/web/equity/harassment_policy-Jan2005.pdf<br /><br />-sdsgoAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-69970304614469656142009-05-13T14:59:00.000-04:002009-05-13T14:59:00.000-04:00Obviously Packwood is not good at "readin'"
The...Obviously Packwood is not good at "readin'" <br /><br />The obscenity provision did not mention speech, just obscenity, so it had nothing to do with speech. I was charged with "obscenity" for speech.<br /><br />I also did not say I graduated from Duke law school. I went to another reputable law school.<br /><br />So, Packwood misread at least two items.<br /><br />and, just to make it clear, since it seems to matter to "Packwood", I had been billed for a phone line i was not using. The service provide was Duke Telcom.<br /><br />Best of luck to you "Packwood"<br /><br />streeeetwiseAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46033771864223087662009-05-13T14:18:00.000-04:002009-05-13T14:18:00.000-04:00To streeetwise :: 5/13/09 :: 9:32 AM
Did you type...To streeetwise :: 5/13/09 :: 9:32 AM<br /><br />Did you type that response on your iPhone while in heavy traffic or are you someone other than a Duke Law School graduate?<br /><br />What 'stuff' had you been billed for?<br /><br />Why does obscene speech not have anything to do with speech?<br /><br />Sheesh!<br />::<br />GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51106291228431167272009-05-13T10:59:00.000-04:002009-05-13T10:59:00.000-04:00H-S editorial:
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Duke trustee c...H-S editorial:<br />*******************<br /><br /><I>Duke trustee chair a model<br /><br />May 13, 2009 <br /><br />Dan Blue, the new chair of the Duke University Board of Trustees, is one of those remarkable North Carolinians who not only has witnessed fundamental changes in society, but also has been deeply involved in driving the changes. <br /><br />As an African-American, his many accomplishments have provided a model for others to emulate. <br /><br />A description in a Duke biography of Blue said that he "grew up during segregation and Sputnik on a farm in rural Robeson County." <br /><br />His father worked at a textile mill to make ends meet for the family of seven. From such modest beginnings, Blue set his sights on the wider world. <br /><br />He earned a math degree from N.C. Central University in Durham. Then, inspired by Robert F. Kennedy, he decided to work for civil rights. <br /><br />Blue was accepted at Duke law school, which provided financial aid. One of only four black students in the law school, he received his degree in 1973. <br /><br />In 1981, he was elected to the state House of Representatives, and became Speaker of the House in 1990, the first African-American to hold that position in the South. He lost the job in 1995 when Republicans temporarily took control of the state House. That year, he was also named to a seat on Duke's board of trustees. <br /><br />Last week, Blue's career took off in two different directions. In addition to the Duke trustee position, he was also chosen by the Wake County Democratic party to fill the remaining term of the late state Sen. Vernon Malone. <br /><br />Beyond the racial milestone, there is another significant message in Blue's being named at Duke. <br /><br />"He is of and from North Carolina and is committed to Duke's success and leadership role in the community and the region," said Michael Schoenfeld, vice president for public affairs and government relations. <br /><br />Blue takes the helm during challenging economic times, with the university trying to trim $125 million from its annual budget, reduce staffing through early retirements and deal with losses in the university's endowment. <br /><br />Blue was a first-rate choice, both for the state Senate and the Duke trustees. His leadership will be felt positively in both arenas.</I> <br />****************<br /><br /><br />As usual, they feel compelled to deify someone because of the race of the individual.<br /><br />When will we ever get beyond this mindset?<br /><br />When all the early baby boomers and those who came before them are dead and gone?<br /><br />We are supposed to be "color-blind", yet race is all that is ever discussed....and yes, condescendingly deified.<br /><br />Dan Blue should be successful at something. He and others at universities at that time until the present have been given every ounce of largesse imaginable.....and after that, a prop for everything that is negative and can go wrong in life.<br /><br />The question is, really......"Why are there not a multitude of Dan Blues walking around?"<br /><br />The only way a black person cannot succeed in this country under the recent past and the current environment is if he or she decides not to be.<br /><br />This fawning and exaggeration of circumstances must all end.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-89310157174427177492009-05-13T10:35:00.000-04:002009-05-13T10:35:00.000-04:00More "Love-ly" relationships:
*******************...More "Love-ly" relationships:<br /><br />**********************<br /><br /><br /><I>Duke bids farewell to first Durham-native chairman<br /><br />The Herald-Sun<br />May 13, 2009 <br /><br />DURHAM -- Board Chairman Robert Steel and some other trustees ended their term of service Sunday with the close of the Duke University Board of Trustees meeting. <br /><br />The board elected state Rep. Dan Blue to replace Steel on May 8. Blue became the first African American elected to lead the board. <br /><br />Steel, Christine Durham, Cookie Anspach Kohn, James L. Vincent and Lewis T. (Rusty) Williams have helped guide the university through strategic plans, academic expansion and recently, a tight fiscal climate. <br /><br />Steel, former president and CEO of Wachovia Corp. was elected to the Duke Board of Trustees in 1996. He became board chairman in 2005, when he became the first Durham native to chairman the board. <br /><br />The trustees who retired along with Steel include: <br /><br />- Justice Christine Durham has been a member of the Utah Supreme Court since 1982 after serving as a trial judge for four years. She became Chief Justice in 2002. <br /><br />- Carol "Cookie" Louise Anspach Kohn, co-director of Valerie Wilson Travel, Inc. -- Highland Park, a corporate travel consulting firm, was elected to the Duke University Board of Trustees in 1997. <br /><br />- James L. Vincent is retired chairman and CEO of Biogen Inc., one of the leading biopharmaceutical companies in the world. <br /><br />- Dr. Lewis T. (Rusty) Williams is the founder and executive chairman of Five Prime Therapeutics, Inc., a biotech company that develops protein and antibody therapeutics. Serving his second term on the Duke University Board of Trustees, he is a member of the Medical Center Academic Affairs Committee and the Institutional Advancement Committee. <br /><br />Two young trustees, Benjamin Kennedy and Brandon Jonathan Goodwin, also left the board.</I>Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.com