tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post414347622139457702..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Tara Levicykcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger130125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18488673165140642952007-06-19T11:05:00.000-04:002007-06-19T11:05:00.000-04:00A bunch of posters were taken in the the SANE nurs...A bunch of posters were taken in the the SANE nurses in residence. Wiser heads pleaded for restraint in their unjustified criticizm of Nurse Tara. Now that the testimony, under oath, has shown a spotlight on the very wrong assessments of this nurse, posters refuse to apologize for the hounding of this nurse. Little Tara indeed - Poster have shown they can not stand up and admitt their error.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58831417598722819922007-06-18T13:59:00.001-04:002007-06-18T13:59:00.001-04:00In response to 1:27: Most kids you meet at Ivy Lea...In response to 1:27: Most kids you meet at Ivy League schools are a pleasure to deal with - and tend to do very well afterwards. Over the 30+ years that I have been teaching at one of the said schools, I have talked to a few students who seemed to have problems; among these, girls tended to talk like feminists, and boys seemed to be more interested in drugs and such (though the latter fact had to be guessed, since they were not confessing). These are just personal observations of a fairly well-informed person. And by the way, my daughters both have Yvy League degrees and both are white-skinned; one of them is more productive then myself (at least, in terms of salary), and neither of them is a feminist. I think they are both happy (and so does my wife, who is also not a feminist), but then what do parents know?<BR/><BR/>Oh, yes, little Tara. This was simply an expression of disrespect on my part. I do not know how short or tall she is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-69078666867042946642007-06-18T13:59:00.000-04:002007-06-18T13:59:00.000-04:00No need to be barefoot and pregnant. Productivity...No need to be barefoot and pregnant. Productivity is not so important. Only need is to be loving and grateful and abandon the harsh judgment of others. Love and understand your sons as much as you love your daughters. Love and understand the men in your life as much as the women while taking personal responsibilty for your own shortcomings. The radical feminism I have seen tends to short circuit this. Maybe you are able to do this just fine. Maybe not.<BR/><BR/>In my experience women (especially feminist women) don't have a clue about men and their unique ways of doing things. They tend judge men based on the female model and how closely they tend to act like women. You know, the whole moral superiority thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-30035237653107083922007-06-18T13:27:00.000-04:002007-06-18T13:27:00.000-04:00Actually, I come from a long line of white males.....Actually, I come from a long line of white males...some of whom also had Ivy League educations. If I were a right winger, I'd assume I had the genetic right to this education, but as it happens, I simply did well in school. (You know, the kind of well that you probably think only white males can do: math, science, etc., test scores--gee! Maybe I'm a white guy and don't know it. ;-)<BR/><BR/>And, for the record, I'm thinking I am quite productive. Maybe, even more productive than you are. Imagine! A woman! A feminist! I know: I should be home, bare foot and pregnant. I did that, too.<BR/><BR/>And, I don't blame too much on anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-74456682413235819292007-06-18T13:22:00.000-04:002007-06-18T13:22:00.000-04:00Ivy league happy feminist? :smile:Oh yeah, one of...Ivy league happy feminist? :smile:<BR/><BR/>Oh yeah, one of those privileged white women who enjoy an unprecedented amount of free time and choice due to the sweat, blood, sacrifice and tears of generations of white males. That kind? lol The ones who blame the world's ills on those same white males? uh huh.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29069015748841218922007-06-18T13:05:00.000-04:002007-06-18T13:05:00.000-04:00*happy feminist*happy feministAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-75867194417588466932007-06-18T13:04:00.000-04:002007-06-18T13:04:00.000-04:00Why do you call her "little Tara"? Is she short? ...Why do you call her "little Tara"? Is she short? Or do you mean she's young? You sound bitter to me. Did you grow up poor? Are you a feminist? What's your excuse?<BR/><BR/>I'm an Ivy League graduate, a feminist, and very happy. And, a feminist, I should think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12983105848057941882007-06-18T13:00:00.000-04:002007-06-18T13:00:00.000-04:00Oh Dear... 12:42 and 11:10 have trodden in monsieu...Oh Dear... <BR/>12:42 and 11:10 have trodden in monsieur's bucket.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-13595988454044199242007-06-18T12:42:00.000-04:002007-06-18T12:42:00.000-04:00Poverty certainly does not make people into femini...Poverty certainly does not make people into feminists. However, feminists tend to be women who blame others for whatever problems they might have. And this is not a characteristic conducive to success in life (unless your ambition is to teach Women's Studies or something like that - brrr!). And then the results of their destructive attitides become a proof that their attitudes were justified in the first place. I have met 19 year old Ivy League students (of both sexes) that sounded bitter and were sure that the world was determined to wreck their lives; girls who sound this way invariably describe themselves as feminists. And in most cases, they have very little going against them - except their own self-defeating world-view. <BR/><BR/>In fact, we do not know that little Tara was born poor; she seems to have chosen to live in RELATIVE poverty for more than 10 years - (roughly between 20 and 30, and these are good years!) - and then get a degree in Women's Studies. We know that she is something of a cooky feminist (talking to vaginas, etc.). I have met people of this type - and always was shure to have a female witness in the room!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7233889789886581462007-06-18T11:38:00.000-04:002007-06-18T11:38:00.000-04:0011:10 This is what it has come to. No presumption...11:10 This is what it has come to. No presumption of innocence - Very sad that the injustice that infected this case - is now being carried on by blogger.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-81585527706262227912007-06-18T11:18:00.000-04:002007-06-18T11:18:00.000-04:00Are you arguing that people become feminists becau...Are you arguing that people become feminists because they've been poor?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-70303053913803143922007-06-18T11:10:00.000-04:002007-06-18T11:10:00.000-04:00Several points.1. We are not sending Tara Levicy t...Several points.<BR/><BR/>1. We are not sending Tara Levicy to prison; this is not a trail, and we are not a jury. We are simply trying to figure out what happened. She is not entitled to presumption of innocence here.<BR/><BR/>2. As something of a self-made man myself (perhaps more "self" than "made"), I know something about people who have been living in relative poverty. Some develop drive, compassion, and other admirable qualities. Others become bitter and greedy in a petty sort of way. It seems very much to depend on how much they are inclined to blame others (men, racists, minorities, whoever) for their problems. Becoming an agressive feminist is prima facie evidence of a tendency to blame others for one's problems. <BR/><BR/>3. In trying to understand her role in this sordid story, we have to use whatever information is available. Her appearance, history, prior statements (under oath and otherwise) are all legitimate things to look at. Having seen many feminists in action (admittedly, in the academic setting, not in the medical one), I recognize the whole package. <BR/><BR/>4. Her story tended to change whenever Mangum came up with a new version of the events. Apparently Tara did not lie under oath, at least before 6.16.07. This last fact might keep her out of serious trouble, but does it make her believable? <BR/> <BR/>5. She is bad news.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7410464138402075392007-06-18T04:14:00.000-04:002007-06-18T04:14:00.000-04:00Are all people who have lived for years in poverty...Are all people who have lived for years in poverty "greedy"? What about the self-made men and women that this countries glorifies? Interesting. Very interesting.<BR/><BR/>Where does name calling get one?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52333294111095285202007-06-18T04:12:00.000-04:002007-06-18T04:12:00.000-04:00It appears that some of the posters are going afte...It appears that some of the posters are going after this woman. I wonder why? Reread your descriptions and you'll notice that there is an assumption of guilt--the same assumption you attack when it has to do with the men of the LAX.<BR/><BR/>No one cares what you think of this woman's looks! What does that have to do with anything?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-66563927644440336212007-06-18T01:34:00.000-04:002007-06-18T01:34:00.000-04:00Hello 12:18Drunk again?You sound just like Bob And...Hello 12:18<BR/><BR/>Drunk again?<BR/><BR/>You sound just like Bob Anderson without an editor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6281789353713418872007-06-18T01:29:00.000-04:002007-06-18T01:29:00.000-04:00The constituation states "Innocent until Proven Qu...The constituation states "Innocent until Proven Quilty". Not just for Lax players, but everyone. She testified under oath in a trial in a court room. Her testimony must be believed unless she is charged with perjurym tried in a court of law and convicted of perjury.<BR/>Lawyer williamson stated "Except for nIfong, no one testifying had ever done it under oath."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-5858072695020176952007-06-18T00:18:00.000-04:002007-06-18T00:18:00.000-04:00Having read this thread with fascination, I have a...Having read this thread with fascination, I have a feeling that some of the posters have seen the same person that I had, and others encountered someone entirely different. I saw a tense, scared woman trying to hide her fear under a thin mask of pretend arrogance. The notion that she might be attractive never crossed my mind (I am male, about the same age as Mike Nifong); she looks vicious. A look at the web shows a history of what I call "intellectual gutter": talking to<BR/>one's vagina, women never lie about rape, a Women's Studies degree, etc. Has anyone here LOOKED at what they tell each other in Women's Studies programs? The sheer senseless stupidity! For about 10 years, she worked as a rafting guide, apparently on a shoestring; tried to be an AIDS activist or some such thing... Massage... Then some sort of minimal nursing degree, with a rape-related tilt. None of this is illegal, but very feminist, not very smart, and mostly nasty - and very consistent, and a lot of it. She is not THAT young...<BR/><BR/>Conclusions: She is bad news. Man-hater, will lie, perjure, and cheat. All in the name of equality of genders, no doubt. After many years of relative poverty, must be quite greedy, and will cheat for many other reasons. Fortunately for would be victims, she appears to be cowardly and is reasonably stupid. Actively tried to frame the kids; helped ruin Nifong in the process (can't blame her for that, though). Driving her from her profession would be nice in a purely moral sense; whether it will improve the profession is a different matter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59890768702644107992007-06-17T18:40:00.000-04:002007-06-17T18:40:00.000-04:00[quote]I would like to know the truth here. Kc and...[quote]I would like to know the truth here. Kc and others reported numerous interviews with Levicy and Nifong - including one with her supervisor. This was from "Kingsbury" - not under oath, of course. This nurse was vilified on that accussation.She testifies under oath that it was two, seperated by ten months). No perjury action as yet from the Bar. She is telling the truth. Whats with this????????[quote]<BR/><BR/>I seems to me that there are three, no, four leaders of the pack on destroying Levicy - Kethra, Bill Anderson, KC Johnson, and Kathleen - volumes have been written by these 'Get Levicy' leaders, Levicy was called the THE ONE PERSON RESPONSIBLE for the Hoax, Levicy has been called an embarrassment to nursing, and much worse, she has been called upon to turn in her nursing license, their followers have attacked Levicy from every direction. Shameful.<BR/><BR/>Weather or not what the Gang of Four have said about Levicy is true I don't know. But a rush to judgment in condemning them is not right either. Let's give them a chance to regroup and reflect. If they have made a mistake, or have rushed to judgment I'm sure they will publicly apologize.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84552759711063952042007-06-17T15:04:00.000-04:002007-06-17T15:04:00.000-04:00anon 1:20 said **I am not sure that all of those w...anon 1:20 said <I>**I am not sure that all of those who thought the members of the LAX were guilty were feminists of any stripe.**</I><BR/><BR/>This is probably correct. However if you look at the gang of 88 I would guess that a very large percentage self identify as feminists. Like it or not feminism has morphed into that which it hates. These folks make patricarchy look like a tinker toy. Harsh, controlling, unforgiving, narcissistic, finger pointing etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-678101280054903772007-06-17T14:51:00.000-04:002007-06-17T14:51:00.000-04:00I don't know that Nurse Tara did everything right ...I don't know that Nurse Tara did everything right - I do know the team was exonerated for DNA from the materials provided in the rape kit - AG noted that also. I do know that when she testified she had two meeting - ten months apart with LE none of the high priced Lawyers challanged her testimony or accussed her of perjury. That means all the statements and conspiracy theories written about this nurse is untrue - including "blunt force trama." She may not have done everything right, but no one can prove she did anything wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51309814627111505772007-06-17T13:30:00.000-04:002007-06-17T13:30:00.000-04:00Two observations:First --A number of posters (or p...Two observations:<BR/><BR/>First --<BR/><BR/>A number of posters (or perhaps one poster posting multiple times) seem to be arguing that Levicy must have done everything right because she hasn't suffered consequences yet. "No perjury action as yet from the Bar. She is telling the truth." Of course, this is strikingly similar to what Nifong told the world about Judge Smith -- since Judge Smith didn't sanction him <B>yet</B> for misconduct, obviously there was no misconduct. We saw how well that worked out for Nifong -- Smith went on record and made it clear that the "yet" was in fact a very significant consideration.<BR/><BR/>Second, there are indeed many different varieties of "feminism". Unfortunately, many of those who call themselves feminism do not believe in equality -- they believe in bigotry. "Women never lie about being raped" is an example of such a bigoted statement. Evil people will lie about anything they think people will believe -- especially if some people are foolish enough to announce "oh, I will believe every single claim of a particular description, regardless of how badly the evidence contradicts it." To say "Women never lie about being raped", therefore, is to assert that evil people can only be men, and never women. That is bigotry, no matter how you dress it up; whether it should also be called "feminism" is a side issue.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-76038154168075973662007-06-17T01:20:00.000-04:002007-06-17T01:20:00.000-04:00But "feminism" wasn't perverted. What I notice he...But "feminism" wasn't perverted. What I notice here is people applying the term to others as an insult. I am not sure that all of those who thought the members of the LAX were guilty were feminists of any stripe.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps something similar to "feminist" as used here so often is "white male privilege." Lotta the bloggers don't like that.<BR/><BR/>And, hierarchies of evil are fairly clear. What Nifong did--and it was horrible--was to a countable number of people. What the Bushies have done is destroy a country. I'm thinking difference in kind...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24863125114480778632007-06-16T19:03:00.000-04:002007-06-16T19:03:00.000-04:00"take your points, but I suspect that even members..."take your points, but I suspect that even members of the LAX team would argue that it's somewhat different--and probably worse--for Bush to lie about Iraq"<BR/><BR/>Sure, but this is still very wrong. I don't think people here do or have to believe that this is the greatest injustice of our time to disapprove.<BR/><BR/>"I would feel much better if the word "some" sometimes appeared in front of feminists. They are no more a monolith than men."<BR/><BR/>Eh, see that false comparison is telling. "Feminists" are not counterparts to "men." That implies feminists represent all women, similar to the earlier statement that implied feminism was just about "equality" and "justice."<BR/><BR/>But it's not so simple. This case is a stark example of how feminism can be perverted against men (not for women) and against justice and equality. How often that tends to happen and where exactly it ranks on the hierarchy of evil, I'll leave to each to judge.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-5150456227336406002007-06-16T13:47:00.000-04:002007-06-16T13:47:00.000-04:00Did not check for condom use - what- SBI checked f...Did not check for condom use - what- SBI checked for everything. They have their own proceedures and are not dependent on a staff nurse at DUMC. I told you so also.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-25496008614763935102007-06-16T13:44:00.000-04:002007-06-16T13:44:00.000-04:00I would like to know the truth here. Kc and others...I would like to know the truth here. Kc and others reported numerous interviews with Levicy and Nifong - including one with her supervisor. This was from "Kingsbury" - not under oath, of course. This nurse was vilified on that accussation.She testifies under oath that it was two, seperated by ten months). No perjury action as yet from the Bar. She is telling the truth. Whats with this????????Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com