tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post51772583159828196..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Selena on Diversitykcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-90372991333541468432007-05-13T14:57:00.000-04:002007-05-13T14:57:00.000-04:00Re>Methinks you're becoming a 9/12 conservative. W...<B> Re></B><I>Methinks you're becoming a 9/12 conservative. What say ye?<BR/><BR/>ld<BR/><BR/>Mar 27, 2007 6:45:00 PM </I><BR/><BR/>Can't speak to KC, but what the heck is a conservative today? The group of 88 are disgusting ... but then so are most of Bush's appointments AND for exactly the same reason: Ideology and loyalty rather than rationalism and merit. <BR/><BR/>For one bleeding example: Doesn't this whole Durham railroad justice case case make you wonder just a tiny little bit about how many of those guys locked up in Guantanamo are actually guilty of anything? They haven't been in the normal legal system, have been denied representation and some can document their innocence as well as any of the LAX 3 can ... but they have NO out. Hopefully this isn't what you mean by conservative. <BR/><BR/>I mean, I think I may actually be a conservative and I wouldn't go near today's republican party. Not that I'd go for the democrats either. Rather, one must pick and choose very carefully these days, choose the rational people over the ideological nutters. The labels simply don't work today. Just try to fit "limited government" on Karl Rove's hat as another example.GaryBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02805265981497620290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82746367839716220422007-05-13T13:30:00.000-04:002007-05-13T13:30:00.000-04:00Hey, I like the idea of "diversity credits". See,...Hey, I like the idea of "diversity credits". See, I live and work tech in Silly-con valley and most of the people I live and work with are "privileged white males" (here, under "white" I'm of course including about 65% of them being Chinese or Indian, but who's counting? And the Jews too -- don't get me started -- you practically have to speak Hebrew here and I'd be upset except I'm one of them and we have the protocols of the elders and all to keep us busy).<BR/><BR/>Anyhow, the point is, we all end up in our isolated social circles and the one place I did actually get useful diversity was at a co-op preschool where you had to put in work weekends and so I would be rebuilding the roof of a playhouse working with a Mexican gardener, a black libertarian, and a VP at Cisco all together nailing tar tiles on a roof. You can actually make friends outside of your circle under such conditions. <BR/><BR/>I'm guessing it would be the same volunteering to do work at habitat for humanity etc and I'd count such activities as real diversity credits to offset any country club a privileged pontificator wants to pontificate from.<BR/><BR/>Thus, does Selena have such credits to trade??GaryBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02805265981497620290noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43633852997326071042007-03-29T20:39:00.000-04:002007-03-29T20:39:00.000-04:00"Someone stated earlier in reference to Roberts: '..."Someone stated earlier in reference to Roberts: 'Why does a self-styled champion of racial justice live in a white enclave?'<BR/><BR/>Isn't ironic that your 'parents' probably belly-ached the same rhetoric about Joe, Rose, John, Jackie, Bobby, and Ethel."<BR/><BR/>Georgia Girl,<BR/><BR/>I was the someone. First of all, don't assume anything about my parents. <BR/><BR/>Second of all, Joe, Rose, John, Jackie and Bobby were decent, honorable people. Don't ever compare them to a shithead like Selena. <BR/><BR/>Always, <BR/><BR/>RodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3102526237156036852007-03-29T17:50:00.000-04:002007-03-29T17:50:00.000-04:00One thing's for sure.If Selena Roberts married for...One thing's for sure.<BR/>If Selena Roberts married for money, she was no trophy wife.<BR/>She's one chunky looking hausfrau.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-25593963282212223962007-03-28T14:52:00.000-04:002007-03-28T14:52:00.000-04:00How is it that Selena can afford Westport? Family...How is it that Selena can afford Westport? Family money, marriage to a businessman who travelled the pipeline to Wall Street, salary from the Times?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-89448476520683185392007-03-28T13:32:00.000-04:002007-03-28T13:32:00.000-04:00Georgia GirlThe internet provides a great medium t...Georgia Girl<BR/>The internet provides a great medium through which to exercise our freedom of speech, that's the first step to saving our country.<BR/>Also, this is a forum to discuss the Duke Lacrosse case, and isn't meant to be a place where one can discuss their ideas on saving the world.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19002009444306907632007-03-28T12:09:00.000-04:002007-03-28T12:09:00.000-04:00Yes, this is late but...A little digging sheds som...Yes, this is late but...<BR/><BR/>A little digging sheds some light on Selena Roberts. As a newspaper agendist might write (following in the footsteps of so many before her…):<BR/><BR/>"Selena Roberts, discredited agendist for the NY Times, live in Westport, Connecticut, an exclusive community with an easy commute to New York City. Roberts lives on a tree-lined, dead-end street that has but a single gated access point. The beautiful homes in her neighborhood are graced with fine-trimmed lawns, many decorated by landscaping firms employing undocumented aliens.<BR/><BR/>Roberts home is valued by a popular real estate valuation service at $963,995 – far beyond the means of the average American, but within reach of an agendist working for a fading, major New York daily. Roberts home is surrounded by other homes that are valued from a low of $772,000 to a high of $1.4 million.<BR/><BR/>Roberts was unavailable for comment as to how she was able to afford her home in a community where so many of the residents send their children to private schools."Greg Toombshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08093911019916154110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51322597178596709602007-03-28T09:07:00.000-04:002007-03-28T09:07:00.000-04:008:11 PM closes with "Unless I critisized someone e...8:11 PM closes with <BR/><BR/>"Unless I critisized someone else for living in a similar situation, which I guess is what KC is trying to say here...?"<BR/><BR/>Keep working on it, 8:11, you're getting closer.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68571922786629148182007-03-28T08:26:00.000-04:002007-03-28T08:26:00.000-04:00Someone stated earlier in reference to Roberts: "...Someone stated earlier in reference to Roberts: "Why does a self-styled champion of racial justice live in a white enclave?"<BR/><BR/>Isn't ironic that your "parents" probably belly-ached the same rhetoric about Joe, Rose, John, Jackie, Bobby, and Ethel.<BR/><BR/>Double standards have been around forever. Hypocrisy is here to stay. It's easy to sit behind a computer and complain. But what are you guys doing (in real life) to actively combat liberal ideologies?E-mail:https://www.blogger.com/profile/05104865182873148411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-66324732371619287822007-03-27T23:33:00.000-04:002007-03-27T23:33:00.000-04:00Apparently Robert's alma mater is not that diverse...Apparently Robert's alma mater is not that diverse either. Auburn University has a black student population of 8%.<BR/><BR/>What is a "champion of diversity" anyway?<BR/>Isn't diversity supposed to be about recognizing and appreciating differences and individual uniqueness blah blah blah...<BR/>What, just not when it comes to rich white successful male athletes?(or anything white for that matter). <BR/><BR/>Diversity is the liberal's cat o'nine tails with which they flog themselves daily!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-37249942394195676222007-03-27T23:30:00.000-04:002007-03-27T23:30:00.000-04:00New English for Selena? Nah. Just the old Grain o...New English for Selena? <BR/>Nah. Just the old Grain of Sand that Creates the Pearl …Conflict Creation Routine.<BR/><BR/>I re-read the ‘English’ used by Selena, Amanda, the G88 and compared what they had to say with the words of Linda Fairstein, the former head of the Manhattan District Attorney’s Sex Crimes Unit.<BR/><BR/>All but Fairstein are using shock English as …conflict model building blocks…to raise consciousness. <BR/><BR/>During the Civil Rights training in the 1960’s frequent reference was made to the work of William James, American psychologist and philosopher (1842-1920), who is credited with the consciousness moment in Education.<BR/><BR/>Emotions, we were taught, cause one to be more conscious or to say it like might be said in the classroom. <BR/>“The grain of sand is the necessary irritant that prompts the oyster to create the pearl”.<BR/><BR/>The little piece of wisdom is credited to William James.<BR/><BR/>Selena, Amanda and the G88 are functioning as that necessary and irritating ‘grain of sand’ as they seek to create the pearls of wisdom that will change the world as we know it. <BR/><BR/>Think … Potbangers. <BR/><BR/>Fairstein is having none of it. She speaks in clear English. Noun – Verb – Object <BR/><BR/>When so many of these ‘Grain of Sand’ folks are working together, a critical mass develops whereby the organizational environment becomes hostile. Thus, the hostile work environment law suits.<BR/><BR/>The English that we are reading from these people is really nothing more than Developmental Conflict Model Building. <BR/><BR/>Apparently all of these people believe that Americans are just a naïve as they might have been when William James was alive.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps we will be allowed to see hostile work environment argued in a proper court of law. <BR/><BR/>Suppose Selena will be around to cover that story?Gary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12040534302161417922007-03-27T22:06:00.000-04:002007-03-27T22:06:00.000-04:00Thank you, rabbi-philosopher, glad I could brighte...Thank you, rabbi-philosopher, glad I could brighten your day. We must use all the tools we have, and humor is the one that seems to work the best against the pompous and self righteous.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48120257475254573702007-03-27T21:45:00.000-04:002007-03-27T21:45:00.000-04:00My goodness!My goodness!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43951872498782398472007-03-27T21:44:00.000-04:002007-03-27T21:44:00.000-04:00The Times, yes, what crap!The Times, yes, what crap!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7115979453598278042007-03-27T21:42:00.000-04:002007-03-27T21:42:00.000-04:00My Mother said " We can't save the world, the coun...My Mother said " We can't save the world, the country or even our town. What we can do is make our little corner of the world as good, ethical, honest and clean as we can." Saving America one good deed at a time,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-22569719823524395002007-03-27T20:59:00.000-04:002007-03-27T20:59:00.000-04:00Quote of the day!"Does Selena buy hypocracy offset...Quote of the day!<BR/><BR/>"Does Selena buy hypocracy offsets?"<BR/><BR/>That is so funny.S.G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09746381491495106590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-63856553420823230832007-03-27T20:58:00.000-04:002007-03-27T20:58:00.000-04:00Uh, Selena, want diversity? Try the Marine Corps....Uh, Selena, want diversity? Try the Marine Corps. My middle son, with SAT and ACT scores that drew letters from schools like Yale and the University of Chicago, chose to be a Marine. No "classism", no "racism", no "elitism" there. Oh, by the way, he met his rifle instructor down at Parris Island, and "she" seemed nice. Crawl down from your Ivy Tower, Selena, and meet the best and the brightest [and most diverse!].Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34424544414996145842007-03-27T20:47:00.000-04:002007-03-27T20:47:00.000-04:00TO 5:32:It is perfectly acceptable to question whe...TO 5:32:<BR/><BR/>It is perfectly acceptable to question where someone lives when it is so far out of a racial balance that might be found in other parts of the country. <BR/><BR/>But it is even more important to question where Roberts lives because she raised the question about diversity. Her arguments, or rants rather, about diversity lose all credibility when you learn that she favors low crime, good schools, nice houses and the like over diversity.<BR/><BR/>She raised the issue. Prof. Johnson did not. So, an examination of her own commitment to diversity is perfectly in order. Apparently, she values diversity no more than I do. And on that, I can agree with Roberts. Racial diversity is more dangerous than valuable. I'll honestly state my opinion. Will she?<BR/><BR/>WINDBAGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51276815758802839772007-03-27T20:42:00.000-04:002007-03-27T20:42:00.000-04:00Where is this entire argument headed? What is the...Where is this entire argument headed? What is the purpose a one-sided debate? <BR/><BR/>Please put aside your tunnel vision and look at the big picture.<BR/><BR/>My dad was a huge bigot and racist, and he had that RIGHT. What he failed to do was allow his "children" to consider other ideologies. That's exactly what goes on in here.<BR/><BR/>Does any shred of tolerance exist on either side (left or right)?<BR/><BR/>Take, for instance, the man who built a skyscraper on the concept of a "pencil". At that time, he had not the slightest empathy for minorities. Today, his foundation (heirs) supports MANY liberal causes (some of these causes I loathe).<BR/><BR/>It's a time for healing. It's a time for compromising. It's a time we ALL unite. Forget Duke ... We have a "country" to save.E-mail:https://www.blogger.com/profile/05104865182873148411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-45719434480719170432007-03-27T20:41:00.000-04:002007-03-27T20:41:00.000-04:00the only people who are safe with such feelings fo...the only people who are safe with such feelings for diversity are these people.<BR/><BR/>we see what a healthy dose of diversity did for the lax players and the young woman who attended the black frat party. as long as selena stays in that suburb then she can have all the warm feelings about diversity that she wants.<BR/><BR/>i would caution her, however, to restrain those feelings if she ever visits the real world. these feelings just might be dangerous.<BR/><BR/>WINDBAGAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-74114326516779466952007-03-27T20:40:00.000-04:002007-03-27T20:40:00.000-04:00The reason people like Ms. Selena don't live in th...The reason people like Ms. Selena don't live in the hood is because they've learned it isn't wise. They aren't wanted.<BR/><BR/>I'm reminded of a Professor I had at U.T. Austin in the '70's. A real Group of 88 mush brain.<BR/><BR/>The professor could not understand why, when he moved to the hood and his childs bike was stolen, the father of the perp. (a young minority) beat the she-i-t out of the professor for demanding his property back. <BR/><BR/>Micro-Marxism was lost on this numbskull.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24104746439589249212007-03-27T20:11:00.000-04:002007-03-27T20:11:00.000-04:00Bill Alexander,What I'm saying there is that norma...Bill Alexander,<BR/><BR/>What I'm saying there is that normal people, at least, don't chose the town they're living in based on its compatibility with their opinions on diversity. I know I didn't; did you?<BR/><BR/>I live in a 'lily white, upper-class suburb' and I don't understand why that should make my opinions any less valid. Unless I critisized someone else for living in a similar situation, which I guess is what KC is trying to say here...?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68897506099760240022007-03-27T19:53:00.000-04:002007-03-27T19:53:00.000-04:00I believe what 5:32 is saying, when saying "She (S...I believe what 5:32 is saying, when saying "She (Senena) is not responsible for the diversity of her town any more than anyone else who decides to live in a town with good schools, nice houses, and low crime. " is that if you want good schools, nice houses, and low crime then you can't have diversity. Perhaps the opinion of a closet racist? No, that would be calling names.<BR/><BR/>Bill AlexanderAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59735623223592268972007-03-27T19:48:00.000-04:002007-03-27T19:48:00.000-04:007:20Nifong is still in office. The players are sti...7:20<BR/><BR/>Nifong is still in office. The players are still facing 30 years in prison. The incompetent/criminal police and judges are still working every day. And yet you think the story is losing its legs. Take your ennui elsewhere - no one is compelling you to read this blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-65618069360114635502007-03-27T19:20:00.000-04:002007-03-27T19:20:00.000-04:00This story is losing its legs, and the increasingl...This story is losing its legs, and the increasingly shrill tone of this blog seems like an effort to keep the Duke situation in play.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com