tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post537297117991265605..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Herald-Sun: Biased to the Endkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger122125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-11785011706174098282007-04-17T12:11:00.000-04:002007-04-17T12:11:00.000-04:00Any news on whether/how the print version correcte...Any news on whether/how the print version corrected yesterday's story would be appreciated.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-11051430756550036672007-04-17T08:14:00.000-04:002007-04-17T08:14:00.000-04:00Jacqueline 10:52 AM --If the facts are as Mr. Ashl...Jacqueline 10:52 AM --<BR/><BR/>If the facts are as Mr. Ashley states, what does that say for the vaunted check and balance of editor review that journalists are always trotting out that supposedly makes newspapers so much more accurate than blogs written by people sitting around in their pajamas?<BR/><BR/>The fact is 99% of all people who work at newspapers are of one mind and speak with one voice, so there is no checking and no balancing going on whatsoever. It's just like the NYT motto (revised) says "all the news that fits our agenda, we print."<BR/><BR/>People must stop buying the inferior product created by newspapers and weekly news magazines like TIME and NEWSWEEK. Let the marketplace work for these worthless scoundrels.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50822095606314033532007-04-16T23:23:00.000-04:002007-04-16T23:23:00.000-04:00I wonder if Debrah also communicates with Andrew L...I wonder if Debrah also communicates with Andrew Luster.E-mail:https://www.blogger.com/profile/05104865182873148411noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82335700858793907002007-04-16T21:28:00.000-04:002007-04-16T21:28:00.000-04:00My particular favorite among the Herald-Sux's many...My particular favorite among the Herald-Sux's many editorials on this issue was the piece (forgotten the date, either late '06 or early '07) wherein the paper opined that the trial should ;move ahead if for no other reason than to allow the players the chance to prove their innocence.<BR/><BR/>NOTE TO EDIT WRITER: Regardless of what you think of the merits of a criminal trial, if a you EVER finds yourself writing a line like that in an editorial, PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE KEYBOARD AND FIND ANOTHER LINE OF WORK.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-27498105003890454522007-04-16T20:59:00.000-04:002007-04-16T20:59:00.000-04:00Does anyone know whether the incorrect article hit...<I> Does anyone know whether the incorrect article hit the print version? For some reason, we don't get it here on the West Coast... </I><BR/><BR/>Yes the "incorrect article", a.k.a "Version #1" (4:35:00 PM), was in the April 16 print edition with first-page above-the-fold headline "Racial strain factor in Cooper declaration".<BR/><BR/>I think version #1 is likely true, except for claiming that Cooper said that on 60 Minutes. He didn't, and anyway such opinions belong on the editorial page.<BR/><BR/>Speaking of the editorial page, on Sunday Bob Ashley rebutted Jim Cooney's attack on the H-S. He said that they had indeed criticized Nifong and cited a couple of examples. One of them was a Jan. 14 editorial. For some reason Bob Ashley omitted that the editorial was titled "Nifong's request was the right call". He also omitted the criticism was that the "botched photo lineup" might let the hooligans escape on a technicality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-56180578515486857102007-04-16T20:42:00.000-04:002007-04-16T20:42:00.000-04:00H-S is a travesty of a paper that seems to only ex...H-S is a travesty of a paper that seems to only exist to support the DPD, city council and mayor no matter what the truth may be. This paper is an enabler of injustice, lies, and untruths in a veiled attempt to perpetuate the cronyism and illegal misdeeds of the City of Durham. This latest article proves it's just "bidness" as usual in Durham. Suggest the Herald Scum get an award for their reporting - how about the "Pravda" award.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19383977479036549812007-04-16T20:39:00.000-04:002007-04-16T20:39:00.000-04:00Nifong knows the blacks in Durham so well and he w...Nifong knows the blacks in Durham so well and he was so confident that their bombastic ways would push this case by their sheer racist forces that he felt safe to go ahead full speed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-67030809150743978362007-04-16T20:03:00.000-04:002007-04-16T20:03:00.000-04:00beckett, One interesting point in Nifong’s hearing...beckett,<BR/> <BR/>One interesting point in Nifong’s hearing to dismiss the ethics violations. Nearly 95% of criminal complaints are plea bargained, or in some way quietly disposed of. This makes his premise of no trial, no harm so dastardly, as DA’s might get innocent individuals to plea to a lesser charge just to get off the hook. With only a 1 in 20 chance of going to trial, Nifong might’ve figured he’d give it a shot, a quick one. That is my only guess at how he could have proceeded with such a profoundly stupid attempt at prosecution. But as we have come to know, “he picked the wrong families” who took a NFW approach. Again, although he must have been a basically crooked person at heart, by the first week of April, the second week at the latest, anyone with a scintilla of sense, even if only a sense of self preservation, would have seen the folly of pursuing this case. He did not appear at that point to have lost control of things, from my recollection of his comportment. And yet, with all the suggestions, the theories, I can not begin to fathom why he did so.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530476676444348404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57276742793897937102007-04-16T19:13:00.000-04:002007-04-16T19:13:00.000-04:00Jack @ 1:45I share your mystification over Nifong'...Jack @ 1:45<BR/><BR/>I share your mystification over Nifong's plan. How did he think he was going to get away with this, when he must have known by mid-April that he had no case?<BR/><BR/>After thinking it over, I've come up with the following:<BR/><BR/>1) He sees Crystal's name attached to the complaint, and recalls immediately that she and her family are deeply indebted to him for his role in prosecuting her uncle's murderer. He thinks he knows exactly who she is and exactly how much cooperation he can expect from her.<BR/><BR/>2) He realizes that he can get "a million dollars worth of advertisements" for his campaign by demagoguing the case in the black community.<BR/><BR/>3) He naively figures the media, always hungry for fresh meat to devour, will tire of the case and move on to a new meal a few weeks after he's safely won the primary.<BR/><BR/>4) He'll then call in his chips with Crystal and get her to agree with his decision to drop the charges, which will be accomplished with no fanfare and little media notice. Any legal indiscretions he's committed, he'll bury by the power of his office.<BR/><BR/>With that plan in mind, he hopped on the back of the tiger. Needless to say the tiger had a mind of its own, and large, powerful claws and teeth, and he found too late that he couldn't safely dismount.<BR/><BR/>beckettbecket03https://www.blogger.com/profile/18173177473977303546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7250154977797898082007-04-16T19:01:00.000-04:002007-04-16T19:01:00.000-04:00@ 8:40 amI agree that Cooper's response was not we...@ 8:40 am<BR/><BR/>I agree that Cooper's response was not well worded, but I am not so sure that I agree the question was badly framed.<BR/><BR/>I did not interpret the answer as you did. I agree that Cooper said the accuser would not be charged in the interests of justice. Obviously, to the extent that he and his staff believe she is insane, a failure to prosecute is in the interests of justice. But I do not agree that he denied that the effect on race relations was one of the considerations in his definition of the interests of justice. It would not be one of my considerations in the interests of justice: fiat justitia ruat coelum (let justice be done though the heaven falls.)<BR/><BR/>I suppose that I could accept a position that 1) the accuser may well not be right in the head, and, given THAT fact and the state of race relations in Durham, 2) not proceeding was in the interests of justice. Some on this blog will consider that a squishy position, but life sometimes demands squishy.<BR/><BR/>What justice ABSOLUTELY demands is the criminal prosecution of Mike Nifong and his helpers in the DA's office and the police department. The underlings can mostly plead out so long as they are discharged from their positions and testify against Nifong. Every prosecutor in the nation must know that intentional abuse of power if discovered leads to prison, which I doubt is a good place for an ex-DA to end up.<BR/><BR/>JeffMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59415070829893299202007-04-16T18:59:00.000-04:002007-04-16T18:59:00.000-04:00Beckett--Moreover, there are still members of the ...Beckett--<BR/><BR/>Moreover, there are still members of the DPD who were there during the Peterson case whom we know are envious and resentful of those who appear to be affluent and priveleged.<BR/><BR/>Although Peterson was beginning to have financial difficulties, none of that was known by the public until the trial.<BR/><BR/>He lived in a huge mansion with grounds and a pool. Drove the best imports, sent the kids to expensive schools...etc.....<BR/><BR/>The DPD hated him...just as they resent many Duke University students.<BR/><BR/>Heck, Peterson is even a Duke alumnus.<BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41306014872288031482007-04-16T18:51:00.000-04:002007-04-16T18:51:00.000-04:00Beckett--Now, now, disgruntled little person. Your...Beckett--<BR/><BR/>Now, now, disgruntled little person. Your hatred is showing.<BR/><BR/>The behavior of the Durham Police Department and how vindictive and overreaching they can be is VERY MUCH RELATED TO THIS CASE.<BR/><BR/>I would think that the fact that Peterson is spending his life in prison would give you enough pleasure so you wouldn't have to go off and wet your knickers.<BR/><BR/>Don't forget to watch the film about him tonight at 9 PM!<BR/><BR/>LOL!!!<BR/>LOL!!!<BR/><BR/>DebrahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-27355102417367030482007-04-16T18:29:00.000-04:002007-04-16T18:29:00.000-04:00Debrah:Please don't muddy this excellent blog with...Debrah:<BR/><BR/>Please don't muddy this excellent blog with sympathetic references to the despicable murderer Peterson! He's as guilty of murder as any murderer ever has been, and his case has no bearing whatsoever on the Duke Lacrosse case.<BR/><BR/>beckettbecket03https://www.blogger.com/profile/18173177473977303546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46627016179790822472007-04-16T17:35:00.000-04:002007-04-16T17:35:00.000-04:00Well said, Eric. I heartily agree.Well said, Eric. I heartily agree.heartmindhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17630443254656559747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29069519878274321812007-04-16T17:18:00.000-04:002007-04-16T17:18:00.000-04:00All Durhamites that subscribe to the H-S should be...All Durhamites that subscribe to the H-S should be rethinking that decision after they've witnessed their performance in the Nifong Scandal Case. How can it be justified?<BR/><BR/>Talk about throwing money down a rathole. They would be better off taking the money they pay each month, going to a street corner in the downtown area, and throwing it up in the air. They might or might not get something in exchange for the effort, but at least they wouldn't be getting completely bogus information for their money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-28111250804424672882007-04-16T17:06:00.000-04:002007-04-16T17:06:00.000-04:00Only whites can be racist.Don't be silly. Only tho...<I><BR/>Only whites can be racist.<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Don't be silly. <BR/><BR/>Only those on top can be racist.<BR/><BR/>Just imagine what it must be like in China to be a member of a caucasian derived minority ... or an Indian in Fiji ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48782429853995801662007-04-16T17:05:00.000-04:002007-04-16T17:05:00.000-04:00The story was about the influence of race on the d...The story was about the influence of race on the decision to exonerate the players. Then it changed to the influence of race on the decision not to charge the accuser. Now it is just about the decision not to charge the accuser. But that part was covered just as fully in last week's press conference. In other words, there's no actual news left!<BR/><BR/>A story about the influence of race on the decision to exonerate becomes a story about the fact that the AG decided not to prosecute over the false report, and *NOTHING ON THEIR WEBSITE* would give you any impression that anything changed...<BR/><BR/>If the original story was in the print edition, and tomorrow's print edition doesn't contain a mea culpa at least as prominent, then they will be, in my opinion, guilty of blatantly stirring up racial hatred through false statements. Frankly, that would in my opinion *become* the next story on this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-10072722724519359782007-04-16T16:58:00.000-04:002007-04-16T16:58:00.000-04:00Mother of God--after its *third* shot the H-S stil...Mother of God--after its *third* shot the H-S still can't get it right? Folks actually pay *money* to advertise in this odious rag? People actually *read* it? What a freaking circus act.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-13209638807111471962007-04-16T16:42:00.000-04:002007-04-16T16:42:00.000-04:00Cooper is just another liberal punk who looks a li...Cooper is just another liberal punk who looks a little better in a suit and speaks with a little more eloquence then Nifong.<BR/><BR/>He can word it however he wants to but isnt about to indict a black girl form these false accusations when he wants to be governor.<BR/><BR/>A real leader forgets about people falsely labeling him a racist and prosectues colorblind. Cooper is just as guilty as Nifong. <BR/><BR/>Stop hailing this man for his great decision in this case. He played both sides of the fence.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-5016076844933206002007-04-16T16:35:00.000-04:002007-04-16T16:35:00.000-04:00So far there are at least three versions of the ar...So far there are at least three versions of the article. For comparative purposes, here are the first two paragraphs of the article.<BR/><BR/>VERSION #1<BR/><BR/>DURHAM -- State Attorney General Roy Cooper says the strains the Duke lacrosse case inflicted on Durham's racial climate played a role in his decision last week to declare the three defendants innocent of sexually assaulting an exotic dancer. <BR/><BR/>Cooper made the comments on Sunday night's CBS "60 Minutes" news program in response to a question from interviewer Leslie Stahl, who described Durham as a "racially roiled" city because the dancer was black and the players white. <BR/><BR/>---------<BR/><BR/>VERSION #2<BR/><BR/>DURHAM -- State Attorney General Roy Cooper says the strains the Duke lacrosse case inflicted on Durham's racial climate played a role in his decision last week to not pursue false report charges against an exotic dancer who had claimed three Duke lacrosse players sexually assaulted her at a party. <BR/><BR/>"We did consider it [filing charges against the accuser]," Cooper said. "We did talk about it. But we think in the best interest of justice, that it was not the right thing to do." <BR/><BR/>---------<BR/><BR/>VERSION #3<BR/><BR/>DURHAM -- State Attorney General Roy Cooper says he considered filing false-report charges against the accuser in the Duke lacrosse case but decided not to "in the interests of justice." <BR/><BR/>"We did consider it [filing charges against the accuser]," Cooper said in response to a question from "60 Minutes" interviewer Leslie Stahl, who described Durham as "racially roiled" because the accuser is black and the players she said sexually assaulted her are white.<BR/><BR/>---------<BR/><BR/>Is anyone aware of any *other* versions they've posted???<BR/><BR/>So far they've corrected it once to fix the lie about the declaration of innocence, and they've changed it a second time to remove the connection of race to *any* decision, which was originally the whole point of the silly article. Yet the article still shows up at the same original URL, despite having *NO* indication that it's been corrected at least twice...<BR/><BR/>So much for journalism in Durham...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-86739150216669351622007-04-16T16:32:00.000-04:002007-04-16T16:32:00.000-04:00This whole case just reminds us of what we live th...This whole case just reminds us of what we live through everyday in our lives. <BR/><BR/>Only whites can be racist.<BR/><BR/>Rich people who are white dont deserve equal justice and are resented when they get it and held to a higher standard of punishment when they are guilty<BR/><BR/>Blacks get away with things that whites do not because whites are afraid to be labled racist and liberal politicians need the black vote.<BR/><BR/>Blacks will play the race card to their advantage until liberal whites wont allow them to which will be never because liberals cant win elections by having ideas of their own.<BR/><BR/>Liberals are the most powerful voice in america. If they ever get organized, this country is doomed.<BR/><BR/>Evil exists in this world and it is slowly taking over this country. Europe is already lost.<BR/><BR/>We are about 100 years away from turning into present day South Africa and Zimbabwe. <BR/><BR/>What made this country great will also be its downfall.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68969107158561929742007-04-16T16:01:00.000-04:002007-04-16T16:01:00.000-04:00JLS,Closer to No. 2The reason I thought his Columb...JLS,<BR/><BR/>Closer to No. 2<BR/><BR/>The reason I thought his Columbia pedigree was noteworthy is that it contributes to his position as journalistic insider who understands the elite media.<BR/><BR/>But you're right. In spite of the brainwashing he endured at Columbia, he came out all right.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-61161308732630369212007-04-16T16:00:00.000-04:002007-04-16T16:00:00.000-04:00Did the H-S change the text of its odiously mislea...Did the H-S change the text of its odiously misleading story for a *second* time?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49236885523677498812007-04-16T15:39:00.000-04:002007-04-16T15:39:00.000-04:00Money where the mouth is time: I just cancelled a...Money where the mouth is time: I just cancelled all weekly advertising in the H-S and am moving to direct mail. let the bleeding begin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50478361914440187912007-04-16T15:25:00.000-04:002007-04-16T15:25:00.000-04:001"33 Good question - my answer is no - I worked wi...1"33 Good question - my answer is no - I worked with and lived around all colors for fifty years and never encountered any hate and lothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com