tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post5890741279221885109..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Sunday Roundupkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger121125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-16613534838632229022007-09-24T16:35:00.000-04:002007-09-24T16:35:00.000-04:00TO 3:52 PM--Thanks for the suggestion, but I alrea...TO 3:52 PM--<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the suggestion, but I already have enough "jobs".<BR/><BR/>Worry about yourself.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48970831299202903162007-09-24T15:52:00.000-04:002007-09-24T15:52:00.000-04:00Debrah - Get a day job or start your own blog.Debrah - Get a day job or start your own blog.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-44035407944085854402007-09-24T12:17:00.000-04:002007-09-24T12:17:00.000-04:00TO 4:34 AM and the appendage @ 9:52 AM--I don't re...TO 4:34 AM and the appendage @ 9:52 AM--<BR/><BR/>I don't recall reading that anyone called Mangum "a ward of the state".<BR/><BR/>I know that I did not.<BR/><BR/>That is far too delicate a term.<BR/><BR/>To echo Butch Williams--Crystal Mangum is a whore.<BR/><BR/>It would also be a <I>knockout</I> assumption that she is getting public assistance--some type of welfare. Taxpayers are most certainly paying to feed her children and will, no doubt, be doing so forever.<BR/><BR/>Those who live in the Triangle know that the majority of Durham residents feed at the public trough in some way or another...even if they do sport an office and some bureaucratic title.<BR/><BR/>Very, <I>very</I> few productive people there.<BR/><BR/>Paper-shuffling and stealing.<BR/><BR/><I>Good things are happening in Durham!</I>.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82699123572905000022007-09-24T09:52:00.000-04:002007-09-24T09:52:00.000-04:00Very curious that Debrah has not responded to Very...Very curious that Debrah has not responded to Very Curious.<BR/><BR/>Very Curious by a knockout.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41320746934643950642007-09-24T04:34:00.000-04:002007-09-24T04:34:00.000-04:00re Crystal Mangum, DebrahAre you certain she's a w...re Crystal Mangum, Debrah<BR/><BR/>Are you certain she's a ward of the state? Why do you assume she's on public assistance.<BR/><BR/>Very CuriousAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43032870967619778262007-09-23T23:35:00.000-04:002007-09-23T23:35:00.000-04:00Saw this and thought about the acceptance of acade...Saw this and thought about the acceptance of academics of the likes of G88 and other "studies" writers:<BR/><BR/>"Americans have a long history of confusing inscrutability with genius."<BR/>-Elizabeth Spiers , founding editor, GawkerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15391788222730565412007-09-23T22:35:00.000-04:002007-09-23T22:35:00.000-04:00TO Ralph--I don't know how much any of it will be ...TO Ralph--<BR/><BR/>I don't know how much any of it will be worth.<BR/><BR/>The recent N&O editorial and these subsequent letters...along with the Barry Saunders diatribe and the N&O's "public editor" Ted Vaden acting as flea-bitten apologist for Saunders.....<BR/><BR/>....are all the News & Observer's way of telling the public where they expect things to go.<BR/><BR/>They are telling the black community who essentially supported the railroading of three innocent men....<BR/><BR/><I>"We are back inside your pocket. We certainly do not support innocent people being sent to prison; however, we are with you. These rich white boys have had enough kid-glove treatment. They are safe now and remember one thing----(They're not saints! They hired strippers! And......they're--gasp!--white!!!!! We are finished padding their affluent azzes. You can count on us to be gettin' busy on the downlow widcha. The N&O izza comin' home!"</I><BR/><BR/>I'm glad KC will not be around to see how they turn the Pulitzer-esque reporting of Joe Neff into another nosedive into the squalor and insanity of Durham <I>activists</I>.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18767932761603518912007-09-23T22:34:00.000-04:002007-09-23T22:34:00.000-04:00I've noticed a higher degree of civility these day...I've noticed a higher degree of civility these days in some quarters: in recent years, if you held open a door for someone of another race, they often would march on through, as if you owed it to them. I noticed this trend in both races, and it was painful to watch.<BR/><BR/>Now, it seems, that there are people of goodwill who seem to appreciate nice gestures. Many folks see the precipice, and they're trying hard not to go there.<BR/><BR/>Not so the NAACP, Jesse Jackson and the Duke University AAS; not so, the extreme right - such as the socialists from Roanoke.<BR/><BR/>There are still too many - way too many - black folks who believe Nifong's evil tale. And there are way too many who believe that Mike Vick is being persecuted. They haven't rushed to aid another man, Ty Hilmo, who allegedly fed cats and kittens to his dog. They haven't rushed to help him, to defend him. If he's guilty, I hope he gets what Senator Byrd suggested from the Senate Floor for people engaged in dogfighting. I hope he and Vick share similar fates, if he's found guilty.<BR/><BR/>The Duke lacrosse hoax has shown how bad things have gotten. This, and other cases. I still have a fair degree of hope, that there still is a better hope, and that perhaps the hope will begin with simple acts of kindness, like holding a door open and being civil, learning to smile and to actually mean it. <BR/><BR/>This lesson will certainly be lost on those trolls who post here, bent upon mayhem, calling names and inciting racial hatred. <BR/><BR/>We won't get there on the path the academic world is providing, for sure: there are way too many 88-ers, and too few KC Johnsons and Steven Horwitzs. <BR/><BR/>The way of Rodhead is the way of turmoil.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-77528970805439314592007-09-23T22:08:00.000-04:002007-09-23T22:08:00.000-04:00It's time to shake it up.It's too quiet and heavy....It's time to <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ2qk1zAX4Y" REL="nofollow">shake it up.</A><BR/><BR/>It's too quiet and heavy.<BR/><BR/>Let's get some action.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80139786615982314122007-09-23T21:40:00.000-04:002007-09-23T21:40:00.000-04:00TO RRH @ 9:02 PM--Very sadly, the Bowen-Chambers r...TO RRH @ 9:02 PM--<BR/><BR/>Very sadly, the Bowen-Chambers report makes Julius Chambers look like a blooming idiot.<BR/><BR/>And also, an extreme anti-white male racist.<BR/><BR/>For me, this is all very unfortunate.<BR/><BR/>He, like so many black <I>activists</I> have found it impossible to evolve with the times.<BR/><BR/>People like Chambers have been given so much largesse throughout their lives that if they can't plead some kind of "injury because of racism", they have no identity.<BR/><BR/>Chambers has constantly been overblown into something he is not.<BR/><BR/>Right before his prostate surgery, I had a long phone conversation with him. I had decided to do a column on him...relating it to the (at the time) Clinton years.<BR/><BR/>He was a total disappointment, intellectually.<BR/><BR/>So childish.<BR/><BR/>Harkening back to his segregationist childhood in such a way that was not what I had bargained for. So self-serving and infantile.<BR/><BR/>Some of these people we have been indoctrinated into revering are simply....simpletons....who were in the right place at the right time way back when.<BR/><BR/>And way back then, if you were a black activist, you were automatically elevated to deity status.<BR/><BR/>So much of society was so ignorant back then.<BR/><BR/>Now we see how dedicated people like Julius Chambers are to <I>justice</I>.<BR/><BR/>I understand why so many of these race-dependent people are angry now. They have been outed by the way they treated the lacrosse players...and no one is going to forget their real motives.<BR/><BR/>It's a good day for reality.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-32347626758333151742007-09-23T21:17:00.000-04:002007-09-23T21:17:00.000-04:00Debrah said... "Yesterday's N&O was filled with...Debrah said...<BR/><BR/> "Yesterday's N&O was filled with letters--well, about 4 or 5--which were mostly against the lacrosse players."<BR/><BR/>I wonderr how much each of those will be sorth to plaintiffs come penalty phase?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31428828964454129822007-09-23T21:02:00.000-04:002007-09-23T21:02:00.000-04:00The Sykes Report??? I hope everyone reads it. Th...The <A HREF="http://media.gatewaync.com/wsj/photos/2007/02/20/sykesreport_feb2007_www.pdf" REL="nofollow">Sykes Report???</A> I hope everyone reads it. The authors of the <A HREF="http://dukenews.duke.edu/mmedia/pdf/Bowen-ChambersReportFinal05-04-06.pdf" REL="nofollow">Bowens-Chambers report </A> certainly hope everyone will read the Sykes Report. Next to Sykes, Bowen-Chambers* looks superbly researched and balanced.<BR/><BR/>*Among other gems, Bowens-Chambers condemns the Duke police force for passing on information that CGM's story was not credible while calling Pres. Brodhead's "strong, consistent, and effective leadership".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-7868925745868686652007-09-23T20:17:00.000-04:002007-09-23T20:17:00.000-04:00Camille Paglia:" ...all faculty members should vow...Camille Paglia:<BR/>" ...all faculty members should vow, through their own scholarly idealism rather than by external coercion, not to impose their political or sexual ideology on impressionable students, who deserve better.” <BR/><BR/>Scholarly idealism. Hah. Those few like her or KC who possess any don't wind up at as liberal arts professors an "elite" institution.<BR/><BR/>As an outsider to academia, I say <B>bring on the coercion!</B>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-27174000460560344392007-09-23T20:13:00.000-04:002007-09-23T20:13:00.000-04:00Last week, in an interview with Boston’s public ra...<I>Last week, in an interview with Boston’s public radio station, Ashley was asked, given the repeated inaccuracies in his paper’s editorials, whether he feared a libel suit against the Herald-Sun.<BR/><BR/>His quite astonishing response? “That’s probably the sort of thing that’s best for me not to comment on, one way or the other, quite frankly.”</I><BR/><BR/>The only thing I find astonishing about it is that someone in Durham has the good sense to listen to their lawyer and not dig themselves in deeper. Compare to Nifong, Bell, Baker, Chalmers, Brodhead....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-65655529723207795172007-09-23T19:25:00.000-04:002007-09-23T19:25:00.000-04:00"Here's another fact: If you had courage and integ..."Here's another fact: If you had courage and integrity you would admit that you've claimed for months that "DNA exonerated Darryl Hunt" before adopting sub rosa my argument -- that the only thing "exonerating" Darryl Hunt is the word of a confessed killer."<BR/><BR/>And the fact that there is no evidence that suggests Hunt was involved in Sykes' rape or murder, as determined by the Sykes Administrative Review Committee Report. You have known that for months, of course, and yet you always tell people falsehoods and mistruths instead, like 'just because the DNA evidence showed that Hunt didn't do the rape didn't mean he didn't do the murder' or 'there was so much evidence linking Hunt to the murder that he wouldn't dare risk a real trial' -- both completely false. <BR/><BR/>On the whole, I'm rather glad that you judge me as lacking courage and integrity -- if you told me that I <I>did</I> possess whatever qualities <I>you</I> are calling by those names, I'd immediately go into a frenzy of self-examination, trying to figure out what I'm doing wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-39516816980148775712007-09-23T19:02:00.000-04:002007-09-23T19:02:00.000-04:00Anonymous 5:53 said... ...I maintain there is raci...Anonymous 5:53 said... <BR/><BR/>...I maintain there is racist code in this post:<BR/>...Why not just write it? Why resort to code? <BR/>::<BR/>Is this racist code your talking about related by birth to secret racism?<BR/><BR/>You entire comment was designed to slip in the phrase 'racist code' as if there is such a thing.<BR/><BR/>Attempting to frighten young people in the classroom by suggesting there is a 'racist code' in everyday conversation is just beyond the pale.<BR/><BR/>You are clearly running out of ammunition for your world view around race/gender/privilege. <BR/><BR/>And, be nice to debrah. She has a injured maximus or minimus... I forget. But she does.<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73937727333190321602007-09-23T18:48:00.000-04:002007-09-23T18:48:00.000-04:00anonymous at 6:08 said..."Here's the facts..." (si...<I>anonymous at 6:08 said...<BR/><BR/>"Here's the facts..." (sic)<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>No, here's the fact: 5:08 was a naked attempt at character assassination. <BR/><BR/>Your 6:08 post does at least contain some substance. Debrah can respond if she wants to. I have in the past agreed with her that the public reaction to the lacrosse hoax of most black people is, along with the OJ verdict, spittle on the faces of "white moderates".<BR/><BR/>Here's another fact: If you had courage and integrity you would admit that you've claimed for months that "DNA exonerated Darryl Hunt" before adopting <I>sub rosa</I> <B>my</B> argument -- that the only thing "exonerating" Darryl Hunt is the word of a confessed killer.<BR/><BR/>RRHAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82354975780774362512007-09-23T18:46:00.000-04:002007-09-23T18:46:00.000-04:00"You don't know who I am."Let's keep it that way, ...<I> "You don't know who I am."</I><BR/><BR/>Let's keep it that way, little yellow-belly.<BR/><BR/>Does it give a coward such as yourself a rush to flame in cyberspace anonymously?<BR/><BR/>Are you afraid to discuss such things unless you do it anonymously?<BR/><BR/>In the scheme of things....where significant events happen in this world.....someone like you is essentially worthless.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59781480580142287572007-09-23T18:32:00.001-04:002007-09-23T18:32:00.001-04:00"My senses tell me that you are the type of person...<I>"My senses tell me that you are the type of person out there we see everyday....who is not happy unless unearned accolades and overburdened praise are heaped on someone......<BR/><BR/>....simply because."</I><BR/><BR/>Then I guess your <I>senses</I> are more accurately described as your <I>wild guesses</I>. You don't know who I am. You don't know how many months I have been posting here on this blog, posting on the injustices perpetrated by Nifong, Levicy, Addison, Gottlieb, Lubiano, Baker, Farred, Wilson (Linwood <I>and</I> Duff), Murphy and Grace and Goslee, Meehan and Stephens -- just to give a <I>small</I> cross-section. You know nothing about me at all, save that I had the temerity to suggest that some people <I>on both sides</I> were stuck looking at things only from an "us vs. them" perspective.<BR/><BR/>Have you said anything which would indicate I was wrong? Hardly! On the contrary! When merely suggesting that there <I>is</I> an "us vs. them" mentality <I>causes you</I> to lump me in with the "them":<BR/><BR/><I>"Stop expecting a free ride for everything...especially when you also wish to send three innocent men to prison for 30 years."</I><BR/><BR/>... well, obviously, the only way in which I was wrong was to not describe the "either you <I>agree</I> that we're right 100%, or you're one of <I>them</I>!" pathology that's so frequently co-morbid with the basic "us vs. them" limitation on thought.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-76216780143154267812007-09-23T18:32:00.000-04:002007-09-23T18:32:00.000-04:00"If she's saying that the clinic will end up dispr...<I> "If she's saying that the clinic will end up disproportionately aiding minorities because minorities are disproportionately the victims of prosecutorial misconduct, what is her objection to that?"</I><BR/><BR/>Let me make it very clear so that even an agenda-filled deliberate flamer-with-a-liberal-cause can understand.<BR/><BR/>Minorities in this country commit an overwhelmingly higher percentage of the crime.<BR/><BR/>It would follow that since they are constantly being arrested for those destructive efforts, and consequently, going through the justice system....the new law clinic at Duke will overwhelmingly benefit them before anyone else.<BR/><BR/>It is not my concern. It is my statement of fact.<BR/><BR/>I just wish that Coleman and his colleagues had been as animated and openly excited back in the Spring of 2006.<BR/><BR/>Try as you might, you can't make a Superman out of someone who simply did what any decent person should have done.<BR/><BR/>And yes, Coleman is a fine, stand-up guy. I like him.<BR/><BR/>Now keep flailing....because it is <I>so</I> apparent that you have a cause.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-65647385836240321872007-09-23T18:30:00.000-04:002007-09-23T18:30:00.000-04:00"Time to grow up. People have grown tired of pacif..."Time to grow up. People have grown tired of pacifying career criminals and baby machines."<BR/><BR/>Wow, imagine what a better place the USA would be if more people thought like that. And voted...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79969767960552835632007-09-23T18:29:00.000-04:002007-09-23T18:29:00.000-04:00It is all about the groupthink. Troll, moron and i...It is all about the groupthink. Troll, moron and idiot are the words of group think. Obviously, they spend every waking moment on this blog. Anyone calling themselves the "diva" is as delusional as Crystal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-70028156469145834522007-09-23T18:24:00.000-04:002007-09-23T18:24:00.000-04:00Saw Stuart Tayor on Book TV today. Enjoyed it a lo...Saw Stuart Tayor on Book TV today. Enjoyed it a lot. Any news on the book and is it getting to stores?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-58407763395276208572007-09-23T18:08:00.000-04:002007-09-23T18:08:00.000-04:00RRH --Wow, not ten minutes and someone's already s...RRH --<BR/><BR/>Wow, not ten minutes and someone's already swooping in to enforce the groupthink. "Debrah's comments reminded him that some people act less wonderfully than they could! There is absolutely <I>no chance at all</I> that this is a question upon which we might profitably engage in some introspection, to see if this is a trap we have fallen into! No, we must dismiss it without discussion as a "personal and substanceless attack" and accuse the person who had the temerity to suggest it of being without "courage and integrity"!"<BR/><BR/>Here's the facts: Debrah suggested that "This new law clinic is designed mostly for minorities who are possibly falsely convicted." If she's saying that the clinic will end up disproportionately aiding minorities because minorities are disproportionately the victims of prosecutorial misconduct, what is her objection to that? If she's saying that the new clinic is designed to serve minorities in preference to non-minorites in equal need -- where is her evidence for that claim? Then she goes on to claim that if not for this focus-or-bias towards minorities, "there would not be so much enthusiasm ... from Coleman." Where is her evidence for <I>that</I> claim? Oh, yes, I know what she has submitted for evidence -- she has submitted her perceptions that the <I>first</I> Duke professor to speak up did so "late", and was too "tepid and circumspect" when he did. But even if those were objective facts and not subjective perceptions -- how can it be evidence for Debrah's <I>amazing</I> smear against Coleman, claiming the counterfactual that he would have <I>less</I> enthusiasm for this law clinic <I>if it benefitted everybody??</I><BR/><BR/>I don't think someone who has so often chosen to knowingly tell untruths about Darryl Hunt, deliberately omitting the fact that another man whose DNA matched that found on Deborah Sykes has confessed to the crime and said he acted alone, has much to tell anyone about "courage and integrity". Even if you were talking from a position of courage and integrity yourself, however, it really wouldn't change much -- trying to deny any possibility that a statement has truth by leveling personal attacks at the person who stated it is simply the <I>ad hominem</I> fallacy. No one needs to know who I am to decide whether <I>they</I> believe that some people have indeed fallen into this trap of thinking that "us vs. them" is the way it has to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6731209801105184252007-09-23T18:07:00.001-04:002007-09-23T18:07:00.001-04:00"1 or 2 groups subsidize the unproductive and dest...<I>"1 or 2 groups subsidize the unproductive and destructive masses"--whom are you referring to, Debrah? The former? latter?<BR/><BR/>"pacifying career criminals and baby machines"--are any of the G88 career criminals or baby machines? Are you referring to black people? Why not just write it? Why resort to code? We're all adults here.</I><BR/><BR/>**********************************************<BR/><BR/>Crystal Gail Mangum is exhibit A......and there are so many more like her.<BR/><BR/>You keep flailing. This time, I fear you have bitten off more than you can chew.<BR/><BR/>You are not dealing with a little inexperienced-with-the-brothas-and-sistas-invertebrate.<BR/><BR/>You had better put on your game face if you want to dance with the Diva on this topic.<BR/><BR/>I've got stellar cred.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.com