tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post6084143754085751991..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Assorted Deposition Itemskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger51125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4443211910613831062007-06-28T07:56:00.000-04:002007-06-28T07:56:00.000-04:00Mangum's fake fingernail was there "like it was a ...Mangum's fake fingernail was there "like it was a trophy"? How did Gottlieb come to that conclusion, I wonder. Was the fake fingernail mounted and hung on the wall? Was it on display in a glass case? The sheer absurdity of some of Gottlieb's statements in this case make me wonder how this man can function in everyday life, let alone have a career as a police "investigator." There are times when he seems so stupid that he clearly appears to be a danger to himself and others.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-18022250393460747662007-06-27T22:10:00.000-04:002007-06-27T22:10:00.000-04:00Christoph,How am I racist?Christoph,<BR/><BR/>How am I racist?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34940481730127817972007-06-27T21:44:00.000-04:002007-06-27T21:44:00.000-04:009:24 Your racism has already made you a dreadful p...9:24 Your racism has already made you a dreadful person.christophhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10524720617708987182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43722931029092694932007-06-27T21:34:00.000-04:002007-06-27T21:34:00.000-04:00mac 6:19 said... ...5:26...Nifong expected them to...mac 6:19 said... <BR/>...5:26<BR/>...Nifong expected them to plea, early in the game; they (the attorneys) insinuated/stated as much.<BR/><BR/>...Nifey (IMO) knew in short order that this wasn't going to be the case; his frustration began to show, and his comments about non-cooperation were mostly arising from that (again, IMO.)<BR/>::<BR/>Absolutely.<BR/><BR/>If it had not been for those defense attorneys this case would have been nearly a perfect frame. <BR/><BR/>The defense attorneys have written the model for future frames on or near a university campus.<BR/><BR/>I'm guessing that there were at least three groups at Duke; two groups at the AABlack University and two or three in Durham that were enabling this case to move forward.<BR/><BR/>It takes a village.<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-70448824419913566702007-06-27T21:24:00.000-04:002007-06-27T21:24:00.000-04:008:21pm is right. Bleach is the only thing that wou...8:21pm is right. Bleach is the only thing that would have worked. That's why the black thugs who committed a hate crime in Tennessee by raping and sodomizing and then killing a white couple, then stuffing them in a dumpster poured bleach down their throats. Both the guy and the girl were raped and oral sex was forced.<BR/>Can anybody imagine what would have happened if the race of victims/perpetrators had been reversed?<BR/>There was barely any news coverage just like the three riots, attacks, and murders during Juneteeth (black thug celebrations where fried chicken and watermelon are on the menu) were barely covered, even though attacks and murders took place.<BR/>Lord, how I am beginning to dread black people in general.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52785013999410971842007-06-27T21:22:00.000-04:002007-06-27T21:22:00.000-04:00I feel sorry for KC since Blogger won't allow him ...I feel sorry for KC since Blogger won't allow him to ban posters, cause some here surely deserved to be banned.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12989443101093721562007-06-27T21:06:00.000-04:002007-06-27T21:06:00.000-04:00Polanski, in case you haven't yet noticed, the DNA...Polanski, in case you haven't yet noticed, the DNA testing was VERY sensitive, and did NOT require ejaculation or any sperm at all -- the merest rubbing, or scraping, or indeed any touching at all, could leave the kind of "partial epithelial cell" that Shithead Meeker's tests detected.<BR/><BR/>That's how we KNOW that NO lacrosse player even laid a hand on The Whore.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6367263398610030822007-06-27T20:58:00.000-04:002007-06-27T20:58:00.000-04:00Thanks, ES.However, if the scenario was testicle s...Thanks, ES.<BR/><BR/>However, if the scenario was testicle sucking + masturbation, and, say, Collin exploded into his lacrosse stick, there wouldn't necessarily be any DNA on Mangum, or would Collin's testicle sweat be detected on Mangum's lips?<BR/><BR/>I know this is silly, but I'm trying to cover all the bases for Al, Jesse, Boyce and Wahneema.<BR/><BR/>PolanskiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-71187109552116463742007-06-27T20:24:00.000-04:002007-06-27T20:24:00.000-04:00Her fake nail "contained" a non-indited player's D...Her fake nail "contained" a non-indited player's DNA? What? Never heard that before. Who says?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51203959027791004182007-06-27T20:21:00.000-04:002007-06-27T20:21:00.000-04:007:19 You are correct, but the single-cell sensiti...7:19 You are correct, but the single-cell sensitivity is a fallacy...a good PCR test can SOMETIMES pick up single clean, purified copy of DNA...but not really a single cell in a single swab in most cases. I do this kind of work for a living...something of a PCR guru.<BR/><BR/>But you are correct in spirit...there are not less than many millions of the little wrigglers in a single shot and the stuff does tend to linger, and she DID test positive for other male DNA orally I believe.<BR/><BR/>Any no, Polanski...listerine might kill the cells but would leave the DNA intact and would not stop detection by PCR. Bleach is your only sure bet!<BR/><BR/>Sorry if this was more geeky that you wanted!<BR/><BR/>ES Trinity 1990Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31593034182947907242007-06-27T20:08:00.000-04:002007-06-27T20:08:00.000-04:00Lets talk about Santa Claus now. Santa may have l...Lets talk about Santa Claus now. Santa may have left his DNA when he came down the chimney, but maybe he didn't, maybe he was in the back seat of the police cruiser when Mangum was picked up going home from Lubianna's late night class. It's OK, I believe in Santa Claus and psychotic moments are the best. Evil is as good an explanation as any for what motivated these people, and sociopath is a good starting word.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-14644612117486979932007-06-27T20:03:00.000-04:002007-06-27T20:03:00.000-04:007:57Hard to say--NO!Polanski7:57<BR/><BR/>Hard to say--NO!<BR/><BR/>PolanskiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52578501176560799022007-06-27T19:57:00.000-04:002007-06-27T19:57:00.000-04:00If CGM was white would she have been arrested by n...If CGM was white would she have been arrested by now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-75601799055799710882007-06-27T19:45:00.000-04:002007-06-27T19:45:00.000-04:007:19I'm no DNA expert, but wouldn't gargling with ...7:19<BR/><BR/>I'm no DNA expert, but wouldn't gargling with Listerine kill all cells?<BR/><BR/>PolanskiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-5249510842689035792007-06-27T19:19:00.000-04:002007-06-27T19:19:00.000-04:00Oh for crying out loud.The Y-STR tests are so sens...Oh for crying out loud.<BR/>The Y-STR tests are so sensitive they can pick a single cell. Meehan's DNA was found. If Mangum had oral sex with any players, even if she "swallowed", Y-STR test would have picked that DNA.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78403254092682428012007-06-27T18:36:00.000-04:002007-06-27T18:36:00.000-04:00O,I'm just speculating; I'm not averring anything....O,<BR/><BR/>I'm just speculating; I'm not averring anything. But 5 minutes is enough time to ejaculate--and it's possible whoever ejaculated in a handkerchief--or she swallowed everything like a good whore.<BR/><BR/>The point I was making was simply that "whatever" happened still makes CDR victims and CGM a lying whore. <BR/><BR/>PolanskiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52113492079603284442007-06-27T18:22:00.000-04:002007-06-27T18:22:00.000-04:00P,Are you kidding?!?!? There is not one shred of e...P,<BR/>Are you kidding?!?!? There is not one shred of evidence anything happened, and certainly not any sex of any kind. Oral sex would have involved DNA transfer, too, and we all know very well that there was not a single spec of LAX DNA found anywhere on the person of Ms. Mangum. Thank, God. If there had been oral sex with a LAX player, there would have been a DNA match, and the LAX player probably would be in the middle of a trial by now, whether the act was consensual or not. <BR/><BR/>ObserverAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-85049279218064645302007-06-27T18:19:00.000-04:002007-06-27T18:19:00.000-04:005:26Nifong expected them to plea, early in the gam...5:26<BR/>Nifong expected them to plea, <BR/>early in the game; they (the attorneys) -<BR/>insinuated/stated as much.<BR/><BR/>Nifey (IMO) knew in short order<BR/>that this wasn't going to be the<BR/>case; his frustration began to <BR/>show, and his comments about non-<BR/>cooperation were mostly arising<BR/>from that (again, IMO.)machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4030269795422292142007-06-27T17:39:00.000-04:002007-06-27T17:39:00.000-04:00If CGM is not going to be charged, she should at l...If CGM is not going to be charged, she should at least be locked up in a 'One flew over the Cuckcoo's Nest' institution!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72154044992439133362007-06-27T17:26:00.000-04:002007-06-27T17:26:00.000-04:00How did he think he was going to get a plea on som...How did he think he was going to get a plea on something? The lawyers said they won't plea. Please, even Nifong had to know he was not going to get any pleas out of this one.<BR/>Yes, maybe some poor person woud plea even if they are innocent, but not the Duke players.<BR/>You don't think Nifong would recognize that? I don't think he ever expected them to plea. Certainly there are no reports of any plea negotiation ever going on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-13765900634241034522007-06-27T17:23:00.000-04:002007-06-27T17:23:00.000-04:00After all the negative publicity in NC and for its...After all the negative publicity in NC and for its justice system, I think that at least the 3 amigos will get what the deserve. There does not seem to be any sympathy in high places for them. The lynch mob that came after the INNOCENT can still wave their lassos, but they will have no standing in these hearings. <BR/><BR/>The rest of us have to stay alert, because they will continue to spred their poison in college campuses from coast to coast. <BR/><BR/>We have not won the war, but at least we have won this battle.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79901095303683277452007-06-27T17:21:00.001-04:002007-06-27T17:21:00.001-04:00Considering all the CSI shows on nowadays, wouldn'...Considering all the CSI shows on nowadays, wouldn't the fact the captains didn't bother to sanitize the house be proof that they didn't have anything to hide? I would think that by now everybody knows that if you commit a sexual crime, you have to get rid of the evidence and leave the place spotless, so how could any criminal overlook a fake fingernail?<BR/><BR/>Finally, can you imagine Gottlieb starring in CSI Duh-rham?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87509405979602208732007-06-27T17:21:00.000-04:002007-06-27T17:21:00.000-04:005:08re "something could have happened"I've had fun...5:08<BR/><BR/>re "something could have happened"<BR/><BR/>I've had fun with this concept before. I need to be blunt, so don't accuse me of being a racist.<BR/><BR/>Forget who might have been in the bathroom with Mangum. Let's suppose some horny lacrosse player(s) was in bathroom with Mangum. What could have credibly happened?<BR/><BR/>There is only 1 thing I can think of: someone paid extra for a blow job. This woman is a whore, so it's not outrageous to speculate that some horny guy wanted to have an orgasm--even with someone as unattractive as Mangum (after all, there is precedent for this behavior--remember Hugh Grant and his in-vehicle BJ?).<BR/><BR/>On the other hand, it's not credible that any coercion was used. No evidence exists to support that theory.<BR/><BR/>So, if someone makes the argument that "something" might have transpired that night, think about for-hire serious cock sucking or testicle munching. There is no tertium quid.<BR/><BR/>PolanskiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52868706759027336572007-06-27T17:20:00.000-04:002007-06-27T17:20:00.000-04:00I have been in True Crime forums for ten years, an...I have been in True Crime forums for ten years, and have observed women on several occasions making crazy accusations of men and every single time they get away with it--scott free. For instance, in 2001 a woman named Nancy Krebs appeared before DA Alex Hunter, claiming she had been raped and molested by John Ramsey and his best friend Fleet White--and claimed to have real information on the murder of Jonbenet Ramsey. Her claims were completely idiotic and fantastic--and yet DA Hunter, at first, went public, calling her "highly credible."<BR/><BR/>Years later, after being completely discredited, Krebs and her supporters still maintain that she wasn't lying--and people who investigated her crazy accusations gave her a free pass because they found out she had tried to insert herself into a variety of high profile cases, and couldn't keep her story straight. She never paid for her vicious accusations, she just played the crazy card and moved on.<BR/><BR/>God only knows what life she's freely ruining today. I really think a man would have been prosecuted<BR/><BR/>BobCAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50890524978523626412007-06-27T17:19:00.001-04:002007-06-27T17:19:00.001-04:00Absolutely he thought he'd get them to cop to misd...Absolutely he thought he'd get them to cop to misdemeanor boob-grabbing or something. Anything was win for himAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com