tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post7200959262201695986..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: The CCI: Summer 2006kcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-91691695577274588242009-06-17T09:14:59.939-04:002009-06-17T09:14:59.939-04:00TO Jim Peterson--
I do wish you could have a conv...TO Jim Peterson--<br /><br />I do wish you could have a conversation with Stuart Taylor.<br /><br />You overstate a few things.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-76671295650246114962009-06-16T17:21:52.245-04:002009-06-16T17:21:52.245-04:00As a parent of a member of the 2006 team, Coach K ...As a parent of a member of the 2006 team, Coach K spoke after it was safe, directly after the notes were published from the 15 December 2006 hearing. You may recall, the hearing revealed the complete results of the DNA testing, showing there was no evidence of any Duke student having ANY CONTACT with the accusor!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-25662988162727704402009-06-16T15:21:36.469-04:002009-06-16T15:21:36.469-04:00re: Moral courage
Many years ago I was taking a ...re: Moral courage<br /><br />Many years ago I was taking a "leadership" class with a very junior bunch of Army officers. The instructor was a grizzled, very senior and highly decorated Non Commissioned Officer, with much combat experience.<br /><br />In theory, each of us very junior officers outranked the senior NCO.<br /><br />In practice, we did not. Had we tried to assert our "authority" we would have been standing in front of the Regimental Commander pronto.<br /><br />The first question we were asked in the leadership class was, "What do soldiers want most to see in their leaders?"<br /><br />Our class responded with answers like, "professional competence", "willingness to work", "fairness", etc.<br /><br />We got it wrong. The answer was, "moral courage".<br /><br />Why? As we were told in some remarkably forceful language, supported by real world examples from someone who had been there when it really counted, "because it is so rare".<br /><br />Duke is not so different from any other large institution. There are heroes, but not many. There are rogues, but not many. There is a large unwashed middle which is apolitical, or at least cautious.<br /><br />In retrospect, we now are able to sort out the heroes, from the rogues, from the indifferent.<br /><br />Select faculty and admin members branded themselves as rogues by their behavior. They simply chose to be rogues.<br /><br />Coach K, among many others, was not a hero. It is hard to be a hero, & he was not one of them.<br /><br />In retrospect, we now have to marvel at the moral courage of Prof Jim Coleman. He knew the culture. He also knew what was right.<br /><br />His sense of right prevailed, at an important time, over the culture. This was true moral courage.<br /><br />Character may be defined as "what you do when no one is looking".<br /><br />Moral courage is even more difficult. It is doing what is right when doing right carries important risks to you.<br /><br />Very few anywhere will ever display moral courage. It is too rare.<br /><br />Jim PetersonJim in San Diegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07032079086884503680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-23138862225917433852009-06-14T22:42:24.701-04:002009-06-14T22:42:24.701-04:00Bill,
Your recollection is similar to what Nader ...Bill,<br /><br />Your recollection is similar to what Nader Baydoun reports Coach K said on Bob Costas' show (pp. 226-227). Coach K holds the title of Special Assistant, and he offered his services in that capacity but was turned down. Mr. Baydoun also commends Coach K for using the word "we" when he said, "People felt we left the kids unsupported." Apparently Coach K spoke out first in June of 2006. His interview with Costas took place in March of 2007 and he was critical of the G88. I am not taking a position here, just summarizing what Mr. Baydoun wrote.<br /><br />ChrisChris Halkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-40756987661316401172009-06-14T20:40:35.982-04:002009-06-14T20:40:35.982-04:00"All he would have done is add another target..."All he would have done is add another target for the anti-lax to attack."<br /><br />And would have proven by his action that:<br /><br />-- he believes in justice.<br />-- he has a backbone.<br />-- he helps innocent student/athletes during a horrific nightmare.<br />-- he supports the parents living through the nightmare.<br /> -- he supports his (supposed) friend, Pressler and his abused family.<br />-- he is able to rally others to support justice.<br />-- he takes a stand against a media frenzy.<br />-- he isn't afraid of bullies, and actually understands more about higher education than just how to coach basketball.<br /><br /><br />Duke ProfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-31389169079545480942009-06-14T16:07:12.935-04:002009-06-14T16:07:12.935-04:00"All he would have done is add another target...<i>"All he would have done is add another target for the anti-lax to attack."</i><br />***********************<br /><br />Of course many of the Gang of 88 and a few of their mascots like Orin Starn who put such an effort into trashing college sports would have screamed loudly for a while.......<br /><br />......however, if Mike Krzyzewski had taken a serious role in helping achieve fairness for some fellow members of the Duke athletics department as well as making sure that Brodhead step back and take a close look at the harm being done and assure him that he (Coach K) would be behind him all the way if he stood up to the radical faculty.......<br /><br />......it could have changed everything.<br /><br />But you know the real reason he didn't?<br /><br />Coach K had a dose of fear himself.<br /><br />He didn't want to take the risk of turning off even one potential black recruit or perhaps alienating some current Duke players who were black.<br /><br />I totally believe that.<br /><br />The black community knows these things very well.<br /><br />Even as they "poor mouth" constantly and complain, they know they can use the race issue like a platinum credit card with people in power.....<br /><br />.......if those people have no real-life experience on such issues and are as nervous and tentative as Brodhead.<br /><br />Everyone knows it's true. <br /><br />That's why I say that the only people who need to evolve a bit more are the ones who are still pretending that we're back in the mid-20th century.<br /><br />Coach K kept quiet because he's also a coward.<br /><br />He wasn't sure how things would turn out in the end and he wanted to be viewed as staying on "the right side".<br /><br />The PC side.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-14770312173974698872009-06-14T15:24:18.741-04:002009-06-14T15:24:18.741-04:00While Coach K has a lot of respect in Durham, some...While Coach K has a lot of respect in Durham, somehow I doubt that had he spoken up early, the case would have turned out differently. More likely, he would have been subject to huge amounts of abuse in the press and among some of the Duke faculty.<br /><br />Now, had he spoken up early and then have been proven right, he would have even more credibility now. It would have turned out good for him, but he will have to live with his early silence.<br /><br />From what I remember, he did offer his services to Brodhead, and Brodhead turned him down. (I guess Brodhead preferred people like Houston Baker, Wahneema Lubiano, William Chafe, and Karla Holloway.)<br /><br />Furthermore, Nifong wanted to win an election, and the only way to do it was to push ahead with the charges. And don't forget the shameful NAACP actions. Durham's leadership wanted this case, and now they have the lawsuit.William L. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802990642236807359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-86171128503123258122009-06-14T14:11:44.871-04:002009-06-14T14:11:44.871-04:00Peter Wood is apparently among an inordinate numbe...<a href="http://fds.duke.edu/db/aas/history/faculty/pwood" rel="nofollow">Peter Wood</a> is apparently among an inordinate number of the Duke faculty who have taken up residence in the pristine little town of Hillsborough.<br /><br />Wonder why they don't choose to live in Durham?<br /><br />Even Holloway doesn't choose to live in Durham.<br /><br />Also, I might be out of touch....so someone might need to help me on this one.<br /><br />Is growing gourds a most unusual hobby to anyone but me?Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-29725952171470170462009-06-14T13:48:49.486-04:002009-06-14T13:48:49.486-04:00The "Truth Minsta" of Durham, Paul Scott...The "Truth Minsta" of Durham, Paul Scott, explains on his blog in an earlier post the <a href="http://nowarningshotsfired.blogspot.com/2008/04/crisis-of-nigga-intellectual-how.html" rel="nofollow">thug intellectual</a> issue.<br /><br />Some might find the rest of the blog, <a href="http://nowarningshotsfired.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">No Warning Shots Fired!</a> informative.<br /><br />A flavor of Durham that is most definitely a pervasive one.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-40498895596734993182009-06-14T13:42:58.753-04:002009-06-14T13:42:58.753-04:00For the commentator who wrote that people have a &...For the commentator who wrote that people have a "more fantasy than reality" view of the hypothetical involvement of Coach K in the Lax Hoax, it seems that your words are more fantasy than reality. In the comments above, posters have said that Coach K could have asked everyone to slow down or that he could have talked to a couple of sports writers. <br /><br />The only commentators who claimed Coach K might have actually had any effect on the Hoax suggested that a couple of sports writers might have seen the light. Or, that a word with Brodhead might have made a "difference." Hardly the reaction to a "King." <br /><br />To say that everyone here expected Coach K to be "a 'king' to step in and set things right early on" is a bit of a strawman. <br /><br />There is no disputing that he is the "face of Duke University." For me, there is no disputing my disappointment that he didn't say anything after it became apparent the students were innocent (waiting until it was too late). I also believe that there is no disputing that a brave public word from Coach K would have helped and not hurt. I personally think it would have taken more than a word from Coach K to Brodhead to make a "real difference," perhaps a very public threat to leave or the like. There was no other threat that would have sufficiently counter-balanced Brodhead's fear of the radical professors.<br /><br />It can be disputed whether he can give lectures on leadership after his showing in the fiasco. Coach K is obviously an exceptional leader on the hardcourt. The way he can get 18-year-old kids to play defense is a true marvel, and he manages it every year. But, he did drop the ball on lacrosse.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24970536929809403192009-06-14T12:42:35.299-04:002009-06-14T12:42:35.299-04:00No, I don't think the radical professors are s...No, I don't think the radical professors are satisfied with their little fiefdom. But as the ultimate failure of the CCI demonstrated, there are very clear "limits" at Duke beyond which, at least at the present time, the radical professors pass at their own risk (as Houston Baker and others found out). Will these battle lines hold? Who knows? But there are a number of factors which argue against the radicals storming the Winter Palace. Division 1 athletics is one factor. Perhaps more importantly, Duke students as a group are extremely apolitical..... frankly, they've got more important issues to worry about than activism, like getting into grad school and partying.......... they "just don't get it" to quote Baker/Chambers. Could this passivity be a breeding ground for further radical entrenchment? Perhaps............ on the other hand, over time the "activist fringe" may well become increasingly irrelevant, given the sharp changes in attitudes among today's college students compared to those of a generation or 2 ago. Time will tell............Duke 1965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-16260624356343935802009-06-14T11:34:47.521-04:002009-06-14T11:34:47.521-04:00re: coach K
It is easy to take cheap shots now pa...re: coach K<br /><br />It is easy to take cheap shots now particularly when you imply that he is a man of great personal power that can influence large numbers of people by simply raising his hand. <br /><br />I don't think that is the case. His power is within a narrow scope and does not extend into the academic circles where many of the poor decisions were being made at Duke. On those issues Broadhead could brush him aside with the nearest flick of a finger. <br /><br /> He would also have no ability to change the view of the Nancy Grace's of the msm. All he would have done is add another target for the anti-lax to attack. And it would have been a high value target at that. Everyone would pile on and just make things worse for all involved.<br /><br />We all wish there would have been a "king" to step in and set things right early on. But this is just part of ournatural reaction to bad events. It is more fantasy than reality.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43660982108151724542009-06-14T05:01:18.121-04:002009-06-14T05:01:18.121-04:00"Coach K has a very powerful, independent pow..."Coach K has a very powerful, independent power base at Duke. It's one thing to take on a niche, non-revenue sport like lacrosse, but basketball at Duke is an entirely different matter. The CCI attack on athletics was one of the reasons the CCI ultimately failed."<br /><br />I agree with this completely, but not the the rest of the picture painted by Duke 1965. The Group of 88 has gone on record to say that they intend to infiltrate the real sciences, and as Prof. Anderson has noted, they are on all the major committees on campus. As Gary Packwood wrote, the Group of 88 are tied at the waist to the Office of Student Affairs. Finally, even Duke 1965 subsequently acknowledged that other professors on campus were silenced by the 88.<br /><br />To think they are satisfied with their little fiefdom, after reading about the minutes from some of these CCI meetings, is to ignore reality. They sought control of admissions, curriculum, extra-curricular activities, faculty hirings (the need for “a particular initiative regarding a racially diverse faculty and administration”), and the conduct of students (through the student code of conduct).<br /><br />What exactly would have been left? Do you think they've surrendered suddenly?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15429501048252476762009-06-13T23:27:38.827-04:002009-06-13T23:27:38.827-04:00Re: Coach K.
There comes a time when a person is...Re: Coach K.<br /><br />There comes a time when a person is called upon to stand up and be counted when those around him would prefer that he not. The lacrosse case was such a time for Coach K. The fact that this very public "face of Duke University" chose to sit on his arse when his best friend was getting the shaft by ther common employer and when the fellow athletes of his very own players were being hounded and accused by the Durham and the university community of unspeakable crimes demonstrates that he is unqualified to speak at all on the subject of leadership.<br /><br />cksAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4160572648797676462009-06-13T19:03:15.791-04:002009-06-13T19:03:15.791-04:00At least some colleges get into trouble for lying ...At least some colleges get into trouble for lying in a student handbook:<br /><br />NY post is reporting that local college was fined $20,000 for lying in a student handbook.<br /><br />http://www.nypost.com/seven/06132009/news/regionalnews/20g_slap_for_rape_college_174043.htm<br /><br />"In mandated federal reports, Dominican reported one forcible sex crime in 2005, two in 2006 and one in 2007. But the data in students' annual handbook differed from those reports, Cuomo said.<br /><br />His office issued a letter yesterday to all colleges reminding them that state law requires full reporting of campus crime statistics."jamil husseinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-59141104088071553852009-06-13T18:19:30.433-04:002009-06-13T18:19:30.433-04:00As for Tim Tyson, the "spirit of the lynch mo...As for Tim Tyson, the "spirit of the lynch mob" is alive and well with some members of the Duke faculty. The lacrosse players and their families are way too classy to be involved with lynch mobs, but apparently the "sophisticated" faculty members at Duke and their "rent-a-protesters" fit right in.<br /><br />Durham and Scottsboro deserve each other.William L. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802990642236807359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50836579033633667352009-06-13T18:18:00.301-04:002009-06-13T18:18:00.301-04:00Lest we think that the G88 are toothless at Duke, ...Lest we think that the G88 are toothless at Duke, keep in mind that they either control or are on all of the important university committees. There will be people in the future denied tenure and promotion because the G88 does not think them hard left enough. <br /><br />It also is clear that Brodhead, if not one in spirit with these faux scholars, nonetheless kowtows to them. I have two children who are very good students, are very intelligent, and who have the "proper" ethnicity characteristics to make them the kind of students that the G88 would want on campus. You can be assured that neither of them will go to Duke University. <br /><br />Any place that will abuse its students the way that Duke did is not worthy of receiving one penny.William L. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802990642236807359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-70093931777770128312009-06-13T15:01:30.980-04:002009-06-13T15:01:30.980-04:00OMG!
It's just been brought to my attention t...OMG!<br /><br />It's just been brought to my attention that <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/melody-ivins/13/8aa/261" rel="nofollow">this woman</a> who has been childishly defending Timothy Tyson's behavior in the Lacrosse Hoax works for him!<br /><br />LOL!!!<br /><br />This is so pathetic.<br /><br />Does her religious employer know what a <i>sinner</i> poor Melody is?<br /><br />How she stalks and tries to leave nasty comments on YouTube videos in the wee hours of the morning?<br /><br />I think this might call for a <i>cleansing of her sins</i>.<br /><br />She will most definitely have to <i>repent</i>.<br /><br /><i>The spirit of the lynch mob</i> lived in Melody that night on the YouTube channel as she was going after the righteous Diva.<br /><br />LOL!!!Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-69277350623693395272009-06-13T14:52:48.140-04:002009-06-13T14:52:48.140-04:00"......he no longer has authority to publish ...<i>"......he no longer has authority to publish broad-based books on leadership. When it got hot he chose to remain silent."</i><br />*************<br /><br />Very astute and a great point.<br /><br />He's an enigma in so many ways. Or perhaps that's just the way college sports programs operate.<br /><br />So often Krzyzewski can be seen and heard using the most obscene language on the sidelines.....and then goes out and gives speeches on leadership and being respectful.<br /><br />I don't really care how many four-letter words he uses. Just don't try to present another picture when the situation warrants.<br /><br />His team witnesses his behavior all the time.<br /><br />I just despise to see people try to play it both ways and wax perfection as they wallow in the gutter.<br /><br />Pick one!<br /><br /><br /><i>"Coach K is the face of Duke."</i><br />*************<br /><br />To an enormous degree, this is most definitely the case.<br /><br />Everyone who runs Duke caters to Mike Krzyzewski simply because of the success of his basketball team.<br /><br />One word from him to Brodhead would have made all the difference. <br /><br />Brodhead needed a spine when he was making all those inept decisions and Krzyzewski could have easily provided one and also the courage needed to put a halt to the train wreck.<br /><br />Wonder how Mike Pressler <i>really</i> feels about his friend?Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3246295456601280272009-06-13T13:36:51.467-04:002009-06-13T13:36:51.467-04:00Just my 2 cents...my child was a sophomore when th...Just my 2 cents...my child was a sophomore when the LAX affair began. We had many conversations about the events and the professors. <br /><br />My perception was that there was a lot of support for RCD on campus though there was a vocal minority with a political agenda.<br /><br />She took classes with many of the 88 and according to her nobody really believed all the manure being shoveled out by these pseudo-intellectuals. <br /><br />Really made me feel good at $40K per year!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-91841284226169338732009-06-13T12:05:20.909-04:002009-06-13T12:05:20.909-04:00Inre: "Coach K didn't stand up for the ki...Inre: "Coach K didn't stand up for the kids. A crisis shows the true fiber of an individual. Coach K has lost my respect.He's a coward"<br /><br />Any standing Coach K had on "Leadership" went flying out the window based upon his inaction. <br /><br />One may argue that it was not his fight. Maybe so. However he no longer has authority to publish broad-based books on leadership, When it got hot he chose to remain silent.<br /><br />Others may suggest he was pulling strings behind the curtain. If so he hasn't had any impact and abdicated his very public reach. <br /><br />Coach K is the face of Duke. The fact that he did nothing when a reasoned voice was needed remains deplorable. All he had to do was ask everyone to slow down.<br /><br />He could have and could still make a difference. He chooses not to.<br /><br />The acts and omissions of the neo-Marxists within Duke and Durham are very, very predictable. The inaction by Coach K remains a very big downside surprise.<br /><br />Ironically he could learn some lessons from the women's lacrosse coach and team.No justice, no peacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73512548137080571402009-06-13T11:35:29.941-04:002009-06-13T11:35:29.941-04:00More goofy effulgences from harmony boy.More <a href="http://reharmonized.an-earful.com/2009/05/peculiar-inadequacy-of-english/#comments" rel="nofollow">goofy effulgences</a> from <i>harmony boy</i>.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-9933998552764542992009-06-13T10:07:50.901-04:002009-06-13T10:07:50.901-04:00DN:
Very true, and Coach K lost a lot of respect ...DN:<br /><br />Very true, and Coach K lost a lot of respect with many people for his silence, particularly after the hoax became obvious. And regardless of K's influence, there's no question that the radical profs have managed to intimidate and stifle dissenting opinions from the vast majority of the Duke faculty and administration. I've seen a lot of nasty office politics over the years, but it's nothing compared to the Duke academic infighting....... I'm thinking of writing a book entitled, "Mugged by a Radical" :)Duke 1965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57567332682151159882009-06-13T09:48:24.591-04:002009-06-13T09:48:24.591-04:00Sports writers must have been waiting for a hint f...Sports writers must have been waiting for a hint from Coach K about the lax case. He could have given them that hint, off the record, and let them know it was a fraud.<br /><br />Instead, his silence may have suggested to them the likelihood that there was substance to the charges--if so, he did nothing to dispel those conclusions.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-83521551097801213902009-06-13T09:29:33.188-04:002009-06-13T09:29:33.188-04:00To Michael: Coach K didn't stand up for the ki...To Michael: Coach K didn't stand up for the kids. A crisis shows the true fiber of an individual. Coach K has lost my respect.He's a coward!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com