tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post7572114385720709062..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: New Revelations from the Civil Suitskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3455018062914397472008-02-29T16:41:00.000-05:002008-02-29T16:41:00.000-05:00colleges and universities take FERPA very seriousl...<I>colleges and universities take FERPA very seriously. Universities might ignore media criticism, or even alumni criticism, but they live in (justified) terror of federal inquiries.</I><BR/><BR/>Unless of course they have connections in the DOJ and are therefore immune from Federal accountability....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82275487747774628732008-02-27T20:46:00.000-05:002008-02-27T20:46:00.000-05:00"'She's the prof upon whose door last fall was fou..."'She's the prof upon whose door last fall was found a four-foot noose; the discovery sparked a national uproar, and the case remains unresolved.'<BR/><BR/>Se faked the noose incident"<BR/><BR/>An awful lot of people made themselves look foolish during the Duke case by jumping to conclusions about who did what. In many cases they justified this by pointing to something else the suspects had done, or allegedly done, and assuming that to have done one bad thing was to be guilty of any bad thing that anyone happened to suspect them of.<BR/><BR/>Let's not become that which we oppose.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46373846740277946942008-02-26T21:57:00.000-05:002008-02-26T21:57:00.000-05:00Wrong reference.See, "Houston, you have a problem"...Wrong reference.<BR/><BR/>See, "Houston, you have a problem", on Liestoppers.<BR/><BR/>Jim PetersonJim in San Diegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07032079086884503680noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-89606440231994497132008-02-26T18:11:00.000-05:002008-02-26T18:11:00.000-05:00"I wonder if the deletion of such evidence might b..."I wonder if the deletion of such evidence might be considered obstruction of justice"<BR/><BR/>Yes. It is called obstruction of justice, as you said, and it is a very big deal (much worse than anything Duke actually did or did not do). Given the IQ level at Duke, I'm pretty sure Gang88/Duke admin have been busy deleting emails.<BR/><BR/>In Discovery phase, it is typical that only the user PC's are searched. If something interesting turns out somewhere, then full search (e.g. server backups) will be searched. Here, Duke (and DPD)may have destroyed the backups as well.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53185593870726020702008-02-26T11:01:00.000-05:002008-02-26T11:01:00.000-05:00What Broadhead wrote:"I have canceled the men’s la...What Broadhead wrote:<BR/><BR/>"I have canceled the men’s lacrosse season and all associated activities, effective immediately. Lacrosse Coach Mike Pressler has submitted his resignation to Athletics Director Joe Alleva, effective immediately."<BR/><BR/>What he should have written:<BR/><BR/>I have canceled the G88's courses and all related activities, effective immediately. Holloway and the other instigators have submitted their resignations to Provost Lange, effective immediately."<BR/><BR/>Duke ProfAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41366256984518539272008-02-26T10:52:00.000-05:002008-02-26T10:52:00.000-05:00Does anyone know if Duke has hired an outside PR c...Does anyone know if Duke has hired an outside PR consulting firm to help in its defense? If so, when was it hired and who are they? Are any of Duke's tactics and statements made to date indicative of a professionally managed message?<BR/><BR/>Finally, does the law serve ham, eggs and grits with those pancakes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68632111094937537422008-02-26T09:43:00.000-05:002008-02-26T09:43:00.000-05:00For months Brodhead was the face of evil at Duke i...For months Brodhead was the face of evil at Duke in the lacrosse case. After reading some of the lawsuits allegations, Brodhead pales in comparison to Steel.If the BOT have an ounce of honesty left they will replace Steel immediately.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-8808098982376381112008-02-26T06:56:00.000-05:002008-02-26T06:56:00.000-05:00Emails can be deleted...but you don't know who has...Emails can be deleted...but you don't know who has them, who they might've been forwarded to, and if they're incriminatory and have an alternate existence on someone else's computer, somewhere?<BR/><BR/>I wonder if the deletion of such evidence might be considered obstruction of justice, evidence tampering, maybe something else? <BR/><BR/>Besides, deleting an email doesn't neccessarily remove it from the hard drive. To do that, you basically have to smash the hard drive with a hammer, or put it under an MRI.<BR/><BR/>As someone has already said: hiding evidence is often worse than the evidence itself. (See Rosemary Woods/Richard Nixon/17 minutes of blank tape.)machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-88604324179108162742008-02-26T02:07:00.000-05:002008-02-26T02:07:00.000-05:00"Now, plagiarism is a firing offense at Morningsid..."Now, plagiarism is a firing offense at Morningside Heights, right?<BR/><BR/>Amazingly, no. .."<BR/><BR/>Hey, isn't affirmative action still <I>the Law</I>?<BR/><BR/>JPAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80257690219100650772008-02-26T01:51:00.000-05:002008-02-26T01:51:00.000-05:00JLS says...,1. Two sides to a pancake is only true...JLS says...,<BR/><BR/>1. Two sides to a pancake is only true if the pancake is poured onto the griddle. Duke is not going to allow either side of this pancake to be seen.<BR/><BR/>2. So the person that posted about the families not settling for just money is correct. A full accounting is needed. That probably won't happen, but some people at Duke must pay as a warning to others. The Dean of students will likely be offered up. I wonder if that is enough?<BR/><BR/>3. The interesting thing will be if Duke will fold before or after depositions start and are posted on the web? All it will take is one deposition for Duke to start to understand the implications of what they will be quized about. I would guess discovery of e-mail will take place before depositions and when Duke reviews what they must disclose in the e-mails, the start offering heads as well as money.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-27115395521433248702008-02-26T00:07:00.000-05:002008-02-26T00:07:00.000-05:00Anonymous said 2:32... ...Well, there may be two s...Anonymous said 2:32... <BR/><BR/>...Well, there may be two sides to every pancake, but once the terabyte of Duke faculty, staff, and administrator emails hits the fan, one of those sides is going to be looking pretty gross.<BR/>::<BR/>Absolutely, and rather than divide up the standard pancake for analysis, attorneys are going to find the Duke side of the pancake has grown exponentially.<BR/><BR/>Rather than fight over pieces of the pancake it is always best to first grow the pancake.<BR/><BR/>Syrup requirements will become legend before this is over. <BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-54296970389986118862008-02-25T21:18:00.000-05:002008-02-25T21:18:00.000-05:00Re: Campus Rape MythHeather Mac Donald has written...Re: Campus Rape Myth<BR/>Heather Mac Donald has written a good article about the campus rape myth. It seems to me the whole “Take Back the Night’ rally at Duke during the crisis, was based on a hoax as well. <BR/><BR/>I still firmly believe if the situation required the end to the Lacrosse season, surely the feminists should have defused the situation as well. Instead they invited in outsiders and more hostility into a known tense atmosphere.<BR/><BR/> That is more than a double standard, it is stupid. Hopefully, college students will start to question the real purpose of the anger studies programs. <BR/><BR/>I found this sentence especially interesting: <BR/>“While [women’s studies professors bang pots] and blow whistles at antirape rallies, in the dorm next door, freshman counselors and deans pass out tips for better orgasms and the use of sex toys.” Also, this description, “dour antimale feminism” <BR/>------------------------------<BR/>City Journal<BR/>Heather Mac Donald<BR/><BR/>Excerpts:<BR/>The Campus Rape Myth <BR/>The reality: bogus statistics, feminist victimology, and university-approved sex toys<BR/><BR/>It’s a lonely job, working the phones at a college rape crisis center. Day after day, you wait for the casualties to show up from the alleged campus rape epidemic—but no one calls.<BR/><BR/>Campuses do everything they can to get their numbers of reported and adjudicated sexual assaults up—adding new categories of lesser offenses, lowering the burden of proof, and devising hearing procedures that will elicit more assault charges. <BR/><BR/><BR/>The academic bureaucracy is roomy enough to sponsor both the [dour antimale feminism] of the college rape movement and the [promiscuous hookup culture of student life.]<BR/><BR/>The only thing that doesn’t fit into the university’s new commitments is [serious scholarly purpose.] <BR/>(http://city-journal.org/2008/18_1_campus_rape.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53976440779803333592008-02-25T19:57:00.000-05:002008-02-25T19:57:00.000-05:00Any chance Duke/Durham will learn something from D...Any chance Duke/Durham will learn something from D.C? (see article dated Feb. 22, 2008)<BR/><BR/>Title: <BR/>Family to End Litigation Over Journalist's Death -- Improvements in Care Cited at News Conference<BR/>>>>><BR/>“The family of a slain journalist, whose death exposed problems with the District's emergency medical care, said yesterday that the city has made significant improvements over the past year. <BR/><BR/>“David E. Rosenbaum's relatives, who agreed last year to forgo a lawsuit against the D.C. government as long as reforms were made, said they were satisfied with the city's efforts so far and that they will END THE LITIGATION.” [emphasis added]<BR/>. . .<BR/>“The Rosenbaum family initially sued the District government for as much as $20 million in damages. Last March, the city agreed to set up a task force on emergency medical services, and a member of the Rosenbaum family served on the panel. At the time, the family said the suit would be dropped if changes were made within a year.<BR/><BR/>Yesterday, family members said the District has improved quality assurance, training and supervision in the Department of Fire and Emergency Medical Services. Additional efforts -- to CHANGE THE CULTURE OF THE DEPARTMENT so that firefighters and medics are treated and paid equally -- are still needed, Marcus Rosenbaum said, but family members think those improvements will come. [emphasis added]<BR/><BR/>"We will keep an eye on progress and point out where we think it is lacking," he said. <BR/><BR/>[DC Mayor] Fenty declared, "A lot of lessons have been learned." <BR/><BR/>Somehow, I don’t think people in NC will pay any attention.<BR/><<<<<BR/><BR/>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/21/AR2008022101401.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43867543634501690602008-02-25T19:44:00.000-05:002008-02-25T19:44:00.000-05:00For the people who “just don’t get it,” who think ...For the people who “just don’t get it,” who think “it’s all about the money,” please take a look at what the International Centre for the Settlement of Investment Disputes (ICSID) did in a recent case (the website is available by subscription only)<BR/><BR/>22 Feb. 2008, Global Arbitration Review<BR/><BR/>Title: Moral damages award sparks debate<BR/><BR/>Quote from article<BR/><BR/>>>>On 6 February, a tribunal . . . ordered the Republic of Yemen to pay Omani construction company Desert Line Projects total damages of US$24 million. The tribunal found that Yemen had "maliciously" obstructed the enforcement of a domestic arbitration award in Desert Line's favour. As well as material compensation, the award included US$1 million 'MORAL DAMAGES' [emphasis added]- which the tribunal said was "more than symbolic".<BR/><BR/>Moral damages, to compensate for harm to reputation or distress, have been awarded before - but rarely at ICSID. . .<BR/><BR/>According to the tribunal, the "physical duress" used by the government officials "affected the physical health of the claimant's executives and the claimant's credit and reputation." . . .<BR/><BR/>Says . . . a specialist on damages in investment treaty claims: "The award references the duress exerted on the claimant's executives and its effects on their physical health, but it ultimately seems to rely on loss of reputation to the claimant as the basis for the moral damages portion of the award. The reference to "malice" on the part of the State seems to suggest a punitive element, but the tribunal has clearly put this in the "moral" damages category."<BR/><BR/><<<<<BR/><BR/>Obviously, even an international tribunal gets it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-37576550677679442192008-02-25T19:30:00.000-05:002008-02-25T19:30:00.000-05:00Gang88 is active at Columbia U:http://www.nypost.c...Gang88 is active at Columbia U:<BR/>http://www.nypost.com/seven/02252008/postopinion/editorials/contemptible_columbia_99155.htm<BR/><BR/><I>February 25, 2008 -- Teachers College claims to be independent of Columbia University - but when it comes to moral cowardice, it's hard to tell them apart.<BR/> To wit, Teachers College revealed last week that an 18-month investigation has determined that Professor Madonna Constantine had lifted the work of a colleague and several students.<BR/><BR/>Now, plagiarism is a firing offense at Morningside Heights, right?<BR/><BR/>Amazingly, no. ..<BR/>If her name seems familiar, it should. She's the prof upon whose door last fall was found a four-foot noose; the discovery sparked a national uproar, and the case remains unresolved.</I><BR/><BR/>Se faked the noose incident and plagiarized material from other people so standard Gang88 behavior, and naturally it is racist to accuse her. These people make me sick.<BR/><BR/>I know Universities are controlled by ultra-liberal wackos but it is still interesting to see the moral bankrupt of these once great institutions. Basically, they are nothing more than racist hate-mongering 4th tier institutions, main purpose of existence is to push ultra-liberal racist agenda.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-67907098014280566542008-02-25T18:39:00.000-05:002008-02-25T18:39:00.000-05:00Don't expect to get everything in discovery. The m...Don't expect to get everything in discovery. The most damaging emails have probably been deleted. <BR/><BR/>Also, I am not sure I like the precedent of opening up private conversations to public observation. There has to be a place for frank and confidential discussions.<BR/><BR/>That being said, the lawsuit is important because it is clear that Duke still feels protecting the gang of 88 and their agenda is more important than taking an honest look at what happened and why. <BR/><BR/>It appears that it is easier to face losing millions in legal fees and damages than having to tell the gang of 88 that they were way out of line. They are more afraid of some crackpot professors than they are of losing a lawsuit.<BR/><BR/>This is a small example of how deeply rooted the PC insanity is in even our most elite universities.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-23003770914790550492008-02-25T18:09:00.000-05:002008-02-25T18:09:00.000-05:00To 10:04am:While I agree with you that the Plantif...To 10:04am:<BR/><BR/>While I agree with you that the Plantiff's pleading was more than a notice, it appears that the plantiff's are trying to force Duke to settle by strongly hinting at what the next phase of the process will look like for Duke. I suspect that there are a lot of folks in the administration and the BOT that would like this whole affair to go away and would be willing to pay dearly out of their $6B endowment. The plantiff's may or may not prevail, however it is apparent that they will make this case very embarrasing for Duke if and when it proceeds the discovery phase.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49144471488391133222008-02-25T18:04:00.000-05:002008-02-25T18:04:00.000-05:00Lawsuits are bar fights. The plaintiffs have brok...Lawsuits are bar fights. The plaintiffs have broken the bottle. Now we will see how the defendants respond. The plaintiffs attorneys are serious people and have chosen a high risk, high visibility strategy to litigate. Duke will have to reply in kind. If they get to discovery, the stakes for Duke will skyrocket. Keeping all of the defendants coordinated with common interests under common defense will be a nightmare. <BR/>Notice that as the case has dragged on that the city executive and the chairman of the board of trustees have gotten their name in the public eye more and more. They are not happy about the exposure and are dreading the discovery process. <BR/>Steel was very willing to throw anyone under the bus to protect Duke as an institution. Now it's his time. Maybe they need to cut their losses and blame Steel.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-10330639102296096052008-02-25T18:02:00.000-05:002008-02-25T18:02:00.000-05:00The more of this that comes out the angrier I get....The more of this that comes out the angrier I get. I teach at a much less prestigious university than Duke, and we have had our own problems (including one very bad one), but at least we seem to have owned up to our mistakes and shortcomings.<BR/><BR/>If *any* of the above charges are true, there should be a general housecleaning that leaves the BoT, the top couple of levels of the administration, and at least 87 professors out of jobs.<BR/><BR/>These disgusting people will probably never (in this world) pay the full price of their conduct, but I hope Duke shells out big time (although I'd settle for shelling out some and owning up big time [not my choice since I'm not a LAX player]).<BR/><BR/>As for the H/S,why should anyone expect those ignorant, bigoted bozos to recognize reality at this late date? They are a blot on the idea of marriage between cousins.JorgXMcKiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07509568525555189690noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-55418650291535444102008-02-25T15:51:00.000-05:002008-02-25T15:51:00.000-05:00The HS commentary that Debrah posted proves why th...The HS commentary that Debrah posted proves why the case needs to go forward, and some major remedy is needed: when the HS talks about the "pattern of behavior" of the team, they are engaged in the perpetual libel of which we speak.<BR/><BR/>Which pattern do they refer to?<BR/>The collective GPA and graduation rate of the Lacrosse team, which was exemplary? The volunteerism, which was extraordinary? The fact that the young men did exactly the same thing - (hiring strippers) - that Coach K's young men did? And other athletic teams, as well? These "patterns of behavior?" <BR/><BR/>Or is the HS referring to somethig more general, something very common to the larger student body? Underage drinking, frequent hookups, loud noise. Why are the student athletes being singled out?<BR/><BR/>Maybe because the predjudice against them is now so ingrained, that it has become part of the common mythology.<BR/><BR/>I only wish the SH=HS crowd could be sued for promulgating and perpetuating the myth. The proof is in their own words.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-34850566452742253252008-02-25T15:03:00.000-05:002008-02-25T15:03:00.000-05:00Response from the public editor of the NYTimes abo...Response from the <A HREF="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/opinion/24pubed.html?_r=1&ref=opinion&oref=slogin" REL="nofollow">public editor</A> of the NYTimes about the McCain fiasco.<BR/><BR/>Did he do the same type of critique on their coverage of the lacrosse case?<BR/><BR/>I don't recall.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-69992091576942458132008-02-25T14:44:00.000-05:002008-02-25T14:44:00.000-05:00The H-S editorial still doesn't get it, does it?Th...The H-S editorial still doesn't get it, does it?<BR/><BR/>They still think it is about the Lacrosse Players.<BR/><BR/>It isn't.<BR/><BR/>It is about the failure of leadership in all ranks of responsibility in Duke and Durham.<BR/><BR/>What does this writer mean that Brohead had the right to cancel the players' season in the "light of the teams behavior". What behavior does he mean? Why didn't they cancel ALL the althlete's seasons, in the "light of THEIR behavior". <BR/><BR/>What behavior does the writer mean?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20889792356861496012008-02-25T14:32:00.000-05:002008-02-25T14:32:00.000-05:00Well, there may be two sides to every pancake, but...Well, there may be two sides to every pancake, but once the terabyte of Duke faculty, staff, and administrator emails hits the fan, one of those sides is going to be looking pretty gross.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35888932689950588252008-02-25T13:47:00.000-05:002008-02-25T13:47:00.000-05:00This is explosive.If, indeed, this case began as j...This is explosive.<BR/><BR/>If, indeed, this case began as just an alleged robbery and disagreement between Mangum and Kim Roberts, then this is worse that we all thought.<BR/><BR/>The DPD--Gottlieb, in particular--jumped at the chance to concoct something once he found out that the stripper party was in Trinity Park, where he and the DPD had long overstepped and singled out the lacrosse players for a long time.<BR/><BR/>At the request of the slimey Trinity Park residents.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-74908779689488122922008-02-25T10:49:00.000-05:002008-02-25T10:49:00.000-05:00"The consequences of the revelations from discover..."The consequences of the revelations from discovery process will be devastating for the school and any attempt at raising funds from alumni later."<BR/><BR/>I think some perspective is in order...... most of the "revelations" have already been published, I suspect..... I doubt that discovery will be heavily published by the media. Whether you agree with it or not, Duke has already "moved on" in the minds of most people, especially the people who matter to Duke. From Duke's perspective, it's already over, and wishing otherwise will change nothing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com