tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post8222603149543460723..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Update: Resounding Vote for Status Quokcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger136125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-44732064918447336102007-11-12T13:50:00.000-05:002007-11-12T13:50:00.000-05:001:44I agree that DC is better - now that Hizzoner ...1:44<BR/>I agree that DC is better - now that Hizzoner is not able to run his 3rd World Dog'n Pony Show.<BR/><BR/>I seem top remember the times his administration hired convicted felons for the Dee Cee Pee Dee.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49985665316098952882007-11-12T01:54:00.000-05:002007-11-12T01:54:00.000-05:00Lunatics - Wow - What an argument. Morons, stupid...Lunatics - Wow - What an argument. Morons, stupid and idiots is also helpful in making a point.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-25815820582127400882007-11-12T01:44:00.000-05:002007-11-12T01:44:00.000-05:00Hey Mac - free advice is worth nothing. The City i...Hey Mac - free advice is worth nothing. The City is beautiful - Even for the poor folk, it costs a lot of money to live there -not a blue collar city at all. BTW, many of us from the City call the ex-mayor Marian. Visit the City and you will be thrilled with its beauty. BTW, I am white and voted for Marian (as did a lot of others) every election he was in for Mayor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-64950568556160852902007-11-12T01:37:00.000-05:002007-11-12T01:37:00.000-05:00Well 12:52AM - I do not know what you know about t...Well 12:52AM - I do not know what you know about the DC but it is a great place to live - highly educated people and the culture scene can not be beat. Those of us who lived there for numerous years can see beyond Marion's "Crack" charge. I would have like him to have had a " If it can happen to me, it can happen to anyone." Unfortunately, that did not occur. With so many white Americans helping to destroy the country with their own drug use, criticzing Marion is a joke.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-24054641628100149922007-11-12T00:52:00.000-05:002007-11-12T00:52:00.000-05:00"Marian was a big factor in turning the City aroun..."Marian was a big factor in turning the City around from a ghetto to the beautiful, great City, it is today."<BR/><BR/>My God, the lunatics have attacked the forum...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-60888717883425513112007-11-11T23:02:00.000-05:002007-11-11T23:02:00.000-05:00The 3:43 said:I think this situation had the poten...The 3:43 said:<BR/><I>I think this situation had the potential to really blow up into disaster in terms of our city -- i.e. riots, etc. -- I've lived through a few of those too. So something did go right here in the way everyone kept their cool. Frankly, during the early days of the scandal, our city stayed pretty much under control and the tensions dissipated fairly quickly. I think this says volumes about the quality of this city because we had outside agitators in here stirring people up and yet things remained calm. These are the kinds of things I look at when evaluating my city. </I><BR/><BR/>You might be feeling really good about the fact that your city didn't riot--but I can't hand you a gold star on the collar for doing what civilized people do. <BR/><BR/>That is, they don't riot when they don't like what is going on in their city.<BR/><BR/>That you use this as some sort of metric by which to measure the success of your city's government and citizenry only tells me how far your city has truly fallen, and that Durham is not far removed from a 3rd world cesspool where uncivilized behavior is the norm.<BR/><BR/>Civilized people don't riot. They can't be agitated into rioting. <BR/><BR/>Civilized people don't even **consider** going out into the streets of their community and burning down the property, homes and businesses of their neighbors--simply because they're upset about a rape. Especially one that never happened.<BR/><BR/>Think about that for a minute. <BR/><BR/>You are actually PROUD that riots didn't take place in Durham--as if that is some kind of badge of courage. I agree with you there--it certainly does speak volumes about Durham, outside agitators or not. Unfortunately, none of what it says is positive.<BR/><BR/>I would be more proud to live in a place where riots were never even considered in the first place.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps one day you'll understand this simple truth yourself.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15793375613125813002007-11-11T17:32:00.000-05:002007-11-11T17:32:00.000-05:00Anon 1:55Aside from your misspelling of Marion Bar...Anon 1:55<BR/><BR/>Aside from your misspelling of Marion Barry's name (it's MariOn, not MariAn, which you misspelled twice, so it's obviously not a typo) you just don't know what you're talking about. Maybe you lived there, just like the denizens of Duhh live in the City of Duhh who still they don't know their craniums from their ischiums. You can live there and still be a Duhh. Apparently, you can live in Dee Cee and be a Duhh. <BR/><BR/>Even the Washington post - no conservative rag - had nothing nice to say about the Barry administration, and encouraged the Feds to take financial control over it. I used to read it regularly, so stop trying to Bob Ashley your way into having us believe that Dee Cee was improved by "Hizzoner." (BTW, Tony Kornheiser was relentless, and chillingly accurate.)<BR/><BR/>DC doesn't get snow? Yeah, and "it don't rain in Indianapolis in the summer time, God didn't make little green apples..." <BR/><BR/>They didn't use what snow removal equipment they had - (just like the Ray Nagin Memorial Motor Pool, where nearly a thousand unused buses sat, NOT taking anyone to higher ground, "leaking diesel and motor oil into the already toxic water.")<BR/><BR/>Anyone who thinks Barry was a great leader probably was a beneficiary of one of his budget-busting grand schemes while the schools couldn't open on time because of the roof leaks.<BR/><BR/>And you're probably one of those of the "something happened" crowd, too. A bit of advice: don't let anyone talk you out of your straight-jacket. And don't trade your medications for recreational drugs. They don't have the same effect.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-32087456446726977482007-11-11T15:11:00.000-05:002007-11-11T15:11:00.000-05:00To the pro-reparations crowd: I hope you enjoy you...To the pro-reparations crowd: I hope you enjoy your payout, which includes the following items, among others: re-election of morons to city government; imposing psychic costs on those of us who believe in truth, justice and the culture of achievement, not entitlement; and the satisfaction of precipitating a financial windfall for three deserving fellows from Duke. You will notice that none of these reparations involve payouts to your designated victimized group, but they are reparations all the same.<BR/><BR/>Enjoy!<BR/><BR/>GodefroidAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-71413590160406102962007-11-11T13:55:00.000-05:002007-11-11T13:55:00.000-05:00Like Durham, guess you had to have lived there to ...Like Durham, guess you had to have lived there to know the City and its real history and what really goes on there. I thought Gd made the snow - not Marian. DC is of the "let the sun shine" school of snow removal - because we get so little of it. The folk in the City do not mind at all because it is an extra day or two off. Marian was a big factor in turning the City around from a ghetto to the beautiful, great City, it is today.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-50594097998035310232007-11-11T12:55:00.000-05:002007-11-11T12:55:00.000-05:0010:26Yeah, Barry got the city stuck in the snow.An...10:26<BR/>Yeah, Barry got the city stuck in the snow.<BR/>And the city's schools' roofs leaked.<BR/>And the schools paid more per-student than any place but Chicago, and were easily outperformed by the state with one of the lowest expenditures per-student: Utah.<BR/><BR/>And the City of Dee Cee was put under congressional oversight.<BR/><BR/>Other than that, and many other things too numerous to mention, Marion Barry did a fine job.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73871578465611358062007-11-11T11:51:00.000-05:002007-11-11T11:51:00.000-05:00If Marion Barry had been Mayor, at the time, Jack ...If Marion Barry had been Mayor, at the time, Jack Kent Cooke would never have taken the Skins to MD. Marion understood business and could "Make a deal" with anyone. Great satisfaction on Snyder erradicating Cooke's name on the firty yard line. Brodhead and Steel will be remembered with the ame disdain forever in the history books of this event. That is better than public stocks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33090146150076315512007-11-11T10:26:00.000-05:002007-11-11T10:26:00.000-05:003:43AM Like your post. Durham does not appear to ...3:43AM Like your post. Durham does not appear to be a bad place, although my only NC experience was "stuck in Duck" for a week. I do have relatives in the mountains and Heath Schuler is their Representative. I was a resident of the District for thirty years at Dupont Circle. People forget that Marian Barry did a lot for the city and helped bring it back to life. Good luck to you folks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49566698612836194142007-11-11T09:28:00.000-05:002007-11-11T09:28:00.000-05:003:43 and MACPlease see this AM entry under "Update...3:43 and MAC<BR/><BR/>Please see this AM entry under "Update"<BR/><BR/>dslAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-2558879816150160592007-11-11T09:27:00.000-05:002007-11-11T09:27:00.000-05:003:43 AM and MacPlease see this morning's entry on ...3:43 AM and Mac<BR/><BR/>Please see this morning's entry on the "Update" segment.<BR/><BR/>dslAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51939677277898802012007-11-11T07:19:00.000-05:002007-11-11T07:19:00.000-05:003:43 amNice points.Now tell us more about the Dee ...3:43 am<BR/><BR/>Nice points.<BR/><BR/>Now tell us more about the Dee Pee Dee, could you? You seem to have a good handle on things. How could the City of Duhh find itself sued over and over again for violating the rights of its citizens, and still do nothing? How do you explain the persistent prostitution, and the lack of enforcement? How about your disaster-of-a-City Manager, Baker? How do you explain the Chalmers Report? <BR/><BR/>How about the persistent number of persons who continue to believe - with regard to the hoax -that "something happened?" <BR/><BR/>Is it not the culture that permeates the City of Duhh that allows gossip and grapevines to trump reality and integrity and fairness, and so much so that your editor, Mr. Bob Ashley, is a stack short of a few pancakes? Papers, after all, tend to represent the readers.<BR/><BR/>And if that's the case, the Hurled Scum and the Dee Pee Dee are more representative of your city than your eloquent defense. Those are but a few examples.<BR/><BR/>You sound like a reasonable person: you might consider gathering your things in a hurry and beating an alacritous path to civilization.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-81481300252824918842007-11-11T03:43:00.000-05:002007-11-11T03:43:00.000-05:00I have lived in Durham for 15 years. I really lik...I have lived in Durham for 15 years. I really like the place and have felt safe here. I am highly educated (my degrees are not from any of the universities in this state.) I am really saddened to see all of the hatred and disrespect towards the people of Durham on this site. We had an election here and people voted. This city is not a one issue city and the voting reflected that. I have no idea who voted to keep Nifong last year -- they obviously did not see what was in my opinion one of the best campaign signs I have ever seen -- one word -- NOFONG! I am disgusted by what happened in the Duke lacrosse case. However, I voted for people who I thought would continue the very significant advances we have made in this city in the past 5-7 years. Mayor Bell is not Ray Nagin nor is he Marion Barry and I resent the comparisons on these boards. I am orignially from the D.C. area and lived through the several terms of Marion Barry -- there is no comparison. The divisivness, racial issues, class issues, corruption, etc. highlighted so dramatically by the Duke scandal are the product of longstanding conflict within a very diverse and integrated city. I think this situation had the potential to really blow up into disaster in terms of our city -- i.e. riots, etc. -- I've lived through a few of those too. So something did go right here in the way everyone kept their cool. Frankly, during the early days of the scandal, our city stayed pretty much under control and the tensions dissipated fairly quickly. I think this says volumes about the quality of this city because we had outside agitators in here stirring people up and yet things remained calm. These are the kinds of things I look at when evaluating my city. I am not trying to minimize our problems. I am trying to highlight that Durham is a very complex city and as a city we did ok through all of this. People seem to love to trash our city but we are on the rise here. I believe we are far more integrated than most other cities nearby which means we have more challenges but more rewards too. You're not going to have scandals like the ones in Durham in Chapel Hill or Cary which are primarily white and mostly middle to upper class. We run the range in Durham and I've always thought that was a good thing. I can say nothing in defense of the scandal. I have no problem with people's feelings about it. I do take offense at being called stupid for voting for candidates who 1) have mostly helped this city and 2) were more qualified to serve than their opponents. Mayor Bell has a masters degree in electrical engineering from New York University. I mention this only because it surprised/impressed me when I was researching him. Perhaps that's not pertinent to his governance but it sure speaks to intellect. I guess my point is -- if you live here and want to trash our city, go right ahead. If you do not live here, consider that we have a whole city here to consider -- our election cannot just be about the lacrosse case and we're not stupid to realize that. We're going to be sued regardless and electing a new less qualified more divisive mayor and city council would not have changed that. But it could have potentially derailed the many good things that are going on in our city. By the way, the official election site says the voter turnout was 24.61%. This by the way was far higher than most other elections in this state this year. It would be very nice if more people voted here and everywhere in this nation. I'm thankful for the many that did.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73212034948945972982007-11-10T12:24:00.000-05:002007-11-10T12:24:00.000-05:00Mac,In Larry Niven's "known Space" series,a centra...Mac,<BR/>In Larry Niven's "known Space" series,a central character(Louis Wu) remarks,"Stupidity can be a capital crime."<BR/> I think the Durhamites are committing suicide withtheeir re election.<BR/> corwinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-90582934272544887012007-11-10T07:03:00.000-05:002007-11-10T07:03:00.000-05:00BTW,I'm not inviting anyone to torch the town of D...BTW,<BR/>I'm not inviting anyone to torch the town of Duhh: it'll likely happen as a Duhh-ed-down-version of Ms. O'Leary's cow, with someone's misplaced crack pipe.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-33467492728039862662007-11-10T06:40:00.000-05:002007-11-10T06:40:00.000-05:00How many days of water does the City of Duhh have ...How many days of water does the City of Duhh have left?<BR/><BR/>Elijah may be in our midst.<BR/><BR/>The low water-level in Duhh and it's treatment of the stranger in its midst reminds me of the Kelo vs. City of New London, Connecticut decision by what I call the Jezebel Court. Naboth's image was found in 7 homeowners, and Jezebel's likeness was found in one Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, who ought to have known better than to steal Ahab Naboth's vineyard after dispossessing Naboth. The only difference is that the 7 homeowners are probably still alive.<BR/><BR/>Duhh is going down: <BR/>It has a history of evil, from the original restrictions on the sale of property (see the Kistin Butler reference in the Update thread) to the overt racism expressed by its current owners, who are mirrors of the original racists who ran the show.<BR/><BR/>Its sins rub against each other, as in Bradbury's story "The Great Fire" - (if memory serves me correctly)- and the sin itself will ignite the spark. And there will be no water to put it out.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-88086199023030452092007-11-09T16:03:00.000-05:002007-11-09T16:03:00.000-05:00Whatever happened to Cousin Jackie?Whatever happened to Cousin Jackie?Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-77789927051556935232007-11-09T13:50:00.000-05:002007-11-09T13:50:00.000-05:00TO 12:03 PM-- LIS! :>)TO 12:49 PM--I couldn't ag...TO 12:03 PM-- LIS! <B>:>)</B><BR/><BR/><BR/>TO 12:49 PM--I couldn't agree more.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-2037080998330673082007-11-09T12:59:00.000-05:002007-11-09T12:59:00.000-05:00anon @11/09 9:38 AM wrote:Oh yeah, as for the hard...anon @11/09 9:38 AM wrote:<BR/><BR/><I>Oh yeah, as for the hard rain that's going to fall - bring it on - this drought is the worst one on record.</I><BR/><BR/>If the whole place dries up and blows away, that works, too. Whatever moves folks off the dime.<BR/><BR/>daveAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-68284809130326154502007-11-09T12:49:00.000-05:002007-11-09T12:49:00.000-05:00I can not imagine anyone voting for Elizabeth Dole...I can not imagine anyone voting for Elizabeth Dole or John Edwards under any circumstances. What is the surprise now that she is a party hack? She was never doing anything to put herself on record in this case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48914424069875123662007-11-09T12:03:00.000-05:002007-11-09T12:03:00.000-05:00Deborah,WATCH OUT!!! You might even convert me t...Deborah,<BR/><BR/>WATCH OUT!!! You might even convert me to a Divah fan!!<BR/><BR/>Absolutely timely and well-put.<BR/><BR/>Thanks!<BR/><BR/>dslAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15732311588441653882007-11-09T11:25:00.001-05:002007-11-09T11:25:00.001-05:00"How about a WHOLE LOT of us who are feeling prett...<I>"How about a WHOLE LOT of us who are feeling pretty disenfranchised and no place to go?"</I><BR/><BR/>The key is not to become aligned with either political party.<BR/><BR/>I always go for the individual candidate and the issues. Not party affiliation.<BR/><BR/>There are people on these fora who show up and sneak in their hatred for George Bush and the administration.<BR/><BR/>I try to counter with facts, but it's another election cycle, so ideology trumps everything.<BR/><BR/>The poor Liberals have to go back--if they want to be taken seriously--and relive the Clinton administration. Forget about the chubby intern. Look at the criminality and the corruption tolerated by those people.<BR/><BR/>When Clinton came into office he fired ALL of the sitting U.S attorneys because they didn't share his politics. No one said a thing.<BR/><BR/>I might suggest to anyone who shows up here thrashing about and expressing distaste for the current administration, please do all of us a favor first.<BR/><BR/>Find Sandy Berger. Tell him to take his pants off.<BR/><BR/>You know.....the ones in which he hid many Clinton documents so the public would not see how corrupt those anemic 8 years really were...and how internationally incompetent they were.<BR/><BR/>Then we can talk about the subject of corruption you post here simply because you know that it will be approved....while retorts most often will not.<BR/><BR/>If anyone wishes for <I>Wonderland</I> to fade away......just start using this forum as it has been used of late.<BR/><BR/>I would suggest to all in the academy to take a good long trip through Europe--outside of the universities that perpetuate anti-American sentiments--and you will experience first-hand from the people there that this country is in no way diminished.<BR/><BR/>Real people love America and no pro-Islamic rhetoric will ever change that fact.<BR/><BR/>We have only to view the massive numbers of people who risk everything to get here.<BR/><BR/>I've frankly had it with this kind of bashing.....as they enjoy the very fruits of this country.Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.com