tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post8764632714615406640..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: New Evidence from Karen R. Long?kcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4887816177441821112014-04-22T01:25:16.141-04:002014-04-22T01:25:16.141-04:00To say "look what they did to rich kids"...To say "look what they did to rich kids" misses the point. <br /><br />The Duke Lacrosse players were prosecuted BECAUSE they were perceived as "rich white kids." They were The Great White Defendant(s) Nifong needed to win an election and the media needed for their preferred narrative.<br /><br />Had Mangum charged three black Duke basketball players with the same (lack of) evidence, the case would have been promptly dismissed. Nifong would have made a big show in public of proclaiming how fair he is to falsely accused black athletes. <br /><br />Trial JunkieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-47817217142061068002014-04-21T23:41:32.091-04:002014-04-21T23:41:32.091-04:00p.s. I am in complete agreement with your last sen...p.s. I am in complete agreement with your last sentence.Chris Halkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41211836572429828272014-04-21T23:40:25.319-04:002014-04-21T23:40:25.319-04:00Greg, Check out Cohan's interview in Cosmopoli...Greg, Check out Cohan's interview in Cosmopolitan. He is a little less oblique there.Chris Halkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79101874182846049032014-04-21T23:03:27.251-04:002014-04-21T23:03:27.251-04:00Again, after reading the book, I certainly felt no...Again, after reading the book, I certainly felt no love for Nifong, and could render him no generous impulse except the inevitably contemptuous one of pity. I certainly understood that he believed "something happened in the bathroom that night", how else could he live with himself? I didn't get the impression Cohen shared that viewpoint. It is understandable that much of the press blurred the incident into the case being a reflection of all kinds of social ills, rather than a horrible travesty of injustice. You remember a time when the Press really strode up to the bar and took responsibility for their errors? If Cohen is going on talk shows and suggesting the Duke players were probably guilty of something in that room, I'd really be surprised. What's disheartening about this case and the O.J. Simposn fiasco is that people think this is somehow representative of business as usual, and larger fore headed right wingers will pretend the case is the be all and end all representation of time. A sounder take is: if the system was arrogant enough to abuse these rich kinds is this fashion, just think what they are apt to do to defendants with no means to fight back. Greghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09288008924419574934noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6354997751463105622014-04-21T20:56:00.608-04:002014-04-21T20:56:00.608-04:00The review is indeed in the print edition of The E...The review is indeed in the print edition of The Economist. I saw it about a week ago.Chris Halkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-20170581768910310972014-04-21T19:21:54.624-04:002014-04-21T19:21:54.624-04:00The only good thing to be said about the Economist...The only good thing to be said about the Economist review is that, so far, it has not appeared in the print edition, which means that perhaps someone there has good editorial judgment.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-81934921125957123762014-04-21T17:36:02.194-04:002014-04-21T17:36:02.194-04:00The bottom line is that Mike Nifong is a pathologi...The bottom line is that Mike Nifong is a pathological liar and, frankly, a psychopath. Remember people saying that even before the LAX case, he would just go off on someone with no cause?<br /><br />Nifong will say anything and do anything that he thinks will benefit Mike Nifong at that time. He is narcissistic, a psychopath, and a pathological liar. But other than that, I guess Cohan is right: Nifong is an "honorable" man.William L. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802990642236807359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-26708444829547472762014-04-21T16:33:52.938-04:002014-04-21T16:33:52.938-04:00I saw the book at Barnes and Noble today and looke...I saw the book at Barnes and Noble today and looked at a few passages. <br />One thing I noticed that no one else has seemed to mention is Cohan's apparent acceptance of Nifong's theory of why Cooper said the accused were innocent. At the press conference many people noticed that Cooper was pale and did not appear completely healthy. Cooper or a member of his staff said that the day before he had become so severely dehydrated that he requited medical care. <br />Nifong has decided that the problem was not dehydration but a heart attack or stroke. It isn't clear to me whether Nifong thought the doctors had made a mistake or he thought it was normal to release someone from the hospital the same day they suffered a heart attack or stroke. Nifong said that Cooper's physical condition affected his mental ability, and if he had been in full possession of his faculties, he would never have said the players were innocent.<br />I'm not surprised that Nifong would come up with a theory like that, but I'm flabbergasted that Cohan thought it was worth printingBlacksburgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-11702009635861645622014-04-21T13:29:25.261-04:002014-04-21T13:29:25.261-04:00"First, statistically, the chance of randomly..."First, statistically, the chance of randomly selecting anindividual from the population that could be included in this sample would be approximately 1 in 1000." This statment can be found on p. 12 of the summary of conclusions. I am not certain how these numbers were obtained, but I suspect that the probability results from the autosomal testing were multiplied with the probability results from the Y-chromosomal testing. IIRC one textbook advocates this procedure when one has both kinds of information. Mr. Cohan does not know much about DNA statistics (and I do not claim to be an expert), or he might have seized upon this number.<br /><br />However the Y-chromosomal tests also indicated* that there were two more contributors to the fake fingernails. IMO the prosecution must come up with a reasonable explanation for all of the DNA, not just some. I have previously suggested secondary transfer from saliva or mucous in the trashcan, and that remains plausible IMO. However, primary/secondary transfer from the players themselves should also be considered.<br /><br />Suzanna Ryan wrote, "One study performed by Lowe, et al, was designed to highlight a "worst case" scenario and involved two individuals. The first was determined to be a poor shedder and the second a good shedder. These two shook hands for one minute. The poor shedder had washed their hands immediately prior to the experiment whereas the good shedder had not. After shaking hands the poor shedder held a sterile plastic tube for 10 seconds. The tube was then swabbed and tested for the presence of DNA. This experiment was performed on two sets of good shedder/poor shedder pairs. Surprisingly, in one of the pairs, only the good shedder's DNA was obtained from the plastic tube, with no evidence of a mixture including the poor shedder!"<br /><br />Suppose that David Evans shook hands with Ms. Mangum when she arrived. That might explain the results. Any number of other events, such has handling money or shaking hands with another player, might also transfer DNA.<br /><br />*analysis of DNA mixtures is prone to interpretational problems, including subjectivity. I am simply relying upon the information provided in the DNA chapter in "Race to Injustice."Chris Halkideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14933976220776524122noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51678411892548543412014-04-21T12:38:59.547-04:002014-04-21T12:38:59.547-04:00At least Stuart Taylor's review was in The New...At least Stuart Taylor's review was in The New Republic, a generally liberal-oriented publication. So maybe a few people from that side of the street will see the glaring faults of the Cohan opus. It almost like if Nifong said it, it must be true. Still depressing after all these years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-10204479843896128692014-04-21T12:18:41.214-04:002014-04-21T12:18:41.214-04:00Hi KC,
Have you and Stuart Taylor had a chance to...Hi KC,<br /><br />Have you and Stuart Taylor had a chance to watch Brian Lamb's very recent interview with William Cohan.<br />It aired Sunday night on CSPAN, Q&A.<br /><br />You can probably find the archive on YouTube or on the Video Library section of the CSPAN website.<br /><br />Definitely worth viewing. Stuff just doesn't add up about Cohan's approach. He is way too deferential to the disgraced Nifong.<br /><br />GTnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35397767359197871492014-04-21T12:09:18.012-04:002014-04-21T12:09:18.012-04:00Comment seen elsewhere this AM:
"This guy’s ...Comment seen elsewhere this AM:<br /><br />"<i>This guy’s next book should be about how Richard Jewell is guilty.</i>"RighteousThugnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35789388942234251122014-04-21T10:36:21.805-04:002014-04-21T10:36:21.805-04:00KC this has become some kind of religion on the le...KC this has become some kind of religion on the left. They continue to believe in spite of the inconvenient facts. When you consider the religious right and the religious left they are not that much different. They all worship at their beliefs. Things that cant be proven to them must be true, "something happened" is an an example. I see the same in the global warming debate on both sides. Another example is Obama saying that global warming is "settled science" (non-sense from our president - the fact is that science is never settled. It is continuous investigation to learn). What is it about people that makes then latch on to extreme positions without any (or definitive) proof. Just accusations! Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-60931765765624485732014-04-21T10:32:42.362-04:002014-04-21T10:32:42.362-04:00"quote from Nifong’s attorney suggesting they..."quote from Nifong’s attorney suggesting they received special treatment because of their wealth"<br /><br />As opposed to people like Nifong who can do any damn thing they please and cry "I got immunity!"<br /><br />Please.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-40470979344994694892014-04-21T09:51:36.557-04:002014-04-21T09:51:36.557-04:00I'm focusing on the non-reality-based reviews;...I'm focusing on the non-reality-based reviews; Bill's doesn't fall into that category!kcjohnson9https://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-79675883875827482892014-04-21T09:38:03.616-04:002014-04-21T09:38:03.616-04:00I don't mind if K.C. comments as long as he do...I don't mind if K.C. comments as long as he doesn't point out some bad grammar and sentence structure errors I have made. Lew's site has a new webmaster, and I have not yet made the connections that will enable me to clean up the grammatical messes I have made.<br /><br />My senior English teacher, Mr. Ashley, demanded that we write compount-complex sentences, and I get myself in a lot of trouble when the sentences get too long!<br /><br />I'm in need of a good editor, since I have not proved up to the task of editing my own work!William L. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802990642236807359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84936047575987071572014-04-21T09:34:17.186-04:002014-04-21T09:34:17.186-04:00Professor Johnson,
Will you be commenting on Bill...Professor Johnson,<br /><br />Will you be commenting on Bill Anderson's superb posted reviews "<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/04/william-l-anderson/innocent-boys-victimized-for-their-race/" rel="nofollow">Duke Lacrosse: The Lies Continue (and Get Bigger and Bigger)</a>" (4/11/14) and "<a href="http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/04/william-l-anderson/pc-liars-never-give-up/" rel="nofollow">Cohan the Barbarian Assaults the Truth (Again and Again)</a>: (4/21/14)?<br /><br />Or are you limiting your posts to just published reviews (which is perfectly fine, IMO)?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-41657442591132868692014-04-21T09:29:35.758-04:002014-04-21T09:29:35.758-04:00KC:
" Long managed to avoid the obvious ques...KC:<br /><br />"<i> Long managed to avoid the obvious question, which Cohan, as a Nifong apologist, has shown no interest in answering"</i><br /><br />Cohan hasn't even asked the question, much less try to answer it. He dare not.RighteousThugnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-8524182296873651722014-04-21T08:24:18.796-04:002014-04-21T08:24:18.796-04:00Notice that Long repeats the false $60 million fig...Notice that Long repeats the false $60 million figure as a "fact," and that when she brings up Radley's piece on Darryl Howard, she notes that Michael Byron Nifong was the prosecutor, but does not seem to enjoy the irony that Cohan PRAISES Nifong throughout the book.<br /><br />I was afraid this was going to happen when the players were exonerated. People on the Left never were going to accept that result because it violated their precious little narratives.William L. Andersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01802990642236807359noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-51231895243752771642014-04-21T07:20:28.765-04:002014-04-21T07:20:28.765-04:00Latest update on reader reaction to Cohan's bo...Latest update on reader reaction to Cohan's book on Amazon: Seven 5 star reviews; three 4 star reviews;THIRTY FOUR 1 star reviews. It is refreshing that the readers do not take the word of the so called "expert" reviewers seriously.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53150935466867753462014-04-21T03:36:34.818-04:002014-04-21T03:36:34.818-04:00KC,
By now you should be beginning to realize that...KC,<br />By now you should be beginning to realize that the Liberal media is not only 'drive-by' but also 'hit-and-run'.<br />Big AlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com