tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post8941496674319512705..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: Updateskcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-88499209453821180402013-06-04T09:33:27.337-04:002013-06-04T09:33:27.337-04:00What would happen if an accused student refuses to...What would happen if an accused student refuses to waive his/her rights to counsel, cross examination, timely discovery, etc, and stonewalled the procedure ?<br /><br />Limits their statements to cries of "Tyranny, No Justice, Kangaroo Court".<br /><br />Perhaps files civil suits.<br /><br />How would the University then proceed?A Duke Dadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49707621245813294512013-05-30T22:31:26.687-04:002013-05-30T22:31:26.687-04:00Doug (@9:32):
You ask "who at the Dept of Ed...Doug (@9:32):<br /><br />You ask "who at the Dept of Education is originating these ideas to hobble due process?".<br /><br />Every major department of government now has a large and growing race/gender relations department. Every one of them.<br /><br />...Graduates of Duke's Race/Gender studies programs, and their peers from dozens of similar programs across the land, have to work somewhere. Since they (mostly) cannot do anything anyone else would pay them money to do, they have two entertwined career paths. Academia. And, government. <br /><br />They go to work for the Department of Education. And Labor. And Commerce. You get the idea.<br /><br />Examine the recent sexual harassment settlement with the University of Montana, for example. The University agreed to adopt a federal inter-agency proposal to eliminate many due process protections from those accused of sexual harassment. <br /><br />The University also agreed that sexual harassment on campus no longer need be something that a "reasonable woman" would find objectionable. This standard, the legal standard for a decade, is now gone. Nothing replaces it. Sexual harassment can now mean anything, or nothing.<br /><br />All those stupid things that we heard from members of Duke's race/gender participants a few years ago are now national policy. The policy will be enforced at every university which receives federal aid. That is to say, all of them.<br /><br />Jim PetersonJim In San Diegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06959286127760699852noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-42088199738955645642013-05-30T09:49:40.703-04:002013-05-30T09:49:40.703-04:00"...looking for situations where accused stud..."...looking for situations where accused students weren't represented by counsel at the hearing?"<br /><br />Like you, I don't know why that isn't happening.<br /><br />The lacrosse players were condemned without any hearing at all (despite guarantees in the student handbook), and that was just fine and dandy with the law,<br />because the federal courts have ruled<br />that student handbooks in NC are not enforceable contracts. <br />(You have to pay<br />for tuition, but contractually, you may as well have just given the university that money as a gift, because the university <br />incurs no contractual obligation to you.)<br /><br />In fact, if university admins learn anything<br />from the lacrosse cases, it is that if you<br />spend enough money and stall long <br />enough, you can violate all<br />of your students' rights (including helping a prosecutor frame them for a crime which never happened), and suffer no serious<br />consequences at all<br />(but that's just MOO)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-9555750659660811852013-05-30T09:32:13.250-04:002013-05-30T09:32:13.250-04:00KC,
I've been following your updates since t...KC, <br /><br />I've been following your updates since the beginning of the frame, but I believe this is the first time I've commented.<br /><br />I'm wondering who at the Dept. of Ed. is originating these ideas to hobble due process?<br /><br />DougAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-48920436970592502872013-05-30T04:35:14.254-04:002013-05-30T04:35:14.254-04:00Is there no evidence that all of those out of work...Is there no evidence that all of those out of work lawyers are screening the college's and universities' student newspapers looking for situations where accused students weren't represented by counsel at the hearing? Have they all been brainwashed by the liberal faculty that loss of individual rights is justifiable? They're ignoring meal tickets.<br />Big AlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com