tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post907678365188917936..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: The Dowd Case in Perspectivekcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger86125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-15975297086870215942007-05-21T22:30:00.000-04:002007-05-21T22:30:00.000-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530476676444348404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-14102277858879279442007-05-21T21:16:00.000-04:002007-05-21T21:16:00.000-04:00Contd.If Duke continues as-is,then dramas like we'...Contd.<BR/>If Duke continues as-is,<BR/>then dramas like we've seen<BR/>unfold will recur, again and<BR/>again.<BR/><BR/>If the Duke BOT loves its' <BR/>school, it'll clean it up.<BR/>I know that there're lots<BR/>of parents who want to see<BR/>change, so that their<BR/>children - who haven't<BR/>yet graduated - won't have<BR/>to transfer, or fear for<BR/>their lives.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-54417218557924473332007-05-21T21:13:00.000-04:002007-05-21T21:13:00.000-04:00KC continues this blog.Why? In part,I'd guess th...KC continues this blog.<BR/>Why? In part,<BR/>I'd guess that he sees <BR/>Duke as an indicator of how <BR/>Universities are going<BR/>to be - most of them -<BR/>in the near future.<BR/><BR/>I don't know if KC has given<BR/>up on Duke, but I seriously<BR/>doubt it.<BR/><BR/>Why don't you ask him?machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19785632431226270462007-05-21T15:22:00.000-04:002007-05-21T15:22:00.000-04:00KC started this blog because he got mad that 88 pr...KC started this blog because he got mad that 88 professors from Duke publicly denounced their students. The reform Duke movement came late. Like Jack, I don't care about Duke. My purpose was to see this injustice corrected and have the charges dropped against the defendents.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-42990912274617932912007-05-21T11:15:00.000-04:002007-05-21T11:15:00.000-04:00Hey, Jack,Whose business was it for KCto intervene...Hey, Jack,<BR/><BR/>Whose business was it for KC<BR/>to intervene - using your <BR/>squalid arguments about why<BR/>no one should care about<BR/>Duke?machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-6463085446715995782007-05-21T10:35:00.000-04:002007-05-21T10:35:00.000-04:00BTW, Jack,you need to learn somethingthat has been...BTW, Jack,<BR/>you need to learn something<BR/>that has been attributed to<BR/>various persons:<BR/><BR/>"If you're not part of the <BR/>solution, you're part of the <BR/>problem."<BR/><BR/>You don't seem intent on being<BR/>any part of the solution.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-11908324068865050372007-05-21T10:30:00.000-04:002007-05-21T10:30:00.000-04:00Jack,Do you have any idea what theDuke's value is ...Jack,<BR/><BR/>Do you have any idea what the<BR/>Duke's value is to our country?<BR/>Do you know anything at all<BR/>about Duke?<BR/><BR/>Why don't you make a list of<BR/>all the things that Duke does<BR/>well, and compare it with the<BR/>things it doesn't? Then you'll<BR/>see - (though I somehow doubt <BR/>you'll be capable of seeing) -<BR/>that institutions like Duke<BR/>play an incredibly valuable<BR/>part in our society.<BR/><BR/>Start listing, buddy.<BR/>Do it Chinese-menu style.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52391225834740149582007-05-20T22:28:00.000-04:002007-05-20T22:28:00.000-04:00Why save Duke? Who are you to think that you actu...Why save Duke? Who are you to think that you actually can save Duke? From who, what - things that YOU don't agree with? Better yet, who are you to think it needs saving? It is Duke's admission policies, Duke's endowment, their faculty, buildings and research projects. Duke has set the agenda - if you don't like it, fine, then YOU move on. It is presumptious for you to think they need to be saved.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530476676444348404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19452274683452215482007-05-20T20:42:00.000-04:002007-05-20T20:42:00.000-04:00Point was: ANY Triage Nursecould tell you; you do...Point was: ANY Triage Nurse<BR/>could tell you; you don't need<BR/>a medical degree to see this.<BR/>I never said Triage Nurses<BR/>ordered quarantines, but they<BR/>do separate the merely sick<BR/>from the deathly sick.<BR/><BR/>It also doesn't matter if Duke's<BR/>affliction is self-inflicted<BR/>or not: there are plenty of <BR/>people here who think it's worth<BR/>saving, or they wouldn't be<BR/>spending so much time on the <BR/>subject. <BR/><BR/>Some - like you - may want to <BR/>move on, thinking the effort<BR/>to save Duke from itself not<BR/>worth the effort.<BR/><BR/>So, then, move on.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-87765064927685650452007-05-20T17:42:00.000-04:002007-05-20T17:42:00.000-04:00Doctors "fix it" or "quarantine it" - not nurses. ...Doctors "fix it" or "quarantine it" - not nurses. The triage nurse seperates folk into catagories for the Doctors to treat, based on his/her judgement as to who needs to be treated first.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84918277773419090102007-05-20T17:05:00.000-04:002007-05-20T17:05:00.000-04:00Mac @ 10:24First of all, the patient in this case,...Mac @ 10:24<BR/><BR/>First of all, the patient in this case, Duke University, does not consider its condition a “disease”, nor is it seeking assistance in the hopes of a cure. More importantly, the condition that Duke suffers from is self inflicted, and not accidentally.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530476676444348404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-17841848212821499772007-05-20T10:35:00.000-04:002007-05-20T10:35:00.000-04:00Doctor: the patient still hasa pulse!Doctor: the patient still has<BR/>a pulse!machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72625013868809915502007-05-20T10:24:00.000-04:002007-05-20T10:24:00.000-04:00Jack,Ummm...didn't Duke just have a major cheating...Jack,<BR/><BR/>Ummm...didn't Duke just have a <BR/>major cheating scandal?<BR/><BR/>Does this have anything to do<BR/>with the tendency of such <BR/>institutions - these days -<BR/>to dismiss morality as outre,<BR/>a waste of time, an exercise<BR/>in paternalism and blahblahblah?<BR/><BR/>Yup. There's always been cheating<BR/>as long as there've been tests,<BR/>but there's rarely been a time <BR/>when people - (like some in the 88)<BR/>would think cheating was ok if it<BR/>helped the downtrodden make their<BR/>way over the top of the graves<BR/>of the established order <BR/>blahblahblah. <BR/><BR/>What's happening at Duke is a <BR/>symptom of a disease. There's<BR/>an outbreak - (call in the CDC!) -<BR/>and almost an epidemic.<BR/><BR/>You don't abandon one patient <BR/>in the vain hopes of curing it<BR/>in another who carries the same<BR/>bug: you stop it where it lives.<BR/>Duke could be saved, and it should.<BR/><BR/>Any Triage Nurse could tell you<BR/>that: you either fix it or<BR/>quarantine it.machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-90714547156936657932007-05-19T23:01:00.000-04:002007-05-19T23:01:00.000-04:00Anonymous 10:14 said... ...Stop trying to reform t...Anonymous 10:14 said... <BR/>...Stop trying to reform the Politburo. Just stop supporting them. <BR/>::<BR/>The politburo was the executive committee of the old Soviet Communist party. 20 members.<BR/><BR/>I support higher education and not the memory of the old politburo.<BR/><BR/>Extremism is not higher education.<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-53388637538984167172007-05-19T22:51:00.000-04:002007-05-19T22:51:00.000-04:00Anonymous @ 10:14My point all exactly. Duke is fr...Anonymous @ 10:14<BR/><BR/>My point all exactly. Duke is free to do as it wishes, as is Harvard, Miami(Ohio), Carleton College, San Jose St. or Pomona College. If people would base their selection of a college for their children on something other than US News rankings, how the neighbors react or the rear window decal, put some substantive consideration into where you spend your money and how to value a degree and an education, then these schools would may be less inclined to invest in such fluffy curricula, radical faculty and wishy washy thinking. Rather than brow beat Duke, or yourselves, just write it off, take a pass, send your kids some where else. That so much energy is being expended to analyze, evaluate and condemn the internal workings of Duke University validates the school’s investment in an image campaign over the past 20 years.Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530476676444348404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-27748409562868042992007-05-19T22:14:00.000-04:002007-05-19T22:14:00.000-04:00One train of thought on this blog concerns me. The...One train of thought on this blog concerns me. There is much advocacy of “someone” holding college faculty members to account. Who would that “someone” be? Do you guys realize (1) college administrators have quite immense power to select and reward or punish faculty already and (2) investing universally leftist administrators with more power would merely ensure the quick departure or marginalization of the few remaining conservative faculty and the occasional liberal heretic like your beloved Professor Johnson!<BR/><BR/>Stop trying to reform the Politburo. Just stop supporting them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-46308257107440057732007-05-19T22:02:00.000-04:002007-05-19T22:02:00.000-04:00I read that "they" think the pay off was around $6...I read that "they" think the pay off was around $60,000 which hoepfully,covered lawyers expenses.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-35779468289341473722007-05-19T21:44:00.000-04:002007-05-19T21:44:00.000-04:004:24For the satisfaction.Not for the money.Unless ...4:24<BR/><BR/>For the satisfaction.<BR/>Not for the money.<BR/>Unless you know the terms<BR/>of the settlement - (right,<BR/>Kim/Mr. Curtis?)<BR/><BR/>If it were me, I'd sue for<BR/>the satisfaction of seeing<BR/>a teacher - (who betrayed her<BR/>charge and her profession) -<BR/>eating her misapplied grade.<BR/><BR/>For the satisfaction.<BR/>Not the money.<BR/><BR/>And I'd keep the money.<BR/>I'd keep it in a savings <BR/>account with the title:<BR/><BR/>"Duly earned from pain and<BR/>humilation."<BR/><BR/>Do you think that people who <BR/>sue for pain and suffering <BR/>should all donate their money <BR/>to someone else's causes?<BR/><BR/>Is that "for the money"<BR/>when they don't?machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14248016116043347912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-22207396882495421232007-05-19T21:04:00.000-04:002007-05-19T21:04:00.000-04:00"Finally, I wonder how the existence of the suit w..."Finally, I wonder how the existence of the suit will affect Dowd's employment options in the future. Will companies consider his willingness to bring past lawsuits a risk?"<BR/><BR/>The answer...not at all, just in case the person that posted this was hoping for that result.<BR/>He's employed by a top financial firm doing extremely well, and just started his second season of pro lacrosse. His employers have been completely supportive of his efforts throughout this suit. There will be no issues with his future career with regard to this. If anything he has received positive kudos for standing up to Kim Curtis and Duke. <BR/><BR/><BR/>rds248Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1518668738271708872007-05-19T19:33:00.000-04:002007-05-19T19:33:00.000-04:00I though a D was a passing grade, as oppossed to t...I though a D was a passing grade, as oppossed to the original F. I don't think this was a pass/fail test. Anyone have any information on this?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-806189711994145022007-05-19T19:19:00.000-04:002007-05-19T19:19:00.000-04:00Bravo! moneyrunner @ 1:57 PMBravo! moneyrunner @ 1:57 PMAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-74623126864585182082007-05-19T19:13:00.000-04:002007-05-19T19:13:00.000-04:00Anonymous 2:21 said... "The grade was changed l...Anonymous 2:21 said...<BR/><BR/> "The grade was changed last May - and he graduated, Long before any law suits."<BR/><BR/>-------<BR/><BR/>Respectfully, do you have a cite for this? <BR/><BR/>The grade was previously changed to a "D", due to the undeniable mathematical "error" (yeah, that's what it was, right ....an "error").<BR/><BR/>It took a LAWSUIT to get it changed to a "P", because that change required going beyond mathematics to prove wrongdoing by Curtis. Which was proven to the satisfaction of the arbitrator, and effectively admitted by Duke in accepting the decision.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-73221037058934446702007-05-19T17:29:00.000-04:002007-05-19T17:29:00.000-04:00Anonymous 5:16 said... ...His failure to attend cl...Anonymous 5:16 said... <BR/><BR/>...His failure to attend classes for the entire last month of school always bothered me<BR/><BR/>...Can you say hostile environment? I knew you could. <BR/>::<BR/>Might be appropriate now to bump that up to hostile work environment harassment!<BR/>::<BR/>GPGary Packwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05177986821224068759noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-43163524136536938842007-05-19T17:16:00.000-04:002007-05-19T17:16:00.000-04:00His failure to attend classes for the entire last ...<I><BR/>His failure to attend classes for the entire last month of school always bothered me<BR/></I><BR/><BR/>Can you say hostile environment? I knew you could.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-82320056321296543252007-05-19T16:24:00.000-04:002007-05-19T16:24:00.000-04:00Mac - For the money. What else???In spite of the u...Mac - For the money. What else???In spite of the usual denials of "I am not doing it for the money, but to make sure this never happens again to anyone and bring attention to the event" This is BS - unless they give all the money to charity.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com