tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post9114310014438254088..comments2024-02-24T05:19:10.949-05:00Comments on Durham-in-Wonderland: When Tim Was a Potbangerkcjohnson9http://www.blogger.com/profile/09625813296986996867noreply@blogger.comBlogger127125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-3294305923936542632007-08-27T10:21:00.000-04:002007-08-27T10:21:00.000-04:00Oh and by the way,Christopher Hitchens is a Commun...Oh and by the way,<BR/>Christopher Hitchens <B>is</B> a Communist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12745361556492007312007-08-27T09:22:00.000-04:002007-08-27T09:22:00.000-04:00Debrah said... "Christopher Hitchens is a prince!"...Debrah said... <BR/>"Christopher Hitchens is a prince!"<BR/><BR/>Him I <B>could</B> picture laughing in the purple rain.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-85759292734171198132007-08-25T10:04:00.000-04:002007-08-25T10:04:00.000-04:00Christopher Hitchens is a prince!Christopher Hitchens is a <I>prince</I>!Debrahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04567454727276881424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-4451575967366232822007-08-24T17:14:00.000-04:002007-08-24T17:14:00.000-04:00Ralph,Most of them have don't have the time to spe...Ralph,<BR/><BR/>Most of them have don't have the time to spending reading DiW (unlike those of us on sabbatical :) ). Plus, my guess is that if they perused the comment section here, they'd be pretty appalled by the way in which the left is viewed, making them all the less likely to want to appear to give succor to people who'd like to see them fired or who think they are responsible for the destruction of western civilization.<BR/><BR/>The fact is that I work with many of them. We've talked about the Duke case and a good number of them think what the faculty did was indeed a rush to judgment and that an apology is in order.Steven Horwitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00470758334242360804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-57759914895996443662007-08-24T13:13:00.000-04:002007-08-24T13:13:00.000-04:00Steve Horwitz said:"Maybe, just maybe, there are s...Steve Horwitz said:<BR/><BR/>"Maybe, just maybe, there are smart, reasonable, open-minded people on the left in academia who are as appalled by the behavior of some of their colleagues as conservatives are."<BR/><BR/>Maybe. But if so, where are they all hiding?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-19614729065684426612007-08-24T12:56:00.000-04:002007-08-24T12:56:00.000-04:00To RP... I did not know about Alan Sokal, thanks f...To RP... I did not know about Alan Sokal, thanks for the reference. Hitchens is fascinating, perhaps an iconoclast. But it was hard to accept his criticism of Mother Teresa, and I am wary of atheists who are better educated than I am. <BR/><BR/>To SH... Most certainly there are many on the left who see the threat posed by the academic types profiled by KC. If those on the right (and left) could exercise more restraint, avoid polarizing every debate into the end game between good and evil, and recognize that neither side is monolithic, I suppose we would see better results on campus, in the media, and in Washington, DC.<BR/><BR/>Naturally, I would benefit by following my own advice, and yours. It's hard for me to reconcile that an intellectual conservative like KC could be politically liberal, but I'm sure glad that he and his cadre of bloggers have shone the light of truth on Duke University. I pray that at least a few there will listen and be inspired to reform.Stuart McGeadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384232058188464218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-77283642843572724472007-08-24T09:16:00.000-04:002007-08-24T09:16:00.000-04:00NJNP"One may enjoy the fruits of Duke and avoid th...NJNP<BR/>"One may enjoy the fruits of Duke and avoid the Klan of 88."<BR/><BR/>Tell that to Evans, Seligman and Finnerty.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-36061900436862504702007-08-24T09:10:00.000-04:002007-08-24T09:10:00.000-04:00Stu writes:Definitely I am having trouble understa...Stu writes:<BR/><BR/><I>Definitely I am having trouble understanding how KC Johnson, the brilliant author of this influential D-i-W blog, could be liberal, probably Democrat, and a supporter of the neophyte Barack Hussein Obama.</I><BR/><BR/>Maybe, just maybe, there are smart, reasonable, open-minded people on the left in academia who are as appalled by the behavior of some of their colleagues as conservatives are. Maybe, just maybe, policy difference sometimes (though not always) boil down to disagreements among smart, well-meaning people, rather than battles of good and evil.<BR/><BR/>Of course believing THAT means you might have to treat university faculty in the liberal arts as perhaps something more complex than the monolithic force portrayed too often around here.Steven Horwitzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00470758334242360804noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-5599382967690622342007-08-24T09:02:00.000-04:002007-08-24T09:02:00.000-04:007:24Point of clarification. Although I am a '74 T...7:24<BR/><BR/>Point of clarification. Although I am a '74 Trinity graduate, I am not the person posting under that pseudonym.<BR/><BR/>Thanks!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-37803526970197829592007-08-24T08:38:00.000-04:002007-08-24T08:38:00.000-04:00"I don't see how anyone, much less KC, could gener..."I don't see how anyone, much less KC, could generally agree with the right on the key issues brought forth in this blog, but otherwise travel with the left."<BR/><BR/>Ever heard of Christopher Hitchins? Or Alan Sokal?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-52177240515919607892007-08-24T07:07:00.000-04:002007-08-24T07:07:00.000-04:00One may enjoy the fruits of Duke and avoid the Kla...One may enjoy the fruits of Duke and avoid the Klan of 88. But two problems remain; the lack of leadership and the fact that the list is likely much larger than 88. Everyone who abetted this hoax is still either actually on campus, in significant positions, or the spirit of their thinking remains.<BR/><BR/>In some regards it is a shame that more time wasn't spent politely asking other peers to sign the Listening Statement to better allow the unwashed laborers a chance to understand what they are getting for their $46k per year.<BR/><BR/>(I've continually tied the cost to $60k per year in error. I thought that the $46k did not include room and board, books, travel, etc. Based upon experience the all-in costs are probably low, but not reaching $60k per year. Regardless, as a consumer, the cost to take classes from the Klan of 88 is too much - let the market decide what their worth)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-36204860964516297972007-08-24T06:18:00.000-04:002007-08-24T06:18:00.000-04:00Maybe this blog was better before conservative vs....Maybe this blog was better before conservative vs. liberal, or republican vs. democrat(vs. libertarian) or presidential politics got in the way.<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'm having trouble thinking outside my box.<BR/><BR/>Definitely I am having trouble understanding how KC Johnson, the brilliant author of this influential D-i-W blog, could be liberal, probably Democrat, and a supporter of the neophyte Barack Hussein Obama.<BR/><BR/>As a leading critic of political correctness, and the hypocrisy laden blight its practitioners bring to our institutions of law and in academia, KC aligns himself with notable conservatives David Horowitz, Dinesh D'Souza, the great Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams, the editors and contributors of National Review, City Journal, not to mention Limbaugh, Hannity, Ann Coulter, Michelle Malkin and Mark Levin. <BR/><BR/>Draw up your own personal list. These folks are not single issue specialists. For the most part they are systematic thinkers with a conservative philosophy at the root of their arguments and opinions. <BR/><BR/>I don't see how anyone, much less KC, could generally agree with the right on the key issues brought forth in this blog, but otherwise travel with the left.Stuart McGeadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09384232058188464218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-80989184352840666212007-08-24T02:42:00.000-04:002007-08-24T02:42:00.000-04:00Thank you for your 8:49 p.m. post, duke 1965. My s...Thank you for your 8:49 p.m. post, duke 1965. My son made no mistake in choosing Duke in the late 1990's. It prepared him well for higher degrees and a good job, and he had a lot of fun and made many new (and diverse)friends along the way. <BR/><BR/>I sent him the list of the signers of the listening statement, and he did not know any of them, nor did his wife, also a recent Duke graduate. One former suite mate, a Spanish major, knew of Aerial Dorfman as a novelist, but never took a class from him. The other suite mate was clueless about these 88.<BR/><BR/>I guess these recent graduates are among those many insensitive and benighted students who wander through their four years on campus, oblivious to the deep concerns that Lubiano and the potbangers and the women's studies majors have about that terrible student culture corrupting the campus.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-2477088993363516242007-08-23T20:49:00.000-04:002007-08-23T20:49:00.000-04:009:03 asked,"If you had to choose between telling y...9:03 asked,<BR/><BR/>"If you had to choose between telling your son to go to work in the private sector at the best job he could get with a high school degree for four years, after which time you would give him $175,000 dollars (the estimated cost of a four year degree at Dook) to start his own business, or just paying $175,000 to Dick Brodhead so that your son could be exposed to "the best liberal arts education money can buy", what would you do?"<BR/><BR/>I'd send him to Duke in a heartbeat, assuming he could get in, and it was what he wanted...... the problem with a blog like this is that one can easily get a very distorted impression of what the life of a typical Duke student is like. These professors, to put it mildly, are not a significant part of the average student's life. They are incredibly insignificant in the big picture, except in the halls of academia and their own minds......... we need to remember that these are kids we're talking about. If you're a 19 year old Duke student, would you rather listen to Grant Farred ramble on about the "other", or go to a tailgate party where the LAX team has rented a foam machine? See my point? This stuff is just irrelevant to the majority of Duke students. And if anyone thinks these very bright, very ambitious students are being brainwashed, they just don't know much about Duke or its students.Duke1965https://www.blogger.com/profile/04340856191308342534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-84964353809003978372007-08-23T20:28:00.000-04:002007-08-23T20:28:00.000-04:00On the gratuitous Gonzales slam, I figure KC is ju...On the gratuitous Gonzales slam, I figure KC is just establishing his <I>bona fides</I> as a liberal, Obama supporting Democrat. He's been known to do that in the past.<BR/><BR/>Gonzales isn't a villain but more a hapless figure, over his head in the job our over-his-head president gave him.<BR/><BR/>Oops, there I go slamming away just like KC. But at least I'm not a Democrat.<BR/><BR/>beckettbecket03https://www.blogger.com/profile/18173177473977303546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-11215568412644825542007-08-23T19:27:00.000-04:002007-08-23T19:27:00.000-04:00To Inman and "Architect" (aka Hopeless Romantic):Y...To Inman and "Architect" (aka Hopeless Romantic):<BR/><BR/>Yes, Rove and the boys are already begging their Dem counterparts, "Please! Please, don't run any more Northern liberals for President against us!! (((((****trying to supress maniacal laughter****)))))"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-78643580145084244362007-08-23T19:24:00.000-04:002007-08-23T19:24:00.000-04:00DebrahTrinity 74 is Tom Inman.Debrah<BR/><BR/>Trinity 74 is Tom Inman.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-11084819584609997622007-08-23T18:45:00.000-04:002007-08-23T18:45:00.000-04:002:41 Steve Horwitz, no it does not show that the i...2:41 Steve Horwitz, no it does not show that the indoctrination isn't working. What it shows is one exceptional woman who doesn't stand for the bull shit.<BR/><BR/>If one person buys into the PC pap, then it is one too many. Witness the many abettors to this hoax.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-12152811631947028172007-08-23T16:38:00.000-04:002007-08-23T16:38:00.000-04:00Anon 2:57 2:58 2:59 with his definition of "libera...Anon 2:57 2:58 2:59 with his definition of "liberal" that excludes 99% of the American electorate is another exemplar of what's wrong with modern academia.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-1201468263837352432007-08-23T16:35:00.000-04:002007-08-23T16:35:00.000-04:00Anon @ 3:42 writes:Look, the Gonzales person is li...Anon @ 3:42 writes:<BR/><BR/><I>Look, the Gonzales person is like the hundred AGs that came before him - to wit, he's a reprehensible bacillus.<BR/>And, as to party politics, all i want to know is:<BR/>Are you now, or have you ever been<BR/>a Democrat or a Republican?</I><BR/><BR/>Damn! Now THAT is brilliant!<BR/><BR/>This anon poster must have taken the same Political Parties course I took as an undergrad.<BR/><BR/>On the first day of class, our professor, the late Dr. Conrad Joyner, gave us a quick speech which I'll have to paraphrase.<BR/><BR/>"If any of you are Democrats or Republicans because of some set of "principles" or because you're for the common man and the downtrodden, or for the wealthy and privileged, etc. etc. etc., I want you to know that the last day to drop this class is October 1st.<BR/><BR/>Now, with that in mind, let's begin the study of Political Parties ..."<BR/><BR/>I could care less what label KC prefers or what label any of you, Horwitz included, wish to give him. <BR/><BR/>I do care that he has helped shed light on a great injustice that without him and others, could have blossomed into a colossal injustice.<BR/><BR/>I also care that the purpose of this Blog can be altered by partisan postings such as KC's unfortunate Gonzales "sound bite." I don't want this Blog to denigrate into a discussion of party politics, thanks.<BR/><BR/>Just my thoughts.One Spookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00592774438681904368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-23779878339937806842007-08-23T16:10:00.000-04:002007-08-23T16:10:00.000-04:00Re: "Gonzales" -- Are we talking about the tall Hi...Re: "Gonzales" -- Are we talking about the tall Hispanic hospital orderly in the movie "The Right Stuff" who escorted Alan Sheppard to the men's room ... after Sheppard made the Jose Jimenez joke ... <BR/><BR/>That Gonzales also escorted folks with something stuck up their ...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-72974164433700973882007-08-23T16:01:00.000-04:002007-08-23T16:01:00.000-04:00rrh @ 3:31LOL!rrh @ 3:31<BR/><BR/>LOL!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-55579557611083986872007-08-23T15:46:00.000-04:002007-08-23T15:46:00.000-04:00To rrhamilton:Just call me the "Architect"3:20To rrhamilton:<BR/><BR/>Just call me the "Architect"<BR/><BR/>3:20Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-30742626551308917952007-08-23T15:42:00.000-04:002007-08-23T15:42:00.000-04:00Yo, Dr. Johnson,Look, the Gonzales person is like ...Yo, Dr. Johnson,<BR/><BR/>Look, the Gonzales person is like the hundred AGs that came before him - to wit, he's a reprehensible bacillus.<BR/>And, as to party politics, all i want to know is:<BR/> Are you now, or have you ever been<BR/> a Democrat or a Republican?<BR/><BR/>It's just that the Gonzales crack was so uncharacteristic that it attracted my curiosity. Having wrassled with it for 15 hours, my conlusion is that you introduced it, intentionally as a mistake, for the dramatic contrast.<BR/><BR/>My old pal Jim Ed, on the other hand, thought you were measuring the reactions of the commenters. I gave him the old raised eyebrow and he said "Oh. Right. No need to measure."<BR/><BR/>Down the years the mystery will grow. A thousand explanations will blossom, all wrong. All of us will be interviewed in our dotage for having been there at the actual event. But, no one will be able to say they really know.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-32542246.post-49683841048884646512007-08-23T15:40:00.000-04:002007-08-23T15:40:00.000-04:00“When Tim Was a Potbanger.” It appears that KC is...“When Tim Was a Potbanger.” It appears that KC is now merely trying to run-up the count of male G88er’s that he refers to on an informal basis versus the number of female G88er’s that he refers to on an informal basis. Somewhere there is a G88 aspirant that is in the throes of an apoplectic fit over the use of ‘Tim’ no doubt. Very clever, KC.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com