Saturday, February 17, 2007

More Airbrushing

Creatively reinterpreting the past appears to be a theme in case-related matters this week. The potbangers blazed the trail; Amanda Marcotte took up the challenge.

The ex-official blogger for the Edwards campaign published an explanation of her departure yesterday in Salon.

Her departure from the Edwards campaign, in her view, was a cataclysmic setback. In her article, she claimed:

  • “Regardless of its motive, the result of the smear campaign was to send a loud, clear signal to young feminist women. It tells them that campaigning for Democratic candidates, and particularly doing so in positions that would help the candidate connect with young feminist communities like the one that thrives in the blogosphere, is a scary, risky prospect.”
  • “When I was trying to decide whether to resign, no other concern weighed as heavy as the fear that resigning would tell the right-wing mob that harassing young feminists works.”
  • “It’s also plausible that the right-wing noise machine was working on pure misogynist emotion.”
  • “This was just the first sign that the established media and political circles will not be letting the blog-writing rabble into the circle without a fight.”

Marcotte mostly attacked the Catholic League’s Bill Donohue. But, she conceded, her problems began when she “noticed a small flare-up of oddly aggressive and misogynistic comments in my moderation queue over a short, irritated post I wrote about the coverage of the Duke lacrosse rape case on CNN.” That post, dated early January, openly asserted that a sexual assault took place.

Her response? To assume “that some anti-feminist blogger had linked me and so, in frustration, I went and rewrote my by-then week-old post to mock the commenters by spelling out my views in childish, easy-to-understand language.”

Marcotte is a professional blogger; I’m not. But I don’t consider it common practice at most blogs to, upon receiving questioning comments, eliminate the original post and replace it with something else.

And how does Marcotte define an “anti-feminist blogger”? Apparently anyone who believes that no evidence exists in this case to suggest that a rape occurred.

The affair, laments Marcotte, “may have been the first indication that the right-wing noise machine had noticed me and was looking for something with which to hurt me and my new employers.”

The blogs that did the most postings on Marcotte and the Duke case were Liestoppers and DIW—hardly part of the “right-wing noise machine.” Liestoppers was devoted to a campaign designed to allow Mike Easley, a Democrat, to appoint Durham County’s next DA; this blog is run by someone backing Barack Obama.

But, as Marcotte made clear in her original (airbrushed) post about the case, she clearly is someone for whom the facts are secondary to advancing her ideological agenda.

By the way, Marcotte also claimed in her Salon column that “liberal blogs are issue-oriented and good at parsing out complex ideas that don’t fit well into the sound-bite-driven mainstream discourse. They are a good fit for wonky Democrats.”

Here’s a compilation of Marcotte’s postings on the lacrosse case. How many people would consider these postings examples of “parsing out complex ideas,” or “wonky,” or “issue-oriented”?

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Another redefining occurred this week in the Chronicle column of one of the few remaining defenders of the Group of 88, Samson Mesele. Echoing the assertion of Charles Piot from last Monday’s edition of the Group of 88 Rehab Tour, Mesele claimed that the Group of 88 is really the Group of 89—that “in my view, [President Brodhead] is an honorary signatory of the ad and its references to student-identified problems of racism, sexual coercion and social inequality at Duke.” (I’m not sure Brodhead would agree with this claim.)

Mesele articulated the Group of 88’s current talking points—(1) the ad had nothing to do with the lacrosse case; (2) dozens of professors taking out full-page ads “listening” to their students is somehow routine in higher education: (3) critics have willfully misinterpreted the document, which no one noticed at the time.

“Indeed,” he wrote, “the April ad’s social commentary transcends the very dimensions of the lacrosse case. Publishing student experiences is . . . an extension of the University’s educational interests.”

The latter claim is, of course, absurd: it would imply that every day, college newspapers are filled with dozens of ads published by dozens of professors “listening” to students with whom those professors agree on ideological issues.

But what of Mesele’s first claim? His assertion echoed that of the “clarifying” faculty, whose defiant open letter asserted that the Group of 88’s statement was not “a comment on the alleged rape, the team party, or the specific students accused.”

Here’s an announcement (scroll down the page) of an April 12 event at the John Hope Franklin Center:

Wednesday, April 12th, 2006: 07:00 PM - 08:30 PM

Room 240, John Hope Franklin Center

Panel Discussion

Thinking About This Social Disaster

Wahneema Lubiano (AAAS and Literature), Thavolia Glymph (AAAS and History), and Serena Sebring (Sociology)

The presenters will talk about what has happened, what is happening, and what is coming together in the framing of the accusation of rape against members of the Duke men’s lacrosse team and its afterlife. [emphasis added] There will be plenty of time for audience members to be part of the discussion.

The same announcement on the African-American Studies program blog helpfully contained a link to the (since-removed) URL of . . . the Group of 88’s ad.

Serena Sebring, as a post earlier this week noted, was a prominent potbanger; when asked whether the protesters should apologize for their rush to judgment, she eloquently replied, “Nope.” At the forum noted above, Thavolia Glymph lamented how “since the [negative] DNA results were returned Monday, we [have been] moving backwards.” And Lubiano, of course, was not only the author of the Group of 88’s ad, but the author of eight of the student quotes in the ad, which came not from a transcript but from her (apparently unverified) notes.

To review:

  • The “listening” statement, which contained quotes about what “happened to this woman” and thanked protesters for not waiting, was entitled, “What Is a Social Disaster?”
  • Six days after its publication, the AAAS hosted a forum entitled “Thinking about a Social Disaster,” which addressed “what has happened, what is happening, and what is coming together in the framing of the accusation of rape against members of the Duke men’s lacrosse team and its afterlife.”
  • The official announcement of the event on the AAAS website linked to the “listening” statement.

But the ad was not “a comment on the alleged rape, the team party, or the specific students accused.”

As Marcotte discovered, it’s difficult to airbrush the internet.

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Anonymous said...

anon@5:47

I don't think there is anyone here who disagrees that racism as the unjust oppression of others based on skin color is morally wrong. Why debate a point on which we all agree?

Polanski@5:33 rises a different point, one worth debating. The nation is obsessed with racism, but there seems to be confusion about what the racism that we meet in actual life is. Laws, culture, attitudes have changed quite a bit since slavery and the Civil Rights movement. If people's actual experiences have changed accordingly, racism probably has a different meaning today.

Anonymous said...

2:47 Inre; Racism. I just now returned from my daughters' high school track meet. A few observations:

1. White privilege didn't help.

2. Asians were under represented.

3. Ashkenazi Jews didn't appear to have any representation, but I wouldn't know one if I say one.

4. There was no normalizing. Those that worked hardest appeared to me to be the ones that had the most success.

5. The kids appear to be largely color blind and all seem to get along.

Which ties back into my point about the Gang of 88, you, and I. We all are racists, yet I think most everyone, it not everyone, would survive if stranded on an island, even though we all, at times, and in varying degrees think and sometimes say things in private or among family that would be considered racist if said publicly.

On an individual basis most, if not everyone, do NOT say these things in public and treat others with respect. Everyone is smart about something.

On the other hand the Gang of 88 and pot bangers very actively, publically, and personally attacked based upon race. Their overt act(s) demonstrate active racism. They're racist, I'm human.

Not treating actual recent rape events in similar fashion further demonstrates how racist these people really are.

Anonymous said...

As far as IQ goes, I know plenty of very smart people who are lazy and not productive on any level. They do not advance society. While one could argue that the situation(s) are zero sum, others may point out that the wasted talent is worse than someone who performs at a lower level, but works much harder to achieve what they have in advancing society.

Anonymous said...

"What happened to our old 'call to arms' of working to help poor people?"

Working to help poor people, and working to help poor people who want to help themselves are two different animals.

Anonymous said...

3:59 Inre: survival of the fittest.

That model doesn't tend to work well when the fittest are wrongly indicted and sent to prison for 30 years. They're taken out of the game and lessers then modify the gene pool.

Anonymous said...

The nation is obsessed with racism, but there seems to be confusion about what the racism that we meet in actual life is.

The definition of racism, which once was objective, has now become subjective. It is now defined by the offendee, not the offender.
Even though the offender means absolutely no offense, should the offendee take offense, there is trouble for the offender.
I can only equate this to the concept of "strict liability" in tort law.

Strict liability is a legal doctrine that makes some persons responsible for damages their actions or products cause, regardless of any "fault" on their part.

Strict liability often applies when people engage in inherently hazardous activities, such as doing "blasting" in a city, or keeping wild circus animals. If the blasting damages you -- no matter how careful the blasting company was -- it is liable for the injury. Similarly if the animals escape and injure someone, the fact that the circus used the world's strongest cages and the highest standard of care imaginable will not let it get off the hook.

Anonymous said...

5:48 God Bless Patsy McDonald. That is one of the most tightly worded, impactful letters, I've ever read. Fantastic.

M. Simon said...

6:06PM,

When you post as anon, you might try the

To:
From:

form to make things clearer.

The aftermath of the Vietnam war changed me. Everything the commies said about not doing mass killing and re-ed camps was a total lie. The boat people thing shook me. And Cambodia. That would have been around '80.

Then I started studing economics and learning from my work as an engineer about economics and figured out that the profit motive was a great engine for doing more with less. i.e. it was ecological.

Then because I hated war (I was a 'Nam vet. 3 mos in the combat zone - on the high seas - never got shot at) I started studying it. My first book on the subject was Clauzwitz "On War". Then B.H.L. Hart "On Strategy" (I still re-read it). Lots of other stuff. Books on Wellington. Churchill. etc. I became a war monger - peace through superior fire power.

Around the mid 80s I got interested in the Libertarians. A nice bunch of utopians who lack the courage of their convictions. 9/11 cured me of that.

About 4 seconds before the second plane hit I told my mate: "This means war". The Libs went into the peace at any price mode and I ditched them.

So now I'm a member of the libertarian wing of the R party.

BTW I started this all as a Truman/Kennedy Democrat. The R party these days looks a lot like that. I wish they were more libertarian, but I will be content if the continue to face off against the Islamic fascists.

I wish the Rs would end drug prohibition.
Penn and Teller On Drugs

Anonymous said...

5:59

It all gets worse as Angry Studies departments create people like the Boston school officials.

It seems as though white teachers do not make the grade according to Boston School officials and Diane Coard, organizer of Boston School's fourth annual diversity recruitment fair. "Our numbers of teachers of color, specifically black males are low," said Coard. What we are looking for are "more role models for our students."

Boston School officials hoped that the diversity recruitment fair would yield at least a hundred teaching candidates. School officials estimate that 30 to 35 percent of the city's teachers are minorities, while 70 percent of Boston's school population is black or Hispanic. School officials went on to say that studies have shown that "minority" students perform better when taught by people who share their ethnic background. This story has left me with a few questions:

1. Are they just looking for black males?

2. Are they looking for qualified teachers or role models?

3. Are they implying that these minority students are incapable of being taught by qualified White teachers?

Maybe these "minority students" perform better because these "black male / role models" are just giving them passing grades so everything looks good on paper for the Massachusetts Board of Education! Any way you look at it, white teachers fail to make the grade with the Boston School department, and White students will have highly trained black male / role models providing them with the very finest education that their minority classmates can manage to comprehend.

Polanski

Anonymous said...

Carolyn says:

4:03 pm - You are absolutely right. Professor Piot's explanation of refusing to explain (what he said about KC) is because Piot's explanation will appear in a future publication and can't be explained beforehand is - bull!

You correctly point out that publications do the opposite of what Piot says his mysterious one does - i.e., stifle all comment beforehand.

May I offer two further reasons to doubt Piot's 'explanation'? The first is ego - the second is 'publish or perish'. Piot's ego has been proven beyond doubt by his conduct with the ad, with last Monday's meeting, etc. And Piot's academic reputation, advancement, salary, etc. will perish if he does not publish. Both reasons shoot in the foot any reason to believe Piot's ridiculous 'explanation' of why he won't explain.

4:03 - I hope Piot heeds your excellent reasoning and publishes his explanation. But then - I also hope that I win the Lotto.

Anonymous said...

Carolyn says:

Patsy McDonald - your post is awesome! I can not possibly add any words to surpass what you have said so eloquently and truthfully.

Anonymous said...

Carolyn:

Unfortunately, publish or perish no longer applies to tenured full professors. They cannot perish, failure to publis only affects salary (i.e., no raises) if the school is serious. Piot does not even have that excuse. In fact, professor is his position often "prefer" to bypass the academic publishing process (why risk a rejection?) and make their work public via the net to affect the dabate. If their profile is high, they can then publish the work as a contribution to some volume edited by some friend without hassle. Again, I have never heard of an agreement like the one that Piot talks about. It makes no sense.

I don't work in the humanities. Maybe Professor Johnson can tell us if there are dramatic differences with other fields that I am not aware of.

Anonymous said...

If Piot has promised an article to an academic journal, then publishing it elsewhere most often would be strictly prohibited in the contract.

Anonymous said...

Polanski,

did they reach the goal of the fair in Boston? If not, does it say why not and what they plan to do?

Anonymous said...

4:22

I agree with Debrah. You are a freak, here only to throw mucous when shutting up and learning would do you good.
Bet your livelihood, if you have one, is government-based.
I also bet your IQ tops off at about 80. You are one vague and sappy jerk.

Anonymous said...

7:19

Never heard of it. The net is full of work available to the public that is accepted for publication at some journal and not yet printed. Check it out. The restriction is against submitting the same work to another journal at the same time (multiple submission). Piot is surely free to put the transcript on the web. He owns the copyrights until he transfers them to the publisher. If he has already done so, and that implies that he cannot put the stuff on the web, it would be a very strange contract indeed. I would be very curious to see it...

Anonymous said...

7:29--I think you're right; I'm misunderstanding the situation as if it were publishing in another journal. I'm not sure where a blog fits, though, and I'm guessing Piot doesn't either.

Anonymous said...

7:24--I am a freak, but it's not mucous I intended to throw. As far as the rest of your post goes, I think you're over-estimating me.

M. Simon said...

I just read a new term for Angry Studies - Cultural Marxists.

Anonymous said...

to 6:16:

you say that we all agree that we all agree that racism wrong. and you seem to define racism as "the unjust oppression of others based on skin color . . . ." so, can you imagine a scenario that you would describe as just oppression based on skin color?

and still you mount no argument. you simply state the conclusion and state, wrongly I think, that we all agree on it.

i think its worth debating whether or not racism, whatever it may be, is wrong. the ultimate irony of this episode with duke lax case seems to be the way the gang of 88, the black member of which, have benefitted greatly from the idea that people should be judged individually. and yet they seek a return to the days of judgment based on skin color. And while that is obvious, the interesting thing is, that if you apply their racial analysis to the jim crow south, then there is absolutely nothing wrong with segregation, the emmitt till case or any other crime committed against blacks. the group of 88's principle was applied, but just by different people with a different idea of fairness.

along the lines of judging people based on skin color, i had a new thought today. and i'm beginning to think that the boys got what they deserved. given what i suspect was a very, very politically correct edication at the boarding schools they attended and obviously received at duke, a healthy dose of doubt about black people would have served them well. in fact, had they truely detested black people (which I think many would call this racism), they would have never let CGM through the door. she would have ended up pounding on the door until the boys called the police and had her charged with trespassing.

instead, they let her in, even though they asked for a white stripper. why? perhaps they were too drunk. or perhaps, it made them feel better to think that they weren't racist when they let her in. who knows? but had they really detested black people, they would have been better off. She would have stayed in jail until she sobered up. dave evans would be on wall street, and collin and reade would have played the entire season.

next time, even if you aren't racist, boys, you should act like one.

WINDBAG

Anonymous said...

WINDBAG,

You appear to have accessed the wrong site. Let me redirect you:

http://www.americannaziparty.com/

Anonymous said...

It really irks me when educated and obviously intelligent people come to this forum telling us that the lacrosse case isn't about race.
They want us to know that it is about justice and it is about right and wrong.
Well, that too. But the foundation of everything wrong about this case is because of RACE. No one would have been moved to start a national riot if RACE were not the fundamental issue.
Just look at the latest rape allegation in Durham. A white girl was supposedly raped by a black guy wearing a do-rag. You don't see the New Black Panthers rioting on the Duke campus do you?
I hope that KC doesn't run from this fact in his book. If he does and if he obfuscates the issue like most other Democrats have tried to do, then his book won't be worth a crap.
The Duke lacrosse case was born, bred, cultivated, and turned into a national travesty because a large portion of the black population is this backward and vengeful.
It's good that the whole country was treated to some realities.
Like one of old wild-haired Cornel West's books asserts, Race Matters. And to blacks using race in every situation is like breathing to them.

Anonymous said...

"Blogs also provide a method of disseminating progressive ideas to people, while the mainstream cable news channels carry on for weeks at a time on topics such as Anna Nicole Smith's untimely demise."

The one sentence in Ms. Marcotte's article I consider worthwhile. As I've said before, she seems very green...and grouchy. Presumably, this experience will help her grow up a lot and maybe look at the world more generously.

I am with you Patsy McDonald, very dismayed at what passes for "feminism" these days and the inability of this particular "feminist" to respond intelligently and coherently to criticism without resorting to the claim that critics just dislike young feminists.

Very OT

M. Simon, U of Chicago is not on the list, even though I love the curriculum. Daughter could do cold OR far away from home, but not both. If she's going to be cold, she's going to be in the Northeast.

RP, Good news! Junior son saw BC this weekend and liked it very well!

Observer

Anonymous said...

I'm getting back to Amanda for a second...I posted a couple of times at her blog...I was measured and courteous...another Amanda-friendly poster responded to me...at that point, several other "anti-feminist" types had posted...she then deleted mine and the other anti-Mandy POV posts, but left up the post of the woman who responded to me (who was a kindred spirit of Mad Mandy's). She simply was not going to allow a dissenting opinion on her blog, which says all you need to know about Amanda Marcotte...Bill A. was absolutely right, she does not know how to debate or exchange ideas and opinions...it's her way, or the highway...I was gleeful that she got the boot, and I hope that the blog hooligans were a small part of that(petty, yes, but she's a vile, nasty girl, and a silly, potty-mouthed girl like that should not be part of any presidential candidate's campaign...she just mucked things up, and dumbed things down)...Stunning and laughable fiction from Mad Mandy below...

"Her response? To assume “that some anti-feminist blogger had linked me and so, in frustration, I went and rewrote my by-then week-old post to mock the commenters by spelling out my views in childish, easy-to-understand language.”

Oh, well, OF COURSE, that's what it was...what a joke she is! She's probably too clueless to realize what a horse's ass she looks like...

Anonymous said...

to: WINDBAG@8pm
From: 6:16pm

How about changing my definition to just "oppression of others based on skin color . . . ." and leave it at that?

I agree, unjust was redundant.

As to the rest, I cannot agree. I have nothing against blacks. Your hypothethical might work in this particular case, in that the Lax players might have saved themselves some trouble. However, I would not like to live in the world that you describe.

Anonymous said...

Marcotte is ignorant and stupid. She is trying to make a name for herself (even if it is bad...like Nifong) by using the Duke Case as a spring board. She should just be ignored and maybe she will go away like the little nat that she is. She has no clue about what she is talking about. She doesn't know the details of the case or the facts. She just makes up lies. A ten year old can do that. Not a very intelligent, insightful person. She must have very low self esteem to use the Duke case to make her name known...if that is the only way she can get attention. Marcotte is a very pathetic person really.

Anonymous said...

Courting even more trouble at BC
KC Johnson has more on administrative corruption at Brooklyn College, in the form of a Sun op-ed and a Cliopatria post on the school's "diversity commissars." One quarter of BC's hires over the past eight years have been minority hires. And yet, Brooklyn College now requires that every search committee include a minority faculty member--even if there are no minority faculty members qualified to evaluate job candidates in certain fields.

KC's op-ed summarizes the college's political agenda, as manifested in policy, public statements, and ethically suspect hiring practices:


If the college�s own hiring numbers suggest no need for this untested scheme, then why has Brooklyn College embraced it? The administration apparently believes that hiring more minorities will further its goal � pursued through a variety of questionable means over the past three years � of creating an ideologically homogeneous faculty.
This is an institution, after all, where the provost, Roberta Matthews, maintaining that �teaching is a political act,� has advocated restructuring the curriculum in order to train �global citizens.�

To clarify the concept, a document recently distributed by Ms. Matthews stated that �global� � as opposed, apparently, to American � citizens are those sensitized to �concepts of race, class, and gender.�

On another front, the administration endorsed a written testament from a senior women�s history professor � whose Web site affirms her belief in combining scholarship with �activism� for �assorted radical causes� � condemning as �old-fashioned� those who teach �political history, focused on figures in power.�

One job candidate, Sean McMeekin, recalled that this professor interviewed him not about his impressively reviewed scholarship but instead about the appropriateness of his having written for a conservative Christian webzine.

Not only did this ideological profiling pass without rebuke, but the Brooklyn College president, C. M. Kimmich, recently used his powers under CUNY�s bylaws to install the professor on the department�s personnel committee, where she can ensure that future hires conform to her ideological agenda.


Johnson also notes that Brooklyn College's current hiring policy requires white men--and only white men--to demonstrate a "commitment to furthering diversity."
posted on July 30, 2004 07:33 AM








Comments:

You know what practical effect this has? As someone who sees a fair amount of resumes floating across his desk, I will certainly look more carefully and skeptically at the credentials a Brooklyn College grad is presenting. I will wonder how their education and preparation has been degraded. The BC people have to understand that there are real ramifications to their decisions to "further diversity" at the expense of hiring the most qualified professors. These ramifications will be felt by their graduates in the market place.

Posted by: RP at July 30, 2004 07:48 AM



I am a white male, 55 years old. I was born into poverty and ignorance beyond most of your imaginations. I am the first member of my extended family to graduate from a four year college. There is no black person in the U.S. born to more humble origins. I guarantee this to you.

And, yet, I've been told to step back throughout my life and accept that blacks, gays and women have preference over me. The results are tangible. The quota system has taken job after job away from me, or consigned me to a lower ranking job than I would otherwise have held. If I voice a complaint, or even a whisper that I also need a job and equal opportunity, I am invariably slandered as a bigot. I am not even allowed to defend myself.

No self pity here. I've done very well, but I haven't done as well as I should have. Considerable professional stature has been denied to me. This has hurt my extended family in ways that are hard to define. And before you start screaming "bigot" at me, are you willing to sacrifice your job for the advancement of a woman, black or gay? I've noticed that those who persist in volunteering me for this sacrifice do not intend to sacrifice themselves.

Posted by: Stephen at July 30, 2004 08:54 AM



The whole system's a joke. Makes me thank God I'm a woman. If the places I apply to for a job hires a less-qualified minority man, I plan to show them what indoctrination in "affirmative action" does--I'll scream sexual discrimination.

I don't think they'd understand that I was mocking them. Unfortunately.

Posted by: holly at July 30, 2004 09:14 AM



Brooklyn College administrators are of a certain ideology which is highly antagonistic to white males. This ideology has taken over the democratic party in america, and we see many white males--even union members--fleeing the democratic party as a result.

What I am saying is that this is much bigger than Brooklyn College. The same thing is happening in most federal government agencies, and many state and local government agencies. Even AT&T and its corporate sisters are sacrificing merit for the sake of "diversity" in its promotions, hires, and retentions.

Posted by: Marvin at July 30, 2004 02:00 PM



Surely the taxpayers of New York City could do better with a tax cut than with the continued existence of this obviously unnecessary and pointless institution for leftist patronage and indoctrination? Not that I expect anyone there to actually suggest the idea.

Posted by: Dave J at July 30, 2004 02:24 PM



cuny is one of the few public university systems that is truly affordable and accessible to those who could not otherwise obtain a four-year college education because of family/financial responsibilities. that alone should be worth the little bit of nyc taxpayer money that is directed towards its colleges.

Posted by: bunny at July 30, 2004 04:02 PM



"cuny is one of the few public university systems that is truly affordable and accessible to those who could not otherwise obtain a four-year college education because of family/financial responsibilities. that alone should be worth the little bit of nyc taxpayer money that is directed towards its colleges."

If it is truly affordble and accessible and gives out worthless diplomas and does not give a good education, then what good is it. If you have a chance of buying a car for $5000 that will be guaranteed to break down every day or at the times when you really need a car, would it make you feel better that the car was cheap? That is what you are advocating. If the education is no better than you can get at a diploma mill from one of the Spam documents that I keep getting in my email, then I think I can get the diploma from them even cheaper than from CUNY and I won't have to raise the taxes to do it.

Posted by: dick at July 30, 2004 04:22 PM



"[H]iring more minorities will further its goal � pursued through a variety of questionable means over the past three years � of creating an ideologically homogeneous faculty."

I find it to be a fairly racist assumption to believe that minority = ideology. Is the assumption, then, that all minorities are ideologically different than the white males who must prove their "commitment to furthering diversity"?

What, then, do we do with conservative (the meaning of which has been discussed here in depth) minorities? Sweep them under the rug and pretend there are not any in order to further this agenda?

Posted by: Mo at July 31, 2004 12:43 PM



I wonder what the former provost of Stanford University would have to say about this. Of course, she's moved on to a post in the current Washington administration, so undoubtedly her word would be suspect.

Posted by: Kevin Walzer at July 31, 2004 01:53 PM



dick,
my cuny degree has served me pretty well and enabled me to get through my phd (from a highly-ranked, non-cuny, and rather right-leaning school) without ever having to worry about student debt. most of my cuny classmates are likewise doing quite well in top law schools and phd programs around the country - schools they could not have dreamed of going to without access to a fine undergraduate program that would neither drain their finances nor prevent them from pursuing full-time work and school simultaneously.
furthermore, nyc taxes would be high regardless - cuny's share of the total city budget is hardly a burden to taxpayers.

Posted by: bunny at July 31, 2004 10:32 PM



"nyc taxes would be high regardless - cuny's share of the total city budget is hardly a burden to taxpayers."

To paraphrase the immortal words of Everett Dirksen: a million here, a million there, and pretty soon you're talking about real money. NYC's municipal workforce is an eighth the size of the federal government's, to serve a population orders of magnitude smaller. I certainly never meant my comment to be understood as either the only or the primary way to reduce that burden: eliminating rent control (which would cause a residential building boom) and selling off vacant city properties would really be the first places to start.

Moreover, I didn't suggest doing away with all of CUNY, just Brooklyn College.

Posted by: Dave J at August 1, 2004 11:18 AM



Mo, do you seriously believe that BC is going to hire conservative minorities? The Roberta Matthews of the world attack them as "oreos" and "race traitors." This is about power and ideological conformity. The PC crowd just hides behind racial "diversity" to get their like minded cronies a tax supported sinecure.

It is the race quotas of the neo-Marxists that view all minorities as just interchangable ciphers. Conservative minority scholars have to find work in the same place as white male conservatives, in private think tanks.

Posted by: Live White Male at August 1, 2004 03:06 PM



The extremists who control BC come from the John Kerry generation, who vowed back in the 60s to take over the universities. And they kept their word. They also vowed to take over the government, and this November they aim to keep their word again.

Posted by: JJ at August 2, 2004 02:52 PM

Anonymous said...

If Piot is able to publish his screed in an academic journal, all I can say is that it will be a typical "angry studies" journal for which the standards for publishing are having words printed on paper. I guess Duke accepts this nonsense.

By the way, in the "real" studies departments, such as biology and economics, one actually must write something that has some rigor and logical thought processes involved. Guess Piot would be left out of anything like that.

Anonymous said...

Has Bill Anderson published anything (that is besides right wring polemics at the Ludwig von Mises Institute)? Why is he still an assistant prof at Frostburg State? He was listed as an assistant prof at North Greenville College back in 1999. Most people are tenured in six years.

Anonymous said...

To Anon 8:47,

Just a clarification, the BC I was referring to was Boston College. But I am most interested in college hiring practices and politics, so thank you for that comment!

Oh, and Heather MacDonald's articles on Harvard's Faustian bargain and Sean Bell were excellent.

Observer

Anonymous said...

6:52 is not Polanski

I've got deadlines; will respond in 120 min

Polanski

Anonymous said...

To: 8:57pm
From: 4:03pm & 7:14pm

What's your point? I can read what BA writes since it's available on the web. I cannot read Piot's remarks since he's hiding them behind incredible excuses. How does BA's tenure record enter this picture? Do you need to know my CV as well?

Anonymous said...

9:14:

A list of Piot's publications:

Books

C. Piot. Remotely Global: Village Modernity in West Africa. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1999. (Co-winner, Amaury Talbot Prize for Africanist Anthropology, Royal Anthropological Institute, 1999; Finalist, Herskovits Prize, African Studies Association, 2000; French translation - "Isolement Global: la Modernite du Village en Afrique de l'Ouest" - forthcoming from Karthala Press, 2007).

Published Articles

C.D. Piot. "Asylum and Culture: Comments on Khanna and Noll." Texas International Law Journal vol. 41 no. 3 ( 2006.): 503-06.
C. Piot. "An African Postcolony in the Age of Empire." Antropologi [Journal of the Finnish Anthropological Society] vol. 29 no. 1 ( 2004.): 20-27.
C. Piot. "Heat on the Street: Video Violence in American Teen Culture." Journal of Postcolonial Studies vol. 6 no. 3 ( 2003.): 351-365.
C. Piot. "Des cosmopolites dans la brousse." Les Temps Modernes vol. 57 no. 620-21 ( 2002.): 240-260.
C. Piot. ""Réponse Aux Critiques"." Politique Africaine vol. 82 ( 2001.): 206-210. (Response to 3 reviews of Remotely Global)
C. Piot. "Editorial: "Of Revelation and Revolution"." Interventions: International Journal of Postcolonial Studies vol. 3 no. 1 ( 2001.): 1-4.
C. Piot. "Of Hybridity, Modernity and their Malcontents: Reflections on John and Jean Comaroff's "Of Revelation and Revolution"." Interventions: International Journal of Postcolonial Studies, Vol. 2 vol. 3 no. 1 ( 2001.): 112-118.
C. Piot. "Atlantic Aporias: Africa and Gilroy's Black Atlantic." South Atlantic Quarterly vol. 100 no. 1 ( 2001.): 155-170.

Happy reading.

Anonymous said...

to 6:16:

i'm not sure that you have a choice but to live in this world. the world i described was durham, 2006. it was the world of la when oj, an obviously guilty person, was aquitted by a jury made up of black people. and perhaps, though the facts aren't in, the world of durham last weekend when a white woman went to a black fraternity and claims she was raped. well, if she was raped, like i said earlier, she would have been better off with a healthy dose of that dangerous racism that we all fear.

live and learn i guess.

WINDBAG

Anonymous said...

to 8:07:

Thanks for the link. now, to the point i made. can you deny what i said is true? of course you can't. it is true.

other than name calling, can you offer anything in the way of thought or analysis that deviates from that which we've already heard over and over . . . "we should realize mlk's dream" "racism is evil" "all people are the same" blah, blah, blah.

WINDBAG
#8 PRINCE ALBERT STREET
BERLIN, GERMANY

Gary Packwood said...

8:14 PM

I just don't agree. This is not about race.

I knew about this case for months and paid no attention until Reade mentioned on television, that his professors was saying dreadful things about the three Lacrosse athletes.

That got my attention and quickly.

People are screaming about race problems so often anymore I just don't pay attention unless I hear a solution presented for discussion.

I live in Houston and have attended meetings where Katrina survivors stand up and tell the world that white people blew up the levies in New Orleans and ...'evidence' is not needed to know that ....the change of white sabotage is true and correct.

Many of those meetings took place on the campus of our AAABlack University here which is about to go down the tubes. The president, a Ph.D. in financial accounting, was arrested for financial fraud several months ago...and she was hired back to teach until someone with a brain brought a halt to that decision.

They have a retired military General at the helm now.

No, not race! This is all about faculty NOT supporting their students and faculty standing in front of cameras and microphones harming their students all the while ... President Broadhead was walking around talked about Boorish behavior.

Boorish?

Gary Packwood said...

Last Saturday Night

Lets find out if the young Woman who was allegedly raped last week is in stable mental and physical health and if she is a Duke University student.

Hearing absolutely nothing is not a good thing for people who care.

Also, if she is a student, can we find out if she was taking one of those G88 courses where the students are required to go out into the community and do 'field research' in odd places ...for a grade?

Anonymous said...

WINDBAG

I do love Prince Albert Street (but shouldn't it be number 69?)!

Like the other person who responded to you, I live in a different world than you, one in which people from various racial and ethnic categories regularly have very positive interactions. You are correct that the strippers and the lacrosse players would have been better off had they never met, but you can use that sort of logic to make it so that no human interaction can ever exist. I would venture to say that most white/black interaction is positive, just like most intraracial interaction is positive. Some interactions, however, have disasterous results. That does not mean that we never leave our houses.

Anonymous said...

The funniest thing about black people and what makes them look so stupid and childish is how they grasp onto the "N" word.
It's like a gold credit card for them as they try to attack and extort anyone who uses it.
What the hell do I care about a bunch of ignorant blacks who like to call other people honkie and cracker and hymie, etc...?
I think a good dose of ass-kicking would be a good thing. Kick those destructive and worthless people back to where the sun doesn't shine. I'm just sick of their troublesome black asses. Very few contributions do they make to this society.

Anonymous said...

to 9:45:

all fine points. couldn't agree more. the point i have been trying to get people to discuss is this idea that racism, whatever it might be, is or is not wrong. i merely put forward the thought that perhaps some racist thinking that fateful night in march might have saved us all from this sorry episode. and if it had, would that racism be "wrong" or "immoral".

people have been tossing the r word around like a grenade and people have been running from it. my job as the devil's advocate is to pose hypos which might make the bad look good. i believe its worth thinking about and maybe we dismiss the notion in the end, but otherwise we just spit out the same politically correct crap without critical thought.

WINDBAG

Anonymous said...

WINDBAG

Why do you think the key factor in the bad decision to let her in was race? A white stripper could have done the same thing. And a black woman that they knew is not likely to have accused them of rape. I think the key here is that they invited a stranger into the house, and that always has certain dangers associated with it. Nonetheless, even in that situation, a rape accusation would be rare.

Anonymous said...

Thank god the new supreme court is unlikely to accept race quotas and racial privileges.

I'm pretty sure that official Black Race Preferences (makes no sense to call it affirmative action) will end soon. However, unofficial race preferences will continue. For example, skin color is not directly used, but if you have experiences in african american culture or your last name is hernandez, you will get accepted. Gang88 and their ilk are in charge of the selection process and they surely know how to eliminate white males (especially conservative white male athletes).

Gary Packwood said...

WINDBAG 10:01 PM

Sure... why not talk about race in a different light with respect to the events of last March.

50 years ago a business person who owned an 'escort service' would never EVER send out two AA Black women to a bunch of young white athletes.

That would end future business relationships with those customers in a heart beat.

Somehow that business person must have thought it OK to send out AA Black women last March and somehow the guys did not know what to do with AA Black women instead of the White and Latino girls they asked for ...without being yelled at ...as being racist.

Is that what you are after, WINDBAG?

I wondered who told the escort service to send the AA Black Women?
You suppose the 'escort service' owner is that much of a risk taker to not 'fill the order' as requested? That does not sound like American business people to me.

Anonymous said...

windbag @ 8:00 is hilarious.
Good one.

Anonymous said...

To: 9:24

So, Piot has published in his career. That was not in question. How about the remarks at the meeting that we all want to see? Or even better, how about the video?

Anonymous said...

10:24--Bill Anderson was questioning Piot's scholarship. I questioned Bill Anderson's scholarship and you responded to my post. I then suggested that you read Piot's work. Anderson still has produced nothing and likely has simply run away. Perhaps I'm wrong, but it remains to be seen.

Anonymous said...

10:12:

okay, let's take your hypo and sub in just a few of the facts from this case to see if we think it would have made great press if the stripper were white.

Nifong: "I'm not going to let the view of durham in they eyes of the world be a bunch of white hooligan lax player rape a white girl"

New Black Panthers showing up for a white stripper's allegation of rape.

Jesse Jackson offering to pay the expenses of a white stripper.

Forum at NCCU for white stripper's allegation of rape.

Houston Baker's rant about white male privilege if the stripper were white.

i could keep going, but i don't think i need to.

WINDBAG

Anonymous said...

WINDBAG

I'm not convinced. I don't think the same story would have developed, but Nifong could still have used the story against the players (Duke vs. Durham makes a good political story for him). In any case, I think the initial horror for them was to be accused of rape. That could have happened with any stranger (more likely with a woman) invited into the house. However, you are absolutely correct that it would not have become the same media circus if this had been a white stripper.

Anonymous said...

10:28

Nice try. I am not BA and I don't care about his CV. I think he can take care of himself.

I do get irritated, however, when academics wave around their credentials to imply that they are smarter than ordinary folks. It gives a bad rep to the lot of us.

I have tenure at an elite institution. Yet, I think it is totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.

Now, can we see the video or the transcript of the remarks Piot made at the meeting?

Anonymous said...

Gary Packwood

You're just out to lunch, buddy. Better stay in Texas. Where we live old Mike Nifong created this mess because of one thing and only one thing. Race.
Don't play dumb. Most of us have positive relationships with people of various backgrounds as well. No problem. But this case has uncovered a spirit and a racist mindset within the black community that surprised a lot of people.
Democrats have had a hard time keeping their black racists under wraps, but they have to come to grips with what is in their own party.
This lacrosse case is about RACE only.

On another topic, Charles Piot the Duke anthropology professor looks like a fugitive from a health food store. He's probably also as gay as a New Year's Eve party.
Ho-hum.

Anonymous said...

10:38

If I were them, I would show the videotape to the world, but I'm not. And I was not waving around anybody's credentials. I was simply responding to a critique of one individual's credentials by showing that individual's credentials. As you know, faculty at elite institutions constantly face rigorous questions, so I find it hard to believe that Piot is hiding his argument. It's possible that they are hiding their faces, assuming that they have really received threats.

Anonymous said...

9:24 Thank you sir. Do you have links to these articles? On your web site? Duke web site?

Many thanks. Transparency, it's a start.

Anonymous said...

10:46--I don't have a website. Most towns have libraries, where you can get the books. Most journals are available through various sites: JSTOR, Academic Search, Project Muse. I'm sure Piot would be happy to send you electronic copies if he has them.

Anonymous said...

10:45

Not plausible. They keep making themselves visible because they want to -- and there are no threats as far as I know.

The problem is that they seem to want to control what cannot be controlled. And they do wave their credentials. The more they do, the more they will be questioned. In my book, Piot's reluctance to publish his remarks and the lame excuse he made up make his scholarship fair game.

He as much as admitted that the remarks cannot possibly be subject to a serious refereeng process. How do we know that the rest of his CV is not the product of the same process? I don't know the standards in his field. All I know is that his recent behavior is not that of a scholar.

Anonymous said...

Here are Ann Allison's. Does this inspire you to creater things? Why aren't these linked so everyone may read their work?

How about shelling out $46,000. Actually it will cost you around $200,000, adjusting for inflation...

Ann Allison publications
A. Allison, American Geishas and Oriental/ist Fantasies, in Media, Transnationalism, and Asian Erotics, edited by Purnima Mankekar and Louisa Schein (Spring, 2008) .
A. Allison, Mobile Dreamworlds and Virtual Intimacy: Pokemon as Symptom of Postindustrial Youth Culture, Emerging Worlds of Anime and Manga, Mechademia, vol. 1 no. 1 (November, 2006), pp. 11-22, University of Minnesota Press .
A. Allison, New-Age Fetishes, Monsters, and Friends: Pokemon in an Age of Millennial Capitalism, in Japan After Japan: Social and Cultural Life from the Recessionary 1990s to the Present, edited by Tomiko Yoda and Harry Harootunian (Fall, 2006), Duke University Press .
A. Allison, The Japan Fad in Global Youth Culture and Millennial Capitalism, Emerging Worlds of Anime and Manga, edited by Frenchy Lunning, Mechademia, vol. 1 no. 1 (2006), pp. 11-22, University of Minnesota Press .

Anonymous said...

10:54--See my post at 9:24. You and I agree that you have a right to check Piot's credentials.

Anonymous said...

L.D.Baker Publications

Missionary Position...now that is scholarly...

"L.D. Baker, Transforming Anthropology, vol. 14 no. 2 (October, 2006) .
L.D. Baker, Mad or Meditative in Maricopa, Transforming Anthropology, vol. 14 no. 2 (October, 2006), pp. 129-131 .
L.D. Baker, 2006 Defining Crime, The State of Things, WUNC National Public Radio July 29 (July 29, 2006) [view] .
L.D. Baker, Hate Crime, Plain and Simple, Durham Herald Sun (June 19, 2006), pp. A6 [html] .
L.D. Baker, 2006 Black Faculty at Duke, The State of Things, WUNC National Public Radio June 15 (June 15, 2006) [view] .
L.D. Baker, Transforming Anthropology, vol. 14 no. 1 (April, 2006) .
L.D. Baker, Thinking Through Genre, Transforming Anthropology, vol. 14 no. 1 (April, 2006), pp. 1 .
L.D. Baker, Missionary Positions., in Globalization and RaceTransformations in the Cultural Production of Blackness., edited by Kamari M. Clarke, and Deborah A. Thomas, eds. (2006), pp. Pp. 37-54., Duke University Press [pdf] ."

Anonymous said...

10:58--You don't have a library?

Anonymous said...

Publications of Karla FC Holloway

Books

BookMarks: Reading in Black and White--A Memoir (2006), Rutgers University Press .
Passed On: African American Mourning Stories (2002), Duke UP (2nd printing (2002); paperback (2003).) .
Codes of Conduct: Race, Ethics, and the Color of Our Character (1995), New Brunswick, NJ: Rutgers UP .
Moorings and Metaphors: Figures of Culture and Gender in Black Women's Literature (1992), New Brunswick, NJ: Rutgers UP .
The Character of the Word: The Texts of Zora Neale Hurston (1987), Westport, CT: Greenwood Press .
New Dimensions of Spirituality: A BiRacial and BiCultural Reading of the Novels of Toni Morrison (1987), Westport, CT: Greenwood Press (with S. Demetrakopoulos.) .
Essays/Articles/Chapters in Books

Cruel Enough to Stop the Blood: Global Feminisms and the U.S. Body Politic, or: 'They Done Taken My Blues and Gone', Meridians: feminism, race, transnationalism, vol. 7 no. 1 (forthcoming Fall, 2006) .
Coda: Bodies of Evidence, http://www.barnard.edu/sfonline/, edited by Janet Jakobsen, S&F (Scholar and Feminist) Online, vol. 4 no. 3 (Summer, 2006), Barnard College .
Don't Discount DNA Dangers, Raleigh News and Observer (March, 2006) .
W.E.B.DuBois and The Right to Privacy, Annals of Scholarship (forthcoming 2006) .
Foreword: On Monuments and Documents, in Uncrowned Queens: African American Community Leaders of Western New York, vol. 3 (2006) .
The "R" Word: Bioethics and a (Dis)Regard of Race, American Journal of Bioethics, vol. 6 no. 3 (2006) .
Accidental Communities: Race, Emergency Medicine and the Problem of Polyheme, The American Journal of Bioethics, vol. 6 no. 3 (2006), Taylor and Francis .
The Race for Theory, in Literature on the Move: Comparing Diasporic Ethnicities in Europe and the Americas, edited by Dominique Marcais, et al, vol. 97 (Winter, 2002), pp. 347-354, Heidelberg: Universitaetsverlag Carl .
The Death of Culture, The Massachusetts Review (Spring, 1999), pp. 31-41 .
Narrative Time/Spiritual Text, in Faulkner/Morrison, Morrison/Faulkner, edited by C. Kolmerten, S. Ross, and J. Wittenberg (1997), UP of Missisippi .
Cultural Narratives Passed On: African American Mourning Stories, College English, vol. 59 no. 1 (Jan. 1997), pp. 32-40 .
My Tongue is In My Friend's Mouth, in Talking Gender: Public Images, Personal Journeys, and Political Critiques (1996), pp. 124-37, U of North Carolina P .
The Body Politic, in Subjects and Citizens: From Ooronoko to Anita Hill, edited by C. Davidson and M. Moon (1995), pp. 481-97, Durham: Duke UP .
The Lyrical Dimensions of Spirituality, in Embodied Voices: Female Vocality in Western Culture, edited by N. Jones and L. Dunn, eds. (1994), Cambridge, UK: Cambridge UP .
Language, Culture, and the Implications of Assessment, in Alternative Perspectives in Children's Language and Literacy, edited by D. Bloome, et al. (1994), pp. 11-21, New Jersey: Ablex Publishing Corp. .
Cultural Politics in the Academic Community: Masking the Color Line, College English, vol. 55 no. 6 (Oct. 1993), pp. 610-17 .
Economies of Space: Markets and Marketability in Our Nig and Iola Leroy, in The (Other) American Traditions: 19th Century American Women, edited by Joyce Warren (1992), pp. 126-40, New Brunswick, NJ: Rutgers UP .
Holy Heat: Rituals of the Spirit in Zora Neale Hurston's Their Eyes Were Watching God, Journal of Religion and Literature, vol. 23 no. 3 (Autumn 1991), pp. 127-41 .
Beloved: A Spiritual, Callaloo, vol. 13 no. 3 (Fall 1990), pp. 516-25 .

Anonymous said...

No one threatened these dolts at Duke. They need to make all this up the same way Lubiano made up quotes for the infamous attack ad.
These people are really like criminals.

Anonymous said...

Publications of Mark Anthony Neal

Books

Mark Anthony Neal, New Black Man (April, 2005), Routledge (Reviews: The Washington Post, May 22, 2005; Chicago Sun-Times, May 29, 2005; Free Inquiry, August/September 2005, 55; Journal of American Culture, December 2005, Vol. 28 Issue 4, 448-449;.) [resources.asp] .
Mark Anthony Neal and Murray Forman (co-editors), That's the Joint!: The Hip-Hop Studies Reader (September, 2004), Routledge (Reviews: The Boston Globe October 7, 2004 http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/arti cles/2004/10/07/scholars_capture_essence_of_ hip_hop/ The Dallas Morning News November 26, 2004 http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/ fea/entertainment/stories/112704dnlivbooks.3 f7fd.html.) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Songs in the Key of Black Life: A Rhythm and Blues Nation (June, 2003), Routledge (Taylor and Francis) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Soul Babies: Black Popular Culture and the Post-Soul Aesthetic (March, 2002), Routledge (Taylor and Francis) .
Mark Anthony Neal, What the Music Said: Black Popular Music and Black Public Culture (October, 1998), Routledge (Taylor and Francis) .
Essays, Articles, Chapters in Books

Mark Anthony Neal, “Bringing Up Daddy: A Progressive Black Masculine Fatherhood”, in Progressive Black Masculinities?, edited by Athena D. Mutua (September, 2006), Routledge [product_detail.asp] .
Mark Anthony Neal, “Race-ing Katrina”, Transforming Anthropology, vol. 14 no. 1 (April, 2006) .
Mark Anthony Neal, "Post-Soul Resistance: Black Popular Music in the Post-Soul Era", in African-American Music: A History, edited by Portia Maultsby and Mellonee V. Burnim (October, 2005), pp. 704, Routledge [product_detail.asp] .
Mark Anthony Neal, "White Chocolate: Teena Marie and Lewis Taylor", POPULAR MUSIC, vol. 24 no. 3 (October, 2005), Cambridge .
Mark Anthony Neal, "The Tortured Soul of Marvin Gaye and R. Kelly", in Da Capo Best Music Writing 2004, edited by Mickey Hart (October, 2004), Da Capo Press .
Mark Anthony Neal, "Aretha Franklin", in African American National Biography, edited by Henry Louis Gates, Jr. and Evelyn Higginbotham (Summer, 2004), Oxford University Press .
Mark Anthony Neal, "Ray Charles", in African American National Biography, edited by Henry Louis Gates, Jr. and Evelyn Higginbotham (Summer, 2004), Oxford University Press .
Mark Anthony Neal, “Up from Hustling: Power, Plantations and the Hip-Hop Mogul”, Socialism and Democracy 26, vol. 18 no. 2 (June- December 2004) .
Mark Anthony Neal, "A Way Out of No Way: Jazz, Hip Hop and Black Social Improvisation", in The Other Side of Nowhere: Jazz, Improvisation, and Communities in Dialogue, edited by Ajay Heble and Daniel Fischlin (Spring, 2004), Wesleyan .
Mark Anthony Neal, "Strange Bedfellows: Why is Michael Jackson allying himself with the Nation of Islam?", The New Republic (January 12, 2004) (URL: https://ssl.tnr.com/p/docsub.mhtml? i=express&s=neal011204.) .
Mark Anthony Neal, The Birth of New Blackness: The Family Stand's Moon in Scorpio, in Rip It Up: The Black Experience in Rock N' Roll, edited by Kandia Crazy Horse (January 3, 2004), Palgrave Macmillan .
Book Reviews

Mark Anthony Neal, From Black Power to Hip-Hop: Racism, Nationalism and Feminism by Patricia Hill-Collins, Ms. Magazine (Winter, 2006) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Bloodbeats: Vol. 1—Demos, Remixes & Extended Versions (Redbone Press) by Ernest Hardy, SEEINGBLACK.COM (July 11, 2006) [article_61.shtml] .
Imani Perry, Prophets of the Hood: Politics and Poetics in Hip-Hop, AOL BLACK VOICES (February, 2005) [20050202] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Race Music: Black Cultures from Be-Bop to Hip-Hop (University of California) by Guthrie P. Ramsey, ECHO: A Music Centered Journal, vol. 6 no. 1 (Fall, 2004) (URL: http://www.echo.ucla.edu/volume6- issue1/reviews/neal.html.) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Check It While I Wreck It: Black Womanhood, Hip-Hop Culture, and the Public Sphere (Wesleyan) by Gwendolyn Pough, Africana.com (August 12, 2004), AOL Time Warner (URL: http://www.africana.com/articles/daily/mu200 40809pass.asp.) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Stand & Deliver: Political Activism, Leadership, and Hip-Hop Culture (Soft Skull Press) by Yvonne Bynoe, Popmatters: The Magazine of Global Culture (August 10, 2004) (URL: http://www.popmatters.com/books/reviews/s/st and-and-deliver.shtml.) .
Other

Mark Anthony Neal, It's Your Nigger Problem, Not Hip-Hop's, BLACK AGENDA REPORT (December 6, 2006) [php] .
Mark Anthony Neal, My Passport Says Shawn: Trafficking in Monikers, SEEINGBLACK.COM (November 26, 2006) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Rape Not in Black and White, SEEINGBLACK.COM (October 16, 2006) [article_86.shtml] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Good 'Game Theory', SEEINGBLACK.COM (October 16, 2006) [article_83.shtml] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Black Macho Disturbed, SEEINGBLACK.COM (July 21, 2006) [article_59.shtml] .
Mark Anthony Neal, (White) Male Privilege, Black Respectability, and Black Women's Bodies, THE BLACK COMMENTATOR (April 20, 2006) [html] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Kanye Walks: Hip-Hop and Spirituality, POPMATTERS: A GLOBAL MAGAZINE OF CULTURE (February 2, 2006) [060202-kanyewest.shtml] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Freedom Summer Remembered: A Conversation with Denise Nicholas, THE BACKLIST—A PUBLISHING AND LITERARY NEWSLETTER OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN INTEREST (October, 2005) [html] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Race-ing Katrina, POPMATTERS: A GLOBAL MAGAZINE OF CULTURE (September 9, 2005) [available here] .
Mark Anthony Neal, "Rhythm and Bullshit: The Slow Decline of R&B (Rhythm and Blues)", ALTERNET.ORG (July 8, 2005) [available here] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Michael Jackson’s Hidden Accuser: Racism, THE LOS ANGELES TIMES (June 10, 2005) [la-oe-neal10jun10,0,3674933.story] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Critical Noir: Can Hip-Hop Be Feminist?, AOL BLACK VOICES (April 6, 2005), Time Warner [20050330] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Critical Noir: Daughters of the Sister Outsider, AOL BLACK VOICES (March 30, 2005), Time Warner [20050330] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Critical Noir: The Color Purple Controversy Revisited, AOL BLACK VOICES (March 9, 2005), Time Warner [20050309] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Critical Noir: Taking One for the Team—Michele Wallace, AOL BLACK VOICES (March 2, 2005), Time Warner [20050302] .
Mark Anthony Neal, In Defense of Ward Churchill, Pop and Politics (March 1, 2005) [articles_detail.cfm] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Critical Noir: Revolutionary Mixtape—Songs that Made the Movement, AOL BLACK VOICES (February 16, 2005), Time Warner [20050216] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Critical Noir: Songs of the Sad Minstrel, AOL BLACK VOICES (January 12, 2005), Time Warner [20050112] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Critical Noir: A Hustler’s Legacy, AOL BLACK VOICES (January 5, 2005), Time Warner [20050105] .
Mark Anthony Neal, Sambo Must Die, AOL BlackVoices (October 27, 2004), AOL Time Warner (URL: http://bv.channel.aol.com/entmain/music/crit no10604/20041027.) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Songs of Redemption, AOL BlackVoices (September 29, 2004), AOL Time Warner (URL: http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/special4/article. adp?id=20040929165009990004.) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Our Right to Rock, Africana.com (September 2, 2004), AOL Time Warner (URL: http://www.africana.com/articles/daily/mu200 40902rockers.asp.) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Live from Planet Soul: Donny Hathaway and Laura Nyro, Popmatters: the Magazine of Global Culture (August 25, 2004) (URL: http://www.popmatters.com/music/features/040 825-donnyhathaway.shtml.) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Hip-Hop's Gender Problem, Africana.com (May 26, 2004), AOL Time Warner (URL: http://www.africana.com/articles/daily/mu200 40526hipgender.asp.) .
Mark Anthony Neal, The Genius of Donny Hathaway, Africana.com (February 4, 2004), AOL Time warner (URL: http://www.africana.com/articles/daily/mu200 40204hathaway.asp.) .
Mark Anthony Neal, Baby Girl Drama: Remembering Sakia Gunn, Popmatters: the Magazine of Global Culture (January 27, 2004) (URL: http://www.popmatters.com/features/040127- sakiagunn.shtml.) .

Anonymous said...

10:45

BTW, since we are on the subject. Piot got his PhD in 1986. Folks might question his productivity based on the list you provided. In the big leagues we play rough. You do him no favor with smug remarks designed to belittle people like BA who have a much higher teaching load and much less research resources. Serious scholars do not like intellectual bullies.

Anonymous said...

A sampling...this is un-%!@$@% believable. This tripe, most certainly is NOT part of the presentation provided when on tours the campus, pays a fee, and make application. Like Truth-in-Lending, and fraud laws, there should be full disclosure on how much of this crap is put forth. At $46,000 per year this is criminal.

O. Starn, Caddying for the Dalai Lama: Golf, Heritage Tourism and the Pinehurst Resort, South Atlantic Quarterly (Spring, 2006)

K.P. Ewing, Between Cinema and Social Work: Diasporic Turkish Women and the (Dis)Pleasures of Hybridity, Cultural Anthropology, vol. 21 no. 2 (May, 2006), pp. 265-294

Deborah Thomas and Tina Campt, Diasporic Hegemonies: Slavery, Memory, and Genealogies of Diaspora, Transforming Anthropology, vol. 14 no. 2 (October, 2006), pp. 163-172 (Transcribed dialogue between Jacqueline Nassy Brown and Bayo Holsey.) .

J.L. Jackson, Globalizaion, Gentrification, and Georaciality, in Globalization and Race, edited by Deborah Thomas and Kamari Clarke (Forthcoming 2006), Duke University Press .

Anne-Maria B. Makhulu, "The Art and Artifice of Social Reproduction under Neoliberalism: South African Cities after Apartheid", in Creativity Beyond Crisis? Perspectives on the Politics of Agency in Africa, The University of California International and Area Studies Digital Collection, (also published in hardcopy), edited by Beth A. Buggenhagen, Stephen Jackson, and Anne-Maria B. Makhulu (Fall, 2007), University of California Press (Under Review.)

with Madina Tlostanova, Double Critique: Knowledges and Scholars at Risk in Post-Soviet Societies, edited by Walter Mignolo and Madina Tlostanova, South Atlantic Quarterly, vol. 105 no. 3 (July, 2006), pp. 479-662

W.D. Mignolo, Op-ed: “Nationalization of Natural Gas in Bolivia”, Resources Center of the Americas.Org (June 2006)

W.M. Reddy, Emotional Styles and Modern Forms of Life, in Emotional Intelligence and Elites: Sex, Gender and the Brain, edited by Malte Gruber and Nicole Karafyllis (2007), forthcoming

Anonymous said...

Publications of Maurice O Wallace

Books

Constructing the Black Masculine: Identity and Ideology in African American Men's Literature and Culture, 1775-1995 (January, 2002), Duke UP .
Essays/Articles/Chapters in Books

Riveted to the Wall: Covetous Fathers, Devoted Sons, and the Patriarchal Pieties of Herman Melville and Frederick Douglass, edited by Robert Levine and Samuel Otter, Frederick Douglass and Herman Melville: Essays in Relation (forthcoming), University of North Carolina Press .
How a Man Was Made a Slave: Contraband, Chiasmus and the Failure of Visual Abolitionism, ELN: English Language Notes. Special Issue on Race and Photography (in press) .
Politics, Publicness and the Price of the Ticket: James Baldwin and the Public Sphere" ("Prospects for the Study of James Baldwin"), edited by Richard Kopley and Barbara Cantalupo, Prospects for the Study of American Literature (in press), AMS Press .
I AM a Man: Latent Doubt, Public Protest and the Anxious Construction of Black American Manhood, edited by Colin Palmer, Schomburg Studies in the Black Experience (2007), Proquest (electronic essay) .
What Nellie Knew: For Nellie McKay (in memorium), African American Review, vol. 40:1 (Spring, 2006), pp. 33-35 .
Our Tsunami: Race, Religion and Mourning in Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana, Transforming Anthropology, vol. 14 no. 1 (2006), pp. 25-27 .
Foreword, Special Issue, Duke Journal of Gender Law & Policy, vol. 11 no. 1 (2004), pp. 1-6 .
Black Medusa: Psychoanalysis and African American Literature, Journal of African American History (Winter, 2003) .
The Power of Hope in a Season of Despair: A Funeral Sermon, in Passed On: African American Mourning Stories, edited by Karla FC Holloway (2002), pp. 189-92, Duke UP .
'I'm Not Entirely What I Look Like': Richard Wright, James Baldwin and the Hegemony of Vision; Or, Jimmy's FBEye Blues, in James Baldwin Now, edited by Dwight McBride (1999), pp. 289-306, NYU Press .
The Autochoreography of an Ex-Snow Queen: Dance, Desire and the Black Masculine in Melvin Dixon's Vanishing Rooms, in Novel Gazing: Queer Readings in Fiction, edited by Eve Kosovsky Sedgwick (1997), pp. 379-400, Duke UP .
Are We Men?: Prince Hall, Martin Delany and the Masculine Ideal in Black Freemasonry, 1775-1853, American Literary History, vol. 9 no. 3 (1997), pp. 398-424 (Reprinted in National Imaginaries, American Identities, ed. Larry J. Reynolds and Gordon Hutner, Princeton, UP, 2000.) .
James Baldwin, Alvin Ailey, Bill T. Jones/Arnie Zane (individual entries), in Dictionary of Twentieth Culture: African American Culture, edited by Sandra Adell. Manly Inc. (1996) .
Constructing the Black Masculine: Frederick Douglass, Booker T. Washington and the Sublimits of African American Autobiography, in Subjects and Citizens: Nation, Race, and Gender from Oroonoko to Anita Hill, edited by Cathy N. Davidson and Michael Moon (1995), pp. 245-70 (reprinted in No More Separate Spheres! A Next Wave American Studies Reader, eds. Cathy Davidson and Jessamyn Hatcher, Duke UP, 2002, pp. 237-62.) .
Spirituals, in Oxford Companion to Women's Writing in the United States, edited by Linda Wagner-Martin and Cathy Davidson (1994), pp. 841-43, Oxford UP .

Anonymous said...

10:59

I'll go along if we agree that EVERYONE, not just you and I, has the right to question his credentials.

Anonymous said...

11:08--Of course. Now we have our homework. This is just a tiny selection of the works of a few of the 88. Once we've all read their work, we can question their credentials.

Anonymous said...

I stand partially corrected a few of the publication listings have links, though some don't work. One wonders what % of the total courses offered is like this.

Here's an abstract:

K.P. Ewing. "Between Cinema and Social Work: Diasporic Turkish Women and the (Dis)Pleasures of Hybridity." Cultural Anthropology vol. 21 no. 2 (May, 2006.): 265-294.
Abstract:
Against a backdrop of increasingly vocal assertions that Germany’s growing Muslim immigrant population is resisting integration through the development of a “parallel society,” this article demonstrates how German social policy literature, the news media, and cinema converge to naturalize assumptions of cultural difference through a mythological process that generates polarized stereotypes of the cultural practices of Turks in Germany. This discourse freezes the Muslim woman as an oppressed other to the liberated Western woman and generates scripts for the liberation of Turkish women that limit their options by posing multiculturalism, hybridity, or humanistic individualism as the only models for integration. This discourse reinforces the misrecognition of practicing Muslims who are involved in Islamic groups or wear headscarves. I propose an alternative approach that focuses on the practical effects of competing discourses by tracing out ethnographically the micropolitics of everyday life to foreground the multiple positionings and identities that immigrants and their families occupy and to identify how they negotiate the contradictions and inconsistencies they experience. [hybridity, gender, micropolitics, Islam, Europe]

Anonymous said...

11:06--Of course it's possible to question his credentials, once you have read his work. I saw his picture. He doesn't look like an intellectual bully to me. And who are you to say what a serious scholar would or would not do (not that I'm in any position to do so either)?

Anonymous said...

One observation that I find disconcerting...if the pot bangers are so oppressed by "The Man", then how come they have nice copper bottom pans, and fancy snare drums?

Anonymous said...

For some reason the fact that the AAAs web site has black background with ecru (NOT white)text is damn funny to me. The Man must be getting these people every day with white background and black letters. Oh the humanity! Oh the injustice! Too damn funny.

Ecru on black

Anonymous said...

No links to Mr. Wallace's work. What's up with that?

Anonymous said...

KC: the quality of your postings--the restraint, thoroughness and thoughtfulness of your work--contrasts very favorably with the Group of 88/87, Houston Baker, Kim Curtis, Ms. Marcotte, and all the other people who have made this a travesty. All of them have an agenda, with respect to which the facts--and the people to be hurt--are of secondary importance (or perhaps no importance at all).

Thank you for your work on this case.

Anonymous said...

11:12 & 11:16

I am not interested in questioning these folks credentials. Judging by the remarks I have seen so far, there will be plenty of that on this blog without my help.

I am interested in the transcript/video of the intra-mural meeting. If Piot provides a credible story for why we can't see his remarks, I'll be satisfied.

As somebody said earlier, folks want transparency. Surely people with PhDs can understand it.

Anonymous said...

Maurice Wallace

Anonymous said...

In reveiwing these publication listings and the few abstracts, I'm reminded of the joke about the Black Southern Preacher.

One Sunday the prescher has a piccolo player perform. He's terrible and can play a lick.

After several minutes of enduring the bilge, someone yells out the Piccolo player is a mother !@#!@#%.

Stunned the everyone got very quite. The preacher scanned the room and sees one young man looking uneasy, and asks, "Are you the man who called my piccolo player a mother $#%@$#?"

No comes the reply. The Preacher repeats this question several times, until one young man raisess his hand.

The preacher, says, "Thank you son for confessing that you called my piccolo player a mother $#%@$#%."

The young man replies, "Preacher, I'm not the man who called your piccolo player a mother @$#%$#@; I'm not the man next to the man, or the man, next to the man, next to the man who called you piccolo player a mother #$%243."

The preacher asks, "Well son then why did you raise your hand?"

The young man replies, "I want to know who called that mother $#@%@@ a piccolo player."

As such, I want to know who called these people "Scholars"

M. Simon said...

8:31PM,

In an engineering disaster you look at the root cause.

This part failed - why?
The voltage was too high - why?
The regulator output was too high - why?

etc. until you get back to the design failure or production erro of bad management (it always starts there) and you fix every thing that is broken including bad management.

This case is what it is because blacks have been fed on resentment. A big part of that is Angry Studies - if a prof from a respected college says you are getting the shaft for no reason that adds fuel to the fire.

So what is the root of all this anger - blacks don't do well (as a group) in today's America.

So the question is - is whitey still out to keep blacks down - or is it something else?

The angry studies folks - the cultural Marxists will not even look at the "is it something else?" question.

Which is why the question of natural talent came up in the above discussion.

KC thinks it is not germaine. I think it is central.

This whole case is a play on festering resentments. If there was another valid explanation then things could be done to fix it. However, if the finger is always pointed at white racism where there is very little the root cause can never be fixed or ameliorated.

So we are stuck. And this case is the result.

If we can't see the rhino in the room then we will never understand why the flower pots are getting continually smashed.

Jys my 2¢

Anonymous said...

11:16

I am a serious scholar and you sounded like an intellectual bully to me in your 8:57 & 9:24 posts. If that was not your intent. We can shake hands and call it quits.

Anonymous said...

11:35--Perhaps I was a bit snarky, but certainly I did not intend to sound like an intellectual bully. I am always interested in what serious scholars are publishing. Anderson's online works are polemics, but I suspect that he has more serious publications (and if not, I do reserve the right to question his credentials). I have heard Piot speak, and he seems to me a serious scholar. I know nothing about your work, but I trust what you say--you are a serious scholar.

Gary Packwood said...

WINDBAG 10:12

The guys did not get what they asked for...and white male athletes do not usually ask for AA Black Women as dancers.

I called around on that one to be sure that was not just me talking.

Anonymous said...

At $79.95 for a hardback copy of "Constructing the Black Masculine", wouldn't that rate as a hate crime?

Would Durham report it as black on white, or black on black?

$79.95 with free shipping

Anonymous said...

11:34--I like the story of the piccolo player, but I suggest you read at least some of their works before you judge them as scholars.

M. Simon said...

Windbag 9:31PM,

I watched the OJ case every day. You have read my stuff here.

OJ got off because the LAPD was a corrupt incompetent police force.

People laughed at me when I said that. Then the Rampart scandal and folks refused to make the connection.

The LAPD "enhanced the evidence". Or at least the defence made it look that way. I knew about LAPD schenanigans before the OJ case, I think the jurors knew it too.

For people who knew what the LAPD did routinely the defence made a good case. For those who thoght police are honest (Durham any one?) it looked like a travesty of justice.

So let me say this out loud. There is probably not one honest police dept in America. Not one.

Put the question to Bill Anderson. He will give you an ear full.

You know what I told peoople after OJ - you have to clean up the LAPD. I was laugghed at. The Rampart scandal a few years later was only the tip of the ice berg.

Oh well.

M. Simon said...

anon 10:38PM,

You are forgetting one minor detail Jailfong needed the BLACK vote.

A white stripper is not going to do it.

Anonymous said...

M. Simon @ 11:59

I run into similar reactions when I claim the he got off because the defense was way better than the prosecution. Maybe this case will change things and folks will wise up. Are you hopeful?

M. Simon said...

12:03AM,

Not hopeful at all.

This case helps some.

But folks really want to believe in honest police.

Here is the deal: the lower classes get crap the middle and upper classes respect. Simple economics. it is easier to railroad a poor man.

In the town I live in an employee badge fron certain companies will get a lot of stuff overlooked. Happened to me once. I was new at the time and surprised.

"Round up the usual suspects" is the rule of law in America.

Duke is SOP. Just not to folks who can fight back. Jailfong forgot his place.

Anonymous said...

To M. Simon:
I am old enough to remember when my black classmates studied hard and were succeeding--because if they did not, their fathers would have whipped their butts. The Great Society ended that possibility by enabling the single parent scourge that the Moynihan Report documented, and in turn caused the retrenchment of the black underclass. Thus the good intentions of the Great Society, in my opinion, more than any inherent IQ differences, was the primary causal factor.

BTW, like you I had a very leftwing youth. My split began with a rejection of the Weatherman direction, even though I lusted for the SDS chairwoman on my undergrad campus. But I really walked to the right when I entered the world where results matter, and I realized that the "Great Society" and socialism in general simply had failed.

gk

Anonymous said...

11:48, Thank you, I always loved that joke.

I'm not sure I could make it through any of their work as I've fought my way through a few abstracts that are posted. The duty of the message is with the sender, and what I read is gibberish. I was brought up on say what you mean, mean what you say. Circular thought, fuzzy language, invented words,...

Two questions. Why aren't all articles posted and, which would you consider the one must read article of those you posted earlier?

Anonymous said...

6:52PM

Polanski writes

Are you the same asshole that imitated me when I was JC?

Find your own persona, bud.

Anonymous said...

Cedarford,

I'm more creative and more intelligent than Johnson, so I'll make my recommendations whenever I please.

As an editor, Johnson is weak. I try to help out whenever possible. Johnson refused my advice, so now he's stuck with St Martin's Press, the publishing equivalent of a censored fart.

Polanski

Anonymous said...

Patsy McDonald

5:48 PM --

All I can say is, holy smoke. Good on you, woman.

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