Friday, March 16, 2007

CrimeStoppers Poster

By this stage, most people have seen the potbanger-produced "vigilante" poster, which contained the photos of 43 of the 46 white lacrosse players and was widely distributed around campus on March 29--in the highest-profile campus protest before the Group of 88, including newly elected Academic Council Chairwoman Paula McClain, issued its statement saying "thank you" to protesters "for not waiting and for making yourselves heard."

The David Addison-produced CrimeStoppers poster has received less public notice; it seems to have been distributed more in the community rather than on campus. Issued on March 28, it was not modified until April 10--a period of two weeks. To my knowledge, Addison never distributed a poster explaining the reasons for his modification.

Here is a copy.


Anonymous said...

Thak you for your honest, untiring work.

Anonymous said...

As I posted on J in C the board of CS contained Dean Sue and other DUKE admin. folks in 2006. It should be noted: at the initiation of the parents TEAM MEETING, 25 March 2006 12:15 p.m. Dean Sue, J. Alleva, & L Minetta were told to remove the web site " GODUKE.COM men's lacrosse ROSTER, they agreed; this was Saturday afternoon 25 March, as you pointed out the " WANTED" poster wasn't made up until 2-3 days later. If Dean Sue, Larry Minetta, or Joe Alleva did what they agreed to on that afternoon, some of the slanderous conduct that eminated from that poster may not have occured. Not withstanding, ptl. Addison did not have the where with all to access the web site with out the assistence of the CS board of directors.

Anonymous said...

Coach Pressler has broken his silence with an interview at FoxNews. Here's the link:,2933,258969,00.html

BTW, thanks for all of your hard work!

Anonymous said...

Wow - I realise they probably don't have much of a budget, but the production values of that poster are terrible.

If I saw that on a lampost I'd think someone was having a laugh (if the content wasn't so serious) rather than it being an officially sanctioned appeal for information.

Perhaps there's more for the Board to sort out than 'just' the small matter of oversight of what goes out in their name.

Anonymous said...

So the police, before conducting a thorough investigation (still waiting), flat stated that certain illegal acts had occurred and essentially attributed them to the Duke lax team. I'm just glad I don't live in that community and have to depend in any way on local "law enforcement."

Anonymous said...

I see the poster says

"Durham CrimeStoppers will pay CASH for any information leading to an arrest in this case."

If Nifong is finally charged with a crime, I suggest that Prof. Johnson apply for this reward.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand why this is always referred to as a "Crimestoppers" poster. As I read it, it appears to be a Durham Police poster.

It is on Durham PD letterhead.

Durham PD asks for public assistance, and asks that the reader contact Officer Himan with info.

Only at the end does the poster also say that you could also contact Crimestoppers if you want to be anonymous, and Crimestoppers might give you a cash reward too.

Read as a whole, this to me is a Durham Police Department document.

Sorry if this has been discussed before (I'm sure it has!).

- Jim Curry

Anonymous said...

I'm sure this has been discussed before, so I apologize for re-raising this question.

Why is this considered a "Crimestoppers" poster rather than a "Durham Police" poster?

- It is on Durham PD letterhead

- The Durham PD requests assistance and that the public contact Officer Himan with info ("Durham Police needs your assistance...WE are asking...")

- Only at the end does this poster say you can also contact Crimestoppers if you want to be anonymous and maybe get a cash reward.

Read in its totality, this really looks to me like a Durham PD poster. If it was made by Crimestoppers, it sure as heck is deceptive in that regard.

- Jim Curry

Anonymous said...

Is that DPD stationary? I thought DPD said they had nothing to do with the poster?

Anonymous said...

JLS says...,

Thanks for posting this Crime-Stoppers poster. I had not seen it before. I would say with the words Durham PD and a copy of a badge on it, DPD will not be able to escape any liability that attaches to it.

My take on why this poster was put out and then ammended is that this was a simple conspiracy. It was possibly even a "conspiracy" of one or two.

Basically, Nifong took this hoax rather than lose the primary. Mangum started this hoax expecting it to go nowhere to avoid involuntary commitment.

Many in the DPD from the start, starting with Sgt. Shelton knew this was a hoax. [This is why the Duke PD was told it would go no where.] Nifong certainly enlisted a corrupt police officer he knew he could get to do his bidding, Gottlieb, who pressured a young inexperienced investigator to go along.

But this was not a DPD hoax. This was a Nifong hoax. So I suspect after Addison put out this poster, quite naturally given the certainty he was hearing that a crime had happened, a friend of his in DPD clued him in that he and crimestoppers might not want to be that exposed on this. [A DPD spokes person or a crimestoppers liason person generally does not investigate the investigation before acting, they naturally and often correctly believe the police.] I certainly don't believe that anyone say on the Crimestoppers Board said anything because EVERYONE in Durham was taking their lead from Nifong at that point.

Anonymous said...

Just read something by "said Leah Oettinger, an advocate most recently with the Durham Crisis Response Center".

She is piping up on the pro-Crystal Gail Mangum side of this case.

Anyone have any idea where she is from and why she is taking center stage now?

Could we be seeing the beginning of the end of the legal case?

Anonymous said...

Thank you for posting the "CrimeStopper" poster.

It looks like it is a Durham Police poster with the CrimeStoppers numbeer listed as "ALSO" for those who like many in the blogs wish to speak and be anoymous. Based ot the titles given the posting I would have suspected a CrimeStoppers letterhead and their number listed first.

Also Thank you for taking Sean Sue's call.


Anonymous said...

""The word of the victim is sometimes the only hard evidence that you have, and you need to prove that crime beyond a reasonable doubt. If the victim is reluctant, the chances you can achieve a conviction are substantially less," Marquis said.

Victims' advocates caution that even if accusers opts out of telling their story to investigators, ultimately deciding not to pursue the case, that in itself is not a declaration of alleged attackers' innocence.

"She could decide that in the end, it isn't worth going forward. That doesn't mean a crime didn't happen that night," Oettinger said.

The next court date in the Duke lacrosse case is scheduled for May 7. If the timing suggested by the attorney general's office holds, prosecutors will finish the investigation weeks before the case is back in court for that hearing."

That quote is from the tail end of a story at ABC news. The story link is at the top of the Drudge report.

If the victim can't come up with a credible tale of what happened to her, doesn't that explicitly lead to the conclusion that a crime DIDN'T happen? Or is my logic flawed?

Either a crime happened or it didn't. There's no gray area, it's clear cut. Was she raped? Assaulted? Kidnapped? If she can't come up with even a shred of evidence that "something happened" then reasonable people must conclude that NOTHING happened.

Then again, maybe it's just me.

Anonymous said...

Can you say checkmate:


Mike Lee

The Drill SGT said...

I just saw this ABC piece that concludes :

Victims' advocates caution that even if accusers opts out of telling their story to investigators, ultimately deciding not to pursue the case, that in itself is not a declaration of alleged attackers' innocence.

"She could decide that in the end, it isn't worth going forward. That doesn't mean a crime didn't happen that night," Oettinger said.

Anonymous said...

Just when I start thinking that perhaps the case could be dismissed and these guys can get along with their lives, ABC news comes out with garbage like this:

"Victims' advocates caution that even if accusers opts out of telling their story to investigators, ultimately deciding not to pursue the case, that in itself is not a declaration of alleged attackers' innocence.

"She could decide that in the end, it isn't worth going forward. That doesn't mean a crime didn't happen that night," Oettinger said."

Yup, the article had three paragraphs about how the dancers (accuser and Kim Roberts) were refusing to cooperate with the AG's office. Yet it had three whole pages about how the fact that she made up several different stories didn't mean she was lying (or that she decided not to follow through, or that the case was dismissed, etc).

So even if the case is dropped the MSM seems insistent that these rich white boys must be guilty. It doesn't matter how many wholes are in her story.

BTW notice how they whitewash her vastly different stories by claiming she is simply remembering new facts as she goes along. Disgusting.

Anonymous said...

Check out the latest from ABC News. Supposedly, CGM and Kim are no longer cooperating with the DA's on the case:

Anonymous said...

Carolyn says:

That poster is so ugly. But what's even uglier is knowing those innocent young men were not only forced to watch people read those lies but watch people believe them.

Anonymous said...

We all know that, had such a crime really been committed, there would be no end to the ramifications. There would be committees, boards, inquiries convening round the clock to devise schemes, policy-changes, reforms, etc from top-to-bottom. But it turned out to be a hoax in which prosecutors, police, media and academics sought to crucify innocent men. So where are the boards, committees and inquiries to investigate it? How will we prevent it from happening again? The double standards of American public life are grotesque.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Berkeley is hiring its first Vice Chancellor for Equity and Inclusion. Duke Gang88 missed this milestone, but no doubt this mistake will be corrected pretty soon.
The University of California at Berkeley is looking to hire its first Vice Chancellor for Equity and Inclusion, and I think it's about darn time. I'm heartened to know that with this renewed focus on recruiting students and faculty from underrepresented groups, Berkeley's agents will soon be scouring Iowa for devout homeschooled virgin boys. Young men returning from service in Iraq, likewise, may find a warmer reception than they would have received in years past. And no doubt many young parents, as well as retired executives, will soon be submitting their applications to the more equitable and inclusive Cal-Berkeley. Observant pro-war Jews, aspiring Christian filmmakers, chaste young pro-life activists — all are welcome under Berkeley's big tent, right?

Anonymous said...

A pathetic, one-sided story by ABC that makes no attempt to be fair. Guess this is part of the meta-narrative. Someone should do a book just on the media performance in the North Carolina-Nifong rape hoax case.

M. Simon said...

KC the link to the copy is broken. It links back to your page.

Which means you left yje url off.

M. Simon said...

Rechecked. The url is there but when you try to open it in the normal way there is a redirect to this page.

If uou enter it manually in a browser it leads to a blank page.

Interesting no?

M. Simon said...

OK if you right click and do a "save as" it works.

Anonymous said...

Police still gathering evidence in alleged rape tied to De Anza players

Sifting through hours of interviews and dealing with DNA evidence has slowed the investigation into the alleged gang rape of a girl at a De Anza College baseball player's birthday party.

Santa Clara County sheriff's deputies had hoped to wrap up the 2-week-old investigation by the end of the week. However, by Friday, hours of interviews needed to be transcribed and not everyone had submitted DNA samples. It's work that investigators must finish before they take their case to the district attorney's office, where prosecutors will decide whether or not to bring charges.

"I am not surprised that they are taking their time," said defense attorney Steve Clark, a former local prosecutor. "The last thing you want to do is accuse the wrong person. It's hard to un-ring that bell."

And, Clark added, the high-profile rape prosecution of three Duke University lacrosse players that failed last year surely weighs on the minds of investigators and prosecutors.

The article seems laced with the assumption that the lacrosse players are guilty, but what is interesting is that the Duke non-rape with non-penises is having and impact around the country, and might prevent what looks like a genuine rape case from going forward.