Wednesday, July 11, 2007
Finnerty to Loyola
The AP's Aaron Beard is reporting that Collin Finnerty has decided to transfer to lacrosse powerhouse Loyola(MD).
In a statement released to the AP, Finnerty said, "I am excited to be returning to school and look forward to finishing my college career at Loyola . . . Now that I have made my college decision, my life is my own again. I loved Duke and will miss all my friends there, especially my teammates and coaches. They are an unbelievable group of guys who stood behind me from Day One, and I wish them all the best."
Beard also obtained a reaction from John Burness, who commented, "I think each of them [Finnerty and Seligmann] had to make their own decisions about where he wanted to pursue future education. We would've liked to have had them come back to Duke, but we understand they made a different choice."
There's no indication that the administration is engaging in any critical self-reflection as to why students might not have wanted to come back to an institution where dozens of their own professors publicly denounced them.
In a statement released to the AP, Finnerty said, "I am excited to be returning to school and look forward to finishing my college career at Loyola . . . Now that I have made my college decision, my life is my own again. I loved Duke and will miss all my friends there, especially my teammates and coaches. They are an unbelievable group of guys who stood behind me from Day One, and I wish them all the best."
Beard also obtained a reaction from John Burness, who commented, "I think each of them [Finnerty and Seligmann] had to make their own decisions about where he wanted to pursue future education. We would've liked to have had them come back to Duke, but we understand they made a different choice."
There's no indication that the administration is engaging in any critical self-reflection as to why students might not have wanted to come back to an institution where dozens of their own professors publicly denounced them.
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Burness, bassed on the allegations in the Yaeger/Pressler book - that he was responsible for 'off the record' negative commentary about the "Team" to the press - SHOULD BE FIRED !
I'm glad he was accepted to a school that will give him lacrosse and an education. I hope he does well. Burness should be fired. I agree with 12:55
Duke doesn't deserve the Lax 3 kids (or any kids with such character). Not until Duke cleans house and fires morons like Burness and Brodhead.
That Burness is a king sized phony, but he really doesn't hold a candle to the nauseating sniveling liar Brodhead.
Does anyone really believe they care one whit for Finnerty's well being?
You've got to love Collin's Aunt. Here are her comments on A Peter Bailey's editorial.
http://www.webcommentary.com/asp/ShowArticle.asp?id=gaynorm&date=070711
There's no indication that the administration is engaging in any critical self-reflection
Simple physics KC. Try it: It's almost impossible to self-reflect when engaged in covering one's ass.
“A nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people.” — Richard Brodhead?
...nah, John F. Kennedy
“There is something about a Republican that you can only stand him just so long; and on the other hand, there is something about a Democrat that you can’t stand him quite that long.” —Will Rogers
...and there is something about a "progressive/leftist" that makes you want to yak. - No Justice, No Peace
That's the duke way, anyone who knows duke knows that, it is nothing new, the lacrosse case has just put it in the public arena. Prestigious, elite university, oh please!!!!!!
I thought the Finnerty's might consider having Collin go back to Duke once Nifong was confirmed to be out. Can't blame them at all for their decision.
If you're reading, best of luck Collin.
I'm sure Finnerty will do very well at Loyola just as he did at Duke. I would imagine he will also look back fondly at much of his time at Duke....I would also imagine that he will never again set foot in Durham or on the campus at Duke.
What a shame and a black eye for the school and city.
As I've said before, the situation at Duke now is: Solomon "Kill All Honkies" Burnette feels welcome on campus, but Finnerty and Seligmann don't.
Frankly, I'm kinda surprised that CF decided on a school south of the Mason Dixon line. But I wish him and his family all the best. God knows, they deserve it after the last year or so.
"We would've liked to have had them come back to Duke"
Oh really. Where's the "We're sorry, please come back" statement then?
JUST DAMN THE GROUP OF TURDS AT DURHAM . . . JUST THE ADULTS MAN. JUST THE ADULTS . . . .
My school, my beautiful, beautiful school has degenerated into a cess pool that badly needs cleaning. Burness, brodhead, the 88+ all need to go. I have, at my stage in life, done about all I can do...cut off the funds and redirected several students elsewhere. I blog only occasionally now primarily in the interest of maintaining some semblance of control over my blood pressure. I live for the day someone emails me that the feckless stumblebum and his ilk have been disposed of. But that ain't gonna happen, not with the present BOT. I really believe they are, in toto, clueless.
Thanks, kc, for a great job...I'LL check in from time to time.
trinity60
Well I am sending the annual fund 91 cents. 88 plus burness, brodhead, and alleva ("its not about the truth"). Please note lack of caps. BTW, does the BOT have a clue at all?
Maybe I better make it a buck and a quarter.
Finnerty -- Duke's loss, Loyola's gain.
Houston Baker -- Duke's gain, Vanderbilt's loss.
Maryland may be technically south of the Mason-Dixon but it is million miles north of it culturally. To Carolinians, Marylanders are crab-eating Yankees. Good luck to Colin...Duke's loss.
I'm glad he chose a better school, academically and athletically, (not even counting the Duke administration!) than Duke. Duke is a "good" school but Loyola-MD has better reputation anyways.
Best of luck Colin!
Why would ANY white heterosexual male go to Duke? Fully one fifth of the faculty hates them based on those God given characteristics alone.
Why would anyone want to go back,
if their personal property can be rifled through by the DPD - with the apparent approval of Dook U.?
Is any student safe?
Mr. Finnerty made a logical choice.
I'm sure there're others on the Lacrosse team who'll be looking at other schools, as well.
"But that ain't gonna happen, not with the present BOT. I really believe they are, in toto, clueless."
After all the noise? When you're paying out multimillion-dollar judgements, presumably that should make you curious enough to do a half-hour's worth of internet research. Ignorance can't explain their continued support of Brodhead. anyomore than it can explain Brodhead's continued support of the G88. The only reasonable explanation is that they all still believe that in the grand scheme of things, attacking people for being white is the right thing to do.
Ralph
Mayor Carmen DePasto is running the show. Except he ain't mayor,
and he really isn't named Carmen.
That's the "grand scheme of things."
Welcome to Durrhhh!
Good things are happenin' in Durrhhh!
I think that Burness and the administration are both breathing a sigh of relief that Collin is not coming back.
He would have become the poster boy of good against all the evil that Duke attempted. How could Duke make sure he was not at risk from blacks, or the 88. The media would be watching. And then there's the settlement. What if one of the 88 violated it. No, having Collin at Duke for 2 more years would be brutal to them.
I'm sure they feel that the sooner all the lacrosse players of 05-06 are gone, the media will also go away. Their statement today is all PC bull.
Best wishes Collin.
What a deal! Duke loses Collin and Reade and keeps Burness and Brodhead. I hope that the loyal Duke alums take note of this and work hard to take back their alma mater!
KC, this is worth noting. Zogby poll says 58 percent of public thinks political bias by university faculty is a serious problem, with 39 percent believing it is a "very serious" problem.
http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1334
Ralph Phelan said at 2:52 PM,
[first quoting don t. at 2:23 PM] "But that ain't gonna happen, not with the present BOT. I really believe they are, in toto, clueless."
After all the noise? When you're paying out multimillion-dollar judgements, presumably that should make you curious enough to do a half-hour's worth of internet research. Ignorance can't explain their continued support of Brodhead. anyomore than it can explain Brodhead's continued support of the G88. The only reasonable explanation is that they all still believe that in the grand scheme of things, attacking people for being white is the right thing to do.
I still think it's the government that forces universities to hire and keep people like Grant Farred and Houston Baker -- blacks who preach hatred of whites (actually, any non-blacks). Follow the money.
I agree with 2:16 poster:
"Where's the "we're sorry, please come back" statement then?"
Collin and Reade: You made the right decisions. Good luck to you.
Duke07 Mom
I'm sure that the "Gang of 88" are very pleased but Duke is the big loser as far as I'm concerned.
I wish both Collin and Reade only the best.
Colin:
We are proud to have you. Duke's loss, Loyola's gain.
-Esquire-
-Maryland-
-Loyola Alum-
Colin:
We are proud to have you. Duke's loss, Loyola's gain.
-Esquire-
-Maryland-
-Loyola Alum-
Yeah they hate rich white males until fund-raising time! Then it's a different story. I'm a gay man and I really despise how it's become "cool" to knock straight white guys. Actually I never hear gay guys knocking straight guys--it's usually just people in the press and University phonies doing it.As Camille Paglia points out, White males allow us to live our pampered American lifestyles and this is never better illustrated than when a natural disaster occurs. Could you imagine the Group of 88 coming to the rescue after 9/11? Ha--that's almost funny.
BobC
I have heard the horrible news from my department chairman that Ohio State is going to bring Gordon Gee back as president.
I can only hope he doesn't bring Houston Baker along with him from Vandy.
Carolyn says:
Collin, congratulations! You made the right choice going to Loyola! You deserve to have a life of your own!
(If you'd returned to Duke, the Gang and Solomon Burnette would have made sure you didn't have a life period!)
good for Collin - he looks like a really nice kid.
Gee is leaving Vandy? Wow - I do hope Houston leaves - it is time. Houston has a short shelf life at at school now.
I'm so glad to hear about Collin. He has always been the most vulnerable of the three in my eyes. Shy and introspective.
As I have said before, he's so sweet that I could just kiss his cheek off!
Enjoy your new school and team, Collin. They will flourish with your talents on the lacrosse field.
Debrah
Consider this...these guys are likely going to apply to graduate schools at some point in their future. What are the chances they get discriminated against in the review process due to the hoax fraud?
I wish them all the best, but this will have a very, very long shelf-life. One hopes they got more than a pound of flesh.
Good luck, Collin. I hope your future is bright. You made the right decision. All our best!
Collin,
Congratulations to you! You deserve to be somewhere that is a great place and that wants you so badly.Good Luck!! Duke doesn't deserve you anyway. I know your team will miss you a lot.
I was just checking on Houston Baker at Vandy. He was listed as "on leave of absence" for 2006-2007. Wonder why?
It seemed a little strange for a new hire.
6:57 Why is a great question. Anyone from vandy know the answer?
Loyola gets a shout out for making an awesome decision. Colin, I'm glad you are getting a chance to start over and finish at a place that actually wants you there. I hope it's all and more than you are hoping.
Mr. Burness is disingenuous in his statement, you made the right decision as did Reade. You weren't welcome at Duke as exhibited by the administrations' position over the past year and a half. Their loss is Loyola's gain, as is Brown's. Don't look back look forward.
Good luck, Collin. I hope things go well for you at Loyola.
re: 1:22
Thanks for the link. Nice story. And that bit about FERPA and the keycard was interesting. Duke liability I suppose.
I wonder if it is illegal to possess the information as well or only if it is to release it. It looks like it passed through several hands.
Who would have access to the key card information? Any one know anything about the system? This is a mystery.
It would have been foolish for Reade or Collin to even think about returning to Duke.
First and foremost, there are people in Durham who would still like to see them suffer physical pain, and, given a chance, would like to be the one(s) to deliver it. Why would these 2 put themselves in a position where they have to look over their shoulder 24 / 7?
Then there is the question as to why anyone would believe they would give Duke another dime, let alone $100,000, which is what it would cost for 2 more years, after so many of Duke's administration, faculty, and student body turned against them on such flimsy evidence.
Of course, you also have to consider why anyone who has a choice to do otherwise would spend even 5 minutes inside the city limits of Durham.
Face it, Duke, where Reade Seligman and Collin Finnerty are concerned, you and your physical surroundings are not worthy.
"There's no indication that the administration is engaging in any critical self-reflection as to why students might not have wanted to come back to an institution where dozens of their own professors publicly denounced them".
As far as the Duke admin is concerned, this issue is CLOSED. There is nothing more to be said about it, let alone done about it. It had PLENTY to say (and do) when it believed that some of its white students had raped a black woman. It had NOTHING to say (and do) when it was established that a black woman had falsely accused some of its white students.
A shameless double standard that speaks volumes about the racial double standard that prevails in American higher education, among (many) other places.
I'm so glad to hear about Collin. He has always been the most vulnerable of the three in my eyes. Shy and introspective.
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I agree about Collin. He reminded me of the younger Marine charged with murder in "A few good men". I remember the scene when he asks Demi Moore "Maam do you think we'll get to back to our unit when this all gets straightened out?" The poor kid in the movie didn't realize he was part of someone elses agenda. He thought the truth was a good defense. Fortunately for Collin the truth finally was a good enough defense.
My son goes to Uni here in Western Australia - they don't have a LAX team but they do have a poloX team (kind of like lacrosse on ponies) - he reckons maybe if these blokes are any good they'd like scholarships?
Sounds like fun!
No kidding, here, but there's another sport that's...
interesting: underwater hockey.
A real sport. I met a Brit who played it.
(Haven't found any local clubs who play it, though.)
"Colin, I'm glad you are getting a chance to start over and finish at a place that actually wants you there."
Maybe he can persuade some, or better yet a lot, of Duke's current Lacrosse team to transfer to Loyola. I really don't see why any of them would want to hang around the scene of the "Duke la-Cross Gurning."
Arrgghh. Forgot to preview.
Duke la-Cross Burning
Okay, WAY completely off-topic (except to any Duke Lacrosse players who might want to decamp to Oz on scholarship...)
Um, Mac, I'm not kidding about poloX - it is a "real" sport... Our first club was est. 1939. Underwater hockey or pool hockey is more of just a social game (here at least, who knows what the POMs do?). The two main sites are www.polocrosse.com.au and www.polocrosse.org.au (sorry I don't know how to do hyperlinks). BTW, a bunch of Yanks were here for the World Cup in April... One from Greensboro, NC!
Best of everything Collin.
If you ever need anything you have many new friends to call or write.
::
GP
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