Monday, January 22, 2007
Coleman, Neff Panel
I'll post a reminder on this issue Thursday, but a Duke Law School webcast would be worth watching for those of you with computer access at 12.15. Jim Coleman and Joe Neff will be among the presenters on a panel entitled “Trying Cases in the Media: The Role of Prosecutor and the Press.”
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Doubtless this is redundant, but I cannot help but hearken back to the Sam Shepherd murder case and the retrial that was forced because of pretrial publicity! That's back when F. Lee Bailey was still a REAL lawyer. I was a tv/radio newsperson in those days and I remember covering the case and sitting after court in local restaurants with all the rest of the press corps - many of us believing that Dr. Sam did, indeed, do it - but knowing full well there was no evidence.
I am going to invent a webcast vcr/dvr. ;)
I need one for this event. Hopefully it will be archived on Duke's server or somewhere.
We don't judge newspapers based upon the color of their ink, rather the quality of their content...
Has a recent audit been conducted on the N.C. newspaper's circulation numbers? Given their liberties with how they present and omit facts wouldn't it be ironic if the H-S, et al also overstated numbers like the Dallas Morning News did a couple of years ago?
http://www.ajr.org/Article.asp?id=3836
The general trend nationally has been a radical drop, so one cannot blame this incident alone. On the other hand the news people are quick to blame the Internet, when it may be something as simple as the content and quality of the presentation.
I read this paragraph with great interest
"In June of 2003, a young white woman, working at a hotel in Colorado, accused NBA superstar Kobe Bryant, an African-American, of sexual assault. The national news media immediately pursued the woman's character, trying to learn from high school friends whether she was "loose." She had no police record but her moral character, unlike the accuser of the Duke lacrosse teammates, became a primary issue.
And while the Colorado accuser was blindly and widely condemned as a slut, she had credibility. Bryant and his legal team retreated to a settlement, even acknowledging that the accuser was justified in not sharing Bryant's claim that the sex they had was consensual.
What else, besides race, can explain the disparity in how two high profile cases of alleged sexual assault were reported? "
Its about time someone does an in depth comparison as to how the media handled both cases
3:50
sorry, meant to post this on the
Mushnick on the Case
3:50,
The trouble with comparing this to Bryant's case is that there was sex in his case and therefore it came down to his word versus hers and miscommunication, if there was any.
Here the guys denied right away there was any sex at all between any of them and the accuser. And the science verified their claims.
I would argue also that CGM's character has been attacked in this case (and justifiably so) just as much or more than Bryant's accuser's was.
this incredible story parallels a movie from long ago. bonfire of the vanities. lets call it "bonfire of the devinity"
parallels the book more than the movie version -- the book is superb, while the movie was not particularly well-done
coincidentally Tom Wolfe's daughter is a Duke alum
I fear the worst - the Thurs Panel at Duke Law will be overrun by agendanistas trying to infuse the prodeeding with their metanarratives.
The fact that the title of the program - 'Trying Cases in the Media: The Role of Prosecutor and the Press' doesn't include an obvious bias toward the defence will cause them to display umbrage of a thermo-nuclear level.
Governor Easley spoke at NYU Law School today and criticized the conduct of Mike Nifong in the Duke case and said it was a bad appointment and that he appointed Nifong in part as a replacement because he said he would not run again.
He said he did not know what the evidence would demonstrate in the case but as a former prosecutor he could say that Nifong's public comments about the accused were wrong.
He did mention the racist remarks made that night by some lacrosse players. I am not sure how that relates to the accused as none of them were accused of making these remarks but I believe he wanted to criticize Nifong but not go as far as to say that this was a miscarriage of justice. This could be for political reasons.
This is interesting as it is the first time that I am aware of, the governor openly criticizing Nifong's conduct.
Partisan Moderate:
"Governor Easley spoke at NYU Law School today and criticized the conduct of Mike Nifong in the Duke case and said it was a bad appointment and that he appointed Nifong in part as a replacement because he said he would not run again."
Really!? Can't wait to see the news reports on that...
Just watched OReilly. I had to search for a while to find it, I rarely watch TV. But DAM, the kid was great. That why I am an optimist. The Professers at DOOK might be barely literate malcontents but the students have been uniformly impressive.
This is still a great country if we can keep it out of the hands of the Nifongs and the gangs of 88s.
Thank you Bill O'Reilly !
"The Factor" just aired excerpts from their visit to Durham. LOL!!! SNL couldn't have done better.
They visited the abodes of two of the G88 after contacting them asking for a response to explain their inhuman and illogical behavior.
Those two Duke 88 "professors" looked and spoke as if they were knock-offs from a "Happy Days" film locale.
ROTFLM-T's-O !!!
What untidy Birkenstock losers! Pass the granola!
But wait. There's more. We got to see Mikey Nifong in his bathrobe outside Cy's house reprimanding the Fox crew and opining once again that he would only speak in court.
Fred Flintstone, where are you?
O'Reilly will be following the G88 and Brodhead on his show. A Duke senior who appeared on the segment will be brought back for updates on what the 88 are up to....or not, as the case may be.
With any luck, these academic dogs will be forced into hiding for the damage they have done to young students.
Debrah
Go Debbie Lee!!
Good to see you.
-Yachtsman-
-#11-
8:26---Thanks, I guess.
I have never been called "Debbie". Not even by my mother. I don't do nicknames.
And I'll have to quizz Yeshiva to find what the hell "Lee" has to do with anything.
I suppose another troll is on the premises.
Debrah
Excellent segment on O'Reilly with Steve Miller of the Duke Chronicle. Apparently the students are quite unified on the issue of the 88 and they're fed up with them.
Nifong in his bathrobe was not a pretty sight. Never expected to see that in my life. Priceless, really.
Made the cover of the Weekly Standard:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/013/190uejex.asp
Foxnews/O'reilly just showed a hilarious piece from this am's shots of Nifong and some odious Duke profs under assault from an O'reilly producer.
You must see the video.
What idiot DA wears his PJ's to get the paper with a video guy in front of his house.
Idiot to the core, he is.
FYI.....for all those who are on the East Coast, you can see a repeat of "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox at 11:00PM tonight.
Trust me. Mikey in his bathrobe is worth the price of admission.
Debrah
And while you're waiting for the webcast, this should provide some amusement.
-Tony
To be honest, CGM has not received the same hard scrutiny as Kobe Bryant's accuser. However, as Duke2009Parent has noted, there actually was sexual activity in the Bryant case, while there was none here.
People try to say that the Duke case is a "he said/she said" situation, but it is not. We have an accusation, but one that does not have any proof. None. But CGM has been protected in a way that Kobe's accuser was not.
People try to say that the Duke case is a "he said/she said" situation, but it is not. We have an accusation, but one that does not have any proof. None. But CGM has been protected in a way that Kobe's accuser was not.
Man, you are so dumb!
That's because she is a hardworking stipper and prostitute of color.
Such people deserve more sympathy that white girls who just want to make money by screwing hardworking basketballers of color.
Thanks Debrah!
I won't miss it.
Observer
Bill Anderson---
As always......a laser beam analysis.
Debrah
Observer---
:>)
I'd tell you to sit back and enjoy with a stiff drink; however, being a TV show, it won't last that long.
But long enough.
And just think. O'Reilly will be following up with regular coverage of same.
Good news, indeed.
Debrah
To use a term from the G88, I think some "deconstruction" of Easley's comments are in order. First, he makes a bigger deal out of the alleged "racial slurs," but that is to be expected.
However, he is saying this about Nifong: "You made me look bad, and you have caused trouble for me." That is something that one simply does not do as a political appointee.
More important, the governor is saying basically that he is withdrawing political support from Nifong. The man has lost some important cover here, and the governor just might want to make him pay. Stay tuned.
Debrah,
You're quite the celebrity. Are you the same person who writes those wonderful letters to the editor at local papers?
Danny Durham
Debbie:
I am going to ignore you.
Poland Spring
Steven Miller was great. He was much more articulate than Brodhead.
O'Reilly gets huge ratings. The Group of 88 are creating massive problems for Duke. The Board of Trustees has to be irate that they won't shut up.
I saw the O"reilly show. What do you mean they won't shut up. The Duke 88 all refuse to go on the show or comment.
lol
P.S.
Nifong in PJ robe priceless.
This prostitute deserves sympathy? Please. She's burned every bridge she has. There is nothing for her to do but admit that she lied and apologize.
vivian,
I agree the Dec 15 statement shows she is out to railroad the players. Nifong also tried to give her a way out in Jan before he recuse himself.
She manage to nail Nifong himself.
His put was, the "victim" did not want to go on.
so be "his out"
Wow, 10:04 (2:04 ET) and no new fix?
oooops.. 12:04 and no new fix...
He has me trained well...
Dear Pavlovianites:
Let's give KC some slack.
What ??? No 12:01 AM post? Argh! Where's my methadone, Mamou?
Cochise's Enchilada
11:12 here, where's KC's next opus!? ;>)
May be he is spell checking
Rumor has it that the Fong sent Linwood Wilson north and he's Shanghai'd KC.
Its amazing what a ritual this has become...watching the clock till 12:00 for the next post.
KC needs a well deserved day off.
KC wrote three (3) entries today, so may he is wrapping up the fourth.
I was only kidding... KC has all the slack (and respect) he can use from me.
I'm lucky --- I only have to wait untill 10:01 (usually).
California, Hawaii and Alaska have it even easier...
No matter when it comes, it is always a jo to read!!
What if Charles Dickens was writing in the age of the internet?
Dickens lite
Conchise's Enchilada---
Are you as stupid as you appear?
Maybe K. C. has been cornered by Windy Murphy, Nancy No Grace, Karla F.C. Hadherway, Wiejska Kielbasa Lubiano, and Kim (the grader) Curtis, and they are having their way with him.
Karla FC Holloway. How many initials does this moron need?
Can't help it. Everytime I see her name I think of the Colonel.
KFC
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