Monday, June 18, 2007

Nifong Is Out

The N&O reports that Judge Orlando Hudson, chief resident Superior Court judge in Durham County, has reversed his earlier position and will suspend Mike Nifong from office tomorrow. Hudson also announced that he will appoint a special prosecutor to consider a criminal case against Nifong, although his authority for doing so is unclear.

111 comments:

Anonymous said...

Ding Dong! The Witch is dead. Which old Witch? The Wicked Witch!
Ding Dong! The Wicked Witch is dead.
Wake up - sleepy head, rub your eyes, get out of bed.
Wake up, the Wicked Witch is dead. She's gone where the goblins go,
Below - below - below. Yo-ho, let's open up and sing and ring the bells out.
Ding Dong' the merry-oh, sing it high, sing it low.
Let them know
The Wicked Witch is dead!

gs said...

Sure, after the Governor saids it is ridiculous. Suddenly Hudson gets off his ass.

But Mikey gets to have a SP appointed to investigate him. Who knows what they will find.

Why to go Mikey.

Anonymous said...

Incredibly, this *spectacle* only worsens in Durham. What a freakin' circus. Enter Durham at your own risk, folks.

Anonymous said...

How much evidence has he destroyed already?

Anonymous said...

Mikey, the gift that keeps giving.

Anonymous said...

... justice sometimes comes slowly. Ironically, the person he hoped to beat by exploiting this case (Freda Black) might wind up his successor, perhaps even play a role in determining his just desserts.

Anonymous said...

lol at Wicked Witch comment -- I had the exact same thought when I just read KC's post.

Anyone want to venture a guess that Judge Hudson had some "help" reversing course?

Anonymous said...

JLS says....,

If Judge Hudson is to form Nifong is suspended with pay and the special prosecutor will be Wendy Murphy.

Anonymous said...

I bet that have to replace the DA office shredder, because of overuse.

jamil hussein said...

I would not believe this yet.
Hopefully a state trooper is there just in case Nifong shows up for work.

Anonymous said...

Weather forecast for Durham:

6-12 inches of snow has already fallen. More is expected....

No, it's Mikey at the shreader!

Anonymous said...

Mr. Hussein,

Sadly, Nifong has had days to destroy evidence, and there is no sign that anyone, including the State Police, are doing anything to stop him. Nice wish, but it's not happening.

Anonymous said...

Is anyone else starting to feel sorry for MN? I know he deserves everything that has happened and more. But I still can't help but to have some sympathy when you see someone screw up as bad as MN did. The guy has a wife and kids that we should think about.

On the other hand, after watching RS testify at the bar hearing and thinking about what he has put these families through, I want to roast the guy on a spit.

I can't make up my mind what I want to see happen. I think that if I was in the shoes of one of the indicted players (and I recovered all the money spent in defense of the litigation in settlements with Duke, Durham and the DPD) I think I would give MN a pass on the civil suit. There's no money there and he's to pathetic to waste time on.

gs said...

Nifong is dragging this out himself. He just could not summon up the character to quit today. And now has the 1st, of many, SP appointed to investigate him.

He needs to see a therapist.

Anonymous said...

I feel as sorry for Liefong as he felt sorry for the Duke boys. I'M NOT SORRY FOR HIM AT ALL.

Georgia Girl said...

The other day I commented that the "families" would not pursue criminal charges, blah blah ...

I felt that the "families" had made their point, and they would not go for the jugular.

Somebody responded to me, in so many words, that I was just plain stupid.

THAT PERSON IS SO RIGHT~!

(note to me: shut up and listen)

Anonymous said...

It isn't obvious that there is "no money" to be had from Mike, or Crystal for that matter. Maybe not now, but surely someone will try to make a movie out of all of this fairly soon, and who knows what they'll get paid for their participation.

Anonymous said...

JLS says...

anon 9:15

Nifong and Mangum both must be sued to stop them from writing books or selling their story to the press or otherwise profitting from this. Mangum will just default anyway so that will not be costly for them.

I am not feeling sorry for Nifong either. As I have said elsewhere a short stretch in jail would be a warning to other prosecutors to behave. I see no reason for NC taxpayers to pay to house him a long time as he can not reoffend since he is no longer a lawyer and soon no longer a DA.

Mangum on the other hand his a huge danger to society and if she can not be shown to have "mens rea"
she should be locked up as mentally ill for a long long long time. This is possibly the third time she has done this.

Anonymous said...

What a difference (a half) a day makes:

"Superior Court Judge Orlando Hudson in Durham has a petition pending before him asking that he remove Nifong from office. Hudson said today that he does not plan to act on the petition. He said Nifong would be gone from office before he had all the necessary paperwork to remove him."--N&O @ 2:23 p.m.

"The county's top judge plans to suspend Durham District Attorney Mike Nifong from office Tuesday and appoint a special prosecutor to push ahead with a case against Nifong, who is soon to be stripped of his license.

Superior Court Judge Orlando Hudson, chief resident superior court judge in Durham County, came to his decision late today after learning of Nifong's plans to remain in office until July 13. Nifong told a three-member panel of the State Bar's Disciplinary Hearing Commission that he would resign." N&O @ 8:34 p.m.

Michael said...

re: 9:15

Let's say that they recover the money for the defense. There's still a year of college life, type 1 diabetes, a heart attack for a grandparent, the terror of younger siblings, the feelings of terror and rejection in classes and still being spoken of derisively in certain blogs.

I hope that they recovered far more than their defense costs just from Duke.

Cy Gurney looks like a pretty sharp lady that will bounce back. I don't know about MN. He has a problem that he still doesn't see yet.

Anonymous said...

Nifong did this to himself. This was Nifong vs. Nifong so far. We haven't seen the Families vs. Nifong yet. They are the victims and have a right to go forward.

Anonymous said...

Hey, bring in Patrick Fitzgerald. He can get indictments even when the pertinent law isn't violated.

Anonymous said...

Gagrrl - well said. Couldn't have said it better myself. How's your wagon these days?

Anonymous said...

Now that the families are getting their money back (hopefully their settlements will cover all legal fees & travel costs), I only want to see that the public is protected from Nifong. If he had not made that statement in court, that "something must have happened in that bathroom", I would say, just let him go, disgraced and de-licensed. However, he persists with his potential to harm delusion; for this reason I suppose the 'good guys' should persist with civil and criminal charges against him.

How did he get himself in such a pickle? If he has a personality disorder now he certainly had it all along and the folks who considered him a good guy were themselves deluded about what it means to be good.

Georgia Girl said...

to 9:30 ... that's ok, i deserve it

Anonymous said...

Could it be that Smith will find Nifong in contempt shortly and Hudson wanted to avoid looking even more out of step?

Anonymous said...

Just in, the special prosecutor will hire Linwood Wilson to handle the investigation and discovery process. ;-)

Anonymous said...

Hey Mike,

I hope your lying, bi-polor prostitute was worth it.

You know, it didn't have to be this way. All you had to do was follow standard procedures. Interview your witness, conduct proper line-ups, turn over all the evidence, etc.

You brought this all on yourself.

Anonymous said...

Apparently the special prosecutor is to prosecute Beth Brewer's motion. But Nifong is out - as of tomorrow.

I don't know who got Hudson to reverse course but my hat is off to them. And to Beth!!

Michael said...

I was just listeing to Fallen by Sarah McLachlan
-- the chorus seems appropos:

I've fallen...
I have sunk so low
I have messed up
Better I should know
So don't come round here
And tell me I told you so...

Anonymous said...

Is it possible that he is in fact a Communist? If so, that would be the only thing to warrant so swift a removal without notice or due process.

Anonymous said...

Before anyone feels sorry for Nifong, remember:

1) Despite his word to the Governor, he runs for DA solely out of greed to retire with a higher pension.

2) He trails his old rival Freda Black by 17 points and knows that if she wins he not only loses his higher pension, but he is out of job altogether.

3) Mangum comes along with a black lynch mob powder keg behind it.

4) Nifong throws in the match and begins a carefully orchastrated and sinister series of cold-blooded actions: refusing the interview Mangum, ordering a rigged line-up, indicting without reading the transcripts, refusing to hear alibis or other evidence, purposely withholding other evidence - all designed to send 3 innocent men to a long prison sentence if it means furthing his career and retirement objectives.

5) Months drag by and, even in December, he still refuses to drop all the charges.

6) Consumed with power and arrogance, he is genuinely shocked and surprised when he is charged with ethics violations and VERY relunctantly turns the case over to the State AG.

7) He vows to fight, saying he's down nothing wrong. Hires a lawyer. He absolutely refuses to resign.

8) The State Bar Trial finally starts and he is as arrogant and cold-hearted as ever, "something happened", "oh maybe I got a bit out of hand".

9) Finally, as the case reaches his conclusion for the first time he wakes up, he snaps out of his trance and realizes the depths, the magnitude and the pure evil nature of his actions.

10) He then, for the first time does the right thing: acknowledges he should be disbared, offers not to appeal, etc.

Anonymous said...

But then he saids well I can still collect a few more pay checks until disbarment.

What a creep

Michael said...

re: 9:38

If you don't confess, he'll sing start singing.

Anonymous said...

9:51

Good to see you back. But your logic is faulty - if he was truly a communist, he would still be in power in this democrat controlled state. Now go google yourself.

Steven Horwitz said...

Yes, there is a ton of evidence that he is IN FACT A COMMUNIST. I heard that Linwood Wilson dug it up, so go talk to him instead of us.

christoph said...

9:52 If his problem is psychopathy, then he never can snap out of the trance and recognize the harm he's done. He only manipulates power for its own sake.

Anonymous said...

I don't understand the need for a shredder.

MN testified that he does not READ reports, therefore he likely doesn't write reports either.

What's there to shred?

Anonymous said...

Any bets on Linwood Wilson's remaining tenure at the DA's office?

miramar said...

My favorite comment in a truly extraorinary day comes from John Hood of the Raleigh-based John Locke Foundation. He is quoted in the H-S saying that "what this case makes North Carolina look like is a Louisiana political system with a Mississippi economy." Ouch!

Anonymous said...

Florida Gator said...
Oh, the schaddenfreude I am enjoying this with no shame whatsoever! I thought the city of Durham was going to protest poor Mr. Nifong's new found victimhood by not flushing their toilets until July 13, 2007. As for any criminal proceedings, why not let Nifong prosecute himself before his license is officially revoked and save the state some money. I think it's 30 days, but I am not sure. If he testifies like he did on direct before the DHC, he will recommend that he get the chair.

Jolene LaBeouf said...

Oh, HELL YEAH!

Anonymous said...

God Bless John Hood - he is a hoot to watch on Sunday mornings. He left out any Arkansas references, but probably only for the sake of brevity and pithiness.

Anonymous said...

Just when you think Durham and NC can not look any more like a 3rd world country they manage to step up to the plate.

Anonymous said...

God Bless Schadenfreude! It is a great day for America, and a great day to revel in the miseries of the truly corrupt.

gak said...

I found it interesting when it came out that Freda Black would have canned him if she had won the election. I think the bigger pension thing was a smoke screen

jamil hussein said...

The title of this post should be changed. Nifong is not out. This is just one more attempt to remove him.

Let's have a post once Nifong is out. Who knows, it may even be tomorrow (or at least within 30 days)?

Anonymous said...

Nifong needs to walk into the building lobby - yell "I quit" and run like the blazes.

Anonymous said...

Now Mikey gets the additional shame of being 1st and maybe only DA to be suspended from office.

Well Done.

Anonymous said...

what do you wanna bet the governor, state bar, etc. were all on the phone to Orlando H. this afternoon telling him to make the "right decision" or kiss his political career goodbye?

Nifong's become such an embarrasment that no one in the legal establishment can dare to show him mercy now. Look for jailtime for him because of this, if nothing else.

J Bryan said...

Well Robert Zaytoun is apparently a John Edwards supporter. Hopefully he'll do a good honest job and not a cover-up

Anonymous said...

Ask for a comment Nifong said (quoting Woody Allen in Bananas),

I object, your honor! This trial is a travesty. It's a travesty of a mockery of a sham of a mockery of a travesty of two mockeries of a sham.

Anonymous said...

Yes, no one who supports John Edwards could be corrupt. Nor have written a blog with bad words. Or slandered anyone. No way! The democrat party is such a nice little non-corrupt party. We shall wait and see what a great job he does... wait for it...

Anonymous said...

>Is anyone else starting to feel sorry for MN?<

Had Nifong not frame three people for crimes they did not commit, he would have lost the election last November, and would not be the DA today. That he still gets to be the DA today and would not be suspended until tomorrow, means that he has already come out ahead - seven months of salary, full benefits, and pension ahead.

Anonymous said...

Do I feel sorry for Nifong? HA! He tried to put three innocent young men in prison for 30 years. There isn't too much that is more serious than that. And as Jim Cooney said, this outcome was by no means a sure thing.

Even as of the hearing, after total exoneration by the AG, Nifong attempted to smear these three young men again with his "something happened" comment. The damage he has done - and continues to attempt to do - is something I can't begin to grasp.

Anonymous said...

That the new Special Prosecutor is a John Edwards supporter may be nauseating, but it is not surprising. There are probably quite a few in the Raleigh-Durham area. Edwards used to practice law with Wade Smith, who represented one of the three defendants (I think Collin F.) Zaytoun and Edwards might even be personal acquaintances or friends.

Durham may be infested with kooks and liberals, but at least it's not Berkeley.

Anonymous said...

Can he collect unemployment , Cy is a high maintenance woman you know?

Anonymous said...

The last week has certainly moved a hell of a lot faster than the previous 14 months.

Not that anyone here might be privy to the details, but what are views on whether today's settlement with Duke might have precluded libel/slander suits against individual members of the faculty?

GS said...

Judge to suspend Nifong

Anonymous said...

10:33 -- right on with the "not Berkeley" comment. Remember that Cooper is a Democrat, too, who might have gubernatorial asperations. At the time of the proclomation of innocence, he was risking a lot. He seems prescient now.

Anonymous said...

Quote: Dick Morris about the Clintons tonight on H&C.

They have done nothing illegal, just that what they have done is corrupt!

I suppose the Fong thinks this way?

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for Nifong's family. I have worked with one of Mike's brothers for 8 years now, and had an awkward conversation with him back in November, considering I'm a Duke grad. The brother that I know doesn't even practice law, and yet, he's cursed with that last name. Considering it's an unusual name and is now being used as a verb meaning "railroading prosecutorial fiasco due to greedy self-preservation", well, that's only a few steps up from having a last name of "Hitler".

You also have to feel sorry for his son. His wife has an option to leave -- one I might add that she should exercise -- but his son was simply born into this, used as a pawn in the courtroom, and undoubtedly a pariah at school.

But, as for Mike Nifong himself, absolutely no pity. He's reaping what's sown, and considering how well he's fertilized his field, it's going to be a bountiful harvest.

Anonymous said...

Greta going to talk about new news about Mike Nifong on foxnews.

Michael said...

Please, this man was one of the biggest bullies
and arrogant jerks that I have ever observed:

he makes all those inflammatory false
accusations IN PUBLIC -- and then any
time the defense countered him, he would
cry "foul" and fly into a fit of rage.

EVEN during the trial he commented that
it was innaprorpiate for the defense to do
a press conference about the DNA Test Results
"they don't have a right to give out results"

They very well do -- you SOB -- you just
couldn't handle anything that made you look
bad -- I have no pity for this bully jerk

Anonymous said...

Did somebody get an irate ringy-dingy from the governor? Reversed his position, no kidding. Somebody wants to keep his robes...

Anonymous said...

Nifong does not deserve ANY sympathy at all. Are some of you starting to lose it?
Only by a fluke(Bannon)of luck did he get caught. Otherwise 3 totally innocent boys go to prison, for one of the worst crimes ever. Their families lives and reputations are ruined in the community. Not to mention financially ruined.
Nifong played the black community and white libs like fools, actually inciting racism.
He trashed the name of what was known around the country as a good college.
And nifong would just be moving up the political ladder, stepping on who ever he wanted.
Nifong is evil

GS said...

I wonder if mid July is a key year anniversary of employment for Mikes pension. Maybe 2nd week of July adds more money to his pension. Or Nifong is just a moran.

Anonymous said...

I feel sorry for his first family, the one he abandoned after his wife (first one) put him through law school.

GS said...

10:41:00 PM

The players should thank God and their families for the good lawyers. But even without the DNA, These lawyers were going to destroy her on the stand in Feb over the rigged IDSs

No way Mikey is better than the kids lawyers.

Anonymous said...

I used to work in Durham with a guy whose last name is Nifong. No relation, but even 15 years ago he would get irate phone calls from people who had a bone to pick with Mike the Spike. Bad name to have, for sure. He still could change it to Hitler.

Anonymous said...

rofl @ changing to Hitler for the better. Sad.

Anonymous said...

Hudson's SP sends Linwood to get a statement from Nifong. WTF! DIW for sure

Anonymous said...

Can the wingnuts please stop condemning people based 100% on political positions and 0% on any evidence? You're not all that better than the potbangers.

Anonymous said...

Woody on greta

Michael said...

re: 10:40 - Nifong name

Part of the social construct that keeps us on the straight and narrow is our responsibility for our name and family. The penalty for cheating is not only self-disgrace but the disgrace of your family and family name.

I did a geographical net analysis of Nifong last year and it is a pretty rare name.

If I were Cy, I'd have his last name changed. It shouldn't be a problem finding a judge to approve that.

Anonymous said...

When you are tempted to feel sorry for Nifong, remember Reade and his Dad huddled together on the floor, him calling the Father at his school to be with his Mom when he told her, and having the life sucked out of her body. Then remember who caused their pain.

Anonymous said...

Cy must be some desperate female. Still don't think Mikey is the biological dad of the son shown in court.

Anonymous said...

Cy is Gurney, not Nifong. She is flying below the radar, well, except when she is seen worldwide holding his hand leaving the courtroom after he was disbarred. Oops!

Anonymous said...

10:55 - are you saying that Crystal's latest offspring was on tv? Dang, I missed that...

Anonymous said...

Maybe Cy can get some conjugal visits in jail in a few months.

Ew.

Anonymous said...

>Can he collect unemployment , Cy is a high maintenance woman you know?<

I can be wrong. But, I think that an employee who quit can not collect unemployment; but an employee who was fired, can. However, to stay collecting unemployment, he needs to show that he is looking for a job in earnest, and that he can document that he is being consistantly rejected by potential employers.

Richard Aubrey said...

Slightly OT.
The laxers who were not indicted faced difficulties from other Duke students and faculty.
Is there anybody in the area who will be watching to see how it goes next year?

GS said...

Dick Ellis, a spokesman for the state Administrative Office of the Courts, said Nifong will still be eligible for his full retirement benefits — a pension and health care — that he accrued while working a state employee for nearly 30 years.

But because he served fewer than five years as district attorney, he is not vested in a more lucrative retirement system for judges, prosecutors and the director of the courts office.

Anonymous said...

You don't get unemployment if you're fired with cause, or if you quit. If you are laid-off, you do get unemployment. This is definitely NC law, as I work in NC and have had co-workers (as has my wife) who have been denied unemployment because they were fired with cause.

If this isn't "cause", what is? I think Easley will make a call to the Unemployment Commission to double check this one. ;-)

GS said...

He will retire without the larger pension he sold his soul for quite a Faust story.

Gary Packwood said...

Nifong is out and Nifonged is in!

Enough with the emphasis on headlines for Mike. We know about him, already.

More emphasis on those who are re-visioning American history within universities and turning on their own students like a pack of crazed dogs.

Any effort to move attention off the Duke Board of Trustees and the process of electing new trustees is just another diversion.
::
GP

Anonymous said...

10:41 Wrote: "He trashed the name of what was known around the country as a good college."

I think Duke did that to themselves. Nifong might have scratched them, but they gut shot themselves and finished it off.

Rich

Soobs said...

Oh, how the "Mikey" have fallen.

Anonymous said...

Soobs,

LOL!

Anonymous said...

Has Nifong exhibited signs of suicidal tendencies in the past?

Anonymous said...

11:24

Only career suicide.

Anonymous said...

First to KC, you ARE the heat. If your classes are anything like your blogs, sign me up.
Second, Duke 1965 begs us to leave Duke alone. He basically says that by paying off, we should adopt a hands-off policy. We will leave them alone as soon as the 90 get their pink slips (that's the clueless 88, plus Broadside, plus Dean Ding.
Third, kudos to Brad Bannon. Tenacity paid off and your stock has risen faster than gas prices!
To Dave, Reade, and Collin and your families: Thanks for your intestinal fortitude and your crusade to fight for your innocence. I admire you all for not going after the ho (and this term is not used lightly).She tried to destroy your lives (or at least collect a settlement similar to what Duke paid) and, like Biblical heroes, you turned the other cheek.
Lastly, to Nifong's family. He tried to protect his son. I do have sympathy for him. To Cy, surely you could see that his mouth was clearly overloading his ass in those interviews. Did you not care or were you eyeing the prize as much as your hubby?

Anonymous said...

somone must have watered that old potted plant !

Anonymous said...

My guess is that Cy agrees with the metanarative being spouted by the gang of 88. She wanted the facts to be true just as much as her husband did. She is cut from the same cloth as others on that side of this farce.

Anonymous said...

Please allow me, an English teacher, to clarify a few terms:

Pity is not the same as sympathy or empathy. I feel pity for Nifong because his own flawed nature, greed and ambition, led him down a path of self-destruction.

I feel sympathy for the LAX players and empathy for their parents.

Some may truly feel schadenfreude, but I doubt it. Schadenfredue is "taking pleasure the in the misfortunes of others." Those who were whooping it up when the LAX players were indicted even when there were serious questions were guilty of schadenfredue.

The joy most of us feel at this point is vindication that true justice is being meted out at last, and that's noble.

As for the judge, I think he thought Nifong would be out this week. He was blindsided by the July 13 thing, too, I'd bet.

gotc

Anonymous said...

The Fongster has gotten just a bit of what he deserved. Hopefully more will come. At this point, Fongster deserves zero mercy. None. Nada. Kindness to the cruel is cruelty to the kind.

Looking back on all of this, it is amazing that he thought he could get away with it. Likely what happened was that he never could figure out how to jump off the tiger. But really, everyone knew the wheels were off this case once Newsweek got involved. And then the attempt to keep the case going by dropping the rape charges . . . . was he kidding? Hard to believe.

What's great is that the Fongster has a lot more pain in front of him. He will have to deal with contempt proceedings. He will then have to deal with civil depositions, and guess what, Lane Williamson was easy compared to that. And on top of all of that there is the possibility of a federal investigation.

Ha ha ha ha ha.

Anonymous said...

Let's keep in mind just how much Nifong pounced on this situation and exploited it. He has a son and should have easily been able to think about the parents of these men.

He jumped in front of every camera saying he was sure a horrible racially motivated crime had been committed.

He had no reason to believe any of it and had never even spoken to the victim.

He never thought for a second about anyone but himself and was more than willing to sacrifice 3 innocent men's lives for a little money.

I cannot think of a more dishonest self serving despicable act having ever been committed. And to sit on the stand and say he still thinks something happened. How can this sick man think anyone would accept him staying in office for another second.

He needs to be out of office yesterday....and he needs to spend a long time behind bars.

One more thing....Crystal Mangum needs to have her children protected from her. If she actually believes the stories she told there is no telling what she is capable of and her innocent children need to be protected from her.

Anonymous said...

While everyone is basking in what Mr. Nifong did to himself, let us not forget the underlying cause of this whole disaster: drunk (and probably high) college athletes, in collusion with their coach, had a stripper performing for them and expected to keep it "hush-hush" like most "damaging" and "immoral" and "uncivilized" behavior is among the two-faced hypocritical "conservative" crowd in this country. This is the type of exploitation of the "poor and willing" (by all involved-including the young lady who was taking her clothes off or whatever she was doing) that further perpetuates a sense of invincibility and a "have fun at any cost" mentality that exists among college students across this country.

Regardless Mr. Nifong's fate, the coach in this case should have been dismissed and should not have a cause for legal action. Regardless of whether he was on campus or off campus, he is an authority figure over these students and should not have even been involved...yet he chose to "correspond with" and give "underhanded" advice to the students before and after the incident. In my opinion, he should start applying at McDonald's because he shouldn't get into any legitimate university in this country. He should have thought about that before he even left home to go to the party. Whatever "lifestyle" he was used to will be no more...and it's his fault.

In terms of the lacrosse players, they are not entirely "innocent victims" here. Let's run through the list:

1. They solicited a stripper to "entertain" them...or whatever they paid for.

2. The Lacrosse team, and I'm sure it's not limited to that sport, had a "history of problems stemming from alcohol." They are alcoholics in the making.

3. One of the players referred to the strippers as "B*ITCHES" and wanted to "skin" them.

4. After all of this came out in the open, everyone "suddendly" realized that this was wrong and stupid. These were honor students; they were not the typical stupid jocks you find on "Animal House" and the like. My instincts and knowledge of similar incidents while in college, tell me that this wasn't the first "party" the team had under their belt.

Anonymous said...

12:23

Either that was a joke, or you are a joke.

Anonymous said...

12:35

Exactly. Who is that? Nifong? Peterson?

DL '00

Anonymous said...

maybe it's Wilson or the nurse? or Jesse Jackson, or Tawana B -I hear she's now on the speaker's circuit.

Anyway, got a good laugh.

Anonymous said...

Not informed. If coach P is at Micky Ds, it's because he owns it. I guess you did not hear he got a multimillion $ award from Duke.

You have to keep up

Bella said...

And this officially continues to be a three-ring circus. Durham isn't just a wonderland...these people are on a completely different plant. At least Hudson finally did the right thing.

Anonymous said...

Paula Zahn's demanding to know why they didn't announce Mangum's financial settlement too. All Nancy Grace can say is ...."Condit muuuurdered that guuuuuurl".

Anonymous said...

Why do so many of the ridiculous posts determined to hold onto some criticism of the lacrosse players begin with the phrase, "let us not forget".

These truly are the lamentable words of the "potbangers", who thought that they had a "show trial" of the Duke students to look forward to, that would cover their unholy trio of race, class and gender.

Instead, they have been forced to witness the public humiliation of their champion, Mike Nifong.

I expect that most of these unreconstructed "potbangers" are members of the Duke faculty or administration. Don't you know that it must gall them to realize that, in large part because of their extreme actions, Duke University was forced to make large settlement payments to Coach Pressler and the Three Families.

Anonymous said...

Isn't it ironic that Crystal wanted so badly to get money from the white boys, and now all the white boys are getting huge sums of money because of Crystal -- while Crystal herself gets not one red cent?

We seldom get to see natural justice working out so nicely.

Anonymous said...

12:23

Fishtalk, is that you?!?

Anonymous said...

Crystal can be called a lot of things, but "young" and "lady" are not two of them.

Ralph Phelan said...

"He tried to protect his son."

Bull. He used his son as a courtroom prop to try to get sympathy for himself.

If he truly cared about his son the kid would have spent the last week in an undisclosed location with no TV.

mb said...

12:23: Hiring strippers is perfectly legal. Lying to the cops and the DA is perjury; so is violating probation. Withholding exculpatory evidence, lying to a judge, railroading 3 innocent men (even white ones) is immoral, unethical and illegal.

The 3 young men did nothing illegal. The drunk, drugged-out hooker who falsely-accused 3 innocent men committed at least 2 crimes and IMO tried to commit a third (extortion). Nifong committed massive ethics violations and likely committed crimes. The victims are the LAX 3 and the perps are CGM, Nifong, the potbangers, the G88, et al.

College kids drink beer and do dumb stuff - that's what college is for. You are either incredibly naive, in denial or/and incredibly dumb. Are you a member of the G88? You sure sound like one.

Anonymous said...

Nifong is freaking great.
Trying to squeeze out that last month on the job was pure nifong.
Does anyone doubt that his next move is to try and get his job back.
I see him going after someone for wrongful dismissal, even though he resigned.