Friday, June 15, 2007
Nifong and DNA
Order for April 5, transfer of DNA to Meehan, was not done by Nifong--was done by ADA David Saacks.
[This would be the blame-David-Saacks defense.]
He didn't order Saacks to limit his order--his greatest interest was in "mixtures," but says that his interest (for unexplained reasons) was only in mixtures on fingernails, not rape kit.
Can only recall two specific times that he went to Burlington to meet with Meehan. Had 4-21 meeting on calendar. Had no listing of 4-10 meeting on calendar.
Having heard testimony of Himan and Meehan, perhaps he was in fact present at 4-10 meeting.
[Yet Nifong had said in court, on several occasions, that he had attended the 4-10 meeting with Meehan.]
Meehan just gave him a primer at the 4-10 meeting, though did mention the unidentified male DNA.
After SBI tests, knew this wasn't an "ejaculatory event," not looking for any such evidence from Meehan.
Had fully expected that Meehan was going to re-examine all the evidence, and also serve as a test for the SBI.
Nifong is currently claiming that the unidentified male DNA evidence wasn't from complete profiles, so didn't pay much attention to its relevance to the case. But the fingernails profile wasn't complete, either.
Nifong says that he assumed the unidentified male DNA had nothing to do with the case. Looked at it as a preliminary result that had nothing to do with the purpose of the test. But certainly evidence that defense attorneys were entitled to have.
[This statement would seem to amount to a guilty plea.]
Nifong has just admitted that the "court proceeding" he desired the May 12 report for was not the Evans indictment but to comply with the NTO order. Yet the NTO order report explicitly required the results of all tests.
Nifong is now blaming Meehan--saying that he asked for a report based on the SBI report, but right now, just looking for report that would put people entitled to receive it on notice about the results. That's the only conversation he recalls with him about the report.
Had never before been asked by a lab about what a report should contain--"I really didn't know what to say, didn't know what the answer should be" to Meehan's questions.
[This is an astonishingly weak performance.]
Nifong says that he guessed it would be Dave Evans as soon as he hears there are fingernail matches. Takes issue with Meehan's claim that meetings were long. Went over May 12 report in a "perfunctory fashion."
"Didn't take any steps" to make sure that non-lacrosse player DNA was in report--"really just didn't notice that it wasn't there."
The "whole point of my sending that information over there" was to get DNA fingernail information.
From May 12, 2006 through Dec. 13, 2006, never reviewed Meehan report.
[This would be the blame-David-Saacks defense.]
He didn't order Saacks to limit his order--his greatest interest was in "mixtures," but says that his interest (for unexplained reasons) was only in mixtures on fingernails, not rape kit.
Can only recall two specific times that he went to Burlington to meet with Meehan. Had 4-21 meeting on calendar. Had no listing of 4-10 meeting on calendar.
Having heard testimony of Himan and Meehan, perhaps he was in fact present at 4-10 meeting.
[Yet Nifong had said in court, on several occasions, that he had attended the 4-10 meeting with Meehan.]
Meehan just gave him a primer at the 4-10 meeting, though did mention the unidentified male DNA.
After SBI tests, knew this wasn't an "ejaculatory event," not looking for any such evidence from Meehan.
Had fully expected that Meehan was going to re-examine all the evidence, and also serve as a test for the SBI.
Nifong is currently claiming that the unidentified male DNA evidence wasn't from complete profiles, so didn't pay much attention to its relevance to the case. But the fingernails profile wasn't complete, either.
Nifong says that he assumed the unidentified male DNA had nothing to do with the case. Looked at it as a preliminary result that had nothing to do with the purpose of the test. But certainly evidence that defense attorneys were entitled to have.
[This statement would seem to amount to a guilty plea.]
Nifong has just admitted that the "court proceeding" he desired the May 12 report for was not the Evans indictment but to comply with the NTO order. Yet the NTO order report explicitly required the results of all tests.
Nifong is now blaming Meehan--saying that he asked for a report based on the SBI report, but right now, just looking for report that would put people entitled to receive it on notice about the results. That's the only conversation he recalls with him about the report.
Had never before been asked by a lab about what a report should contain--"I really didn't know what to say, didn't know what the answer should be" to Meehan's questions.
[This is an astonishingly weak performance.]
Nifong says that he guessed it would be Dave Evans as soon as he hears there are fingernail matches. Takes issue with Meehan's claim that meetings were long. Went over May 12 report in a "perfunctory fashion."
"Didn't take any steps" to make sure that non-lacrosse player DNA was in report--"really just didn't notice that it wasn't there."
The "whole point of my sending that information over there" was to get DNA fingernail information.
From May 12, 2006 through Dec. 13, 2006, never reviewed Meehan report.
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Now Nifong begins the big, deep lies. He's freaking out of his mind to be testifying.
Can you spell P-E-R-J-U-R-Y?
"After SBI tests, knew this wasn't an "ejaculatory event," not looking for any such evidence from Meehan."
Huh?
What's an "ejaculatory event," legally speaking?
I may be experiencing one now...
Nifong strategy (hardly surprising)is "admit nothing, unless the evidence is in writing or seen on TV".
THE LIAR (I mean Ms. Magnum in this case), said someone ejaculated into her mouth and she spit it onto the floor.
BDay
Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
When is his criminal case going to be? He deserves jail time... and magnums needs charged as well.. to exclude her is ridiculous... she started this whole mess... and apparently it isn't her first attempt... she needs stopped BEFORE someone wrongly is convicted based on her lies...
Can anyone provide a link to bio/picture of Duff Wilson of NY Times?
How does Nifong remember this much detail about Meehan's discussions with him? Such a liar.
CJ
I'm not an attorney, but have been involved in a few legal events. Somehow I recall being told more tha once: you answer the question, and then shut up. Clearly, no one has told Nifong about that..... :-)
Duff:
http://www.ire.org/history/current.html
Scroll down to next-to-last picture.
he can remember in detail about Meehan discussions, but does not know how many times he traveled to Burlington
I hope the prosecution checks KC's blog before going into cross.
Williamson is going to kill him with direct questions.
http://www.reporter.org/desktop/rd/duffbio.htm
http://www.dukechronicle.com/home/index.cfm?event=displayArticle&ustory_id=41234a01-d8ce-47c4-84ac-8272c64e96e2
http://backissues.cjrarchives.org/year/01/3/wilson.asp
Duff Wilson
And remember that Nifong had some prior dealings with the Mangum family that he seems to have omitted so far...
He talks too much, just dug himself a little deeper...
BDay
His smacking lips indicates nervousness - dry mouth.
CJ
Ironic, she told liefong that they ejaculated, but the SBI found no seman, so he claims he wasn't looking for evidence of an "ejaculatory event" from Meehan. So if you DON'T believe her on one part, you should NOT believe her on the other!!!
12:04..
Well said !!!!
"I am so stupid you should feel sorry for me and not take away my license to practice law"
This is in summary, his defense.
He is getting a bad case of "cotton mouth" sure sign of lying
I think he is going to try to go for a "I did it all, but I am a good guy and didn't really mean any harm. Have mercy on me and slap me on the wrist and tell me not to do it again. OBTW - leave my pension intact."
Jeeez.....count the eye blinks!
I'm getting dizzy! Honestly, do you think Bannon et al are real-time with this blog? I don't see any laptops and messengers....
His defense appears to be" someone else is responsible..."
Can they take him out of there in cuffs? Can't they charge him right there with criminal charges?
KC writes, "[This is an astonishingly weak performance.]"
Nifong is an astonishingly weak individual.
Call me stupid, but how does other men's DNA have nothing to so with this case? A rape, DNA in orifices, but has nothing to so with this event? The bullet in her head has nothing to do with the alleged shooting?
Roy,
Do you need any more evidence that a crime has been commited now? Time to investigate or call for the USDOJ to do so, TODAY.
BDay
Nifong's representation of the likelihood of the casual transfer of DNA makes no sense. How come they found the DNA of another LAX player on another nail that was not seen as relevant to the case.
Says a lot about the voters of Durham that they re-elected this clown, doesn't it?
There is a live feed for this .. where????
12:03
Forget the prior dealings with mangum - what about the "weekly" phone calls from his office to mangum.
go to wral.com
Hopefully Ms Jean will ask him about the SBI report - He looks like he is trying Dave Evans and the guys in his responses.
Bernie,
Last time I checked sperm did not casually transfer to one's vagina or anus and skin cells of 5 men did not casually transfer to one's panties.
re-elected -- well per Nifong, Durhan is a "progressive community."
Half a truth is often a great lie.
-Benjamin Franklin
And this is the thanks Brian Meehan gets for trying to save Nifong and giving him wiggle room.
Ah the irony.
Poor Nifong, victimized at every turn.
He's giving Meehan a run for his money in the "erratic witness at best" category.
His testimony gets more and more unbelievable as he goes on, and this is on direct.
The panel has already hinted they feel Meehan was not credible, that there was likely an agremeent between Nifong and Meehan to withhold (or restrict) reporting.
Given that, the cross will be brutal, they will show his lies over and over....
BDay
WHAT!! He was in a hurry to get the items to the attys. YET six months later they get the material!! That was ONE long family vacation!!
Nifong said, regarding the "boyfriend" that "it turned out to be the case" that some of the DNA came from him. Has that been established before? Does that suggest that they tried to identify the other contributors to the mixture?
12:12 Anonymous
Point was that it is easy for a casual transfer of DNA from DE to the nail in a trash can in DE's bathroom. Nifong is arguing that the DE's DNA was of significance.
Nifong just comes across as not being very bright. He acts as though he understands all this DNA stuff and the rest of us don't. In my experiences in life, people who are insecure tend to pick on those who aren't in order to make themselves seem magnanimous. That's what we're witnessing here. He's trying to impress us w/ how much he knows and how little everyone else does.
So, Nifong's defense is simply that he was too inexperienced in such matters and he was not attentive enough to the court's orders!
So, why is he still the Durham DA or even a practicing attorney in the DA's office?
for livefeed Google wral-tv
Enough for me...he should lose his license just on gross imcompetence alone...he admist to this incompetence!!
Here is the link to the feed:
http://www.wral.com/news/video/1502885
This hopefully strengthens the resolve of the families to make his life misearble "for the rest of his life"
He sits up there trying to justify f***ing 3 men.
Wonder what Witt thinks this line of questioning will gain him?
This is classic narcissitic behaviour. The additional profile of this man is amoral, unethical and intellectually bankrupt.
I can't imagine even in North Carolina, that this panel will not punish him. But nothing will surprise me, I can't shake the feeling he has an insiders advantage and some crazy rebuke will be the end of all of this.
Reade, Dave and Collin and your families leave as fast as possible when this commences!
From what I can tell Nifong is almost giving Phase 2 testimony. He is conceding most of the charges against him i.e. (guilty) but with an explanation that I suppose is designed to minimize the penalty.
Don’t think it will work but it probably is his best hand to play right now. Probably should have done this when the bar complaint was first filed as opposed to fighting it.
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